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361  Economy / Economics / Re: cool shirts on: November 28, 2010, 06:22:56 PM
I can't help noticing the irony of these T-shirts being sold in $


haha yea - someone should send a message to those guys and suggest that they accept bitcoin.
362  Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement on: November 28, 2010, 06:22:11 PM
I think you're unintentionally spreading FUD here. If you give something away into the public domain (in jurisdictions where that can be done) you can't be sued for it. If you think that's not the case, show me a link to a counterexample.
i will do just that, then, my friend Smiley
apparently you have not heard of the rather famous JMRI court case....

in brief: 'good guy' writes foss software. licensis it under the weak "artistic license". 'bad guy' goes and makes a closed-source offshoot of it, even files some patents, and then sues the original author for infringing his patent/copyright.

I know the JMRI court case well, but it's not a counterexample because (1) no-one gave anything away into the public domain (the software was permissively licensed), and (2) Katzer sued the original author for infringing his patent, NOT for infringing copyright.

For sure, the patent system is seriously broken, as is the court system, but even so Katzer lost in the end and "good guy" Jacobsen won.


well, if you read perens's analysis of the case, the very permissive 'artistic license' made the case for the 'good side' more difficult. 'public domain' would have even worse issues.

i'm specifically referring to the second link i posted:
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/features/article.php/3866316/Bruce-Perens-Inside-Open-Sources-Historic-Victory
363  Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement on: November 28, 2010, 06:28:55 AM
Evildoers' deeds could be used as political ammunition.

Mostly to damage the credibility of copyright and patent institution in question.

I won't say it is not without risk, to be copyfree.

well, more power to you, whatever makes you happy.

but as i see it, protesting thievery by leaving your valuables on the sidewalk is not a functional long-term strategy. Smiley
364  Economy / Economics / Re: Growing the Copyfree Movement on: November 28, 2010, 06:07:23 AM
I think you're unintentionally spreading FUD here. If you give something away into the public domain (in jurisdictions where that can be done) you can't be sued for it. If you think that's not the case, show me a link to a counterexample.
i will do just that, then, my friend Smiley
apparently you have not heard of the rather famous JMRI court case.
Here are some links you may find enlightening:

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3775446/Bruce+Perens:+A+Big+Change+for+Open+Source.htm
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/features/article.php/3866316/Bruce-Perens-Inside-Open-Sources-Historic-Victory
http://perens.com/works/testimony/PerensJMRI.pdf

in brief: 'good guy' writes foss software. licensis it under the weak "artistic license". 'bad guy' goes and makes a closed-source offshoot of it, even files some patents, and then sues the original author for infringing his patent/copyright.

if you read bruce perens' analysis, the case was made much harder since the weak 'artistic license' was used.

after you're done with that, might want to see bruce's analysis of foss licenses: http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3803101/Bruce-Perens-How-Many-Open-Source-Licenses-Do-You-Need.htm

In summary... I'm firmly in the camp of using copyleft-style licenses. If i make something and give it out for free, I want the takers to return the favor.
365  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Earning 5 BTC A Week Challenge on: November 28, 2010, 05:40:22 AM
does trading in the market count? (aka, 'exchange services' Smiley ), or do you only count 'real goods and services' for the challenge?
366  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Dear mystery man on: November 28, 2010, 05:38:24 AM
let's start a guessing game.
i claim $100! Smiley
367  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Diaspora Invites on: November 28, 2010, 01:41:43 AM
Invitations for this Diaspora Pod are closed right now. Don't worry, your invite will still work, please try again in about a week.

sorry, that's outside of my control...
i can send you your .5 btc back if you like - but then once they let you back in, you'll send it back to me Smiley or you could just wait a bit. Wink
368  Economy / Economics / Re: transferring money as a service on: November 26, 2010, 07:58:00 AM
also you should look into ripple-project.org Smiley

I thought ripple was loaning money? Nobody is owed after this transaction, everyone is paid up front

my understanding is that you should be able to both pull (borrow) and push (prepay) along a credit path.
369  Economy / Economics / Re: transferring money as a service on: November 26, 2010, 07:33:27 AM
also you should look into ripple-project.org Smiley
370  Other / Archival / Re: One File PHP Paywall on: November 26, 2010, 07:23:24 AM
which version of gpl? Wink
and... if pot is reached, will you post code on say, github, and continue development?
371  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Version 0.3.17 on: November 26, 2010, 07:20:12 AM
Are you planning on changing the fee for every transaction?

yes, when it gets to the point that fees really make a difference in speed of getting into the chain... i might send a larger fee for transactions i want to be fast, and smaller or none where i don't care about speed (e.g., donations).
372  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Diaspora Invites on: November 26, 2010, 07:18:08 AM
Google Wave 2.0? Smiley

I am also want invite!

hey, no, it's not google wave 2.0, it's more like facebook 2.0...

that said, if you want an invite, i've got one to sell for .5btc.

look me up on freenode irc, or send me pm on forum.
373  Other / Off-topic / Re: Open Source Bank on: November 26, 2010, 06:19:06 AM
See my recent post on Ripple open decentralized finance here:

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1923.0

+1 for this. eliminate the bank altogether - route credit through web of trust.
374  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Of Bounties. on: November 26, 2010, 06:14:58 AM


P.S. best thread ever! Smiley
375  Other / Archival / Re: One File PHP Paywall on: November 26, 2010, 06:00:06 AM
What if you never reached the total set by the artist?  Tongue




simple: artist can decide whether to take what's been collected and release the file, or return all contributions and keep the file to himself.
376  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Diaspora Invites on: November 26, 2010, 05:50:36 AM
Invite received in good order, thanks! Smiley
377  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Diaspora Invites on: November 26, 2010, 05:40:20 AM
i'll take one. pm me here on the forum or on irc. Smiley
378  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Version 0.3.17 on: November 26, 2010, 04:21:43 AM
that's what the "added transaction fee setting in UI options menu" bit is. you can set the fee you'll pay through the gui. (earlier it was only possible with bitcoind.)

Yes, I found that in .17 and it is cool. But I think the 'send coins' dialog is better place for this because of usability. It gives easier way how to set up fee separately for every transaction. But it is only an idea and I'm happy also for current solution.

yea, i also think that the 'send coins' dialog is a better place for it. or at least, to have it in both.
379  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoins sub-nets on: November 26, 2010, 04:14:52 AM
you might be able to do this on top of ripple (ripple-project.org)
people can 'accumulate' ripple credits, which can be 'settled' with bitcoins once they reach a certain amount.
380  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Version 0.3.17 on: November 26, 2010, 01:04:56 AM
Is transaction fee used for confirmation priorities? If yes, it would be cool to allow changes of fees directly on 'send coins' dialog. For some donations of few bitcoins I don't care about time, but if I want to send coins to somebody who is waiting to confirmation, it can help...

that's what the "added transaction fee setting in UI options menu" bit is. you can set the fee you'll pay through the gui. (earlier it was only possible with bitcoind.)
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