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3621  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 02:23:51 PM
The "Advantage" my script gives is time.  It really is that simple.  The more time you give a person to make a rational decision,  the more likely they are to make the right decision to stop when they are ahead.

FFS. Is that it?  Shocked

That all it does? It works slowly.

Edit: You have given me an idea. I'll invent this really good system that only logs in once a week and only places one bet using 5% of the balance. It'll take years to lose everything.
3622  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 02:18:31 PM
Really?  There is nothing I can do to show them what it does before they download it?  Are you completely blind or just acting silly?  Since when do you need to dl anything to watch a youtube live stream or check validation links (which can be done at any time, I have plenty here to check)?  Who said they had to DL anything to see how it works?

NOTHING shows how something works better than ACTUALLY SHOWING IT IN ACTION.  Wow the retardary coming from your corner is really large at this point heh.

You're just getting repetitive now. The whole live steam looks extremely shady and easily faked. Nobody can watch it 24/7.

Explain how your script gives any advantage.
3623  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 02:10:40 PM
Changing the subject?  I'm not changing anything.  I'm simply using your logic to prove that Freebitco is just as "Snake Oily" as my bot.  BTW imo NEITHER of them are "snake oily".  But for debates sake,  I am using YOUR logic,  to show why you why you're wrong in what a bot can/cant do.  You're trying to apply non-logical assumptions to something that simply isnt true.  This is why I'm able to use your own logic against you.  Let me put it another way.  You're a pot calling the kettle black.  It's as simple as that.

That is what is known as whataboutery. You want to argue about freebico.in business practices to distract from your own. There's a large amount of that on your website as well.

Your script is designed to maximise your referral income at the expense of any fool that uses it. That's what I'm here to point out. Nowhere can you explain what your script is actually doing for the victim that downloads it. The best you can do is come up with some bullshit about time that just makes you sound like a stoned new age hippy.
3624  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 01:56:54 PM
You do realize that's a LYING statement right.  Freebitco IS NOT A FAUCET.

It is both. Unlike the other casinos, they do not stop you using the faucet at a certain balance and you can go all the way up to withdrawal without having ever wagered a single satoshi.

I do like how you keep trying to change the subject. You obviously like to distract from your shady betting script being put under any scrutiny. That website of yours is just a wall of text that has no information at all that is relevant to explaining how using it gives any advantage over any other betting system. It is all there to distract from the fact that you have no advantage at all.
3625  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 01:47:32 PM
Man I wish I had you as a debate opponent in college,  this would have been a cakewalk haha.

Declaring oneself the winner of a debate is usually a very strong indication of having lost it.


I see,  so using your own logic,  Freebitco is deceiving it's own users by 'selling itself'

The difference is so blindingly obvious I would have thought even you could work it out.

I said you're 'selling shit' as in the false hope making easy money to gullible fools.


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That is just an accurate list of what freebitco.in offers.
3626  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 01:29:09 PM
Oh so now I'm selling something

Now your English is letting you down. As in selling someone an idea.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sell
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Sell
3 archaic Trick or deceive (someone)
3627  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 01:15:41 PM
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigt.  Ok bud LMFAO.

Believe it or not, I really don't care if you misunderstand my motivation here.

I just don't let people selling shit have an easy ride. I'm not convinced by your pony live stream and I know enough about the casino industry to know that your system is simply designed to earn you referral income at the expense of any fool that runs it.
3628  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 12:25:14 PM
*COUGH* MAJOR BULLSHIT *COUGH*

You misunderstand yet again. I didn't say I wasn't responsible for support. I am saying that pointing out your bullshit isn't support. The support role involves answering queries about the site and sorting out customers problems for them. I am also free to continue using the forum exactly as would have done before being given that role. I already said earlier in this thread that I'd be giving any snake oil salesman that turns up here with a fake betting script a hard time whatever site it was designed to run on.
3629  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 12:09:02 PM
It works both ways bud.  If this is such shit,  you would keep your trap shut as freebitco would stand to win quite a lot from it.

I already told you I'm speaking for myself here, not freebitco.in

Of course, any site welcomes script and system betting. It increases rollover and therefore potential profit. It is a complete misunderstanding of the industry if you think they care about individual outcomes.

That's because it is not possible to design a system to consistently beat -EV.
3630  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 11:24:05 AM
I must be quite the prophet. deluded fool or fraud.

It is very difficult to tell which as you keep switching from one to the other. I'd think the fact you're not prepared to increase the stakes points more to the fraud that knows his betting system is likely to bust at any moment. It probably has done countless times but as nobody can watch a live stream 24/7 you can easily hide that.
3631  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 11:13:09 AM
Nope,  the change is one of convenience, not need.

Yeah right, it would be inconvenient to win more.  Roll Eyes
3632  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 11:07:33 AM
I agree with the inevitable loss scenario.

So you haven't actually got anything then.

However in order to win enough to break the bank with my own current bankroll, it would take literally centuries.

I'm not talking about breaking the bank. I'm pointing out that you only risk a small amount because you know you'll lose it. If you really believed in your system you'd reuse profits to ramp up your winnings. You don't do that because you're actually just out to get referral income.
3633  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 21, 2018, 08:16:21 AM
Are you saying that Freebitco.in is manipulating the server seed?

This is why I don't understand what they are going on about. Like every other provably fair site we give you the hash of the server seed before the roll. Then after the roll, we reveal the server seed and you can check it against that hash. The client seed you are free to change, use static or random.

Edit: I should have said "every other provably fair site that I've used".
3634  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 21, 2018, 06:07:55 AM
I dont even know what that is.

That explains a lot.

And just because I dont have a certain bank roll to prove that the bot can break the bank of a casino,

I didn't say that. You don't trust or believe in your system enough to use any winnings to increase your stake and minimum bet to make a larger profit. If it worked you would be able to do that. You can't because you are just a lying charlatan spouting a load of pseudoscience bullshit about how you invented the time machine.
3635  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 21, 2018, 06:05:35 AM
The only way you can trust the system is if the server does NOT change the server seed after each roll (that's what Nonces are for). The server only needs to change the seed if you ask the server to provide the seed to you so you can verify the bets. (i.e: Prime-Dice does in fact implement this correctly)
I have been wondering about this too, why the server seed changes every roll (on free roll and multiply BTC)
all other dice games I've played seem to implement the same as what primedice does
the server knows server and client (player) seed but player knows only "server seed hash"
this way server might be able to change/adapt his own seed to manipulate the outcome

I think you mean:
the server only knows the server seed but the player knows the "server seed hash" and client seed which they can change.

AFAIK that is how we do it.

https://snag.gy/W9JsGl.jpg


If you can explain to me what is wrong with that and what exactly Primedice do differently I'll ask wetsuit about it.
3636  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 20, 2018, 05:04:52 PM
Because I dont have the required balance to do that.

That is because your system doesn't work. Anyone that had actually invented the perpetual momentum machine to make free energy sorry a betting system that worked would keep it to themselves and gradually increase the stake and base bet. They would also spread it around different sites so as to maximise their gains.

On the other hand, a scammer like you would just target dumb n00bs to earn referral income by making a script designed to maximise rollover.

Edit. Oh, frickin' lol. I just looked at your screenshot in that last post and saw it is a progressive betting system. Bring it on big boy. Convince your bank manager to lend you enough to buy that 4000 BTC. Just tell him to watch the live stream as it is so convincing. /facepalm

3637  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 20, 2018, 03:18:22 PM
Naa,  your reading to much into that.

I'm not. If you really believed your system worked you would risk more to make more. Why just pick up pennies if you really had invented a system that worked? You could just increase everything by 10x or 100x and make that much more. You don't because you a are a fraud living off the referral incomes of the fools that believe you.
3638  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 20, 2018, 03:05:00 PM
Have a bigger balance than the casino.

Yeah, more deluded idiot.

That's why we and all casinos have a maximum win. That's a very small percentage of the bankroll. If someone gets lucky and makes a dent in the bankroll the max win is reduced. That makes the decay an exponential that can never hit zero.

Please do increase your bankroll and try. Oh but wait:

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I have tested a few risky settings and taken 0.5BTC up to 3BTC but I dont have the gonads to actually try it live lol.

So maybe you are the scammer looking to fool the naive after all.
3639  Other / Meta / Re: New Report to moderator stats ;) thank you theymos on: May 20, 2018, 02:48:36 PM
Users who didn't made a report in the last 30 days, normally couldn't find anything in their history.
If you mean that you have for example less than 10 reports and you couldn't see how many are good/bad/unhandled then probably you are right about the minimum requirement (even if i don't understand the reason behind it)

It was a long time ago now but I remember when I first started reporting that my accuracy stayed on 0% for a while. I guess it might be a minimum sample size required to make a percentage relevant.
3640  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 20, 2018, 02:42:37 PM
~

Yeah, I was right again, you really are deluded.
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