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361  Other / Off-topic / Re: Android vs Window phones ....... on: September 15, 2017, 12:59:23 PM
windows phones are still around? i thought those died off as a failed experiment years ago Grin
362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think you are a gambling expert? on: September 15, 2017, 11:09:34 AM
I don't consider myself an expert, but to be honest, who is? An expert would mean that he wins a lot and consistently over the time he gambles. That means that he has some sort of power to really know what the result would be. There are some that can predict the outcome but not consistently. I guess it is just a matter of whether you are good at it or not.
doesn't necessarily have to be based on knowing the outcome really, lets once again take a look at the game of poker as the focal point of this example: one can reasonably identify themselves as an 'expert' in poker, given the fact that it is, in part, a skill based game where the better player can gain an advantage. when any player reaches a certain level in a skill based game, i think its fair to say they could reasonably call themselves an expert, and I don't think anyone would really argue much against that assessment. by being better than the other players at the table, they should be able to win, not necessarily consistently, as it is still a game based on chance, but they should be able to pull ahead in net wins (not necessarily hands, but chips / value of the pot).
363  Other / Meta / Re: Please Unblock My Account | 14 days block | Serious problem on: September 15, 2017, 10:49:41 AM
i think i remember reporting a fair number of your posts in the last few days, i'd bet you were banned for a good reason. just wait it out.
364  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I wonder... on: September 15, 2017, 07:48:25 AM
Just out of curiosity... lately a lot of threads and posts have popped up about what is happening to bitcoins and altcoins, and what one should do and not to do.

My question is, how much of these replies are an educated guesses? and how much of them are just wishful thinking and speculations?

I already have an idea of what most answers are, just wondering what people think.
with the recent price spike that nearly brought bitcoin to 5000 usd, there's been a lot more people interested in bitcoin that have found their way to this forum, and in turn, they bring with them their lack of knowledge in bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general. since they clearly cant be bothered to read anything or think for themselves, they just post here so people will feed them information, usually accompanied by the usual FUD spreaders. id say as of late there's been fewer and fewer thought out explanations, and more of just newbies that are pouring out whatever comes to mind, usually just wishful thinking. the rest is just FUD imo. im hoping itll pass pretty soon, which will probably be soon after the price finally stabilizes a bit.
365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I always lose all my tokens and btc on gambling~ on: September 15, 2017, 07:38:42 AM
My tip for you to not lose all your token in Gambling very easy is not gambling anymore. Keep working hard, you will be payback good. No need to gambling , risk all money that you have.
sadly, 'just stopping' isnt something a lot of people have the self - control to ever put into action. hopefully they'll come to eventually.

I guess, gambling is not actually for me.
I kinda feel bad on all the tokens wasted on gambling but it's kinda my "when I'm bored" hobby.
Do you guys have any tips on how to not to lose all you tokens on gambling?
Gambling is for all of the people, but the purpose of play gambling must just for entertainment and fun, gambling is not for main of source bitcoins, many people played gambling but they were losing for long term in gambling games. If you play gambling always use the a little amount of bitcoins for bet and don't play gambling every day, that is not good for you and your money.
I think it's not for everyone, if you have limited source of income that only enough to sustain your needs or family needs, better not play gambling it will only put you on more problem on bidgetting the money that can be with buying more stuffs needed ny the family.
Right, Gambling is just for people that has excess money in their pocket. Actually it is not advisable to gamble even if you have money because gambling is risky unless you are PRO.
not necessarily, id think it's fair to say that you can gain a clear advantage and EV by being the best player at the table when it comes to poker, and that being said, you don't have to be on the level of professional players, you just have to be better than the players you're up against. of course, it'l still a game of chance, and still carries risk, but you're still going to be at a slight advantage in this sort of scenario, which is all that matters in the end.

I guess, gambling is not actually for me.
I kinda feel bad on all the tokens wasted on gambling but it's kinda my "when I'm bored" hobby.
Do you guys have any tips on how to not to lose all you tokens on gambling?
Don't give up. Every lose you gain a lot of lessons to become a good gambler in the near future. Just be positive always when you gamble and you should have a self control. If you notice that you lost just stop for a meanwhile and get timing.
just staying positive and being stubborn gets you nowhere, only putting effort into something does. if you're going to put effort into learning something actually profitable like poker, so be it, that's fine by all means. bt don't just sit at whatever -EV game you prefer and hope that whatever secret magical method or martingale setting is ever going to change the inevitable.
366  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Reason Behind BTC Price Drop on: September 15, 2017, 07:05:43 AM
Bitcoin traders are so emotional omg. They don't hold on they sell in fear. I can see it rising back to where it was once people wake up and realize the world is not going to end anytime soon and you not going to lose all your money.
not bitcoin traders necessarily, just amateur traders. bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general make it so easy for just about anyone to get into trading, all it takes is some coin, an account on whatever exchange, and the most basic knowledge on trading. that being said, 'anyone' entails  children that may just have an interest in bitcoin, have no knowledge about how international markets, stocks / asset exchanges, or even bitcoin's history with price fluctuations. it's only natural that these people, with so little experience in the crypto world, would panic at every minor or major price dip, having been lured in with perceived promises of endless profit and 'to the moon' or whatever. i guess they'll eventually learn, but then again, even more newcomers will fill their shoes eventually.
367  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could Bitcoin ever replace conventional money? on: September 14, 2017, 03:09:27 PM
Definitely no. Although bitcoin is used as medium of exchange, it will not replace conventional money because that is too wide range and is used since the beginning of time and it is hard to change the things we get used to especially the whole world is too big for that change.
so? the dollar is a medium of trade, what difference does it make that it's bitcoin and a digital means of financial value? paper money wasn't used at the beginning of time either, the egyptians bartered, in the medieval era, the iraqis used bread as a currency, hell even salt was a means of trading in the early days, and even not, people such as the amish communities have no need for paper currency, they barter and live in their own communities as long as they can be self - sustaining. currency is an ever evolving idea, and we've come a long way from using things like bread and salt, to gold and silver, to fiat currencies in our day and age. bitcoin and cryptocurrency is just the next step in the evolution.
368  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SHOULD WE START LOOKING ELSE WHERE on: September 14, 2017, 02:13:23 PM
With all the negative news going around about bitcoin coursing a lot of panic and anxiety....do you this its time to look else where for a guarantee investment?
i mean may be eth doge etc....
fuck off with your FUD, other than government backed bonds that yield very little, there is no such thing in this world as a 'guaranteed investment,' otherwise everyone in this world would be pouring their life savings into whatever this miracle fund is. and even then, there's the negligible risk of the government collapsing, negligible as it may, it's still a present risk. that aside, panic and anxiety are always a 'thing' for people new to ant sort of financial market or exchange, and bitcoin is no exception. we've seen a huge influx of cryptocurrency users lately, most likely a result from the price spike, and all these people have one thing in their heads: endless profit. these are clearly people that have never had a stake in a stock market before, or any sort of even mildly volatile asset for the matter. as they learn, a portion of the panic selling should stop.
369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker v Other casino games online on: September 14, 2017, 01:47:14 PM
Poker requires a lot of skills and strategies before a player wins. Dice is easy to understand and you can just rely on luck and a little strategy (like the martingale).
a losing strategy if you ask me, but to each their own I guess.

It depends on the reason your playing the game, if your looking for a strategy based game, you'll hate dice and love poker, but if you just want to play for fun, easy and enjoy the ups and downs than, you will like dice. If choose one, I will choose dice because it's easy.

Ever dice would not be in my option because we may see the lose more than winnings in dice gambling. I would like to do betting or poker room games to use the strategy and gathered information to use and win continuously but we cannot do that in dice game. If you avoid dice even you will also consider gambling is one type profitable earning method in btc.
it's possible to lose out on any game in gambling, don't know why you would say otherwise. it's also not entirely likely you'll get strings of wins I poker either; it still boils down to being a game of chance, no amount of skill can change the cards you're dealt. conversely, it's also possible to get strings of wins in dice, it's just that you have very little control over that besides your odds / multiplier.

Martingale again, he will need to play and lose more of his money before he figure it out. After so many threads about it, and so many stories about lost money with martingale strategy some people still think that they can make money using it.
Winning and losing are part of the any game, you need to count your loses and expect good wining hand after. I like to play poker more then other games, in poker you play against other people and its more interesting then other games. You need to follow other players and their cards, your cards, you can win with bluff, or you can be strong and others to fold, you need to know how to take more money with luring other players to pay, books are written about poker and how to play it.
It is unfortunate but some people are only going to learn once they get burned and even then, there are people that after losing at a casino game using martingale think that something can change if they have a bigger bankroll or if they play in another casino.
the thing is though, some of these people never learn. they will never accept the fact that their loss is a statistical probability, and continue to dwell in the mindset that this 'amazing new setting' will never fail or something. of course, these are probably the same people you see on the forum spamming scam accusations against casinos that they 'rig their rolls' or something anyways.

POKER

Dice is a suckers game, however, for those with extremely large bankrolls (like the owners of other dice sites), it could generate small profits at high risk. Poker is the game to play if you want to reduce the risk to your bankroll ---> You have far greater control of your risk to reward ratio when you are presented with more information from which you can make more profitable decisions.
not really, for the most part, the potential to profit is mostly proportional to the risk involved, save for the effect of the house edge. it's only perceived the way you describe it because people are stupid and continue to play and, eventually, lose. poker does not however, as you put it, reduce the risk at all, it's still a game of fair chance. the only control you have over the game is how you play in order to deceive and read the other players at the table to gain a higher chance to win the hand.
370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I always lose all my tokens and btc on gambling~ on: September 14, 2017, 01:27:51 PM
If always lose, its rational is why still continue to gamble? No need to throw money in the air just to follow passions. There are still many more useful things we can do than give money to house.
most of the gamblers will thinking irrational and everytime they lost they will trying to discover new ways how to recover their losses so that's why they will always coming back when they're lost so indeed this is just like dumb acts that spend the money with nothing but for those who had addicted will never thinking wise and even they will ruin theirself
it's all a huge vicious cycle, addicts just lose money and keep a one - track mind on how to recover their losses, never even stopping to think that it might be a better idea to cut their losses and just stop, which is probably better for them in the long run anyways. but then again, it might just be that because they're addicts that they can only turn to further gambling to recover for their mistakes... which resulted from, thats right, gambling. personally, i think if it goes this far, there's a more fundamental flaw that goes beyond just their gambling; it's plain self destructive behavior to just keep going in the red like this, its just blatantly ignorant for them to be aware of their losses, yet continually pour their money and assets into the system. it socks me how far removed from reality one's mind has to be to accept this happening to themselves.
371  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC price is crashed again on: September 14, 2017, 01:08:20 PM
The news are finally official,

to be fair the "news" was that China has banned bitcoin which has never been true. they have closed exchanges which have been doing illegal stuff as earlier this year we clearly saw it.
they tried regulating them but apparently they have failed to do so. they probably try to do more regulation of exchanges though.

and also they have never said trading bitcoin is banned or anything.
if that's the case, then bitcoin has a pretty good outlook for the future in china; if the chinese government does indeed implement stringent policies on cryptocurrency exchange regulation in the future, that only serves to further the security of cryptocurrency trading in that economy, and we could be looking at a pretty solid price spike as a result in the future.
to be honest though, im getting pretty sick of all this price fluctuation resulting from news out of china, i was sure bitcoin would rise again from 3800 usd after yesterday's events, but looks like im down a few bucks from what i bought yesterday. no worries though, i've full faith it'll recover in no time. still, it's tanked to 3500 usd at the time of this post, thats still shy of 10% but a pretty big impact nonetheless.
372  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why compare BTC to USD? on: September 14, 2017, 11:00:31 AM
When people talk about Bitcoin price, they usually refer to its price expressed in dollars. I really don't understand why...

US Dollar is going down in price, US economy is collapsing. There are many other countries which has more Bitcoin users, like Russia, China, Japan, Philippines and the whole Eurozone. Even ICOs are forbidden in the USA. It's not a so Bitcoin-friendly country, its national currency is not so strong. So why price Bitcoin in $?

There could be many other more appropriate currencies like EUR, CNY or RUB...

SIMPLY BECAUSE DOLLAR IS THE GLOBAL CURRENCY.

They might have banned ICOs for as they say Customer protection but not Bitcoin. USA is Bitcoin-friendly country. Moreover, these two facts doesn't matter at all because Dollar plays a dominant role in international trade and finance as both a store of value and a medium of exchange. Therefor, it will be considered when there is something International. Bitcoin being international need to be expressed in Dollars. Most of the countries have their own exchanges and sometimes price deviates nationally regardless of international price.
personally, i think its a bit of a stretch to call it a global currency, i would liken it more to the global standard of currency if anything; as much as the dollar is accepted worldwide, it's not accepted in a grand majority of business establishments; i can't just go out to the middle of china or something and expect to be able to pay with dollars. however, in the global markets, exchange rates are commonly shown in whatever currency to the dollar (ex, 110 japanese yen to the dollar). however, wallets, exchanges, and bitcoin price trackers commonly have the option to show the price of bitcoin on the euro, pound, and other major currencies. maybe it just comes down to people being used to the relative value of the dollar, doesn't really matter in my opinion.
373  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will rise up or fall down? on: September 14, 2017, 07:48:54 AM
What do you think? China banned BTC? And btc price goes to 4,069$ today Smiley
You think to sell or it can rise up again, some rumors said that btc will fall down to 2000$

I think to fall to the price of $ 2000 certainly this will not happen, although China has an influence on bitcoin price movement, but bitcoin is growing not only in China but in many countries there are bitcoin users, I am still optimistic that bitcoin prices will rise again until the end of this year .
no it wont, its all baseless speculation and FUD that lead people to actually believe something like this. granted, it has happened before during the mtgox fiasco years back, little tidbits of news like this will never be enough to cause bitcoin to plummet like it did back then.

Most probably BTC is more dumping now already falling down below $4000 because china is declared ICO ban but i don' believe this news.I think his is main reason BTC price is reduces.Keep patience.
personally, i don't think so. these recent price fluctuations caused by the china / jp morgan ceo news could definitely contribute to the price normalization, but if it weren't for these events, i think bitcoin would've definitely crossed the 5000 usd threshold with nothing coming up to stop it. for now though, i think the price will stabilize given the events for a short while, before some event sets it off into a pump again.
374  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Little panics like this are good on: September 14, 2017, 07:16:50 AM
I agree, we need to clean the scene from speculators who are pumping the price for their own profits. They are usually the first people running at the slightest bump in the road. They seldom lose any profits, because they buy low and trigger bots to sell, when the price reach a specific threshold.

After this cleansing process, you are left with the real Hodlers and pure Bitcoiners. ^smile^
wrong, the cleansing process will never stop. as long as there is money involved, people will always be out to make a profit, and manipulating prices / market value through FUD , such as what we are seeing happen in the bitcoin scene as of late (although not necessarily FUD), is one of the more common methods in which markets are manipulated, allowing those manipulators, as well as bystander users, to profit off of fluctuations. of course, this cycle could be stopped, but only under one condition; if bitcoin became the universal standard of monetary value, ie, 1 btc = 1 btc. not the best way to phrase it, but as it is, the value of bitcoin is based on its value relative to the world's currencies, and thus, is vulnerable to market manipulation. assert it as the universal standard, and people will look elsewhere.
375  Economy / Lending / Re: Looking for a 0.004 BTC loan on: September 14, 2017, 02:17:06 AM
glad you found your loan, sorry i went offline, it was 2 am where i'm at.
376  Economy / Reputation / Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? on: September 13, 2017, 02:36:01 PM
Let me get this straight,the accused is sending  free money to everyone ? I read the bold part that says "Please do not refund",I don't use paypal and don't know how it works but giving free money does seem suspicious to me.I don't know money laundering defines the case at it's best.
i think this may have just been onf off case involving the pharmacist, but then again, I could be wrong. the main problem is that the user is extremely insistent on paypal trades and going as far as to force them on people, as was in this case here. in my instance, i informed the user that I did not need a bitcoin -> paypal trade any longer, in reference to a thread I put up on the currency exchange that same day. However, even after being informed that i did not need a trade, gameristo either did not understand what 'no' meant or decided to attempt to push a deal onto me, asking for my paypal email address and saying 'ill send first, you dont even have to send me bitcoin for a few days.' other than the fact that this reeks of trust farming, it's just shady, given that he's using multiple paypal accounts and going as far as to force a deal onto someone. the fact that he's willing to just send money without any promise or deal for compensation, along with his using of multiple accounts, leads me to believe these paypal accounts may be stolen / hacked, and they might just be looking for a quick cashout.
I have a concern about the multiple PayPal accounts and why anyone in their right mind would send PP funds without any agreement being made beforehand.
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The whole situation is bizarre.
377  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you fall for this FUD you deserve a bullet to the brain. on: September 13, 2017, 01:54:25 PM
Im sense a lot of anger in you, my young padawan  Cheesy

Sell the BTC for FIAT fast, and rebuy it, when BTC hits 1000$ in a months time  Kiss
the price drop won't last a month, let alone a week. you really overestimate to what length people will care about something. this'll blow over in 3, maybe 4 days tops before the price starts to recover.

They deserve to loose their money. I'm happy to buy their coin with low prices.
its a shame though, a good portion of the people panic selling their coins are probably people that got into bitcoin and cryptocurrencies just recently after the huge price spike, and are thinking that they need to minimize their losses while they still can. had they known better, they couldve just weathered the storm, sure, but i guess at best itll be a nice learning experience on the resiliency of bitcoin for them.

I believe these news are just manipulating the flow of BTC value. These FUD that affects unfortunately the value of BTC this past few weeks. China has big whales of BTC holders in their country. While JP morgan CEO has a lot on its plate that he can affect other afraid investors too. This shall past too. We need to keep holding BTC and dont be affected of this FUD.
honestly its not impossible, i honestly wouldnt be surprised if it all came down to manipulating the markets to make a real quick profit.
378  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is happening again? The market is looking all red! on: September 13, 2017, 10:16:16 AM
Hello guys,

What is really happening the market all red?

Woke up this morning with my full confidence that market will continue to recover but it didn't!

Can someone explain to me what is really going on because the market is not recovering, instead going to the hell again, more deeper!

Thank you.  
it hasn't even been 48 hours, stop panicking. also, it dropped double of what it has so far when the news broke that china banned ICO's within their jurisdiction. I'm guessing that along with the news breaking of the JP morgan & chase bank's CEO's opinion on bitcoin coming out, people are starting to panic sell, and the price tanking only served to amplify the effect. if anything, it's a great opportunity to snatch up some cheaper bitcoin, i've full faith that the price will normalize a bit again, as it did not even a week after the news with china first broke.

Same with you, I'm also expecting a recovery of price this morning but my prediction failed me for many times this week. But I'm still not backing down by holding what has left in my wallet for this kind of uncertainty and bad publicity. I can still handle this rate of pressures but until at what level below 3000$? I can't tell.
that would be a near 33% price drop, i dont think the recent events are enough to destroy bitcoin that much, i think it would take a chain of unfortunate events for bitcoin to fall that far in the near foreseeable future. as for me, when the price starts stabilizing, ill buy some at my convenience and make a few easy bucks.
379  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Cash is better than Bitcoin. on: September 13, 2017, 08:23:38 AM
As bitcoin is a new technology, it is still a fresh concept to most of us. We don't know more about it yet, so we couldn't fully put our full confidence on it as well as to other cryptocurrencies existing in the market. Cash is better than bitcoin because we can hold it, we can touch it and we can spend it without going through the hassle of using our mobile phones and connecting to the internet. Most of all, we are already used to cash than bitcoin.
I don't really think your argument of fiat money being tangible and being able to be used offline is really a strong argument in this case; most of the world's money in the current day and age isn't physical, it's all digital. in any case, i rarely find myself using cash for my purchases these days, i mostly use digital payment processors, or a credit / debit card. my cards, paypal, bank transfers, all would not work without some sort of connection, and i would think its fair to say that this applies to most other people as well. in any case, cash could be less secure than bitcoin; anyone can walk off with your bills that you left lying around accidentally, but the same couldnt really be said of bitcoin.

for me, Bitcoin is better than Cash because of its high price value and profitability.
cash is used only for the conventional activities but Bitcoin is being used for saving and investment purpose. it has been established as a most profitable platform for doing a trade. so in terms of profit cash is not better than Bitcoin.
Many people do not know bitcoin they don't also know any crypto currency. Therefore they consider it as scam and I don't blame them. They need information and education. If they are old enough it's difficult to make them change the usual way they transact, that is fiat money. It is unrealistic to believe that all people will accept it as payment system.
that, and they need to be informed that bitcoin isnt just used by criminals and gangs; from multiple people i've talked to that have had an awareness of bitcoin, they've had a negative perception of it from all the silk road / internet ransom / blackmail cases that surface in mainstream news. if we could get past that and inform them on how it could be the beginning of a financial revolution, i think we could see some real headway on widespread adoption.
380  Economy / Reputation / Re: Gameristo..what are you doing, bro? on: September 12, 2017, 11:07:04 PM
he's sent me messages as well, even after explicitly stating that I didn't need a trade. I've left a screenshot as reference to a rating on his profile of the message he sent me if you care to see. seems like he does this with everybody though, judging from the ratings on his profile.
also for screenshots, try out sharex, makes it real simple and uploads them to imgur for you as well.
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