IMHO at the time NAV implement anon it will not matter anymore  Well, that's Your opinion. I'm sure it will be totally different than You claim, but well... we will see who was right  |
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true but i think we have to have a few weeks/months of patience. This because the first beta period isnt over yet and untill that is finished we dont see the anon beta getting launched.
But i have to say things are turning more positive with regular updates and stuff like that. Its just a matter of time before we reach a point that nav will be interesting for the mass as well.
Yeah but the problem is.. When this coin is released from sum2 -> navajo and all the attention about ANON everybody want that because ANON should mean $$.. We also saw that in the price what rised verry fast to the top 50 on coinmarketcap. After that nothing happen anymore, and we also saw that on the vallue from the coin. NAV dropped down to place 174 ( checked 10 sec ago ). While in the mean time many other coins get launched with anon transaction. Those coins rised in the coinmarketcap, but also that nothing changed, they all fall back below 100 and lower. WHY? People lost the intereset in ANON transaction.. The only thing people want now is darkcoin or bitcoin. Bitcoin because its world wide, and darkcoin for the criminals what will change the darkcoin into bitcoin.. So at the end the only thing people want is make profit with the alt coins and get there bitcoins. Ofc there are a few altcoins what are doing great business in the real world if u look at cannabiscoin ( cannabis patients can buy there goods in herbal centers in America with paying cannabiscoin CANN ).. But also that is a small market.. Navajo should be released directly with an anon beta wallet.. Now 4-5months later there is still nothing changed.. I'm not here for FUD or anything else, but u must see the reality in ur eyes. It's not good when new comming people in this cryptoworld get advised by u guys for buying more and more, and 1 day later they make big lost. Because everyday now like 3 months non stop, the price is getting lower and lower. Be fair for urself and for other people. I sold all of those coins already because i already lost enough money by this many words but zero actions. Ofc i will buy again when there are getting actions and no words. Also something simple like the POD ( proof of dev status ) is still missing after weeks.. Most coins are releasing with the POD status on the op. So it's not hard to get that status if the dev got a good attention. So can somebody tell me why the nav team did not receive the POD status? What is the reason for that?  i agree with most of your story. but lets be clear i never push people to buy! buying coins is always risky, nobody can give guarantees. its possible nothing happens when anon gets released, its also possible price will spike....nobody knows. anon still gives a coin more value, but i agree that for the long term the anon has to be combined with something in the real world, like a marketplace, so demand for the usage will go up. I can't agree here bros. Real Anonymous Solution still hasn't been made in crypto. Darkcoin - yeah, it's a good technology, but it doesn't provide FULL anonymity. That's a fact. About other anon coins - most of them are pretty much copy/paste solutions. They don't provide true and full anonymity either. They just give some part of it - makes transactions harder (but still able to !) to trace. New, innovative Anon System can really become a huge deal in crypto world. Just my two sats  |
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Why is thread so silent?
Probably everyone waiting for possitive news about future updates, real updates which can change 250~sat level to min. 1k. Many coins made 10x grow in less than week, why nav cant do that? It can mate & it will. NAV will have it's time too |
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I'm glad that you all like the update. My hat goes off to Shahim for all his efforts.
I really hope that the recent series of timely releases restores your confidence that this coin has an active and dedicated team of developers behind it.
Slowly but steadily we will win the race.
Thanks for your continued support.
- Pakage
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but do the exchanges have their own wallets? i mean is it possible the top 2 are exchanges wallets?
I think it's highly possible, sure - exchanges have their own wallets. In most altcoin's richlists first addresses are exchange's wallets |
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I still have some SUM2. Wtf am I gonna do with ? Please
Can I get some NAV with my SUM2 ? Swap process was long time ago mate and it lasted really long, so everyone had time to swap. Swap period was even extended so everyone had chance to swap their coins. Community accepted the end of the swap process back then and nobody had problems with it. Swapping can't lasts for ever, if anyone had serious amount of SUM, he swapped it. I don't believe that You suddenly remembered about the fact that You didn't swap Your SUM today, after such a long time. Btw. Do You have SUM or SUM2? |
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Hi, Thanks for the update! Design looks great, and nice to see its integrated into the website!!! My guess was prety close regarding the <35 bagholders who have 500k+ Anyone know who the top 2 in the list are? 3 million both lol, thats a lot of coins Or is it possible those 2 accounts are bittrex and cryptsy or dont the exchanges have an own account? cheers Robin I think that first 2/3 are exchange's wallets. It's most usually this way in other altcoins too |
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I'm so tired for watching this thread, is so awful for me, there is still no news and there is no movements on the price.
Woah, what's that bro? There was wallet update last week and updated timeline for some of the projects on the website. There was movements on the price, the current price won't be that low for long. The thing with news is that they won't be jumping up for You, just when You want them to see. News comes when they comes. In NAV You can be sure that there will be more great news, becouse Dev Team is active and available everyday, working to deliver projects asap. It's pretty simple mate, it's not a pump and dump or hype coin atm (just not yet ) it's about patience and mid/long term investing at this point. Just my two satoshis |
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WTF ?  That's just regular Cryptsy style of doing things. They should delete that after putting NAV wallet online, but of course they forgot :facepalm: However that banner doesn't mean anything anymore, since Cryptsy updated NAV wallet already today and trading & deposits are online |
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Just got this PM from strugg.
"Hi nousernamesleft
Like I said I understand You completely and I agree that we need to ask soopy many difficult questions. But please leave it to us - dev Team. You are talking very negatively in the thread about the same things. It won't help You, won't help the Community. We know that we have to ask soopy all these questions and we will do it asap. Things will change. So please just leave it for us and stop writing all the time about that in the thread - You said many important things and we will ask soopy about everything You wanted.
Best Regards
- Strugg"
If Ben Franklin were still alive, I'm sure he'd have a few choice words for him. PRIVACY / SECURITY / FREEDOM All 3 are important, not just the first two and anonymous chat.
I'm only negative because I've been waiting almost 3 months for these same promises to manifest. I left it to the devs, and nothing happened. Trust is at an all time low. Anon was supposed to be ready for beta when I bought in. I think it's time to see some proof of code. NOW. Shit or get off the pot. I invested real money. Let's see what we all invested in!
Be careful who you try to censor. You may be stirring a wasp's nest!
He is not trying to censor you, he is only trying to get soopy back. The real problem is that all negative talk or criticism, however genuine, has the potential to scare a DEV away. How would you feel if you were the DEV and everybody was just complaining after you have put in weeks of hard work and talent for free? I'm not trying to get soopy back, becouse he didn't go anywhere lol. Just need to improve our way of work and communication, that's also that what nousernamesleft suggested |
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To reiterate what Remy_5 said - without a valid block explorer none will take nav seriously and he is right we need that more than anon right now.
Sure mate, but don't make such a big deal about it. NAV was having well working block explorer for the long time and there is just an issue with one, so we will get another. That is just a small thing, which doesn't need to many talk around it |
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Have you actually read the last few pages? The website's up, beta chat client has been released, there's new dev's helping out.
Everything is under control and we're in good shape to move forward.
+1 First steps taken and there's more great things ahead for NAV |
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Is the 2.5 wallet due this upcoming Friday? If so, the devs may wish to put it on their roadmap.
One potential issue I see is there are several rather large gaps time-wise in their roadmap, at least according to crypto-time, with several weeks between upcoming projects. I realize it may sound ridiculous to think several weeks is a big deal, but in crypto-time and those with trader ADD, weeks = months.
Even if it's a small project, it may not be a bad idea to put it on the roadmap, just to keep the price stable. I'd also suggest sticking in a roadmap date for marketplace screenshots, beta versions, or anything similar, just so something can be seen before the actual marketplace is released.
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I must say I don't understand the logic behind this planned pump.
Are you trying to help the dumping of people who want out?
Already some people even on this thread have made known that they are waiting for a rise to sell what they have and move on
Unless the pump is coordinated with the anon release there is no point because within the day the price will be back where it is now
Hell, even I am tempted to sell at the pump and buy back when you announce it like this
In my opinion the better idea is building the strong basement above 400 sat. There will be a time for pumps too |
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Official Timeline of Messaging System's Beta Testings Beta Testings of our new feature - Messaging System built into the wallet are starting tommorow (27/08/2014).
Ending of Beta Testings depends on the amount of changes/improvements requested by the Community.
Best Regards
- Soopy452000; Navajo Coin Development Team Remember to join tommorow's tests folks |
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navajo is on the way to the moon Is to the moon or hell, see today, developers can update. If we can timely updates and anonymous functions, then there must be a big leap. If you can't update, then the result is one can imagine. Feel it will go to the hell.  If the update is implement,why don't the dev just release it? I don't exactly know what You're trying to say here, but You are free to fell however You want. But that is just FUD for now, since the whole Dev Team was saying few times already that there will be an Update this weekend. Why You just can't wait for it without spreading Your silly doubts? |
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Hey guys i have problem with my navajo wallet.. The power disapeared becouse i had storm in my country and it was staking, then i wanted to open it but it has error.. Anybody know how to fix that?  Thanks That problem is often seen also in other coin's wallets, practically can happen in every coin's client. I had it few times and if I remember well, You need to: 1. Copy Your wallet.dat file (very important! keep this file!) 2. Get in Users>Admin (or other user name)>AppData>Roaming>NavajoCoinwallet 3. Delete whole navajocoin wallet in roaming 4. Install Your Navajo Coin wallet again 5. Change wallet's files in Roaming>Navajocoinwallet>... for Your old, previously copied wallet.dat 6. done That should work, it worked in my LTC, SUM and few other coin's wallets before |
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Our agreement was in relation to an "all or nothing" scenario.
Either the developers release a working platform and get the coins, or they don't and investors get refunded. We have now moved in to the arbitration window of our agreement, and have imposed a 48 hour deadline to resolve the current problems. Had they released nothing before now, they would not have this window, the agreement would have been voided before now. The issues occurred after launch, and that is why they have an extension.
What if the people asking for refunds are less than the ones willing to wait for the devs to resolve issues past the 48 hours? In that scenario, we would have to seek legal counsel (and are planning to do so tomorrow) to see if the agreement can be amended while active, to allow for a partial refund policy based on investor demand. Just burn the refunded coins in that situation. That would bring the coin back to life fast. but but Dan Wasyluk danosphere Team Manager & Coding GeniusCoding Genius, not Coding GOD. He might be able to code well (and even the best will have issues), but it does not mean he can see into the future. Just relax, <//////////>~ puff on one of these and chill. Some of you are so uptight. Well, They're uptight becouse this coin had a really big IPO. When someone pays in advance he wants to get the planned product. Simple as that. You think REAL VC investors are looking for a one day doubling of their money on Real Life companies? ROFL you tarded. Man, seriously don't throw me shit here with some "REAL VC investors" (lol). I'm not talking about profits, not talking about overnight richness. I'm just telling You that devs FUCKED UP the launch, so people has every freakin' right to be worried/angry. What you are doing is stroking the flames and destroying the value of the investments people have made. Real investors don't shit on their own brand, they pump it up, Keep Quite, or at the MINIMUM pretend like they believe in the goals to profit down the road. lol like I said tarded. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. First thing - there's no real investors in crypto. Just speculators. Second thing - like I said when "real investor" pays in advance (That's the problem I got - There was a huge amount of money paid IN ADVANCE). - he wants to get the planned product. If he don't get it, then he can be angry and judge other people's work. Sure, I get it, You are supporter, You want SYS to succed. That's ok. But stop blurring the reality. Facts remains the facts. I'm not FUDing etc. - I just don't like when people call others Fuders, becouse they are not jumping in the air all the time. BTW. Stop insulting people, becouse they got other opinion than Yours - it's really childish. That's all mate, I'm out of that discussion. Cheers |
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Our agreement was in relation to an "all or nothing" scenario.
Either the developers release a working platform and get the coins, or they don't and investors get refunded. We have now moved in to the arbitration window of our agreement, and have imposed a 48 hour deadline to resolve the current problems. Had they released nothing before now, they would not have this window, the agreement would have been voided before now. The issues occurred after launch, and that is why they have an extension.
What if the people asking for refunds are less than the ones willing to wait for the devs to resolve issues past the 48 hours? In that scenario, we would have to seek legal counsel (and are planning to do so tomorrow) to see if the agreement can be amended while active, to allow for a partial refund policy based on investor demand. Just burn the refunded coins in that situation. That would bring the coin back to life fast. but but Dan Wasyluk danosphere Team Manager & Coding GeniusCoding Genius, not Coding GOD. He might be able to code well (and even the best will have issues), but it does not mean he can see into the future. Just relax, <//////////>~ puff on one of these and chill. Some of you are so uptight. Well, They're uptight becouse this coin had a really big IPO. When someone pays in advance he wants to get the planned product. Simple as that. You think REAL VC investors are looking for a one day doubling of their money on Real Life companies? ROFL you tarded. Man, seriously don't throw me shit here with some "REAL VC investors" (lol). I'm not talking about profits, not talking about overnight richness. I'm just telling You that devs FUCKED UP the launch, so people has every freakin' right to be worried/angry. |
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