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361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 09, 2019, 09:38:18 AM
Is there any timeline when all existing exchanges will support the mainnet. I have new tokens but unable to trade them anywhere so if there is plan about this please share the details.

Hello,

There is no timeline since it's not up to us to decide when that would happen. We are open to provide technical support to any exchange willing to support the Mainnet AE token. Several new exchanges have supported the Mainnet token over the last week and we hope even more will come on board soon.

You can check all the exchanges that currently support the Mainnet token HERE. We update the list regularly.

Best regards,
The AE Team
362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 09, 2019, 08:32:56 AM
Hello everyone,

Just a general reminder about the 2 Mining Guides Bounties!

The deadline is in 2 days - May 10th, so hurry up and win a reward in AE tokens Smiley

Find all the details and requirements HERE.

Best regards,
The AE Team
will fortuna or the aeternity hard fork create a second coin???

Hey, no, no second coin will be created by the hard fork.

Best,
The AE Team
363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 08, 2019, 02:23:28 PM
Hello everyone,

Just a general reminder about the 2 Mining Guides Bounties!

The deadline is in 2 days - May 10th, so hurry up and win a reward in AE tokens Smiley

Find all the details and requirements HERE.

Best regards,
The AE Team
364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 08, 2019, 01:13:58 PM

If we follow your suggestion, the dev projects would compete between themselves for funding, right? When a developer introduces a project, they will have to defend what/why/how they want to create. I personally don't believe that the whole community would be prepared enough technically to judge what should be implemented and how and what is more urgent (I don't mean to offend anyone, many people in the crypto space are not devs). Do you?


There is no big competition among BIPs and EIPs. Once again, you just confirmed that you are going to decide it all by yourself. There is nothing left to talk about IMO.

AE is not a venture chain, if somebody want to write an app for it it does not mean they must be paid out of the block reward at all. It must be commercial project, a DEX or craptokitties or something else. Could be even ICO scam just like AE on ethereum. There could be many other projects on AE with their own funding model. And none of them must be paid by taxpayers (I presume you are mature enough to understand that block cut is literally a taxation model).

App ecosystem for a blockchain project must be a natural process of the grow, you provide base system (epoch) and some basic apps like wallets. The rest will either appear organically or never appear at all.

Well, it seems you pretty much CEO happy and you want free money so you will manage them on your sole discretion. Seriously, after reading this I see no reason to continue this dialog.

The BRI won't be spent on ępps, but on protocol development solely. We indicated that in the initial announcement blog post.

Best,
The AE Team

365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 08, 2019, 12:32:18 PM

- This would not be a stake. We confirmed during the AMA session we organized on Monday that these funds are to be spent on development projects, and not to be staked.
- It is not a false narrative - if such a vote should be organized for each separate development project before the work could start, that would delay the workflow significantly. We got feedback by the community that future votes should have longer voting periods, so the whole process will take even more time.
- We do have funding, this is not the goal of this vote (as we said several times already). We just want to stay ahead and ensure the project's sustainability for the years to come.
- You will be able to propose other votes very soon and you can also propose a block reward cut.

Best,
The AE Team

By saying stake I mean a pile of cash literally, not referring to PoS or "governance" here. Vote per milestone is not slow, anyone can introduce a project, split on milestones and let users fulfil requirements.  Every sound project must do that any way, then few weeks for well planned project is not an issue. There is no even need for governance and long voting process, people read the paper and send money to smart contract. Examine dash and monero funding proposals.

I already wrote many times you are asking money to spend on development on your sole discretion it means there is no obligations to spend it carefully and it leads to corruption.

Block reward governance is retarded. It must be sealed and sound, but you screwed whole emission because you had a hidden secret plan to take a cut from it. You already damaged AE value and future by rolling out such a sneaky strategy.

If we follow your suggestion, the dev projects would compete between themselves for funding, right? When a developer introduces a project, they will have to defend what/why/how they want to create. I personally don't believe that the whole community would be prepared enough technically to judge what should be implemented and how and what is more urgent (I don't mean to offend anyone, many people in the crypto space are not devs). Do you?

366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 08, 2019, 12:14:15 PM

Small correction, previously I wrote they have raised 250,000,000 but it was a mistake, $25,000,000 actually. My bad, but it changes nothing. Still huge money stake, it's enough to pay for development for years to come if you don't throw money left and right on luxury hotels and private jets.

If you have any proofs that the team travel in private jets or stay in luxury hotels or throw money away for that matter, please provide them here.
367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 08, 2019, 12:12:47 PM
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Hilarious joke by office manager. Now tell me why you need a stake NOW? Because you first introduced sick inflation and want to take a cut of it as soon as possible before any significant decline in block reward. You think people here are retarded (mostly true) and this cut will be not noticeable because nobody spend money directly, I would say that in order to make development process sound and rational people must pay real money out of the pocket to support project. That's why people must vote per milestone, and stop bullshitting about it being "slow". It's a false narrative.

I propose another voting, reduce block reward before AE value hits the dust and introduce tail emission.

You said you have got funding for years to come, well, there is a time to develop a sound funding system and stop pushing that irresponsible taxation model which gives your team millions of dollars on your sole discretion. You said everything will be used for development? What stops you from writing a paycheque saying $1,000,000 for fixing a typo in a code comment? Nothing.


- This would not be a stake. We confirmed during the AMA session we organized on Monday that these funds are to be spent on development projects, and not to be staked.
- It is not a false narrative - if such a vote should be organized for each separate development project before the work could start, that would delay the workflow significantly. We got feedback by the community that future votes should have longer voting periods, so the whole process will take even more time.
- We do have funding, this is not the goal of this vote (as we said several times already). We just want to stay ahead and ensure the project's sustainability for the years to come.
- You will be able to propose other votes very soon and you can also propose a block reward cut.

Best,
The AE Team
368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 08, 2019, 10:55:54 AM
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You have got hundreds of millions in funding and almost 20% of tokens in existence, why you need another stake NOW?. Your past achievements does not matter at all. Normal governance model I introduced is sound and rational. The model you want is the end of governance, a money grab. Once you are getting a cut after this poll you no longer need any governance. That poll is a fraud.

"Your past achievements does not matter at all." If you really believe that, you understand nothing about blockchain development. This is just the first vote, there will be more. We'll consider it to be a successful governance model if as many people as possible vote.

Best,
The AE Team
369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 08, 2019, 09:26:19 AM

The current vote concerns the so-called Block Reward Initiative (BRI), i.e. the community is voting on whether to give between 0% and 20% of mining revenue to developers. Those funds will go entirely to development and the goal of this vote is to guarantee the sustainability and continuous development of the ęternity blockchain.


No guarantees since they have no obligation of reporting expenses, no way for participants to control on what they are going to spend funds and how careful they are going to spend. If you give them this cut they literally free to write a hefty paycheque to themselves just like if officials will decide how much bonuses they need for "serving and protecting" taxpayers. If you have hefty continuous money flow you don't take care of how wasteful your expenses are, you just spend.

Instead of giving away funds to this team on their sole discretion we must push them to introduce a process similar to Monero funding system.
Those who want to do development must write a proposal and community will vote for it, pledge money into a smart contract and after each milestone completion remit money by approving payment. It gives a control to the community over money flows.

Up until now, the ęternity team has respected all the commitments it made to the community, as long as they were achievable in the given circumstances. We said it several times and we'll say it again - none of those funds will go to the non-dev team. They will be solely dedicated to the continuous development of the project.

One more thing - if the community should vote on every dev project before releasing the money, that would delay the process too much.

Best,
The AE Team
370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 08, 2019, 08:50:37 AM
Hey everyone,

Over the last couple of weeks, ęternity's core dev team have been busy preparing for the first on-chain vote. They set up the mechanism that allows splitting the block reward recipients as part of the BRI!

Plus, they have finished the implementation of the generalized accounts and have continued working on the Virtual Machine and state channels.

Check the latest dev update below:

GENERALIZED ACCOUNTS, STATE CHANNELS AND THE BLOCK REWARD INITIATIVE

Best regards,
The AE Team
371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 08, 2019, 08:39:19 AM
Guys,

What are we voting on here exactly?

I cant find any info

1. How to actually Vote.
2. What we are voting on.


1- Please provide step by step guide no how to vote.
2- Explain it to me, like im 5. What the vote is for.


Thank you.

PS: From what i see in above link, when you vote, you disclose your $AE balance?  Because, thats, clearly, not a good idea for anyone holding large amount.  Seems like a good way to attract hackers.   The balance should be hidden, this alone would make me not Vote.

Hello,

The current vote concerns the so-called Block Reward Initiative (BRI), i.e. the community is voting on whether to give between 0% and 20% of mining revenue to developers. Those funds will go entirely to development and the goal of this vote is to guarantee the sustainability and continuous development of the ęternity blockchain. You can find the blog post announcing the BRI HERE.

You can check the discussion on the matter in the Forum , including video guides on how to vote - find them in this playlist.

Your AE balance is linked to the weight of your vote - the more AE tokens you hold, the more your vote weighs.

Best regards,
The AE Team
372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Vote AGAINST BRI on: May 07, 2019, 05:23:23 PM
Hey all,

Don't forget today is the last day of Phase 2 of AE Token migration.

Transfer your ERC20 tokens to be able to play around with AE features.

Best,
The AE Team
373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Vote AGAINST BRI on: May 07, 2019, 05:22:35 PM

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Maybe happy bagholders can confirm your point? It went from 60K sat. to 8K.

My proposal is simple, you remove current poll entirely and start full blown hype promotion in TRON scam style.

Regarding my language, I treat every shitcoin/ICO (including bitcoin) as a junk and scam, all people involved into craptocurrency development I treat as criminals and human trash, even those who have bought it are searching for a greater fool so also must be treated as co-criminals (including even myself lol) so don't expect me to use soft language when I am writing to people of such category.

We don't expect you to be soft, but we expect you to be civil. This community has rules against profanity, swearing and insults. So, please stop offending everyone including yourself.

Best,
The AE Team
374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Vote AGAINST BRI on: May 07, 2019, 01:19:49 PM
That is quite misleading of you - ęternity has no power over the price of the AE token.
And no one can predict how this vote will affect the price (if it affects it at all).

LMAO. you have a lot of power over the price, you set a sick block reward, now you want up to 20% of this insanely high block reward to your pocket. If that behaviour does not affect price of the token you are either a moron or a liar which under current circumstances also affect the price of the token.

Thank you for this beautiful language, but the AE token's price has been around Top 50 for a while and was not seriously affected by the size of the block reward.
The block reward served other arguments, as I said already - you are free to propose a change.
375  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Vote AGAINST BRI on: May 07, 2019, 11:59:06 AM
Just a friendly reminder here, if you vote pro BRI your voice is against future value of your own bag of AE.

They must pump their own bags and spend carefully, if they are getting block cut they will be happy with any more or less reasonable value of AE which is order of magnitude lower than current AE price.

Don't give them block cut or they will never pump AE.

Any further "governance" outcome will be pretty predictable once you give them block cut.

That is quite misleading of you - ęternity has no power over the price of the AE token.
And no one can predict how this vote will affect the price (if it affects it at all).

Best,
The AE Team
376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 07, 2019, 10:41:49 AM
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Maybe they can finally make a feature rich block explorer where users can check all in/out transactions per address lol.

You can use the community-run explorer aeknow.org - the voting results could be followed HERE.

Best,
The AE Team
377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 07, 2019, 10:34:57 AM

1. The developers engaged in the ęternity project have more than 300 years of cumulative experience.

Of Big Data snake oil and other bullshit. Literally every project erlang solutions have been working on or providing support is dead and not profitable, of course they all welcome your well funded new age bullshit called blockchain with both hands lol. You are even busy promoting their programming language, something that I don't wanna see happening, it's just stupid as Blockstream promoting c++ and Qt lol.

Please refrain from unchecked and literally false statements - 90% of Internet traffic is going through Erlang-controlled nodes. Erlang is an essential programming language and we are proud ęternity is using it.
378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 07, 2019, 09:11:52 AM
When I will be able to vote against BRI using base-app?

You can do it right away - we just shared the video guides Smiley
379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 07, 2019, 09:10:22 AM
Hello everyone,

Today marks the beginning of the first-ever on-chain vote on ęternity!

Please find video tutorials on how to vote using the hybrid voting ępp here:

VIDEO GUIDES ON HOW TO USE HYBRID VOTING ĘPP

No matter whether you have ERC20 AE tokens, Mainnet AE Tokens or you have just migrated your tokens in Phase 2, you can vote  Smiley

Tell us if you have any issues  Smiley

Best regards,
The AE Team
380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ęternity blockchain ∞ AE TOKEN ∞ [PoW & PoS | Oracles | Smart Contracts] on: May 07, 2019, 08:57:22 AM
6. We do not pay for exchange listings, that is our policy.

Good policy bc only retarded scam bucket shops require money explicitly. But you need money for kickbacks to get it listed on Bittrex for example, or spend money for promotion campaigns so thousands of new bagholders will push exchanges like bittrex and poloniex to list AE.

We are committed to working without giving kickbacks Smiley
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