Can someone explain to me why they really think PayPie has good potential? I read the whitepaper before the pre-ICO and passed because it didn't make sense to me. But I still see people who are very excited about the project, so I want to understand what they really see in it now that it's trading at a big discount.
Sure, check who's onboard... if they can make the product work like promised this will be very good. But that's the big question...can they do it? It seems to be too ambitious of a goal. We have to optimis that they can do it. The PayPie team is carefully assembled with a comprehensive set of experts with decades of experience in the Fintech industry, so i think they can do it to make this project successfully I don't want to force optimism. I passed on the ICO for a reason, and it looks like it was the right move. Now I'm revisiting the token since the price is down, but I still need to believe this is something they can pull off before I buy any tokens. I'm not doubting the technical capabilities of the team, but I don't see businesses coming on board very easily. Unless someone can clearly explain what would drive adoption, I don't see how the business can succeed. |
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Can someone explain to me why they really think PayPie has good potential? I read the whitepaper before the pre-ICO and passed because it didn't make sense to me. But I still see people who are very excited about the project, so I want to understand what they really see in it now that it's trading at a big discount.
Sure, check who's onboard... if they can make the product work like promised this will be very good. But that's the big question...can they do it? It seems to be too ambitious of a goal. |
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Can someone explain to me why they really think PayPie has good potential? I read the whitepaper before the pre-ICO and passed because it didn't make sense to me. But I still see people who are very excited about the project, so I want to understand what they really see in it now that it's trading at a big discount.
Because risk score analysis is at the core of most major industries within the financial sector, such as financing, compliance, auditing, credit insurance, and review. So i think this project can implement to all industri sector. Paypie also has a good team in this project by joined Anthony di lorio can give this project positive value I get the tremendous value in more accurate risk scores, but I just don't see how they can pull it off. That's what kept me from investing in the ICO. How are they really going to penetrate the market by getting businesses to put their data on the blockchain? I can't see adoption getting to the point where they can get the scale they need. |
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Nice project. You can count on my participation at the ICO.
Bot much? |
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Can you purchase a house with coin in USA
No, not with REAL. With REAL you only invest in a given real estate, I doubt they'll let you go and live there. After reading this reply, I realize I may have misunderstood the question. When I said real estate had been purchased in the US, I meant using Bitcoin. I thought that's what you were asking. The REAL team will decide where to purchase real estate and it sounds like they will be starting overseas. |
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Don't get me wrong, I hold PPT and I like the original business idea and have read the WP and watched interviews on youtube, but...
Are you not at all worried that the website has been in 'off mode' for a long time and there hasn't been any news, no Telegram chat, etc?
What is going on there, anybody know and care to share some updates?
what do you mean by the website has been in 'off mode' for a long time? I've opened the populous.co website tody and login at http://alpha.populous.co/portfolio.php. seems the site is working properly. but its still on alpha phase. They just published it this morning. |
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Can you purchase a house with coin in USA
It's been done a few times in the US, but it's far from mainstream. |
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Reggie should have done the paper since the start instead of now to allay all the FUD.
"The centralized software platform is designed to cater to existing institutions that are not prepared to take the full leap into distributed capital markets systems."
What if the institutions are finally ready to be fully dedicated to distributed capital markets systems? Will that make Veritaseum less significant?
Suggestion:
Reggie should not focus too much on the needs of the institutions as the sole source of adoption.
Instead, as Reggie is competent in structuring customized deals, he should also take the opportunity to structure deals that are standardized/off-the-shelf to cater to the non-institution community at large, where everyone (you and me) can conveniently use for their financial/investment needs right away, to generate the 2nd source of adoption and grab additional market share.
In this way, Reggie doesn't need to wait for the institutions to be ready to take the plunge into cryptocurrencies for Veritaseum to take off. Veritaseum can take off asap if its platform is commercial-ready with a handful of standardized structured deals that the community can trade right away. Such standardized structured deals can be the "main block" of a deal/need, or smaller "building blocks" for savvier users (be it from institution side or community side) to combine into a "main block" for slightly more customized deal/need.
Somehow this may allow evolution into much higher community participation that uses the platform for their own structured tokens, i.e. financial engineers, fund managers, analysts, etc can use the "building blocks" to structure their own deal and then veritize such deal. It would very much be like independent project teams making use of Ethereum's smart contract system to issue their own ICO/token with specialized uses/purposes. In my opinion, this will actually help Veritaseum to be very broad-based with very high financial and economic functionality. Not only will Reggie no longer needed as a "key man", but Veritaseum would also be formidable on its own.
The price should be very bullish (even by crypto standard) if my suggestion is implemented, in my opinion.
Dorkie - I like getting your perspectives because you're a smart guy but you can be a bit critical at times. Let's look at the positives & give some credit where credit is due - Reggie's put some really great stuff out there & it's clear that he & the VERI team have been working extremely hard behind the scenes. Was aware of the good efforts the devs had been putting into the VeDAIR (bc Reggie had been posting the latest editions & updates to Twitter so that didn't come as a huge surprise), but the analysts have clearly been kicking it into overdrive - I had no idea they had analyzed as much as they have - in fact, the analysts are perhaps the part of this project that has me the most excited - if they're really accurate, the bots are going to be very effective & generating phenomenal yields. With their proven track record (macro & micro-economic) of the last 15-20years there's nothing to suggest otherwise. This should finally silence that paid lighthouse fudster smear campaign. The video is a nice personalized picture in terms of how Reggie builds his relationships & I think it speaks volumes to the type of man he is. The Jamaican Minister certainly has a lot of faith in his abilities & is very passionate about the future of VERI & it's abilities to propel Jamaica to the next level. Very inspiring seeing Mr. Shaw speak with Jamaicans & their enthusiasm for the fiscal direction of their country. He's not your typical bureaucrat. Totally charismatic guy who knows how to relate to people - I wish more politicians were like him. Jamaica is certainly headed in the right direction with forward thinking people like him guiding the ship & I can't help but feel the country is destined for some really great things. I'm excited about the VEDAIR, VERI Rental machine - this interactive research is cutting edge stuff... makes me really excited to be part of this developing story. It'll be fascinating to see all of these VeTokenized items on an exchange for the first time! - flour mills, hotels, real estate properties, etc. Reggie has me inspired & I can't wait to see the unfolding VERI story - he understood the possibilities of blockchain 5years ago when he filed all of those patents & I had no idea what he was describing when I watched videos at the time but it was clear that he was onto something big & I knew he was going to go on to do great things. The more I learn, the more excited & inspired I become!! It's a totally ambitious project, but if there's anyone who can pull this off, it's Reggie. I think Reggie mentioned that VERI has a centralized & a distributed (decentralized) solution. My take was he's starting with the centralized JSE/VERI system (since that's what institutions are used to/ comfortable w/ & doesn't require much of a leap) but when they're ready for the next step, he'll have the distributed solution available & ready to implement. That's the ultimate goal, but it'll take some time to get there - Reggie understands this. He's thinking 5 steps ahead & flexible to adapt/adjust as the need arises (as evidenced by his move from btc blockchain to eth blockchain already - not an easy task to move chains, but he & his team have done it). All that said - you do make a good suggestion & I know Masiah follows the threads - so I'm sure he'll pass your ideas on to the big guy who will give it due consideration. A big day for VERI! Keep up the great work Reggie & Co - you're making us HODLers proud!!!  Wow...very well said! Thanks for giving your perspective. |
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Don't get me wrong, I hold PPT and I like the original business idea and have read the WP and watched interviews on youtube, but...
Are you not at all worried that the website has been in 'off mode' for a long time and there hasn't been any news, no Telegram chat, etc?
What is going on there, anybody know and care to share some updates?
I haven't had a chance to check in over the last couple of days, but they are actually pretty good about giving updates in the Slack group. They shared a draft version of the new website in the members area and it looks very good! There is also a very active Telegram group. It's not official, but updates are discussed frequently. |
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Can someone explain to me why they really think PayPie has good potential? I read the whitepaper before the pre-ICO and passed because it didn't make sense to me. But I still see people who are very excited about the project, so I want to understand what they really see in it now that it's trading at a big discount.
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No idea exactly why my post below was deleted, but I sense insecurity. Unless it is truly OFF TOPIC, there is no reason to delete it.
It is pitiful that the Veritaseum community has reach such a lowlife level whereby relevant comments are deleted.
My words do not determine your success or failure.
You determine your success and failure.
I am just saying it as it is.So far there is NO institution buyer to the token, but merely deals to set up blockchain-based platform. That is wrong. Reggie has mentioned at least a few institutional deals. Of course, these are not publicly announced. Unless this is confirmed, I wouldn't bet just on words alone. Like I said, the deals are just about building a blockchain-based platform for the customers, not about buying the token.Indeed I agree Reggie is a highly competent analyst, but that's the only competency he has in my humble opinion, because so far nothing else stands out.
Don't discount his Rolodex and business acumen and history. The hedge funds will call VERI way before they call LAToken because he's an insider (or the closest thing). That's why I said he is just a very competent analyst. Being an analyst means having good business acumen and making the right calls. This still has nothing to do with any other competencies, to be frank about it. Whether hedge funds will call VERI way before LAToken / Proof is just personal opinion and remain to be seen, but so far I am very sure NO institutional buyer for VERI token otherwise the order book and the token price progression will reflect that very obviously.
Reggie is too concentrated in making deals at institutional level (upper level) while "selling the hype" at non-user/non-customer community level (lower level) and I believe this is a defective strategy. Obviously I know his reason for reaching out to the community but he is not doing this the smart way. And the way I see it, Reggie is a stubborn man with false pride gained solely from his analytical competency, so things will have a very hard time improving. If the institutional deals fall through, there will be nothing else to "sell/maintain the hype". Just because a person is highly competent in analytics doesn't mean he is a genius. And a non-genius that is stubborn at the same time will someday meet failure in life when his luck runs out. Veritaseum has its handicaps.I participated in the HEDGE ICO and can say it most certainly was not junk and this project is something to pay attention to. It's an index for crypto's for fiat lovers who still want to invest in the market without actually converting to digital currencies, the token itself is just used to pay the platform fees. Check it out if you're interested.
As for Veri, I took a large loss and bought at 200$ and 100$ but will hold as I believe in Reggie but man this has been a really tough couple of months. I second the claim that companies are taking shots at Veri and they are most certainly winning...
Sorry for your VERI loss. It is probably as bad as my LAToken and PayPie losses. Was a big mistake in going against my gut feeling and bought into Clif High & Gang's stupid recommendation on PayPie. I participated in Hedge too, through Rialto. I hope it will very soon launch its crypto ETF because that will be very bullish.
I agree with you on a few points, but I hope you're wrong. I bought into VERI post-ICO largely on the basis of Reggie's knowledge and connections, but I'm not thrilled with his ability to execute. What we've been able to see so far hasn't been very impressive, but I'm still holding out hope that there will be a strong market for his services if he's able to get it all together. Let's remind ourselves that all of these ico's are startup companies. Things don't happen overnight. Reggie is working hard. People investing in traditional markets do well to get 6% a year... now let's compare that to Veritaseum at it's ICO price... which was open for a full month & people had plenty of opportunity to get into. Veritaseum started selling at 3$/token. Now it's up to what... 49??? by my count that's still 15X your money... people are upset because it hasn't gone up a million times as yet. People investing in cryptos are spoiled. Have a little patience, people. Governments, which Reggie is working with, take forever to get things done. The man will get the job done. I'm being patient and understand the scale of what he's trying to accomplish. I'm actually not that bothered by the fact that I'm carrying it at a loss. It's more that I'm disappointed in the quality that I've seen so far, even taking into consideration it's still early days. I still have faith he can get the job done, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have hesitations as well. |
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No idea exactly why my post below was deleted, but I sense insecurity. Unless it is truly OFF TOPIC, there is no reason to delete it.
It is pitiful that the Veritaseum community has reach such a lowlife level whereby relevant comments are deleted.
My words do not determine your success or failure.
You determine your success and failure.
I am just saying it as it is.So far there is NO institution buyer to the token, but merely deals to set up blockchain-based platform. That is wrong. Reggie has mentioned at least a few institutional deals. Of course, these are not publicly announced. Unless this is confirmed, I wouldn't bet just on words alone. Like I said, the deals are just about building a blockchain-based platform for the customers, not about buying the token.Indeed I agree Reggie is a highly competent analyst, but that's the only competency he has in my humble opinion, because so far nothing else stands out.
Don't discount his Rolodex and business acumen and history. The hedge funds will call VERI way before they call LAToken because he's an insider (or the closest thing). That's why I said he is just a very competent analyst. Being an analyst means having good business acumen and making the right calls. This still has nothing to do with any other competencies, to be frank about it. Whether hedge funds will call VERI way before LAToken / Proof is just personal opinion and remain to be seen, but so far I am very sure NO institutional buyer for VERI token otherwise the order book and the token price progression will reflect that very obviously.
Reggie is too concentrated in making deals at institutional level (upper level) while "selling the hype" at non-user/non-customer community level (lower level) and I believe this is a defective strategy. Obviously I know his reason for reaching out to the community but he is not doing this the smart way. And the way I see it, Reggie is a stubborn man with false pride gained solely from his analytical competency, so things will have a very hard time improving. If the institutional deals fall through, there will be nothing else to "sell/maintain the hype". Just because a person is highly competent in analytics doesn't mean he is a genius. And a non-genius that is stubborn at the same time will someday meet failure in life when his luck runs out. Veritaseum has its handicaps.I participated in the HEDGE ICO and can say it most certainly was not junk and this project is something to pay attention to. It's an index for crypto's for fiat lovers who still want to invest in the market without actually converting to digital currencies, the token itself is just used to pay the platform fees. Check it out if you're interested.
As for Veri, I took a large loss and bought at 200$ and 100$ but will hold as I believe in Reggie but man this has been a really tough couple of months. I second the claim that companies are taking shots at Veri and they are most certainly winning...
Sorry for your VERI loss. It is probably as bad as my LAToken and PayPie losses. Was a big mistake in going against my gut feeling and bought into Clif High & Gang's stupid recommendation on PayPie. I participated in Hedge too, through Rialto. I hope it will very soon launch its crypto ETF because that will be very bullish.
I agree with you on a few points, but I hope you're wrong. I bought into VERI post-ICO largely on the basis of Reggie's knowledge and connections, but I'm not thrilled with his ability to execute. What we've been able to see so far hasn't been very impressive, but I'm still holding out hope that there will be a strong market for his services if he's able to get it all together. |
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RAGE, what's your source for the "new website end of October" info?
Last I heard through the Slack channel was their attorneys approved the Terms and Conditions, and the site would go live in a few days. That was a couple of days ago, but I haven't had a chance to follow the discussions since then. |
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Has anyone ever had a problem withdrawing funds?
So far I have not any trouble withdrawing funds. It can take a little while to get the confirmations needed sometimes, but not longer than 20 minutes or so and usually shorter. I have had NO problem at all with Bitpetite paying! In fact just for kicks, i used their chat feature to ask a random question just to see if they answered it... And i had to wait for long while for someone to get to me in the cue (40 minutes actually) , but a guy named "Darren" got back to me and answered all of my questions in detail and in perfect English and was very clear and easy to get answers from and also pretty fun to talk to--actually a real person--and i kidded with him about Bitpetite being thought of a scam and he said he could see why people thought that but they are here to stay. So their support responds--in the chat feature at least--and is a real person. Also if you get delayed deposits or withdrawals they have a link where you can see exactly where your coin is in the process and how many confirmations etc... Its a short run till you get your money back plus 47%... 6 weeks. I invested 1 bitcoin when it was at $5729 and am making $257 a day weekdays and $56 weekends. only 47% of your dividends is profit and the rest is the return of your original investment... So its not exactly as crazy a % as people think... Basically you get 47% profit by the end and you break even about 4 weeks into your 6 weeks. BTW, Its Sunday and I just withdrew over .019 bitcoin before i started writing this and it is already confirmed... so like 5 minutes. P.S. Always get your money back in coins instead of USD--since the market is trending up (generally)--that way you might make even make more profit because the Bitpetite dividends are computed based the price of Bitcoin when you got in. If it goes up--you got back your coin plus your profit, plus the profit on the rise in Bitcoin! OBVIOUSLY I WAS 100% WRONG!!!! DO NOT INVEST IN THIS SITE OR ANY OTHER SITE WITH HIGH RETURNS LIKE THIS. I H AVE JUST HAD A HARD LESSON. THEY ARE ALL CROOKS AND IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. ONLY WAY TO MAKE YOUR OWN MONEY IS TRADING OR HOLDING. DONT INVEST IN HIGH YIELD PROGRAMS. THEY ARE ALL GOING TO GO DOWN SOONER OR LATER AND USUALL SOONER. VERY SAD. I HOPE NO ONE SIGNED UP AFTER READING MY POST! WHAT IN IDIOT I WAS. TOTALLY CLOSED DOWN TOTALLY SCAMMED ME. I AM HEARTBROKEN. LOST MY FIRST AND ONLY BITCOIN. DEVASTATED. LOST $5200! REALLY JUST CANT EVEN.... NEVER AGAIN. I'm sorry for your loss. For what it's worth, I did not end up putting in any money even after you replied to my question. |
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I have used IE, Chrome and Firefox and I have the same problem. I put in my email and password and click the purple enter button and nothing happens. Anybody else having this trouble?
Everyone is having the same problem as they are working on upgrading the database. Are you not in their Telegram group? I didn't put any money into Bitpetite, but I've been following it out of curiosity and heard that the Telegram group has been deleted. It's not looking good for anyone that invested. |
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In december, ATLANT will launch its coin on Quoinex (trading platform owned by https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/quoine/), which is HUGE. How did they succeed in doing this? They seem actually very involved. Yes, it is still the ICO-phase but I am wondering if they will 'abandon the community' after the ICO closes (because you have to admit, that is how it feels like with a website that isn't updated, non-working videos, not responsive team even though they have a communications manager) like REAL did? Don't get me wrong, I am still rooting for REAL, but competition is though in cryptoland. I don't think they understand that. Unless in November REAL shakes out a magic REAL-rabbit out their sleeve, I will be wondering. Maybe I invested in the wrong ICO? Prove me wrong REAL-team. I don't like Atlant for other reasons, but I think they do a good job running their business. That said, REAL and Atlant are very different businesses and don't really compete with each other. |
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Hope they will announce the budget of investment this week and we can decide on REAL a bit more easier.
I'm pretty sure they are making it a priority now, so I'm hoping it'll be available this week as well. Yup. Atleast come with a clear statement on how things are going. They've been sharing info on Telegram. I wouldn't say they are the most active communicators, but they aren't silent. Yeah, I have see the devs and support team have little activity in this forum. It seems they transfered to Telegram and usually use telegram or twitter to announce or reply the question of the investors. Beside that, the current price of Real token really good to buy a lot, you should not to miss this chance, I think current price really the bottom price of this token. (1/3 = ICO price, USD rates) I'll try to explain where the price comes from. Based on how many ether they gathered (37049 ETH) and how many tokens investors received (10055817 REAL) we get a price of 0,00369 eth per real. If they were to invest all $11.153.126 then that more less would be the price today. However they still didn't say anything about changing their operational budget. Therefore 8 million still stands. If we deduct those 8 millions from $11.153.126 we get 3.153.126 dollars of 'investable' money. 3.153.126 / 11.153.126 = 28,27% 0,00369 / 0,001 (today's price) = 27,10 % It seems like a lot of people still aren't grasping how simple it is to value this company. There are a few things the team could change that would have a direct impact on price, but right now it's just as you said - investable cash divided by number of tokens. |
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ATLANT Announces Partnership with Asia Prestige ManagementATLANT and Asia Prestige Management partner to bring ATLANT platform benefits to APM properties upon launch of the ATLANT platform in March, 2018
ATLANT has signed a Letter of Intent (LOI) with Asia Prestige Management, the owner and manager of the popular Zazz Hotels and Resorts brand, to bring its unique approach to property tokenization and P2P rentals to Asia Prestige Management properties upon ATLANT’s platform launch in March, 2018.
Julian Svirsky, ATLANT CEO said, “We are pleased to announce this partnership with Asia Prestige Management, and we are looking forward to offering the benefits of property tokenization and P2P rentals for various properties on the ATLANT platform when it is launched in March of next year.”
ASIA PRESTIGE MANAGEMENT PROPERTY PHOTOS
ABOUT ASIA PRESTIGE MANAGEMENT
Headquartered in Hong Kong, Asia Prestige Management is a rapidly expanding property investment and hospitality management company. The company owns and operates hotels as well as manages independently owned properties. For additional details, please see http://ap-mgmt.com/
ABOUT ATLANT
ATLANT is a revolutionary global real estate platform enabling tokenization of real estate ownership and P2P rentals. The rapidly growing ATLANT team is both distributed and global, with current team members in the U.S., the U.K., Russia and Hong Kong. The ATLANT platform is scheduled for launch in March 2018.
For additional details, and/or to participate in ATLANT’s ICO (ending Tuesday, October 31, 2017), please visit https://atlant.io/. Any idea what the partnership is specifically about? Is it tokenization the property to decentralize ownership, or is the company just trying to rent hotel rooms P2P? |
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Hope they will announce the budget of investment this week and we can decide on REAL a bit more easier.
I'm pretty sure they are making it a priority now, so I'm hoping it'll be available this week as well. Yup. Atleast come with a clear statement on how things are going. They've been sharing info on Telegram. I wouldn't say they are the most active communicators, but they aren't silent. Yeah, I have see the devs and support team have little activity in this forum. It seems they transfered to Telegram and usually use telegram or twitter to announce or reply the question of the investors. Beside that, the current price of Real token really good to buy a lot, you should not to miss this chance, I think current price really the bottom price of this token. (1/3 = ICO price, USD rates) The next week or so is really important. Aside from releasing the final budget, there are a few things they could do to help the token price. |
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I'm pretty optimistic for REAL.
I feel comfortable saying this because I'm happy at the amount I have now, and I'm not going to buy any more now (apart from one outstanding order).
The price right now it seems like it's trading at a discount.
If the operators say "Right guys, it's been REAL" (get it) and liquidate the entire lot into cash/ether everyone still makes ~33% min on the current price.
That's including their take.
Can you share your calculation? I'm not sure how you're coming up with those numbers. |
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