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361  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Know When to Stop. Lesson for Everyone, Particularly Investors on: October 19, 2023, 11:42:33 PM
Definitely, it is necessary to know where to stop loss when trading because there is a risk of losing the entire balance used especially when leveraged transactions are made. In addition, manually monitoring the price to stop losses in leveraged transactions may lead to a high risk of loss due to leverage or to loss of the balance used in the entire position due to a sudden price movement.

In addition, knowing where to stop the loss will help to save the balance used for the transaction with minimum loss and to use it in the same transaction parity in case of a potential different price movement. For this reason, it is absolutely logical to know where to stop the loss while opening a trade and to act accordingly.
362  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you find yourself doing unnecessary purchases when there is plenty.. on: October 19, 2023, 10:01:18 PM
...money flowing in? I'm not looking for solutions, I'm merely asking, something for discussion  Grin


To comment on my own behalf, it actually doesn't make any sense whether I have a lot of money or not for unnecessary expenses. To give an example of how I spend my salary, I usually think that since I have just received my salary in the first days of the month, I have money after all and I start spending like crazy. Of course, after a certain point I have a limited amount of money left because I spend most of my salary and then I start spending it thinking that I can at least buy or do this because I don't have much money left anyway. So when it comes to unnecessary expenses and me I see that I consume meaninglessly 😃

In summary, while I spend recklessly since I just received my salary at the beginning of the month, I continue to spend my money which decreases in the middle and towards the end of the month thinking that there isn't much left anyway. At the beginning of the month, I feel like a sports car with a full tank of fuel and at the middle and end of the month I feel like a truck whose brakes have burst and continues to go downhill by pressing the gas.
363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do your parents know about your gambling habit ? on: October 19, 2023, 06:19:45 PM
Most of the grown up people do not live with parents. At such, the parents are not aware about the interests and habits of individuals. Do you parents know that you gamble ? What was their first reaction towards your gambling habit ?

Of course, as someone who has been careful not to hide anything I have done from my family throughout my life, they know that I gamble because I have told them before. Of course, when I first started gambling I didn't tell my parents just like I didn't tell my parents when I first started smoking. But in both cases, I felt uncomfortable because I was doing something secret from my family and I said both of them without keeping it secret for a very long time. Since I earn my own money and I'm not addicted to gambling, my family doesn't interfere with me in any way and doesn't constantly give me advice when I gamble only for fun.

I think that especially people who have just started gambling and are hiding it from their families, people who have had a gambling addiction for a long time and are hiding it from their families and everyone who gambles for recreational purposes should tell this to their families. Your family needs to know this so that they don't hear about it from others and so that they can support you if you are in a bad situation. Remember that your family will be the one who will help and support you the most during this process especially if you have an unstoppable gambling addiction and it is very difficult to give up this addiction.
364  Local / Alternatif Kripto-Paralar / Re: Beşiktaş Fan Token on: October 19, 2023, 02:38:54 PM



Hem fiyat hem hacim düştükçe düşüyor 30'lardan itibaren ben de alım programına başlayacağım,

duygusal sebeplerden ve yönetim değiştikten sonra tepki alımları geleceğini düşünüyorum.


Grafikler paribu.com'dan alınmıştır

Her ne kadar önsatış sürecinde ve sonrasında iyi sayılabilecek bir işlem hacmi yakalanmış olsa da maalesef her geçen gün hacim ile fiyat birlikte gerilemeye devam ediyor. Sanırım kilitli şekilde önsatış sürecine katılan birçok kişi bu sebepten dolayı zarar edecek. Beşiktaş tarafından iyi bir başarı veya haber gelmediği sürece hızlı bir değerlenme süreci görebileceğimizi de düşünmüyorum çünkü bu kadar düşük işlem hacmi ile alıcıların baskın gelmesi ve fiyatın değerlenmesi pek mümkün değil gibi. Ayrıca, rakip takımlara göre kıyaslama yapmak gerekirse Beşiktaş'ın Galatasaray ve Fenerbahçe'ye kıyasla daha dar bir taraftar kitlesi bulunuyor ve bu da Beşiktaş'a ait token için ciddi bir dezavantaj. Üstelik bu iki rakibinin de Socios gibi bir altyapı kullanıyor olması da Beşiktaş'a kıyasla ciddi bir avantajken maalesef Beşiktaş tokenin değer kazanması için birçok sebep gerekmektedir.

Güncel fikrim henüz alım yapılacak durumda olmadığı yönünde fakat belirttiğin gibi 30'un altına fiyatın sarkması durumunda yavaş yavaş sepete biraz eklemek mantıklı olabilir. Özellikle dip seviyelerden toplamak sonrasında Beşiktaş tarafından da iyi bir haber gelmesi ile güzel bir kazanç fırsatı elde edilebilir.
365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: October 19, 2023, 02:53:01 AM
Yes, the essence is the same because they cannot always win in gambling, especially in gambling. They can experience losses more often than they win. For that reason, if a friend wants to borrow to finance it to trade on the crypto or forex market or even gamble, we can refuse it and say that we don't have much money to be able to finance it. If it involves money, it will be more troublesome because there have been many cases where someone couldn't return the money they borrowed to their friends, so they had to stay away from their friends and don't want to have any contact with them anymore. This debt problem is risky for us because it can negatively impact our friendship, and many people have experienced this. We have to be careful in this matter and don't let it happen to us.

It would be very risky to lend money to our friends to gamble. We know they will have difficulty paying the loan later, especially if they experience losses and lose all their money. They will not be able to return the money while we also need the money for our daily needs. I often experience this, but my friend borrows not to gamble but to buy his daily needs. Sometimes, I can lend him money but I only use free money that I don't use for other things. For the free money, I did not demand that he immediately return the money because I considered the money as a donation for his family and children, so I did not expect the money to be returned to me. But sometimes I can't lend him money because there are needs that I have to fulfill and he can understand my situation.

Of course, talking specifically about gambling it would be correct to point out that such people generally lose much more money than they earn. Moreover, in such a case the risk and return ratio will be abnormally unbalanced because it is very difficult to know when the person we are financing will stop gambling if they earns money from gambling but it is a fact that they will not stop gambling until they loses all the money they borrowed. Although I wouldn't agree to lend money to a friend who asks me to finance them for forex and cryptocurrency trading. I think it wouldn't be right to compare it with gambling. Indeed, a person who has experience in financial markets may have a higher rate of winnings compared to losses because this literally depends on experience but unfortunately this isn't the case in gambling. However, regardless of the circumstances and the earning status of the person being financed I think that in general the risk of loss and risk threshold will be greater if one gambles or trades without risking one's own money. Of course, when this is the case, this person will not be able to repay the debt on time or at all after losing all the money which will trigger a negative impact on the friendship. Certainly, it would be a more logical decision to reject friends who ask to borrow money especially for gambling as this has the potential to both result in the loss of the financed amount and deteriorate the friendship.

Finally, I would like to point out that just as you mentioned, if a friend of mine wants to borrow money for their daily expenses because he/she is in a difficult situation I can definitely do my best to help him without waiting for their repayment but if they asks for a loan to gamble or trade in financial markets, ,n this case I will easily reject this offer.
366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you leave gambling if your future wife/husband tells you to do this ? on: October 19, 2023, 01:13:04 AM
Will you leave gambling if your future wife/husband tells you to do this ?

Of course yes because I'm not a gambling addict and I gamble only for fun. Since I only gamble for fun, gambling doesn't cause any harm, addiction or negative effects for me but if the person I'm in a relationship with requests that I never gamble, it will not be difficult for me to give up this habit. As I mentioned, gambling doesn't have any negative impact on my life so I think the person I will be with will not make any requests about my gambling habit. Of course, even if it doesn't harm me in any way if I have a girlfriend who requests that I will not gamble in any way I can quit gambling because I don't have an addiction. Of course, since I would like to celebrate my jubilee before completely moving away from this fun, I can offer to gamble one last time and then not to gamble again. However, if the woman I love is disturbed by my gambling and wants me to stop gambling of course I can stop gambling because of my respect for her and not being addicted to gambling.
367  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade only Bitcoin on: October 18, 2023, 09:41:07 PM
Bitcoin always allows us to trade more reliably in the cryptocurrency markets compared to other altcoins. Especially in today's conditions, it is a very important advantage for Bitcoin that it leads the cryptocurrency markets in general due to its dominance. Of course, when the situation is like this, it wouldn't be right to choose only Bitcoin in order to trade reliably. Traders trading in the cryptocurrency markets must always analyze the Bitcoin price up to date because price changes in the Bitcoin price generally determine the direction of the market. However, this doesn't mean that only Bitcoin trading should be done. Altcoins should also be preferred to evaluate price changes in cryptocurrencies belonging to many other successful projects but when performing this trade the Bitcoin price must also be analyzed.

In summary, there are never ending opportunities in the cryptocurrency markets. For this reason, it isn't a good idea to choose only Bitcoin to trade reliably as trading only Bitcoin will cause potential investment opportunities to be missed. The important detail here is to always analyze the Bitcoin price when trading altcoins to identify the potential effects it may have and to help trade efficiently. So, to make a reliable trade it isn't necessary to trade only Bitcoin but it is very important to always follow the Bitcoin price.
368  Local / Türkçe (Turkish) / Re: Kaldıraçtan uzak durun! Bir Öykü. on: October 18, 2023, 06:00:53 PM
Daha önce hem kumarda hem de yüksek kaldıraç kullanarak ciddi miktarda zarar etmiş birisi olarak ben de yorum yapmak istiyorum. Öncelikle, benim kaybettiğim tutar konu sahibi arkadaşın kaybettiği tutarın yanında pek yüksek bir şey değil fakat bahsettiğim bu durumu 18-20 yaş aralığında yaşadığımı hesaba katmak gerekirse benim için oldukça iyi ve kaybetmemem durumunda çok daha iyi bir gençliğe sahip olabileceğim kadardı. Kumar, zaten başlı başına para kaybetmemiz için kurulmuş bir çeşit pahalı hobi ve tuzaktır. Bu sebeple, kumar için herhangi bir inanca sahip olmayan birisinin bile kumara uzak durulması gereken bir şey olarak bakması gerektiğini düşünüyorum. Kaldıraç ise, daha önce hiç deneyimlememiş veya çok az deneyimi bulunan kişiler tarafından maksimum 2x belki 3x olacak şekilde kullanılması gereken ve kesinlikle oranın arttırılmaması gereken bir şeydir. Kaldıraç, aslında kumar olmadığını ve tecrübe ile para kazanmanın mümkün olduğunu belirttiğimiz finansal piyasaları da bir çeşit kumara çevirmektedir. Üstelik, kaldıraç ile para kazanılması durumunda kişi anlamsız bir duygu ile neden daha fazlasını kazanmayayım psikolojisine kapılmaktadır. Madalyonun diğer yüzü olan kayıp durumunda ise tıpkı konu sahibi arkadaşın da belirttiği gibi mevcut zararın kolayca yeniden kazanılacağı ihtimaline de kapılmaya sebep olmaktadır.

Bu sebeple, siz siz olun hiçbir zaman açgözlülük ile ne yüksek kaldıraç kullanarak finansal piyasalarda işlemler yapın ne de kumarda daha fazla kazanmak için bahis tutarınızı artırmayın. Açgözlülük ve para kazanma hırsının devam etmesi durumunda bir gün siz de kendinizi bu şekilde öykünüzü anlatırken veya benim yaptığım gibi bir öykünün altına yaşadığınız acı dolu tecrübelerinizi mümkün olan en iyi şekilde ifade etmeye çalışırken bulabilirsiniz.
369  Local / Alternatif Kripto-Paralar / Re: Matic aldık bakalım ne olacak. on: October 18, 2023, 01:59:50 PM
haha Cheesy hey gidi günler.Matic gibi yükseliş beklediğim bir proje var 2024'de. araştırmalarım sürüyor.İyice kendi içimde emin olduktan sonra buraya yazacağım.

Konunun güncellenmesi ile tekrardan üst sıralara gelmesi tekrardan konuyu inceleme fırsatı elde etmeme sebep oldu. Konu içerisinde alım yapılan fiyat seviyelerini gördükçe çok doğru bir yatırım kararı olduğunu ve çok ciddi kazanç sağladığını görmek açıkçası senin adına sevinmeme de sebep oldu Smiley Özellikle çok ciddi zarar ettim fiyat 0.027 USD oldu ve ortalama fiyatın 0.017 USD seviyelerine kadar çekilmiş olduğu kısımları günümüz koşullarında mesajı okuduğum zaman yüzümde tatlı bir gülümseme olmasına sebep oldu. Umuyorum ki bahsettiğin proje de bu şekilde çılgınca bir getiri sağlayacak ve değerlendirme fırsatı elde eden tüm forum üyeleri buradan ekmeğini yiyecektir. Merakla paylaşımını bekleyecek ve sonrasında da kendi analizimi de yaparak bir miktar yeni paylaşacağın projeden alım yapacağım. Kim bilir, belki de bütçemi sarsmayacak bir alım Matic gibi değerlenir ve kendi adıma da sevinmek kısmet olur.
370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: October 18, 2023, 11:07:55 AM
The fact that gambling is involved, I don’t think he can be trusted when it comes to money matters. Although it’s okay if he will really use the money for good purposes, but when it comes to gambling using borrowed money, then never expect that he will still be able to repay you or even pay a portion of it.

However, I have never experienced financing a gambler ever since. And if it’s going to happen in the future, for sure I will never ride with it. I am a regular gambler so I know eventually the winning rate vs the losing rate. And most of the time, gamblers often lose so while the house is always the winner.

I definitely think that when it comes to gambling and lending money we shouldn't trust our friend who asks us to finance them because even if this person is our very close friend, we don't know or cannot predict whether they will be able to repay their debt if they loses that money. If this person is going to cover his/her personal expenses in exchange for borrowed money they will most likely pay the debt at as soon as possible but there is no guarantee that they will pay back if they loses money in gambling.

I have never encountered a situation where a person asked me to finance their gambling but I have had friends to whom I lent money for their personal expenses. If any of my friends asks me to finance them gambling in the future I think I will definitely not accept this offer because as someone who gambles frequently I know that the gambler side always loses money. As you said ''house is always the winner.''
371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don’t push playing more on: October 18, 2023, 07:46:22 AM
That's a long break, and it must have had an impact on you. It can stop being fun when you're experiencing losses. Personally, when I say "fun," I mean enjoying something regularly, but losing large amounts in gambling is not enjoyable. Sometimes, I tend to be unrealistic because I only focus on the happy moments in gambling, and during times of losses, it feels like I'm not winning at all.

I've come to realize that keeping a record of my gambling activity is essential if I want to keep track of my status, but it can take away from the fun aspect because it makes me feel like I'm taking gambling too seriously, almost like considering it a way to earn a living.

The best way to have fun is not to worry about budgeting, simply enjoy gambling, and if you win, go ahead and spend it all, then repeat the process.

Yes, I know this isn't a long enough break but this process is sufficient for me since I gamble for fun and don't exceed the limits I set without violating my own rules and have low losses. In addition, because I gamble not frequently and regularly but in certain periods, I take such short breaks during these periods. Especially when I examine the last few months, I see that I have had very low losses most of the time and this indicates that gambling is not a problem for me but it's fun for me. Since I'm definitely not someone who always wins at gambling I know when I should be happy if I win and when I should be sad and I don't ignore the games I constantly lose.

I never keep a record of my gambling activities because as I mentioned I have not had a loss that I would regret in a very long time and I think it isn't fun if constant records are kept. For this reason, I don't have any gambling records of my own and I only monitor my gambling activities by checking the deposit-withdrawal and gambling-betting history provided by the casino. Also, since I have long considered gambling as an expensive hobby rather than a method of earning money I definitely don't play for profit.

Just as you stated in your last sentence, I see gambling as a means of fun and for this reason I prefer to play games only with the amount that I will not be upset if I lose, usually until I consume my entire balance and I don't keep a record of this in any way. In the very rare case that I win several multiplier my money, I transfer that money to my wallet and use it again later when I want to gamble or use it for my personal expenses.
372  Local / Türkçe (Turkish) / Re: Cointelegraph manipülesi on: October 17, 2023, 07:30:34 PM
Dün fiyat hareketi ilk başladığı zaman canlı olarak fiyat takibini yapabilme fırsatım oldu. İlk başta fiyat hareketi çok sert bir şekilde gerçekleşirken bu haberi görmemiştim fakat fiyatın hemen hemen zirveye yaklaştığı zamanlarda habere denk geldim. Açıkçası, bunca zamandır ETF ertelemesi gerçekleştiği için haberin doğruluğu hakkında tam emin olamamıştım fakat fiyat hareketleri biraz şüphe etmeme sebep olmuştu. Ekran görüntüsünü incelediğim zaman böyle yüksek tutarlı bir işlemin bu kadar yüksek kaldıraç ile açılmış olmasını ve açılış fiyatının neredeyse gün içerisindeki dip fiyat olurken satış noktasının ise neredeyse tepe noktası olması gerçekten manipülasyon yapıldığını anlamam için yeterli oldu. Her ne kadar Cointelegraph tarafından bu kabul edilmese ve saçma bir sebep öne sunularak inkar ediliyor olsa da her şey manipülasyonun yapıldığını kanıtlıyor.

Bu ekran görüntüsünün gerçek olması ve kanıtlanması durumunda ise Cointelegraph hakkında yasal sürecin başlayacağını, kendileri için bunun ciddi sorunlar yaratacağını ve çok ciddi bir itibar kaybı yaşacaklarını düşünüyorum.
373  Economy / Economics / Re: Will people ever get tired of trading bitcoin? on: October 17, 2023, 02:44:46 PM
When the supply of bitcoin ends. Wouldn't people look for other things that'll serve them, other than bitcoin?

It wouldn't be right to answer no to this question because transactions are not carried out only with spot balances in financial markets. In addition to spot transactions, it is possible to trade in financial markets with futures, contracts and similar types of trading styles. In other words, in such transactions since the contract is actually purchased it is possible to trade more than the current or maximum supply of the traded financial product which we can see in gold. In other words, it isn't necessary for the Bitcoin supply to reach the maximum level or for there to be enough supply in the market for people to get bored of Bitcoin trading.

In summary, I wanted to explain that financial markets are not limited to spot transactions only and therefore a person can trade any amount he/she wishes. In other words, the fact that the supply in circulation has decreased or that any financial product has reached its maximum supply doesn't mean that people will prefer this financial instrument less or will get bored of trading it.
374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don’t push playing more on: October 17, 2023, 12:27:54 PM
Today I encountered again my biggest nemesis on gambling which is being stuck on my gambling progress. I’ve gambling for multiple days in a row with just having a breakeven on my total bankroll. This due to the game doesn’t gave me any long winning streak and only just more losses. The only thing that makes me keep up on the breakeven side is the increased on wager to recover my losses but my gambling result is literally 1 win to 3 or more losses ratio. This is how bad my overall game.

The only good news is this time I remember how this weakness of mine always makes me lose in the past so I stop already gambling and take a break. This is what I’m trying to share here. If you really feel that your gambling doesn’t want to make you move forward by having decent profit and just giving you a hard time then don’t hesitate to quit! Don’t push forward while you are already playing uncomfortably because this will just make you bet recklessly.

Have a break and just gamble newt week or month because a lucky game will make you win easily and not with a very hard to win winning condition.

Gambling is a kind of test in which a person has a hard time controlling their own desires and emotions. We've all made the same mistake you mentioned at least a few times. The important detail here is to obtain results from all these mistakes made in order not to repeat this mistake and to learn to control our psychology while gambling. The easiest way to achieve this is to set some rules for ourselves when we gamble and to continue gambling without going beyond these rules. Also, remembering that gambling is an expensive hobby not a method of making money, will definitely help you control yourself because usually the only thing that causes such mistakes in gambling is the ambition to make money.

Talking about myself, I can easily say that I generally gamble for fun but if I lose money quickly even though it is for fun I take a break for a few days and sometimes a few weeks.
375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Some gambling questions. on: October 17, 2023, 09:30:16 AM
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How many percent of signature earnings you gamble away?

I usually use a maximum of 20% of the earnings I make from signature campaign for gambling. In fact, most of the time since I use my salary, budget for gambling, I don't use the signature campaign earnings that I have earned for many weeks for gambling.

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Do you prefer Fiat or crypto at a display currency?

When I gamble in physical casinos I use fiat money but when I gamble in online casinos I use cryptocurrency.

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What is your favorite game you play all the time?

My favorite game type is slots but I also love and play roulette, blackjack and similar card games almost as much as slots.

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What is your favorite casino platform?

For physical casinos I can easily say that every casino owned by a hotel in my country is my favorite. Among online casino services, Coins.game which I started using due to my signature campaign has become my favorite.

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Are you a responsible gambler?

Yes, although I am gambling for fun, I gamble regularly.
376  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: You are also like them? on: October 17, 2023, 07:11:16 AM
Watching these YouTuber 'technical analysts' is like witnessing a comedy show. They just scribble lines on a Bitcoin chart and act like they're gazing into a crystal ball. But the reality is, they're about as accurate as a broken clock – right only twice a day. It's laughable how they sell this snake oil, predicting the future with squiggly lines. I wouldn't bet a Satoshi on their so-called insights!

To make a general comment for most of them, unfortunately, many social media populars and Youtuber analysts unfortunately share nonsense analyses. It is truly a tragicomic situation for them to think that correct analysis has been made by drawing a few lines and touting that they make money in this way. But there is also a fact that we shouldn't take credit for some of the good apples in a crate of bad apples. Some analysts make truly successful analyses, provide information and guide people in the right way.

In today's conditions, where everyone is an expert in a field that they don't understand or know, unfortunately, people who claim to be economists by drawing a few lines, especially on platforms such as social media and YouTube, have emerged. We should never take into account the analyzes of such people and only take into account those who truly comment as economists and analyze in detail.
377  Economy / Economics / Re: In times of war, Gold rises. What about Bitcoin? on: October 16, 2023, 08:19:32 PM
Is it because investors still don't trust Bitcoin as a store of value? Or is it something else? Please enlighten me. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. 🙂

Unfortunately, cryptocurrencies are volatile due to the fact that they don't yet have a very significant volume in financial markets in today's conditions. This causes many companies and large investors to have the perception that cryptocurrencies can't maintain the value of money because they can't provide stabilization. Although there was an increase in the price of gold and a decrease in the price of Bitcoin in the past days, when we check the last 48 hours we can see that there has been a good increase in the price of Bitcoin. Although this situation doesn't directly indicate that many investors see Bitcoin as a store of value, it does indicate that there was a volume flow to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies during the war period and that if the cryptocurrency markets develop further, many people, investors and companies will switch to Bitcoin. It states that it can be accepted as a store of value.
378  Local / Türkçe (Turkish) / Re: Türkiye'den hiç bir başarılı Coin projesi çıkmadı. Nasıl Değiştirebiliriz? on: October 16, 2023, 02:40:20 PM
AVAX var ya? Grin Grin

Bir projenin bir ülkeye bağlı kalmasına gerek yok birçok başarılı Türk geliştirici çeşitli projelerde çalışıyor buna Bitcoin dahil. Sadece Türk malı olsun diyorsanız bunun ne gibi bir artısı olacak? Başarılı projelerin neredeyse tamamı multi kültürel projeler birçok ülkeden geliştiriciler beraber çalışıyor. Bu konuda yerli ve milli ısrarı anlamsız bana göre. Eğer proje kripto alanındaki eksiği gideriyorsa, kullanım alanı varsa başarılı olur bunun tek bir millete bağlı kalmasına gerek yoktur.

Kesinlikle, birçok projeyi incelediğimiz zaman her ne kadar merkezi olarak bir ülkede olduğunu görsek de geliştirici ekibine baktığımız zaman aslında birçok farklı milletten kişilerin yer aldığını görebiliriz. Her ne kadar durum böyle olsa da ve bazı başarılı projelerde Türk isimleri görsek de milletimiz ister istemez tam anlamı ile yerli ve milli bir proje görmek istiyor. Elbette, bu da mümkün bir şey fakat hem başarılı olması hem de uzun vade içerisinde sürdürülebilir olması ciddi anlamda zor. Burada bahsettiğim durum tamamı Türk olan bir ekibin başarılı bir şekilde proje yönetemeyeceği değil elbette. Tam anlamı ile gerek Türk gerekse yabancı farklı bir millet olsun bir proje ekibinin tam anlamı ile aynı milletten olduğunu görebilmek neredeyse imkansız bir şey. Bahsettiğin gibi eğer ki bir proje ciddi anlamda gerekli bir eksikliği gideriyor ise ve başarılı bir şekilde hayatına devam ediyor ise tam anlamı ile herhangi bir milletten olacak şekilde %100 olarak tek bir milletten olmasına gerek de olmayacaktır.
379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: October 16, 2023, 12:34:20 PM
That's true because when they borrow money to gamble, they have no chance of winning from gambling and in fact, they will only experience losses that will cause them to lose all their money. Apart from that, if the person borrowing the money is a close friend but they use it for gambling, maybe later there will be problems in our friendship so they won't be comfortable continuing their relationship with us. It's true that there's no problem if the debt is returned, but in reality, many of our friends don't realize that they already owe us money but haven't paid it back, even just by returning it little by little. This will affect our friendship with him because he borrowed money to get into debt.

They think that by borrowing from their friends, they can freely repay their debt whenever they want. But that's not the case because it is a debt that we must return as soon as possible and keep the debt from going unpaid when it is due. Those who borrow money from me and use it for gambling will be rejected because I don't want to experience any problems with them. I don't want debt problems to interfere with our friendly relationship so I have to refuse it. But I'm still willing to lend him the money if it's to buy his daily necessities.

It would be more accurate to state that they don't have a guarantee to win rather than that they don't have a chance to win. In addition, it is necessary to take into account that a friend who has asked to borrow money to gamble has already lost all their own money in gambling or perhaps the money they borrowed from other friends before us and therefore asks us to borrow money. It isn't difficult to guess that if such a person is given a loan, they will not be able to make a profit therefore they will not be able to repay the amount they borrowed and therefore our friendship will be negatively affected by this situation. While any debt received in this way will never be paid on time and at once there is a very high probability that it will not be paid at all. This will negatively affect the friendship between the borrower and the lender.

Borrowing money from a friend doesn't actually mean that the debt must be repaid at any time. Considering that money has lost its purchasing power especially in today's conditions, it is undoubtedly a fact that even if the debt is collected the lender will also experience losses in purchasing power. For this reason, the lender should never lend money to their friend for gambling in order to preserve the purchasing power of their money and not to take the risk of not getting their money back. Additionally, I think that under no circumstances should a friend be lent money to gamble so that friendship aren't negatively affected.
380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: October 16, 2023, 09:36:14 AM
Money and friends? A slippery slope. Sometimes it seems like lending your favorite outfit to a friend and hoping for no coffee stains. When gambling is involved, the stakes rise. Literally. Lending money for a flutter? Thats like hoping a coin lands on its edge. Million-to-one shot. You understand this dance's complexity now, which is good.

What if your friend wanted to borrow money to gamble on Antarctic penguin races? Its out there, but isnt gambling about that? The wild odds? The thrill? But like you said, no joy is worth sacrificing a friendship. What if collateral is a stuffed penguin from that Antarctic adventure? Story lesson? The ultimate prize in life is keeping friendships light, entertaining, and money-free.

I completely agree, it is quite absurd to lend money to a friend to gamble and expect the loan to be repaid without any problems. The reason for this is that although the connection of friendship will provide comfort to this person in the first stage but this connection will also increase the problem later on. Of course, it may vary from person to person but I would rather experience temporary uneasiness by rejecting a loan offer than ending my friendship with a friend for such a reason.

I don't trust my gambling friends because they can't live up to their word. There is no guarantee of winning or losing in gambling and there is no guarantee if the gambler makes a bet depending on it. I can lend to my friends who can afford to pay back. The thing I achieve is that I don't want to be mean to my friends with money. As money brings people closer, many good relationships are ruined because of it. If a friend of mine is in real danger I will certainly lend him money, I am not willing to pay for gambling. In this concern, my close friends consider me negatively but later they will treat positively.

We think similarly; if a friend of mine is in a difficult situation to meet a basic need I can lend them money without hesitation but if they asks to borrow money to gamble I will definitely reject this offer. Especially if a friend of mine who is addicted to gambling asks for a loan and then says he/she will pay the debt I will not have any trust in him/her. I would never reject a friend who really needs money and not want him/her to be in a bad situation or for him/his to move away from me for this reason but if a friend wants to borrow money to gamble I will undoubtedly refuse and I don't want my friendship to be negatively affected by the debt he cannot pay.
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