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361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Odds, units advantage | Sportsbook | +82959 units on: August 18, 2022, 02:01:18 PM
. And another thing that caught my attention is the odds that Haaland will score a goal today 1.22 - if i could bet on the opposite event, I would do it.
You can on some bookies, I did not use it for quite long so I am not sure anymore but I belive betfair had that option. Buwytress will probably be able to confirm. Memory is not what it was  Wink

That option is called lay betting and can come quite handy, as it would for you today.

I used to bet against couple of favorits. For instance City, Barca and Inter today. If anybody doesn't win my bet is winning. That sort of thing.

Due to the country of residence, it is quite problematic for me to use fiat bookmakers, maybe I will try to understand p2p crypto markets because betting against such crazy odds (like that Haaland will score a goal = 1.22) looks like too profitable. I would like to see the emotions of people who bet on Haaland and with Manchester City's 4-0 victory they still lost ) Such bets are even worse than betting on winning a Formula 1 race with odds of 1.5-1.6.

And yeah 1.5 is just a limit for myself because of boosts and bonuses. Percentage wise, you can't squeeze much out of 1.1 (boosts are on prices not stake) unless you can find 10% boost.

 And in particular, Sportsbet and Fortunejack free insurances are for 1.5. Stake too IIRC although they generally offer 1.3 limit but switch it out for other increases.

Interesting. In fact, we have a situation where, at odds of >1.5, there is a sharp increase in the value/effectiveness of the bet. I'm trying to understand at whose expense this is happening. The margin of the bookmakers is already quite small, therefore, it should not decrease sharply. I'll try to check the math of these actions a little later.
362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Threshold of Loss in Gambling on: August 18, 2022, 01:45:20 PM
It's good that you are taking the losses in a positive way by learning a lesson of how to not chase your losses.
But at the same time the losses shouldn't have gone to 50% at first place. When I say 10% of my savings I make sure to deposit only that much amount for the month.
So that amount is my hard stop and the maximum I can lose. It won't matter if I lose it all in a single day or keep playing with that amount for the entire month.
The next deposit will only be in the next month.

It’s a good strategy, but it seems to me that you are either initially not very involved in gambling, or vice versa, you already have serious experience. I thought so because allocating a budget once a month is a rare event, and if you do not use additional money management (breaking down this budget at least into weeks), then losing at the beginning of the month is very difficult to wait for its end. For example, I am not much involved in gambling and I have discipline but it would be difficult for me to wait even one week if I wanted to play a little.
363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Profitable are Gambling Bots? on: August 18, 2022, 01:21:40 PM
The use of bots for poker gambling in my opinion is impossible to provide easily and of course it is very risky because you can immediately lose your money and poker gambling when using a bot then it could possibly harm the gambling place itself because of the possibility of being able to read dealer cards, So that it is rare for a poker gambling place to provide bots because the decision is in their own hands.

I heard that many players say that poker bots exist and work and I saw some investigations on reddit. But there is no direct evidence, this remains only the speculation of the players (probably angry that they lost). But I know that there are programs that collect statistics about the behavior of players in different situations so that later, based on this statistics, you can understand how they play and, for example, recognize a bluff. Such programs can be called bots, although they do not perform a game function.
364  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Government Owned Online Casinos What Do You Think Of Its Potential on: August 17, 2022, 05:45:05 PM
Unfortunately, that is really the sad reality in the world we live in because there is only few public officials who were really honest during their term especially if they were exposed to this kind of industries that will make them instant reach if they want but they chose not to. But mostly, as you said, there are more corrupt officials than the good ones and many officials have already been proven guilty and been jailed for it.

Honestly, it's much better for a country not to run any gambling business that their own government officials will man it because that will just result to an unwanted situations. It's still much better to just reap the fruits year from the revenues generated by these private gambling businesses.

Therefore, the share of the state should be reduced to a minimum wherever possible. We can't have private courts or police (although some functions like security can be performed by private firms) but I don't see any reason why we should involve the state in running the casino business. A lot of individuals and organizations are ready to do this, compete with each other and provide the best service - why break this working system? After all, in the end we will get the worst product with a corrupt official. It's just not wise.
365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: August 17, 2022, 05:34:25 PM
The defensive game from Rangers PSV after getting a lot of goals then they always apply a defensive game and so far both defenses are very good and seem to be able to read the strategies applied by each team, at least August 25 will meet again and at least these two teams are still there is time to do practice trials using other strategies so that it is difficult to beat.

I think PSV will easily win in the Netherlands, in this pair they are much stronger. Apparently the fate of the Rangers to fight for the Europa League )

In today's game Dynamo - Benfica, Benfica looks like a favorite, but a repeat of the score 2-2 is possible. Both teams score a lot, but at the same time concede goals, so Dynamo can play evenly in the home game and it will be a productive draw. The easiest choice for this game is BTTS.
366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CHESS] FIDE Candidates Chess Tournament 2022 on: August 17, 2022, 05:16:12 PM
Has anyone noticed on YouTube that Carlsen is advertising some kind of casino? I don't remember the name, but I do remember the slogan "Zero Risk Gambling" hahaha. Judging by his participation in poker competitions and this advertisement, it can be assumed that he is increasingly immersed in the world of gambling. Is this just making money interesting or is he seriously interested in this area? I hope this is a passing fad, I would like to see him in the next cycles of the Candidates Tournament.
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368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To build your Professionalism on casino on: August 16, 2022, 08:38:58 PM
Lending money to a friend who is addicted to gambling could only make him fall into gambling addiction more. That will not help him but rather make his situation worse despite your good intention to help him. It will be better to help him rise and recover from his gambling addiction. Let him realize that what he's been doing is wrong. Giving him money is temporary but the life advice would be permanent especially if he will listen.

In fact, when your gambling addict friend asks for a loan, there are no good solutions. In 99.9% of cases, you will either lose a friend, or money, or both. I do not think that the advice can change anything in his situation, since at this stage of addiction, only more radical methods of treatment will be effective. And as you rightly noted, a friend's interest in treatment is also necessary.
369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: August 16, 2022, 08:27:42 PM
Yea , ATL. Madrid played well and it seems they are chasing a lot of goals this year as well so let's hope their defenders will be on top of their game this year.

Now , how about Betis ? This team is still having a great pace and a great chemistry between players so don't sleep on them neither in LaLiga but also Europa League as we saw last year that they should be able to reach the quarter finals once more.

Maybe the arrival of Morata will return Atlético's performance to its previous level (last season was a failure for them, not only in terms of points scored, but also in terms of goals scored). Then they will again be able to return to the championship race, although now no one (judging by the odds from the bookmakers) believes in them. This would be great since everyone is talking about Real Madrid and Barcelona, but what justifies the high assessment of Barcelona is not clear, since they still cannot even decide on their composition and are in general in crisis.
370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino can play a role in changing fortune? on: August 15, 2022, 08:38:22 AM
This is one rare success story coming from gambling but this is something that must not inspire people to gamble so they can set up or salvage their company, the guy has a combination of character and luck, if he has a weak character and is easily swayed he'll just turn to gamble to make money but he opted to work on his company to make it to the top with hard work and determination, I admire his determination more than his decision to turn to gamble.

If we analyze this case, then in fact gambling may not be taken into account here - maybe he would have changed his mindset from watching some movie or book. I would say that the key to this story is not that he went to the casino, but that he had his own company. Probably not every casino visitor has his own company hehe. If I go to the casino tomorrow and even win 10-20 thousand dollars, then it will not change anything for me, since I am not a business owner.
371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: August 15, 2022, 08:20:30 AM
Team spirit is the Arlington Major Champion. What a series they have against PSG.LGD.

I never expected that axe last pick on collapse, that was brilliant. LGD has a good start. They are dominating the lane and even stole the creep stack of miposhka, I really thought LGD will win Game 4 but after the first team wipe, team Spirit took the helm and never looked back. All the controls from rubick and axe, the heal and sustain from chen pushed team spirit to Arlington Major Championship.

PSG.LGD another defeat on a BO5 series. They are really good in group stages and playoff that I cannot believe they will lose in the most important series of the tournament. They have more defeat in the Finals than in group and playoff stage together. Choking much?

Team Spirit had two incredible streaks in a row - the loser's bracket final also consisted of comebacks (I don't understand how they have the mental strength to play second all the time waiting for a chance to turn the game). In the final, the decisive game was the second - after it, PSG broke down and made too many mistakes in the remaining two, which, by the way, is strange, since it could be assumed that, taking into account the final of the loser bracket, Team Spirit will be a more tired team and the longer the final lasts, the weaker they will be play. It turns out that yesterday Team Spirit spent more than 10 hours on stage and they had enough strength to win.
372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [DOTA2] PGL Arlington Major 2022 Prediction Thread on: August 14, 2022, 03:27:32 PM
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9 minutes to go for the Lower Bracket Finals between TS and Aster. I’m torn to choose between Aster -1.5 or over 2.5 map.  Huh

Live bets show practically the same odds of teams:

Team Spirit 1.80

Team Aster 1.95

In my opinion, in this scenario, it is more reliable to take a total over 2.5. In general, the game looks like it is completely random, so I will not place bets here, but just enjoy the game (although I prefer LoL).
373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Some Tips To Aide Successful Sports Betting. on: August 14, 2022, 03:15:01 PM
I think the main tip would be understanding the basics of any sports and having an extensive knowledge, for example if a player is on top and is most likely to win, then he gets hurt then you must change your bet as well, it's not that simple things keeps on happening therefore sometimes it's essential to know your basics and have a good general knowledge of whatever sports you are going to bet on.
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But in most cases, bookmakers get information faster than you (those rare cases when someone has an insider does not make sense to take into account), so when you decide to change the bet, the odds of the bookmakers will already be changed taking into account this event. It is clear that reacting to events, your bets will be closer to winning than if you place a bet a month before the event and forget about it, but the question is not just to be more accurate, but to be more accurate than the bookmaker.
374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 14, 2022, 02:51:57 PM
The trio of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are playing brilliantly. However, Messi could not score a goal. Even so, Messi's performance was good enough. On the other hand, Neymar scored two goals and Mbappe scored one. Neymar and Mbappe's chemistry with Messi is getting better, resulting in PSG's overall performance. Galtier's match formation seems quite useful to me. PSG's gameplay will be more stable in this 3-4-1-2 formation if PSG's defenders are able to play well.

It will be interesting to see how long this chemistry lasts. It is said that Neymar (who by the way scored an insane amount of points in the goal + pass system in just two games) on Instagram liked a post criticizing Mbappe. In recent days, Mbappe has been talking a lot about who is worthy of Ballon d'Or and naturally does not forget to mention himself, it seems that at least Neymar does not like this and, in general, it looks like Mbappe has caught a star disease.
375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: August 14, 2022, 02:42:26 PM
I was surprised how Manchester united did not concede more goals, conceding four goals in 35 minutes. Because it was clear that this staff would do a bad job no matter how expensive they were. The room started to get worse as the goalkeeper watched the stoppers. The first two goals conceded by the Manchester goalkeeper are unforgivable. Ronaldo should save himself from this team before the transfer season is over.

I understand my assumption will sound absolutely unbelievable, but maybe the Manchester United players for some reason are not happy with Ten Hag and are trying to merge him? Sometimes this happens when the team plays poorly on purpose so that the management gets rid of the coach (because it is easier to change the coach than all the players), the question is what could happen between the coach and the team, that everything came to such affairs and even at the beginning of the season when Manchester United had every chance to fight with the rest on an equal footing.
376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: An alternative to gambling with money. on: August 13, 2022, 06:14:16 PM
Playing with fake money has a way of even giving a player more chance of winning and luck than when you use real money which always gives a false impression that you are ready but non-ideally, you are just preparing to feed your money to a casino because you will lose to them.
It is not as if gamblers don't just want to play with fake money, they do but there is no joy in winning fake money you wouldn't be able to withdraw but there may be fun in trying and getting the experience of the game especially if you don't know much about it.

By experience, you probably mean the ability to play/knowledge of the rules and game mechanics (poker or blackjack or something similar)? Because I don't know what kind of experience comes from playing slots where the player presses one button and watches the result. Even in dice, you can say that it is interesting to try different auto-betting settings (different strategies), but it is clear in advance that in the end you will still lose. And by the way, playing for fake money, for example, poker, will not give all the experience that a real game gives, since in a real game a huge component of the strategy is psychological pressure on opponents by raising the bet.
377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: August 13, 2022, 03:44:49 PM
oh man ! what crazy results ! leipzig only draws 2:2 against cologne and leverkusen loses against augsburg 1:2 .
and bremen gets a point in the 94 minute. 2:2 .
and tonight there is another match: schalke against mönchengladbach . will there also be a big surprise there ?

The most shocking result in my opinion is Bayer's loss at home to Augsburg. Now Bayer has 0 points after two rounds and is in last place - who would have guessed that?
It seems to me that the limit of surprises has already been exhausted in this round, so in the remaining matches you can safely bet on the favorite, the only problem is that there is only one favorite in the remaining three pairs - Bayern and the odds of it winning is 1.13, which can hardly be considered a big win.
378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Problem Gambler Feels After Losing on: August 13, 2022, 02:29:37 PM
Only a fool would gamble if he had problems with his finances. I believe that you can only gamble with money that you can immediately part with and not regret it. If a person is gambling in order to improve his financial situation by spending his last money, he obviously needs help from specialists, because he has a problem with his head.

You say this as if all people are smart in all matters, and meeting a fool in life is a rare case ;-) In fact, there are many people who are simply stupid, plus there are many people who are smart in some way but suffer from a lack of common sense, so some wacky idea, but wrapped in a beautiful package, can deceive them. For example, not gambling, but trading (Forex, etc.), not astrology, but Technical Analysis and so on.
379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Odds, units advantage | Sportsbook | +82959 units on: August 13, 2022, 02:08:36 PM
Hey Boristhecat, thanks for your comment, and of course, almost every bet I make here is not the expected result, and I would never put a lot of money on it -- that is the whole point of squeezing value out though Wink Sorry for both of us... HT 14/10 is bad for me I only take HT wins at above 15/10 Wink

Which brings us to City losing to AFC Bournemouth? Surely they win 1 out of 20 hames?

100 units at Sportsbet.io @38.40. Other odds: 35.70
Units advantage: 270

Running advantage after 5 bets: +270
All-time cumulative: +83,394
Running units after 4 bets (2W|2L): +1,375 (-100)

Yes, I understand the meaning of distance betting. In any case, betting is a conversation about a distance, no matter what the odds are 1.1 or 20 and not about a one-time event that you have to guess. By the way, why more than 1.5? Due to bonuses/insurance (if I remember correctly, the bonus increase in multibet odds, etc., starts from this number).

The odds 38 look absolutely insane (like City are already leading 3-0 hahaha). And another thing that caught my attention is the odds that Haaland will score a goal today 1.22 - if i could bet on the opposite event, I would do it.
380  Economy / Gambling / Re: I want to make a telegram live betting group… on: August 12, 2022, 08:07:30 AM
From my observations, it clearly shows that OP's aim on this forum was only to refer us to a so called Telegram group, where in the future could promote an affiliate link or sell fake fixed matches, because looking at the profile, it shows that since the day this thread was made, he has never come online again to either read opinions or cared about replying to comments. Maybe he thought he could drop link here and in just one day get 1000 followers, but sorry to say that's not how things work here.
Here is his profile review, showing date account was created 28th May 2022, Thread posted same date and last seen 29th May 2022 (the next day). Which clearly shows that he/she came here to get telegram followers


I agree with your conclusions. It would be nice if the moderators closed this topic.
If someone wants to discuss live betting, then he can do it on the forum - if potential participants in the discussion have time and interest, they will answer on the forum, telegram are not needed here. And in general, I don’t know who is interested in the opinion (even a specialist) of any person in a live game - everyone has their own strategy, their own bankroll, so advice that will be useful for one better will be harmful for another.
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