I am genuinely looking forward to seeing what response you, brg444, icebreaker, hdbuck et al. provide for our entertainment if the network actually forks to classic and no disaster occurs. All that brazen supercilious venom spewed over the last year with potentially nothing to show for haha. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'm glad you're finding it hilarious. I don't. Because I invested non-trivial portion of my portfolio into Bitcoin and I'd hate it all to go "poof!" if a hostile hard fork backfires and the net DOES split into two. Are you willing to bet ALL your BTC that this has a zero chance of happening? I would not be so sure. Still got time to cut your loose ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) *Not much tho, look at them Classic nodes springing up! Like mushrooms after an autumn rain ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Actually, those classic nodes are more like fungus spreading on the corpses of XT/unlimited nodes. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Accordingly, I still have troubles understanding when the blocksize and/or scaling issues are presented as "an emergency."
Do you understand the principle of non-parallel lines in a two-dimensional cartesian coordinate system? No. I don't understand: "non-parallel lines in a two-dimensional cartesian coordinate system." It's may sound fancy, but it's very simple. This is a (logarithmic) graph of the number of Bitcoin transactions over time: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3NDNv9A.png&t=663&c=sX08gkGjrCq2mA) The interactive version is here: https://oxt.me/chartsThe blue line is the number of transactions in a given month. In December and January there were 6 million transactions per month. The maximum per day that can be processed is about 250,000, so that's 7.5 million per month. To visualize that maximum, you could draw a horizontal line in the graph at 7,500,000. As you can see, the growth in transactions is pretty steady, in this logarithmic graph it's almost a straight line (so the growth is actually exponential). If you extrapolate that line to the future, it will cross the horizontal line at 7,500,000 tx at some point. In fact, if two lines don't run parallel, you know for sure they will cross each other sometime. I haven't felt any significant delay because usually the transaction will show up with zero confirmations within 5 minutes or so then I can rest assured that it is coming to me.
When blocks become persistently full, you will never be able to safely assume that a zero-conf transaction will ever get included in a block. And that is a fact. O.k. I will accept your representation. Currently, we seem to be a long ways away from the "fact" that you are asserting to be coming about, and from my understanding, there are several potential bandaid solutions in place until a possible more permanent solution is agreed upon or implemented by coup de at... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) It will only take a few more months before the lines will cross. I wouldn't call that a long way off. And rolling out a hard fork takes time. So yes, time is running out fast. Andre#, have you developed a sense of humor yet or are you just as "spot on" as ever? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Price crashed again, woohoo!!
Good job Gavin with your shit-eating grin and all you "classic" FUDsters! Right on!
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Gavin's big dial with the shit-eating grin on front of r/bitcoin again ... dump incoming.
edit: notice how he releases these controversial posts at critical timings for technical price breakouts ... or coincidence?
Shit-eating grin lol! Wouldn't be surprised.
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The only sneaky shills around here are people like you trying to undermine bitcoin with your garbage alt coin promotion. But, try as you like (and you certainly do), you will fail utterly and fortunately.
You're fkn retarded. By your logic you're not even using Bitcoin, and none of us are. We're all using an altcoin that just happens to ALSO be named Bitcoin. What kind of mumbo-jumbo are you spewing? And so you resort to insults. Typical, from half-wits like you. It seems as though in your world a HF to increase the block size limit makes it an altcoin. If we take that as truth, then Bitcoin ceased to be "true" Bitcoin and became an altcoin when the block cap was originally put in place. Effectively using your argument to promote Core over Classic is arguing for one shitcoin over another, and we left Bitcoin behind ages ago. Wow. That was a bit of a stretch! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Was it? I think it was spot on. You're right. It was spot on toilet paper. spot on/dʒ/ adjective & adverb BRITISH informalcompletely accurate or accurately. "your reviews are spot on" synonyms: accurate, correct, right, perfect, exact, unerring, so as to hit the nail on the head; Oh. OK. I thought you were referring to the fact it was a spot on toilet paper. No, that fact only existed in your imagination. Perhaps you need reading glasses. Dunno. Admit it Andre#, nothing beats a poop joke. Any attempt to save Bitcoin from being completely and utterly destroyed would be in vain after this. Andre# has a rather poor sense of humor. Maybe he's a little spot on too! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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The only sneaky shills around here are people like you trying to undermine bitcoin with your garbage alt coin promotion. But, try as you like (and you certainly do), you will fail utterly and fortunately.
You're fkn retarded. By your logic you're not even using Bitcoin, and none of us are. We're all using an altcoin that just happens to ALSO be named Bitcoin. What kind of mumbo-jumbo are you spewing? And so you resort to insults. Typical, from half-wits like you. It seems as though in your world a HF to increase the block size limit makes it an altcoin. If we take that as truth, then Bitcoin ceased to be "true" Bitcoin and became an altcoin when the block cap was originally put in place. Effectively using your argument to promote Core over Classic is arguing for one shitcoin over another, and we left Bitcoin behind ages ago. Wow. That was a bit of a stretch! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Was it? I think it was spot on. You're right. It was spot on toilet paper. spot on/dʒ/ adjective & adverb BRITISH informalcompletely accurate or accurately. "your reviews are spot on" synonyms: accurate, correct, right, perfect, exact, unerring, so as to hit the nail on the head; Oh. OK. I thought you were referring to the fact it was a spot on toilet paper.
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The only sneaky shills around here are people like you trying to undermine bitcoin with your garbage alt coin promotion. But, try as you like (and you certainly do), you will fail utterly and fortunately.
You're fkn retarded. By your logic you're not even using Bitcoin, and none of us are. We're all using an altcoin that just happens to ALSO be named Bitcoin. What kind of mumbo-jumbo are you spewing? And so you resort to insults. Typical, from half-wits like you. It seems as though in your world a HF to increase the block size limit makes it an altcoin. If we take that as truth, then Bitcoin ceased to be "true" Bitcoin and became an altcoin when the block cap was originally put in place. Effectively using your argument to promote Core over Classic is arguing for one shitcoin over another, and we left Bitcoin behind ages ago. Wow. That was a bit of a stretch! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Was it? I think it was spot on. You're right. It was spot on toilet paper.
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The only sneaky shills around here are people like you trying to undermine bitcoin with your garbage alt coin promotion. But, try as you like (and you certainly do), you will fail utterly and fortunately.
You're fkn retarded. By your logic you're not even using Bitcoin, and none of us are. We're all using an altcoin that just happens to ALSO be named Bitcoin. What kind of mumbo-jumbo are you spewing? And so you resort to insults. Typical, from half-wits like you. It seems as though in your world a HF to increase the block size limit makes it an altcoin. If we take that as truth, then Bitcoin ceased to be "true" Bitcoin and became an altcoin when the block cap was originally put in place. Effectively using your argument to promote Core over Classic is arguing for one shitcoin over another, and we left Bitcoin behind ages ago. Wow. That was a bit of a stretch! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Listen. You and your ilk are trying hard to derail bitcoin with your classic/xt/misc.garbage propoganda but that's OK. 'Cause it won't work out anyway!
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The only sneaky shills around here are people like you trying to undermine bitcoin with your garbage alt coin promotion. But, try as you like (and you certainly do), you will fail utterly and fortunately.
You're fkn retarded. By your logic you're not even using Bitcoin, and none of us are. We're all using an altcoin that just happens to ALSO be named Bitcoin. What kind of mumbo-jumbo are you spewing? And so you resort to insults. Typical, from half-wits like you.
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I don't think so. I doubt he would approve of subversive altcoin garbage like "Classic" and the chumps behind it.
... as you and your shills sell out bitcoin to the very people it was conceived to bypass. And not even as an altcoin implementation - but bitcoin itself. Look at what you have done: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvlasti.net%2Fnews%2Fnews122009%2F71655%2Fdata%2F46432061e6e40fe01a63c5b49542c29f.jpg&t=663&c=xBHPnlL_WLSlOw) The only sneaky shills around here are people like you trying to undermine bitcoin with your garbage alt coin promotion. But, try as you like (and you certainly do), you will fail utterly and fortunately.
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The routing problem is further complicated because they don't only want to route transactions. They want to take a slice and collect a fee for doing so. This is a fee that will come directly out of the pockets of miners and will make Bitcoin less secure. Blockstream hobbles bitcoin, gives it a crutch and then tries to take credit that it can walk. If Core loses their position as reference client developers, they should try a career in government. Greg would make a pretty good banker. Why not give it a try?? Looks like he's making the same mistakes bankers made in the early 2000s as well. Introducing products he doesn't understand and/or doesn't understand the consequences of. Ha! Bankers don't make mistakes - they still make money either way. And Greg is just realising that he doesn't really need to 'sell' anything now - the deal is done and dusted. But what I cant get with is the fact that he knows he has no solution to routing, but is willing to pretend otherwise. Seems a dangerous strategy. But maybe its the only game left. And it seems to be working - getting Horizons and AXA onboard ( albeit with a lot less money than they are letting on) is no mean achievement. But it will be the death of Bitcoin as the vast majority of its community understand it to be. Satoshi might post his opinion backed by his PGP key to stop his creation mutating into something he opposes. His voice could change attitudes faster than anything else. Most of the community would back his opinion because he is the instigator of the Bitcoin project. If he's alive he must be following what's happening to Bitcoin. He has probably expressed his opinion many times, but was banned for 'trolling core'. I don't think so. I doubt he would approve of subversive altcoin garbage like "Classic" and the chumps behind it.
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No I didnt. That helps? O_O ill try asap.
Also, do you have the bitshopper.de version or version from novak/sidehack?
Basically, it was necessary to make them start hashing. I have the North American versions.
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I am having the very same problems as Arnette99. I got the bitshopper.de versions, using windows 10 I can see them in cgminer when I connect them WHILE the cgminer is running (if I connect them before, it crashes after a little while after startup).
zadig driver installed, zlib1 present tried bfgminer, without any luck both miners in USB2 ports on PC. cgminer 4.9.2.
it says no hashes, then restarting, then failure - zombie, then the cycle repeats.
Please help :/
Did you try unplugging and replugging them while cgminer is running?
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I run my 2 sticks on Windows10 with no problems at all.
Everything has been very straightforward and the sticks always perform wonderfully.
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Well it should run fine at 150Mhs, but verify the Vcore.
Check the 1st post for "how-to"
Also try cgminer --benchmark
Thanks, I don't have a multimeter here but I can try and get one. I took a photo of the vcore adjustment screw. According to the diagram I am thinking it is around 0.6-0.65V. http://imgur.com/54k7zoH. I ran cgminer with the benchmark flag, but am not getting anything new. It seems like it is trying to run it at 125mhz by default in the benchmark. First of all it had an issue restarting the device - http://imgur.com/VXDFFjAThen it just cycles through the COMPAC numbers in order, retrying constantly - http://imgur.com/h5cUcQTAnything else I could try without a voltmeter? Also, your R47 chip has kind of a "melted" appearance.
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it's been covered recently, but remember they're home made with care and they linked to be tinkered with Try another port/computer just in case And make sure USB power saving is disabled Alright so I got to give it a try at home with my voltmeter. It was set at 0.7V. I had the same error message on this PC. It looks like it did hash very briefly, but received an error before it could complete. I tried changing the voltage in a few increments down to 0.55V and then back up to 0.8V, but had the same result regardless. I've set it back to 0.7v for now. Here is a photo of what i'm getting.. http://imgur.com/agqC9qfI have tried unplugging and plugging back in multiple times, different ports, also tried uninstalling entirely from the system and then reinstalling with Zadig. No change. Did you download and add the missing zlib1.dll to the modified cgminer?
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it's been covered recently, but remember they're home made with care and they linked to be tinkered with Try another port/computer just in case And make sure USB power saving is disabled Will test it on another computer tonight when I have a voltmeter and get back to you ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Simply unplug and replug the stick while cgminer is running.
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For the noobs asking if this is a bad or good thing; this is the short of it.
Blockchain technology will not and can not work without something like Bitcoin at its core to insure its security; the big legacy banks were told this but they refused to admit it (at lest not publicly).
so...
The Banks were like "we don't need you, will build our own network" and went and highered armies of tech savvy engineers to build the impossible. They failed...
and now after many months of secret back door meetings they are back poking around our community and spreading wads of money to anyone willing to turn to the dark side.
Bitcoin developers, luminaries and figure heads are being lobbied by people with very deep pockets; this is the 3rd and 4th failed attempt to hardfork the Bitcoin network into something they see as more accommodating to their needs.
Can I get paid for this? Link please. I wanna buy a boat! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffunnypicturesplus.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F02%2Ffat-man-boat.jpg&t=663&c=OaTiU7BBtrwORQ) Yes, you definitely can get paid for this. Many people do. You need a link to understand that maybe there are some people/organizations that don't like/trust bitcoin's disruptive nature and would prefer to have it co-opted or destroyed? That's funny and sad! Look into it, then buy your boat.
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Could anyone help me out please. I am on windows i have installed the winusb driver with zag as you can see here; ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYPpAtQa.png&t=663&c=7X1k5KxA4TIiUQ) However when i run CGminer i just get errors that it does not have permission; ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtUoUqrC.png&t=663&c=BpOF1LJDphs_rg) 1BURGERAXHH6Yi6LRybRJK7ybEm5m5HwTr is GekkoScience's address. You should use your own. Did you download and add zlib1.dll? Have you tried simply unplugging and replugging them while cgminer is running?
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Solitude, where are you? We need some more cutting edge remarks such as : It's the same faggots dribbling the same nonsense in this thread.
some Juan Juan faggot, some billyjean faggot, i can't even remember your stupid names.
I can't even be bothered ignoring you retards, I just scroll down past whatever you idiots say.
Why don't you faggots get a hobby or something, you're the kings of the special olympics, absolute fucking retards.
Sell your coins or don't i dont give a fuck, i'll be the one having the last laugh when Bitcoin goes through the roof.
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