Did you notice the cute comment on the MythBusters page, "The episode proves that landing on the Moon can be reproduced in studio  Knock, knock – wake up!" No, the episode does not prove that. Proof that the Moon Landing was not faked is not proof that the Moon Landing could have been faked. Once again you reply to me as if I said it. That was a quote. That's why there are quotation marks around it and a link for a reference. What I said, was it was a "cute comment". Do you have anything to say about the cuteness of the comment? The point is, that when you have MythBusters using a studio that was far smaller than the one used for faking the moon landings, it doesn't really prove anything. Again, when checking out the info at http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm and many other websites, it is becoming very evident that, even if mankind went to the moon, the evidence of it that is out in the public is fake. |
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Rather, eliminate governments so that it doesn't happen again. By the way, every big business is a government. Exterminate the Fukushima crooks? Perhaps. But don't worry. They'll dies of old age soon enough. Then they will roast in Hell, right along with most of the Buddhist and Shinto believers. |
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How is this related to Dracula and vampires?
Because we all know that all transilvanian things are related to Dracula and vampires somehow
Well, this has nothing to do with Dracula or vampires. This has to do with some ancient objects being found and from which we can learn some more about the past! I get it. Like the Bosnia Pyramids, at least one of which is much larger than the Great Pyramid. A pyramid in Europe bigger than the Great Pyramid  I that's mostly unknown to common people Google "Bosnia pyramids." |
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What's the point of discussing that when there is a person on this planet that is the vicar of Jesus Christ.
That person is the Pope.
Jesus never set up a church nor a "Vicar", and certainly not a bank; however, Papal Supremacy is evident in the political realm, that is why The Vatican is not a party to The Hague Apostille Convention; it is basically The Vatican's Law called "Private International Law". The Church of Rome has been responsible for a lot of the EVIL in the world today; please give this letter some thought: http://scannedretina.com/2014/07/19/anna-addresses-cardinal-george/Jesus said "For behold the kingdom of God is within you." So, the kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom and therefore needs only a spiritual head or king. I advise you to double-check the facts of the matter, for you are placing your faith in a false authority; God's kingdom is not in The Vatican, it is within YOU. If you want to discuss with me about the Pope, you will have to use reason; argument from authority will not convince anyone but the gullible. When you look at the history of Christianity over the last 1,500 years, you can see all kinds of Popes in various churches in various countries. I haven't looked lately, but there are probably various Roman-like churches in several places in the world (Greece, Russia) that have their own Pope, or at least a Bishop that has the full power of the Pope in their particular religion. Now we have the Phoenix Journals trying to compete with all the Popes. Get off it. Don't we have enough Popes already? We don't need more devils coming in the form of the Journals. We have enough in the Popes already. |
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Hi BADecker,
What exactly is so fictional about these writings, and how do you judge this to be so? If you mean fiction in the Journals... Who cares? It isn't the individual words that are fictional. After all, words have real meaning. It may not be some facts in the Journals that are fictional. All science fiction has a little (sometimes a lot) fact in it to make it realistic. And who knows if you are lying about the Journals or not, when you say that they express that you can get to Heaven by works. Nobody needs the Journals for that, even if the Journals truly say that, because people can have the Bible that has been around for a long time for that. Why is it that you would need to assert that God used the hand of many different men to add content to the Gospels because "they were incomplete the first time around"? This question is not answerable because it seems to be based on an assumption that suggests that I have such a need. And why all of the fictional stories in the Bible--like the one where the child Isaac is terrorized and threatened with death so that God can "teach his father a lesson"? Nobody knows that any stories in the Bible are fictional. Traditionally, the Hebrew people say that they are real. This tradition has been handed down, parents to children, from the times that they happened, through the ages. The fictional stories are the ones that tried to get into the Bible, but that you won't find within it, because the test of any so-called prophet that tried to push such a story into the Bible, showed that he wasn't a prophet, and so the story was left out. I can understand how you would find terror in the story of Abraham that you mentioned. Anybody believing in the Journals should be terrified when he sees God in action. Then, you allege that Jesus is my savior even though he never suggested that; The fact that you are alive, shows that Jesus is your Savior for this life. He is the only reason that the earth, and probably the universe, remained, in the face of the sin of mankind back near the Beginning. Will Jesus be your Savior for eternity? That's a question, the answer to which, remains to be seen. your "Doctrine of Paul" states something to the effect, "You need do NOTHING to receive God's Blessings and Grace". This sounds a bit like the "just BE" philosophy of many New Agers, does it not? I was not aware that I had a "Doctrine of Paul." What evidence do you have that I have such a doctrine? If you are talking about salvation by Jesus, you are mistaken in your understanding. The fact is, you can do nothing to gain salvation. Nobody has the strength that it takes to do something that will gain him/her salvation. If people had such strength, the ones that did would prove it by living, say, 500 years or more in this life. That still wouldn't prove it, but it would be a start. Furthermore, do you not propose that we all join a church and therefore a cult? That I am aware of, I have not proposed this, nor am I proposing it now. Why do you keep trying to twist things? The fact that you continually attempt to twist things, shows exactly what is to be expected for someone steeped in the Journals... constant twisting, simply because their base is false. I think we should first define the terms so we have explicit understanding of meaning.
1. Cults: A system of religious rites and observances; zealous devotion to a person, ideal, or thing.
I assume that even though the author claims to even be a “Christian Pastor” of a Church called Calvary Chapel, that he does not consider that they, or himself, is a member of a cult? How can you be a member of a church (body of--) without falling into this category by pure definition?
I am guilty--one hundred percent totally guilty. I come in total service to God of Light, the Christ Truth, the Creation of Godness and the Laws of God and The Creation as given forth for Mankind. The Christ energy, having acquired his Godness, comes again with the Hosts of which I am in Command--I don’t believe you can get much closer than that, my friends. So, Hatonn serves God of Light, the Christ Truth. Anyone who doesn't profess to salvation by Jesus as is taught in the Bible, and especially if he speaks against it, any truth he has is incidental, and he is promoting damnation for all who follow him. Who do YOU serve, BADecker? Does it matter Who I serve? You serve the devil or a host of devils. Why would you assert that your book is truth and mine is not when you don't even have any facts to support that claim? If you are talking about the Bible here, I only have a couple of copies. The history of the people of Israel, and how the Bible was put together over the hundreds of years that it took, and how God has kept the teaching alive, and how the Holy Spirit works through the words of the Bible, show that the Bible can't exist. It is impossible for a book like the Bible to exist by the odds. Because of this, there is strength in it. Why do you reject outright the possibility that God may have sent messengers JUST AS PROMISED? I have noted that the true WORD OF GOD--AND GOD IS THE WORD, is totally understandable without interpretation--the commandments (laws) are explicit in every detail from “...not kill” to “...no adultery”. It certainly requires no self-styled “preacher” to foist off his opinions on an unsuspecting and unthinking public because he deceives them into thinking he is somehow better or more informed than they.
God most certainly has sent messengers just as He promised. All you need do to see what they have to say is read the Bible. The commands to follow the moral laws are not the point. Many religions have moral commands in whatever law they express. Let me state again. It isn't the laws, or the learning of the laws, or the keeping of the laws that counts. Rather, it is the keeping of the laws PERFECTLY that counts. How can we tell when someone has kept the laws perfectly? We can tell when we see a person who does not die. How can we tell when a person has the strength of God? We can tell this if, when he dies, he then comes back to life in such a way that He cannot die again, forever. There is only One Person Who has done this. It is Jesus Christ of the Bible. |
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Most of that post is just making up stories about why that evidence might be wrong without really investigating the evidence or by backing up stories with facts. Even if all that you said is correct, I think you have not done an adequate job at refuting any of the points on the near-death site, nor have you given cause to consider the possibility of hypergraphia in the case of the Phoenix Journals. You base your beliefs upon assumptions which are unstated, then give inadequate stories as explanations without considering all of the circumstantial evidence and the possibility of new paradigms.
I am not countering with 'evidence' I am countering with an explanation for why what you consider to be 'evidence' does not qualify as such. Big difference. If you do not want to counter each and every piece of evidence that I have provided you with then you have not provided reason to reject every single point of evidence that I propose. Therefore, I have evidence to support my view and you do not, you are merely proposing stories without proposing a reason to discredit the evidence. For example, you did not point out what is wrong with the Mereon Matrix, you merely suggested that it could be wrong... no science can stand up to that kind of criticism, that is like saying "it could be wrong for reasons we don't yet know about". Let me give you an example: I did not read it; I would rather you bother yourself with giving reason to dismiss each point of evidence that I referenced; after you get through these 52, we can move on to other evidence that I am familiar with. Trouble is, you have no basis for asserting such a thing when there is long recorded history of recognising and understanding the medical condition, 'hypergraphia' in humans, many of whom claim to be writing some sort of 'secret knowledge' and there is absolutely no recorded history of it being found, instead, to be a case of a human being channelling information from time-travelling space beings.
What would qualify as "recorded history"? Who said that the Journals were channeled? I believe that I stated that they were not... Who said that the messengers Hatonn, Sananda, and others are time-travelers; where are you getting this?? Another example would be the wild claims made by Mellen-Thomas Benedict,
The only 'evidence' you have for his claims are his claims, which is known as the fallacy of 'circular reasoning'. Therefore it is not acceptable as evidence. Fair enough; I still contend that people having NDE have brought back valid scientific knowledge, as explained in that link. Every single 'scientific' point that NDE website cites as 'proof' is grossly flawed. Oh? Do enlighten us! We've been here before and unless you are willing to strike out each one I objectively debunk, I am not going to waste my time doing so only for you to go back and cite them again because you're incapable of rational thought and unwilling to recognise that you are probably caught up in the 'sunk cost' fallacy, which is the fact you have expended so much time and energy in making this a core element of your identity and belief that you would rather maintain intellectual dishonesty in the face of critical analysis than accept the actual truth.
Believe you me, I am rational and willing to provisionally accept that Mellen-Thomas Benedict is a liar. Now, that still does not refute the point that people having NDE have brought back valid scientific knowledge, nor have you "wasted your time" in evaluating all points of evidence on that page. Not even close. Whatever cryptodevil is saying here doesn't really matter... except for one point. That point boils down to this: The only evidence you have for any of the blabber you say being fact, is that you call it evidence or fact. There is nothing else. In other words, the Phoenix Journals may literally be written down, but the only evidence you have for them being fact is, you say they are fact. Why should anyone believe you? You want us to get in there and read them so that we can see that they are fact? Silly boy. Doc Savage is far more entertaining. At least if anything you have had to say so far is a real example of what is found in the Journals. |
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How is this related to Dracula and vampires?
Because we all know that all transilvanian things are related to Dracula and vampires somehow
Well, this has nothing to do with Dracula or vampires. This has to do with some ancient objects being found and from which we can learn some more about the past! I get it. Like the Bosnia Pyramids, at least one of which is much larger than the Great Pyramid. |
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Here I thought you were talking about Egyptian mooning, or something.  |
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
According to some, you should just Ask Youtube To Get Your Answer. No need to use your brain or open a book. MythBusters were asked to use their brains, and... myth busted. Not even plausible. True. Here's the link. Didn't take them very long, either. http://mythbustersresults.com/nasa-moon-landingFor someone who needs books for proof, MythBusters? http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htmDid you notice the cute comment on the MythBusters page, "The episode proves that landing on the Moon can be reproduced in studio Knock, knock – wake up!" LOL! Didn't think of that.Problem is that according to the evidence offered at http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm, MythBusters failed, because their set was way too small. |
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Oh boy! Stock it with sharks.  |
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
According to some, you should just Ask Youtube To Get Your Answer. No need to use your brain or open a book. MythBusters were asked to use their brains, and... myth busted. Not even plausible. True. Here's the link. Didn't take them very long, either. http://mythbustersresults.com/nasa-moon-landingFor someone who needs books for proof, MythBusters? http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htmEDIT: I forgot the part about "brains." No matter. |
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
According to some, you should just Ask Youtube To Get Your Answer. No need to use your brain or open a book. When you use your brain to get the truth, even if it is on Youtube, you may not need to open a book. |
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
Charlie Chaplin made some pretty good films back in the '20s. |
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.... I'm not backtracking. That was a quote where I was responding to someone. You just seemed to ignore that. They wrote, "Flowing Water On Mars indicates that LIFE CAN HAPPEN ON MARS. (Screw the religious people )" So I responded, that the statement is true, (that life can happen on mars) if you can believe NASA. If NASA says we went to the moon officially, and people from NASA say we can't get through the Van Allen Belts, I find it hard to believe anything NASA says officially. Tarry on though, this is funny. Edit: I think you think I named the links, I copied the youtubes name for the links. I wasn't saying the link's names as a statement.  In case it isn't clear, I am practicing here the "Are you still beating your wife?" logical fallacy. Which if even answered implies - 1. You have a wife. 2. You have a history of beating your wife. 3. You may today be beating your wife. Now, before thinking all that through too carefully....what is life like today in those secret far side Nazi Lunar bases? When vil de Battle de Earth commenz? And why are you wasting your time writing out fallacies? This whole thing has been a blast for me. Maybe not for you, but hopefully you learned you should actually read/watch what someone writes about before responding to it as if you know what's going on with assumptions. Oh, ignore Spendy. He's a government agent or a troll for government or both. The question always was the Van Allen Belts. Back in the '60s, NASA let slip that there was some kind of iodine isotope injection for astronauts that they could take to protect them from the radiation. Of course, when they let it slip out, they were simply playing us all so that we would think that they had gone through the Belts. Now that the technology is really here to do a real moon shot, and the only problem needing fixing is the Belts problem, NASA is trying to let the truth about the fake moon shots of the past come out slowly. Besides, they did such a shoddy job of making it look real back then, that the truth is surfacing anyway, without the NASA admittance. Spendy has some good ideas at times, but he is a total government stooge. So, expect that he will run you in circles when you start to get too far out of line regarding the thing that government wants us to believe. Lol. Well it wasn't the best way. The links I was discussing and all the back and forth, probably called a lot more attention to the videos, which in turn probably made more people check them out. I wasn't really suggesting to ignore him. And, you are right. All the extra publicity. This forum format is a good one. There should be some way to set up a forum like this for each good topic that we have in this one, rather than only Bitcoin. |
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.... I'm not backtracking. That was a quote where I was responding to someone. You just seemed to ignore that. They wrote, "Flowing Water On Mars indicates that LIFE CAN HAPPEN ON MARS. (Screw the religious people )" So I responded, that the statement is true, (that life can happen on mars) if you can believe NASA. If NASA says we went to the moon officially, and people from NASA say we can't get through the Van Allen Belts, I find it hard to believe anything NASA says officially. Tarry on though, this is funny. Edit: I think you think I named the links, I copied the youtubes name for the links. I wasn't saying the link's names as a statement. In case it isn't clear, I am practicing here the "Are you still beating your wife?" logical fallacy. Which if even answered implies - 1. You have a wife. 2. You have a history of beating your wife. 3. You may today be beating your wife. Now, before thinking all that through too carefully....what is life like today in those secret far side Nazi Lunar bases? When vil de Battle de Earth commenz? And why are you wasting your time writing out fallacies? This whole thing has been a blast for me. Maybe not for you, but hopefully you learned you should actually read/watch what someone writes about before responding to it as if you know what's going on with assumptions. Oh, ignore Spendy. He's a government agent or a troll for government or both. The question always was the Van Allen Belts. Back in the '60s, NASA let slip that there was some kind of iodine isotope injection for astronauts that they could take to protect them from the radiation. Of course, when they let it slip out, they were simply playing us all so that we would think that they had gone through the Belts. Now that the technology is really here to do a real moon shot, and the only problem needing fixing is the Belts problem, NASA is trying to let the truth about the fake moon shots of the past come out slowly. Besides, they did such a shoddy job of making it look real back then, that the truth is surfacing anyway, without the NASA admittance. Spendy has some good ideas at times, but he is a total government stooge. So, expect that he will run you in circles when you start to get too far out of line regarding the thing that government wants us to believe. |
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It's probably Satoshi. It wouldn't make a lot of sense honestly , I mean Ross admitted that he have relations with the Silk road however he said that he only created the website and nothing else , if he is saying the truth and we take your theory ... Satoshi is talented and created Bitcoin it self (means he have programming skills) so I don't see how a genius programmer would hire a programmer . That's what a Satoshi-like character would hope that you would see. And if government saw the same thing, Ross would make the perfect scapegoat. |
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I recently bought a drone at gearbest. This drone came eqquiped with 2mb pixel cam.
Today, I found out that my Border import control agency is helding it.
Why the hell would they do that if I'm in Europe and it came from the Netherlands??
Next time come over on a boat via Syria and you'll be able to keep your drone... No questions asked. Gotta buy the plans, then the parts piece by piece, then assemble it yourself. |
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Woohoo! Congrats everyone on getting this thread 20,000 views! You've all contributed to a world with less superstition and shitty mythos!
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Also more orgasms and less violence.
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Also death to capitalism!
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Smoke weed ever' day! Cops are not your friend.
The shitty myths are going strong. One of the shittiest of them is that there isn't any God. A second is that He doesn't have any control. A third is that, since God doesn't exist, He can't be patient and merciful, hoping that as many as possible will be saved. Smoke a little weed every day, but don't overdo it. Don't legalize weed. Rather, repeal all laws against it. And if anybody ODs on it, his friends and relatives need to pay the hospital that saves him. And if he harms or kills anyone because he is high, "eye for eye; tooth for tooth; hand for hand; life for life." |
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The flat-earthers would say that we haven't gone to Mars, or anywhere else "out there," and that NASA is all a lie to suck tax money out of the people. Even if the flat-earthers are wrong, GET RID OF TAXATION, because it is making slaves out of people. In this case, lots of people don't care one iota for stuff about MARS. They are too busy trying to find food for themselves and their family. GET RID OF TAXATION, because taxation is the reason that people are starving, while other people stupidly talk about water on Mars. Partly I agree with you, lots of stupid things which people don't need at all are sponsored by the Governmentget, but as everyone knows there are some useful things too, schools, hospitals, museums and scientific laboratories are among them. So maybe people should have more capability to controll where their taxes are going, but to get rid of taxation entirely is impossible in the modern world. We can't let the poeple control where the taxes go because hippies would like shut down the army, stupid people would like to shut down museums,... Other stupid people want to keep museums open. Want a museum? Join with all the rest of the people who want museums, together pay for your museums, and stop making slaves of the rest of us to keep the museums open through taxation. Get you permanent pass to your museum, and don't let non-pass-holders in. This goes for everything else, as well. From NASA to Greenpeace. From Obamacare to food lines for the poor. You wanna support it? Go ahead. But quit making me support the things I don't want through slavery taxes. |
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... and dying in the process. |
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