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3621  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The wikipedia entry for "Bitcoin" is so bearish... on: March 28, 2014, 08:52:16 PM
Money is things with true value that aren't based on someone promising you that it will be worth something tomorrow (certainly not a bunch of criminals), things like Gold, Silver, Platinum etc.

If all the humans who value those things (Gold, Silver, Platinum, etc.) die today, those things wouldn't be money either, so I think your definition is lacking.

True value doesn't exist. Value is a relationship. Something or someone has to give value the object being valued.
This.
3622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Town of Darrington, WA (hit by the mudslide last week) is accepting BTC donation on: March 28, 2014, 08:50:22 PM
If all their computers are buried in mud, what use will Bitcoins be ?

Shouldn't we be donating mudslide recipes instead?
3623  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ok, let China ban bitcoin, we do NOT need them. on: March 28, 2014, 08:46:16 PM
Actually many Bitcoin investors will not happy if China coin market being shutdown completely. Bitcoin made it to $1000 on December because Chinese traders was in buying spree. Their huge demand pushed the price to the moon. Without trading volume from China, the price would be 200-300 for now, not 500.
We're headed there now (200-300 range), and everyone will just have to accept it. For a few weeks or months, until it shoots back up to 1,000 by the creation of some new very user-friendly app  Wink
3624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin had existed in 1930... on: March 28, 2014, 08:39:17 PM
,,,the mis-handling of the Treaty of Versailles and punitive crippling economic sanctions imposed by the victors in 1919. There might have not been the possibility of a "Hitler"-type character in Germany in the 1930's had the previous war been settled correctly and a stable Germany recovered from the defeat.
I agree! That's my entire point! "crippling economic sanctions" -> crippling for the German PEOPLE -> if the people had a way to totally avoid that crippling economy, by divesting their wealth from their nation's fiat (read: fake) money into global crypto, don't you think they would have done so?

We certainly would today. Many smart people are doing exactly that, as I write this.
3625  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: Honeypot? on: March 28, 2014, 08:35:45 PM
QFT
3626  Other / Off-topic / Re: All-Star List Sharing - Let's help eachother out on: March 28, 2014, 05:17:43 PM
Mircea Poponatanamoutus Popescu! (my apologies, it's all Greek to me) of http://trilema.com/ fame!
3627  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: My view on the future of Crypto Currencies on: March 28, 2014, 05:16:32 PM
somehow I ended up with an account negative 999,000 LOLcoins...I don't know how this happened can anyone explain?
Essentially, the internet is saying to you, "hey, your LOL coins are actually worth less than nothing! You shouldn't use this crypto... Stick to BTC"
3628  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: My view on the future of Crypto Currencies on: March 28, 2014, 05:14:23 PM
With Mintcoin, you get more coins by holding them
Wait, wouldn't that be terrible for any Mintcoin-based economy? Since it is the MOVEMENT / fluidity of currency that grows an economy??
3629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ok, let China ban bitcoin, we do NOT need them. on: March 28, 2014, 05:08:30 PM
Go on, bitcoin,  your future is in free world.


中国人看了别生气,这是事实。  各位可能知道我是谁,免喷。
Thank you so much. China's government can ban it all they want, but the next time BTC spikes past 1,000, watch how fast hundreds of millions of Chinese jump right back onboard the profit train.

CHOOooo Chooooo!!
3630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Rumors of Bitcoin's libertarian death have been greatly exaggerated. on: March 28, 2014, 08:19:43 AM
...to live in this society, you must obey laws that you may not agree with to keep from going to jail.
Raise your hand if you've downloaded any music, movies, or TV shows lately.

*raises hand*

If you have, you've been breaking the law. Have you gone to jail for it? I haven't.

Speaking of breaking the law, the authority figures do it too:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayinthesky/2014/03/27/busted-police-allege-lax-theft-ring-stole-from-fliers-bags/6949949/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/dozens-baggage-handlers-involved-lax-theft-ring-police-article-1.1737407

Trusting wealth with strangers is a risky proposition... that's why Bitcoin is such a brilliant technology.
3631  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ... and then they fight you .... on: March 28, 2014, 08:15:08 AM
It's usually, "They ignore you, they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you GET FUCKED"
Just like we fucked the copywrong establishment by inventing the torrent, the creators of the world have REALLY fucked the oligarchs now, by inventing a superior form of money.

So who's getting fucked again? Not us.
3632  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Rumors of Bitcoin's libertarian death have been greatly exaggerated. on: March 28, 2014, 07:10:25 AM
 What does that really prove?  
What does Detroit really prove? #racism_spotted
3633  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: IRS Ruling Best thing Imaginable, You Idiots on: March 28, 2014, 05:32:14 AM
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3634  Economy / Speculation / Re: Russia to Drop USD as reserve currency - could mean 5000+ USD bitcoins on: March 28, 2014, 05:29:21 AM
Personally, I will be much more impressed and pleased when the headline reads, "America drops the USD as reserve currency."

We're better than this, as a people, as a nation. Supporting neo-imperialism and neo-fuedalist corporate empires is not the way to go for a nation founded on "liberty and justice".
3635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Critical Importance Of Cryptocurrencies - What's your take? on: March 28, 2014, 05:09:27 AM
read this editorial here: http://altcoinauthority.com/2014/03/the-critical-importance-of-cryptocurrencies/

Please contribute to this discussion, we're all in this together.
Everyone should read the article in the OP, because it's brilliant and right on point.

Quoting for the community's benefit:

"Money and its associated systems of commerce are the most influential and pervasive man-made influences on the human race today. As the paradigm we use to associate value with something and transfer that value amongst us, currency informs us in many ways both obvious and subtle. Currencies drive societies and are responsible for enabling mankind to transact in such a way that we can all function together.

Noble, you would say, and in its purest form, few things are nobler. However, there has been a fundamental flaw in our systems of commerce since inception – the privileged few exercising control over the most basic needs of the rest of us. We all know that this doesn’t work, but why is that so? The unfortunate truth of the matter is that it is a rare person indeed who can and will subordinate themselves to the public good. After all, what kind of person is involved in this pursuit of power in the first place? The people who run our governments and monetary system are at the beck and call of special-interest groups and power-brokers who have their own agenda. The common person is powerless to do anything but accept what they are given. The result of this kind of system range from deficit financing to outright fraud and theft to human oppression. What are we to do? How can we hope to give everyone a fair playing field in life and still run our society? Hopeless…until today.

Cyptocurrencies are a brilliant answer to an age old problem – that of the Byzantine Generals. The Byzantine Generals is a problem in Mathematics and Computer Science that has seemed unsolvable for many, many years. In plain English, it asks us if it is possible to create a decentralized network that can achieve consensus. Until the Satoshi Nakamoto (a psedudonym) paper which essentially defined Bitcoin, most theoreticians thought that it was impossible. Well, it isn’t – that is exactly how Bitcoin works. I won’t delve into Bitcoin mechanics here (a separate post is required), but one of the most earth-shattering effects of cryptocurrencies is the fact that they require no central authority. No central bank, no Federal Reserve, no group of people controlling the money supply and all of the negative implications of that model. Just as the internet has empowered people through free speech and the ability to provide a testament of what occurs in our society, cryptocurrencies are threatening to level the playing field. No longer will society be at the mercy of their government and doomed to a sub-standard quality of life simply because of another’s greed and lust for power – we will finally be able to control our own financial destiny to a degree never seen before. Fiat currencies, and all of the corruption they entail, are on their way to becoming a thing of the past.

However, before I close, a warning of sorts. Nothing worthwhile is ever free – especially freedom. We will not get to the point where cryptocurrencies fulfill their potential if we do not do our part. First of all, keep in mind that people do not give up power without a fight. The governments and other power-brokers in this world have been sitting pretty for many, many years now and will do their best to maintain the status quo. Expect a lot of propaganda and associated incidents that are manufactured to make cryptocurrencies look unreliable. Be aware that these people and institutions have immense resources and will, at the very least, make a play for control of important currencies. There is a great deal at stake here. How can you help? I can see three important ways everyone can participate. First of all, speak up! Use the net to voice your opinion and support cryptocurrencies. Be aware of coming attempts to discredit this technology and do your best to expose them for what they are. Secondly, use cryptocurrencies. Simple. There are many ways to get your hands on cryptocurrencies (we give lots away on this blog – look here!). Get some and use them. We would be happy to help, so if you have any questions, go to one of our forums and ask away. General questions is a good place to start. Finally, educate yourself and spread the word. Talk to your friends and co-workers. Take the time to sit down with your children and explain what a monumentally important concept this currency is. Encourage discussion.

This is an extremely exciting time to be alive, to see the way we live as people change so very much in such a short period of time. So let’s take this chance we’ve been given and make our society a better place for everyone."
3636  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ... and then they fight you .... on: March 28, 2014, 01:16:54 AM
Yep, and then you win.
3637  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: IRS Ruling Best thing Imaginable, You Idiots on: March 28, 2014, 01:14:12 AM
"I'm sorry Mr. taxman, I accidentally sent all my BTC to this address (insert literally any address) and then I lost the password! All my wealth was destroyed... hey can I have some of your fiat?"
3638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Built to Last a couple of decades? Will other altcoins rise up? on: March 28, 2014, 01:10:47 AM
I'd say Bitcoin is pretty safe for anyone who is alive today and reading this, for the rest of their lifetimes.
3639  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fill you in on Chinese Secret - Moved $20M out of China on: March 28, 2014, 01:09:57 AM
So far I haven't seen much competence or boldness from those holding large amounts.
That's because smart people who are holding large amounts are careful not to divulge this information to the public.
3640  Economy / Speculation / Re: This is why bitcoins are dirt cheap right now on: March 28, 2014, 01:07:35 AM
Bitcoin is a direct threat to banks.... I imagine in 12 months or so, you may be able to avoid banks totally
I've been avoiding having to use my bank for several of its features, such as wealth storage, for over a year already. Bitcoin does some of this stuff better, such as security.
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