just putting it out there. remember the good old days when this forum was brimming with ideas and visions about great things that we could do with bitcoin? i fully expect you guys who have lost money to flame me about this, but i think a subforum for "conflict resolution" might be a good idea if you guys need to get it out of your systems. i can fully understand that it must suck to watch the value rise when you know your coins have been stolen though but still... brighter future, baby!
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this rally is not a pirate bubble this rally is a pirate bubble this rally is maybe a pirate bubble
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how about first looking at our social networks and seeing who we can reach with a clear, tight message about what it is, and why it is good for the people(s)?
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OMG immortal technique, yes!
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i am restarting a previous topic, which i shouldn't have started with a silly, provocative subject line.
the question is this:
how can we promote bitcoin to rappers? they have an enormous reach and in many cases have fairly anti-establishment ethics. in general, it seems that the rap and hip-hop community could really go far with this, helping the entire bitcoin cause.
think about the reach of the megaupload promotional video created by swizz beatz.
who is in connection with this scene and do we have any idea for promoting it?
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Lol. The Hutus and the Tutsis certainly held the same cultural beliefs . already said, "UK" and "US". is rwanda either one of those? no it isn't. now, how about the _actual topic_?
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you're right of course, but there is some undeniable solidarity between black people in the united states. i've noticed the same in the UK. that's what i'm talking about.
i made some suggestions, but it isn't my industry. getting it into the hands of a prominent rapper would go miles, and i believe my suggestion of someone like snoop dogg would be very very effective.
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and i assume, using bitcoin...
no one likes to talk about things like this in such terms, but allow me to be a bit brazen:
i think we need to get the beautiful dark-skinned people in all nations involved in the bitcoin scene. for obvious reasons, they're generally not super trusting of government or any conglomeration of oppressive power, but simultaneously wield a great power in terms of influence in popular culture.
who can we talk to about making the 'megaupload' video of bitcoin?
(actually serious)
I have a counter proposal for you. Make Bitcoin popular with folks from trailers in eastern Kentucky. That's likely more within the reach, the language barrier is smaller, etc. Once you get some success there you can challenge yourself further. LANGUAGE BARRIER? good grief. i'm glad i made this thread, maybe we can all air out how we really feel. not that i care as long as the original question gets discussed.
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does this use native widgets?
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Keep measuring people by their skin color and see how fast things improve...
HOWEVER, if you want to study the effects bitcoin could have on low economic countries/states/cities etc, that is another story entirely.
I have had some ideas along this line as well. Problem is now that Bitcoins are appreciating so fast that it doesn't work very well until we get more stability. We could make a basic price index that tracks in their currency and BTC. They could use this to track inflation by their government and then with that information, natives could decide to save in Bitcoin so they can try to preserve wealth that would of been eroded by inflation. This type of application I could see as being a major economic reform in under-developed countries. you think? this kind of 'study' only seems operable within a test-tube where _many_ environmental conditions are controllable. i think the only study that makes any sense is a live one aka getting bitcoin into peoples' hands and seeing what happens.
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and i assume, using bitcoin...
no one likes to talk about things like this in such terms, but allow me to be a bit brazen:
i think we need to get the beautiful dark-skinned people in all nations involved in the bitcoin scene. for obvious reasons, they're generally not super trusting of government or any conglomeration of oppressive power, but simultaneously wield a great power in terms of influence in popular culture.
who can we talk to about making the 'megaupload' video of bitcoin?
(actually serious)
Have you seen the Brazil following? → https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=29.0Leandro César is the manager of the "Mercado do Brasil". He has already had a major run-in with a major bank in his country. He decided to go after BTC even harder because of it. ( http://www.bitcoinbrasil.com.br/?p=422 ) He says, "O Brasil será o país do bitcoin, apesar dos pesares!" Translated, "The Brazil is the country of bitcoin, despite regrets!" Fantastic work Leandro! i wish that i could read more portuguese; i know nothing about what goes on down there. but the general truth of dark-skinned folks having popular media influence and distrust of government is true, then that's another example.
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(edited to remove confusing 'subculture')
try again folks. i am black. i used a provocative subject line and there is indeed 'racism' here, but it's nothing that you aren't aware of already. do black people identify with their culture, the borders defined by them largely by skin color? absolutely. i don't agree that this is somehow a good direction for humanity, but i never said anything about dumber/slower, either... that you came up with THAT is 'racist'.
now, enough of this nonsense: stop getting nervous about it and look at the question that i'm asking:
the black folk/community in the US and UK DO have an inherent suspicion of government and centralized power and they DO absolutely have popular media influence.
how do we promote bitcoin there? it could really take off, especially with the support of some popular rappers. imagine if snoop dogg/lion were pro-bitcoin for example.
this is why i gave the megaupload video example.
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and i assume, using bitcoin...
no one likes to talk about things like this in such terms, but allow me to be a bit brazen:
i think we need to get the beautiful dark-skinned people in all nations involved in the bitcoin scene. for obvious reasons, they're generally not super trusting of government or any conglomeration of oppressive power, but simultaneously wield a great power in terms of influence in popular culture.
who can we talk to about making the 'megaupload' video of bitcoin?
(actually serious)
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what are you guys betting is the mark where we see that mad-rush 'hockeystick' growth that leads to a crash and burn?
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yeah it's not like bitcoin has gone away. it's just been here, still going, for people to think about...
i don't think bitcoin mindshare among people who are really interested in it has gone down. quite the opposite.
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A 17yo in a mostly unregulated market playing with a toy currency can crank this out without much thought.
Fast forward a year or so where BTC has a LOT more legitimacy (and value) and an experienced developer sees a lot of risk:
regulatory laws endless KYC/AML homework personal liability against hackers personal liability operating as a bucket shop (betting against clients to promote liquidity)
And not much profit if you play strictly by the rules.
On top of that its very likely that an experienced developer has a lot more to lose (like a house).
This is why the exchange grew where it did...
In fact, this becomes obvious looking at the next generation of companies -- they are mostly created by groups of professionals from day 1. Bitinstant for example has a law firm on retainer.
We'll remember this summer as the period when the amateurs washed out and the pros stepped in...
i don't think we're ever going to see this kind of thing happen as a matter of requirement. bitcoin is an open-source, decentralized currency.
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...and start thinking about building bitcoin apps in a more distributed way, without central points of failure?
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What makes you think Private companies won't commit the same violations to civil liberties?
Two things: 2) When not socially accepted, the use of force is generally a losing proposition because all of civilized society will rebel against it. It's not like the company can keep secret their identity. The rest of society will refuse to do business with them, boycott their customers, and so on. (Unless the majority wants to go back to having a government, in which case, no system can stop a majority of force from forcing its way on everyone else.) Silk Road may be the first?
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