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3601  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 23, 2018, 05:04:46 AM
If you get the "Sorry, this IP address has been blocked." message it means you have triggered our abuse detections systems. They think that the way you use the faucet indicates you may be either using a bot or multi-accounting so either your account and/or IP has been blocked.

3602  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 22, 2018, 02:33:14 PM
Still,  I want to know how its SO EASY to fake a BTC transaction.  The deposits are just as much a transaction as a withdrawal and they are just as visible.

Listen.


You are so dumb. A withdrawal doesn't mean you didn't just deposit it to withdraw it.

Where did I say it was easy to fake a transaction?

Giving a link to block explorer showing a transaction doesn't prove your snake oil system makes money.

Even if you did win a bit it doesn't mean that wasn't down to luck.

You're like a broken record just repeating the same shit.
3603  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 22, 2018, 02:14:53 PM
Wow,  and you call yourself a long time BTC guy yet you say it's "easily faked".  Now THIS I gotta hear!!  Please,  enlighten us on how to fake BTC transactions!  So I can decide on whether or not I need to dump every satoshi I have right now since such a fakery method would destroy BTC's credibility.

You are so dumb. A withdrawal doesn't mean you didn't just deposit it to withdraw it.

Verify don't trust. I don't trust anything you say.
3604  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 22, 2018, 02:09:16 PM
are some sort of smoke and mirrors trickery

It could easily be.

Or you might just be getting lucky. That's how gambling really works. Some people get lucky and win. Systems don't help.
3605  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 22, 2018, 01:56:16 PM
User 'THJ' is a newbie, but your options are set such that you cannot receive PMs from newbies. Therefore, you cannot send PMs to newbies, either.

My PMs are open to Newbies.

general , who are u?

Have a look at my trust page and click the link to see untrusted feedback.

User wetsuit (the OP of this thread and owner of freebitco.in) has left his endorsement there.
3606  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 22, 2018, 11:04:43 AM
i did withdraw few a week ago from freebtc and i didn't get that btc

Please PM me the details in the confirmation email we would have sent you. If you have 2fa on and email notifications off then the tx id from your personal stats page will do.
3607  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 22, 2018, 06:10:33 AM
You have a right to raise your concerns, if you spot something that might cause problems in the future. One thing about Wetsuit is this, if there are concerns raised, he or she will address those concerns. Wetsuit will either explain it in detail or he will improve the system.

I've just heard from wetsuit and I've asked him to have a look at this. My personal view and understanding is that sort of manipulation wouldn't work because there's a nonce on the client side. The argument that the server seed could be changed is negated by the fact you could easily implement a script that checked that before and after each roll. I'm sure there are enough sceptics out that have tried to catch sites out and have failed because they don't actually cheat. It really wouldn't be worth it, the site's reputation is worth far more than any individual bet.
3608  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 22, 2018, 04:13:49 AM
it's a dead discussion mate , you can't change someone's mind when he thinks that he can beat the casino
best thing to do is to just notify the newbies that come by here that there is no bot or script can make money playing casino games

But, but.... he's declared himself the winner of the debate twice already so it must be true.  Roll Eyes

I've seen a lot of these idiots come and go over the years but this one's level of self-delusion and arrogance is right up there at the top.
3609  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 22, 2018, 03:29:58 AM
Now, here is the basic idea on how it should be implemented:

I'll give you the same answer I gave Thirdspace:

if I'm not mistaken, early primedice also change seed on every roll but not anymore
now afaik primedice and just-dice only change server seed on (player) demand

To be honest I think there might be good reasons that the other sites haven't changed but I'm not really an expert in that field. It could be more about a matter of opinion as to which system is fairer. If you're concerned I'd suggest PMing wetsuit and having a chat about it. I know he hasn't logged on to the forum for a while, he's been away but should be back very soon. I think me getting in the middle of the debate would probably only confuse things.


I know he's going to start work on the rebrand soon which involves recoding the whole site from the ground up. That probably makes it a good time to discuss this. I have no idea why you feel the need to hide your identity but I really don't think you need to. We've got problem discussing suggested improvements.
3610  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 22, 2018, 03:24:50 AM
i didn't get some a week withdrawal (((

I have no idea what you mean. Would you care to elaborate?



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It means an email we sent you bounced back as undeliverable.
3611  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 09:39:28 PM
I had to go out so I didn't have time to deal with that brain fart of a previous post of yours. This conversation is about online dice betting and you use card counting as an example. If a deck isn't shuffled then the outcome isn't random so skill gives an advantage. It isn't relevant to this scenario in any way.

I have already told you this falls outside of my job description. If you weren't a wet behind the ears n00b with no clue you would know that I've been challenging people about their lack of understanding of probability and mathematics for 5 years here and only working for freebitco.in for under 2 months.

You like to leave links,  so here is one that you should check out Smiley 

https://store.blockstream.com/product/dont-trust-verify-tshirt/

I'm an oldskool Bitcoiner so of course, the motto means something. Pretty crap looking T-Shirts though. That's why I don't trust your pony live stream. It doesn't verify anything. You could have already blown up a dozen accounts over the last year and just opened new ones. Explain what the system does and someone can verify the mathematics and probabilities.

I know you are a bit lacking in understanding but I've thought of an even easier way to explain the disadvantage of making more bets that even you might be able to understand (although I'm not hopeful).

For any given betting system there is a sequence of results that will result in them hitting their maximum loss. A small sample size is less likely to contain that sequence than a large sample. Surely even the village idiot can work that out, can't you?

Download it and try it the fools says.  Roll Eyes Yeah because a sample size of one really verifies it. Not to mention, I'm not dumb enough to install software of unknown provenance.
3612  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 21, 2018, 04:40:29 PM
if I'm not mistaken, early primedice also change seed on every roll but not anymore
now afaik primedice and just-dice only change server seed on (player) demand

To be honest I think there might be good reasons that the other sites haven't changed but I'm not really an expert in that field. It could be more about a matter of opinion as to which system is fairer. If you're concerned I'd suggest PMing wetsuit and having a chat about it. I know he hasn't logged on to the forum for a while, he's been away but should be back very soon. I think me getting in the middle of the debate would probably only confuse things.
3613  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 04:34:12 PM
It is amusing to beat you up in debate though.

I've done my best but arguing with a delusional fool is pointless.
3614  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 04:04:08 PM
blah blah blah

So you really believe you're the first person in history to invent a betting system that can defeat a house edge over a large sample size of bets. I've done my best but arguing with a delusional fool is pointless.

I'll leave this here again but I doubt it will sink to you.

https://steemit.com/gambling/@seuntjie/why-botting-doesn-t-work-at-casinos
3615  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 03:51:03 PM
Haha the coin and environments are not "keeping score".  It doesnt care how many times you've flipped.  The likelyhood (or more correctly probability) is STILL 50/50.

No, that's the probability that the result will be the expected value, ie. that you lost to the house edge. I only used the coin flip to explain in simple terms what convergence is in statistics because you don't seem to understand.
3616  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 03:47:18 PM
Convergence is BS.

Ok, let's do it simply by going back to the coin flip.

If you flip a coin twice then there is a high probability that the result will deviate from the expected 50/50.

If you flip 10 times then the probability of 5 tails and 5 heads is higher than it was of 1 and 1.

If you flip 100 the probability gets closer to 50/50

If you flip 1 million times the variance from 50/50 will be very small.


What is so difficult to understand about that.

Download https://bot.seuntjie.com/ and use the stats windows and you can watch it in action. The longer you leave it running there nearer luck gets to 100%
3617  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 03:27:16 PM
Thats not true,  the longer you bet the higher the convergence?  No.  The odds are the same no matter how many times you've flipped the coin.

Oh dear. http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Stochastic_convergence

Quote
Convergence in probability
The basic idea is that the probability of an "unusual" outcome becomes smaller and smaller as the sequence progresses.
3618  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 02:54:40 PM
So you're saying that there is absolutely NO possible way to win.  Right.  That's your stance?

No, I said many times before that making more bets will make the end result converge towards the expected value. The best way to win is to make as few bets as possible and get a higher variance of luck. If that luck is in your favour then you'll win.

That's something this guy understood. https://www.crypto-games.net/player/Correy972
3619  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 02:43:45 PM
It could come immediately?  Go ahead and prove it then.  It seems my live stream is clearly incapable of producing such results.  The likelyhood of it happening on the 1st roll is so stupidly low its not even worth considering.  For the same reason that expecting to win 4750x (going back to the 4750x claim thats so prominently displayed right on the Freebitco homepage) on the first roll is stupid.

You can't understand the first thing about probability to say that. However improbable a result is it still could happen the first time you try it. Like someone I know won their very first 9920x bet on another site.

Thinking that playing low odds makes it 'possible to push that inevitable loss into the future' is either deluded or just snake oil. I really can't tell which it is with you.

If you can fool people into using this then so be it but having a sensible debate with someone that comes out that nonsense isn't possible.
3620  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 02:30:59 PM
Apparently you think it's not even possible to push that inevitable loss into the future and I've been doing nothing but prove you absolutely wrong this entire time.

It is impossible you fool. You have no control over when the random losing streak comes. It could happen immediately.

You are not giving any advantage and anyone using this thing will lose.
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