If this is the video of the speech from Bitcoin conference that started this news and that you are referring to, I must say that I agree with you. Madeira president didn't say anything about bitcoin becoming legal tender so I have no clue how could someone get that impression. Unless he said more things that are not in that YouTube video.

According to this article the Russian guy who started this rumour  confirmed that it's been a joke. Its more rule than exception, that some nonsense shared on social media goes viral, and even the choice of the country tell us that this has been a joke. I do agree though that. Agree with the rest of the stuff though.


Vatican will never do that because Italy takes care of that stuff from them but even if they did, number of Catholics in Russia wouldn't be any deciding factor.

Good to hear that you are taking care of bounty hunters, but have you ever thought about people who might invest in this scam because of you and all those bounty hunters that joined the bounty campaign?


Whether whitepaper is plagiarized or not is completely irrelevant in this case and if I stumbled upon your thread sooner I would tag you just for advertising an obvious scam. One look at the Ukan website and it's obvious that this is nothing but a cheap attempt to profit from the ongoing situation in Ukraine and nothing else. Can you honestly believe that a completely anonymous team will use the funds raised in order to help the people of Ukraine? I see that you have been in crypto for a while so surely you are not that naive.


I wanted to comment earlier that even a reputable and experienced manager may miss plagiarized whitepaper, but to completely ignore the warning is something entirely different and shows that this was not an exception but their M.O.

@Dancing_Coin I don't know whether you or someone else from OWNR wallet team hired these thread bumpers that are faking the interest in your thread, but it ain't cool at all. These bumping services usually don't care who they promote, so the same accounts that promoted scams are also "working" working in your thread too. Take for example Iminingpro that recently left the comment here; that account is promoting several other shady projects and on top of that I tagged him for ponzi promotion.

You may say that you have nothing to do with these accounts, but they don't go around the forum and write in the same thread or promote same projects for free. If you want more proof, check accounts like i8v8i and Lunafox that are already tagged for being a part of sock puppet group of the accounts, and many more in this thread that are just waiting to be tagged for the same thing.

If you can't afford signature campaign or don't want to have one, it's not the solution to hire bunch of scam shillers like you did and it will have the opposite effect from the one you hoped for.

There already is a Coinbase card that is available outside of US for the last few years as couple of my IRL friends have and from what I heard they are satisfied with it, even though that card is not as good as the new one. I just don't know where else is available, other than EU and few other European countries.


Yeah that might be the case as first Coinbase card was initially available in US only and then spread to other countries.  FTX is also doing similar thing, releasing debit card for US market first so I guess that's the standard practice which kinda makes sense.

Since I am always interested in convenient ways to spend crypto, I was about to take one for the team and test the card but then I started thinking that even if its working as advertised for what I would use it? Services I pay where I want anonymity (VPN, private trackers, IPTV etc) already offer direct BTC payment so there's no much sense using it for that, while fees (best case scenario 11.5%) are simply too high to make it a primary card for general online payments, even if they are legit. If that was physical card and fees were up to 5%, then I would definitely see some use for it.

I sure hope more similar providers will appear as competition is a good thing for us users.

But isn't it better to keep that thread opened, share your sentiment about getting local board and bump it on the regular basis instead opening a new thread about exactly the same thing, like it happened now? If that thread wasn't locked, all this conversations would have happened there. Sure, someone might come occasionally and write nonsense/spam but you can always report it. Additionally, I would also share @igehhh's charts in that request thread of years on the regular basis, as another argument for your local board.

You are of course free to do do as you please, but I think that you would have better chances if you focus your efforts in one thread.


It's all about how active certain community is, and not about the size of the population. I do agree though that based on their activity here and amount of members they do deserve local board (and not just them, there is at least one more community that is very active), something I said multiple times in various threads.

The main reason (at least that's my opinion on the matter) forum staff might be hesitant regarding creating new local boards is because quite a few of them became either semi-dead or completely inactive. For example, the last one created was Japanese board back in November 2017, which used to be pretty active. Fast forward to 2022, and it's a ghost town now with few posts each month. That of course doesn't mean there shouldn't be new local boards opened ever again, but might be the reason why its been more than a five years since the last local board created.

There's no mining involved whatsoever, that's just the story they are selling.

On top of being faucet of sorts, they also give up to 20% deposit bonus (again can only be used for trading) and give ~10% ROI (even higher than some knonwn platforms like Celsius) on staked crypto so it really makes you wonder from where they get all that free money. Then I saw their trading fee strategy in which you don't pay any fee if your trade ends up in loss, but if you end up in profit, they take 10%. That then raises the question why would any successful trader use this exchange if they take 10% of his profit? Dunno, but all this doesn't make much sense to me.

You are not wrong buddy, this is a pure scam.


When you think that no one will fall for such an obvious scam attempt, you check the addresses and see that people are sending ETH and BNB. At least address is tagged at Etherscan so this may protect couple of people and for some reason BSCscan is not showing any warning (not sure if it even has that feature).


It's probably the waste of time to go to the police for this. Nothing much to do other than reporting it to Google but knowing how slow they are, it will take some time for them to do anything about it.

Bs. I am glad that in the country I am currently living they don't think so I can freely buy and sell BTC via ATM, without need to provide any sort of info, including mobile phone number.


Not several, but all UK BTC ATMs have been shut. And no, not because they are "places for criminal activities" as you put it, but because companies operating them are not licensed with FCA to offer ATM services.


You are mistaken if you think that KYC is there to protect you.

Potato potahto. Thing is, when you claim certain things like being Mastercard partner that is licensed to issue debit cards, people will ask for more company info.


Talking about red flags, how come is your Twitter account from 2011 when you just started the service few weeks ago? I know that you can change the name of the account (and that's what you probably did) but how come not just creating a clear account for your business? I saw before dodgy businesses using older Twitter accounts to appear more legit so that's why am curious about it. Maybe its nitpicking, but that's how I see old Twitter accounts being used for the fresh business.


If you want to get some traction here, (so far not a single comment from forum users about using your card) you should consider giving certain amount of cards for free so users (preferably those with some reputation here) can test it and give their honest opinion. Iirc, what you offered to one of the users wasn't the free card, but moneyback guarantee or something along those lines.

You have to look at it from the point of view of someone who has no skills, has no clue really about crypto,(other than moving tokens around) most likely comes from the country with low income and it's here solely for the purpose of making money. After all, bounty hunting is very low effort kind of "work" so why not, if you don't have any skills and you have some free time on your hands. And who knows, maybe they hit the mother lode, as they probably heard stories of some bounty hunters getting rich.

The thing that surprises me is how those managers talk all those altcoin projects into having bounty campaign. I would really like to be on a call when they persuade them that it is a must have and that thousands of illiterate lemmings will make the project look attractive to potential investors.

@Best_Change  I just checked the spreadsheet and I saw that you counted the last week's posts so I will change the signature now. It's been a pleasure being part of one of the best campaigns on the forum for almost two years and I am sure that you will continue with the same success for years to come.

Onwards and upwards!

Da, mozes bez problema prebaciti sa Ledgera na Trezor te obrnuto, a i na sve ostale hardwerske/softwerske wallete koji podrzavaju BIP39 standard. Evo ti i link na kojem mozes vidjeti sve wallete sa tim standardom https://getcoinplate.com/en_US/blog/BIP39-Compatible-Wallets-List-2022-updated/9

Believe me, 1% is nothing when buying and selling BTC. Its tough at the beginning to get used to high fees, but there's not many options if you want to stay anonymous. Even when you want to buy/sell from someone directly, people tend to ask for 1-2% fee. For me personally, everything up to 4-5% is ok. Realistically, even that is high but it is what it is.


It gives you the money depending on the official currency of the country where ATM is (like any other ATM machine), so in your case you will get dollars. I am from Croatia and I am getting our own currency ( Croatian kuna ) and next year we are getting euro so BTC ATMs will adjust accordingly.

I have serious doubts about that number. The lowest ever BTC ATM fee I saw was 4% (same ATM now has 6.5% fee), and I am using them since 2017. One of the reasons why BTC ATM fees are not small is due increased expenditures: the owner has to pay the renting of the space, machine itself (and machine ain't cheap at all, afaik 2 way machine costs more than $10k) and on top of that, owner has to pay the taxes on the profit he makes. So yeah, I don't see how 1% fee is possible.

Not really. Let me quote my previous answer



Procedure of selling BTC is simple as well: You choose the amount of BTC (in dollars, euros etc) you wanna sell ( usually its some round number like $100, $200, $500 etc) and when you chose the amount, QR code of the address where you have to send BTC appears on the screen of ATM. You take your mobile wallet, scan the code and send BTC. When you did that, ATM prints out a piece of paper on with QR code which you will scan on BTC ATM once transaction gets few confirmations (ATM I am usually using asks for 2 confirmations). If I am in a hurry I use higher fee to get it done asap, but usually I just go in a bar and have a beer while waiting for confirmation.

Da budemo precizni, tocna brojka je 1396 usera, i stvarno je malo. Treba takodjer uzeti u obzir da su tu i oni koji su napisali samo 1 post, a kad maknes njih brojka pada za cca 30%. Razmisljam prilagoditi chart tako da pokazuje koliko takvih jedva aktivnih usera svaki board ima, da se dobije malo realnija slika.


Mislim da brojka ne prelazi desetak tisuca ni kad se broje aktivni useri na cijelom forumu, ukljucujuci i bounty sekciju. Npr, u 2/2022 cijela bounty sekcija je imala sve skupa jedva preko 5000 aktivnih usera. Budimo optimisticni i recimo da je samo 50% bounty ekipe altovi, ispada da nismo ni blizu 10k stvarnih usera sve skupa. Kad usporedis te brojke i broj ljudi koji su u kriptu, skuzis da forum cini mozda par promila, i sve to unatoc cinjenici da se da zaraditi jako fina lova sa piskaranjem. Ne zelim uopce pomisliti sta bi bilo da se ukinu kampanje, ali bas iz tog razloga mislim da se nikad nece dogoditi jer svi znamo sta bi to znacilo.


Haha da, nelosa ideja. Izgleda da mu mi nismo vise zanimljivi, na generalnom dijelu foruma dobije vise paznje.


Vec sam poceo s izradom novog pregleda. Doduse, skoro svaki mjesec ja pocnem rano pa mi onda nesto odvuce paznju.  

It all depends what your other options are. One of the biggest advantage of BTC ATM is that they often don't ask for any sort of documents, but then again that depends on the country you are living (in my country I can do it completely anonymously). Regarding fees, they are generally high so if anonymity is not your priority or if you can't buy via BTC AM anonymously, there are much better ways to buy and sell Bitcoin.


No, you don't have to give your private key and anyone asking you for that is scammer. The way it works is simple: you choose on ATM the amount of BTC you wanna buy ( for example $100 worth of BTC), then the machine scans qr code of your wallet so it has the address where BTC will go, and in the end you insert the bills in the machine and that's about it. BTC will be sent to your address and you will get a receipt.

About my personal experience, I've been using BTC ATM exclusively for several years, but when fees became too high for me (iirc 2 years ago) I decided to find other ways. I still use it occasionally, but only as a sort of  last resort.

Krenuo sam danas praviti novi mjesecni pregled, kad skuzih da sam skroz zaboravio napraviti pregled stanja za 2/2022 tako da evo ga sada sa "malim" zakasnjenjem. Kao i inace, podaci su preuzeti od @DdmrDdmr Merit Dashboarda and @TryNinja Ninjastic.spacea. Svecano obecavam da ce slijedeci pregled biti u razumnijem vremenskom roku. 

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Broj postova  u periodu 01.02.-28.2.

Tijekom 2/2022 u nasem boardu napisano je 418 postova sto je poprilican pad u odnosu na 1/2021 i 483 napisana posta. Nekako sam se nadao da cemo nastaviti sa povecanjem kojeg smo imali u proslom mjesecu, ali nazalost ono je bilo samo privremeno, trend pada aktivnosti se nastavio. Ako nas ista moze tjesiti to je cinjenica da nam je forum cist od pama tako da nije da se spamaju pizdarije i tako nabijaju statsi. Doduse, treba uzeti u obzir da je i ovo nakraci mjesec u godini tako da je i to jedan od faktora para broja postova.




Na ovom chart dolje se fino moze vijdeti taj trend pada broja postova koji traje vec neko vrijeme i ne izgleda da ce se uskoro promjeniti. Bas je nevjerojatno da je u periodu kad je pocinjao bull market krenuo i pad aktivnosti kod nas. Mozda je stvarno istinita onda da ljudi u bull marketu imaju vise prilika za zaradu sa strane tako da su automatski manje aktivni na forumu. S ozbirom da ce bear market kad tad doci imati cemo priliku testirati i tu teoriju.




Kad se usporedimo sa drugima, ne izgleda to toliko lose. Trend je i na vecini ostalih boardova isti tako da nismo mi tu neki izuzetak. Rusi naravno standardno strse, dalkeo iza njih su Turci i Nijemci. Jedini board koje drzi bas dobre brojke je portugalski, ali oni imaju ogroman potencijal za rast s obzirom da Brazilaca ima cca 200 milijuna.




Ovaj chart je novyet; iako dugo radim ove preglede tek me nedavno zaintrigiralo koliko uopce ostali boardovi imaju clanova. Broj stvarno aktivnih clanova je ipak manji jer su ovdje ukljuceno svi koji su napisali makar 1 post u navedenom periodu, ali ip[ak daje odredjenu sliku stanja. Razmisljam da mozda uvedem minimalni broj postova u slijedecem pregledu, tako da brojke ipak budu donekle realnije.

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Analiza merita za period 01.02 -28.02.

U navedenom periodu na nasem boardu podijeljeno je 149 merita sto je cak i mali napredak u odnosu na proslo razdoblje. S obzirim na primjetan pad broja postova mislim da nema razloga biti nezadovoljan. Jedino je steta sto se ne iskoristava puni potencijal nasih merit sourceva koji onda nemaju druge nego uglavnom dijeliti merite na eng dijelu foruma.




A ovako izgleda situacija kad se uspredimo sa ostalim boardovima, znaci bas smo u sredini. Na vrhu su vec standardna imena, ali ono sto je zanimljivo je da su Pakistanci jako blizu nas, iako uopce nemaju svoj board nego samo jedan thread u kojem su dosta aktivni.




Merit/post ratio je i dalje solidan unatoc sveukupnom padu aktivnosti. Dok god dominira ova plava boja, dobro je, ali mislim da ce se plavi i crveni chart uskoro izjednaciti jer mislim da je prosla vec skoro godina od kad smo dobili nove merit sourceve.

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Lista aktivnih clanova naseg boarda u periodu 1.02-28.02

U navedemom periodu imali smo 39 aktivnih clanova, sto je otprilike tu negdje kao i u prethodnom razdoblju (37). Na vrhu je ocekivano slackovic, ali i on je bio u slacking modu jer je do nedavno imao redovno iznad 100 postova mjesecno. Ova brojka od 39 izgleda dosta solidno, ali kad se realnije pogleda lista, imamo maksimalno dvadesetak aktivnih clanova.

1. slackovic [76]
2. btcltcdigger [47]
3. Trofo [38]
4. Daniel91 [30]
5. cryptofrka [25]
6. Stalker22 [23]
7. casperBGD [23]
8. CroBoy12 [22]
9. FatFork [22]
10. Rikafip [19]
11. badger27 [15]
12. Pmalek [13]
13. 101st [12]
14. dkbit98 [12]
15. Domchi [8]
16. Bajpas [6]
17. jojo_surf [6]
18. m4niac [6]
19. seljo [5]
20. big_daddy [4]
21. Bitcoin Store [3]
22. Franczeck [3]
23. ruleset [3]
24. sbogovac [3]
25. campica [2]
26. joker404 [2]
27. lovro [2]
28. trullix [2]
29. BitunaTeam [1]
30. Dikka [1]
31. Heehoo Fork [1]
32. Nina111 [1]
33. Tigerw [1]
34. aginagalde100 [1]
35. bunarsson [1]
36. icopress [1]
37. kozmos241 [1]
38. rkorade [1]
39. wishxy [1]

@Teletalk.org didn't quote the proper reports, farukahmed made bounty report several hours before Happy jrNy, which he then just copied. Tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if he has some other alts on this forum, but I don't think that @Happy jrNy is one of them.




No, that's not the proper way to connect the accounts. What if someone else uses your social media account, does that automatically mean you have an alt?