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3621  Economy / Gambling / Re: Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? on: June 28, 2023, 11:02:50 PM
But the most important thing before going to play and gamble is the need for real money and or something of value such as an asset to be at stake so that it can be called gambling in its entirety because gambling without something at stake is rather difficult to call it gambling.  Wink
What is certain is that if you don't use money, there is no challenge that people will feel because they can place bets with large amounts of demo money. Gamblers are looking for challenges like that, so it makes them come back for more. But if it's just for fun, they can play without using real money. Well, everyone must desire to gamble or just play without using money or anything that can excite them.
The sad truth is that, only a few people actually plays the demo version of the games if their have the option to play the real game because there is a difference between the two sucne demo games lack some features that are available on the real game because the original game is develop to meet the expectation of bith the casino and the players but demo version is more or less for tutorial and nothing more than that.
3622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: June 28, 2023, 10:55:38 PM
Well, Manchester United is a team that doesn't have a problem with spending money to recruit new players and even top players. The problem is with the management that wasn't good nor stable to maintain the brilliance of the team. With Ten Hag, the team shortly moved from playing like clowns to compete for the top spots. That was a good step for a team that missed a lot of points in the beginning of the season. Next season will be more promising in my opinion for Manchester United but they have to consolidate the team and get ride of useless players.
Now the most important thing for Manchester United is to arrange the sale of the club as soon as possible, because there is information that the Glazer family is no longer going to spend money on new acquisitions, and the new owners, respectively, also have absolutely no way to do this yet. They say that Ten Hag is tearing up and rushing about this, because the club needs reinforcements, but he can't do anything at all and only looks with impotence at how the main competitors are strengthening.
Selling Manchester United may not be the answer to the club's problem because we have seen from history how clubs even after their sold still struggle with the problem that lead to the selling of the clubs in the first place,  take Chelsea for example,  when the club had it a crisis and it was sold since then the club have not been able to recover fully.

And as a matter of fact, their condition worsens further without any solution insight unless for the management fo does a total overhaul and releases power to the coach to manage the club with adequate timing,  so instead of Manchester United falling into that condition,  it is better for the club to build a formidable team that can help the club recover it lost glory instead selling the club.
3623  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is bitcoin pumping when the economy is heading into a recession? on: June 28, 2023, 10:45:41 PM
Forgive my ignorance, I am very new to this space. I saw talks about CBDCs and that drew my attention back to cryptocurrencies. I thought the last bull run would be the last we would have seen of bitcoin ever reaching those heights so I stopped looking at the crypto space ever since. But now we have discussions about dethroning the dollar and CBDCs, I am changing my mind about that, but I still find it fascinating that bitcoin is pumping in this economy right now. I am by no means an expert in economics as you can clearly tell, would appreciate it if anyone who knew could shed some light here. Always keen to learn. Thanks
The fact is that bitcoin is gaining momentum right now and at that, the entire economy is battling with inflation and the currency is becoming worthless,  and for that it very clear to all to know that bitcoin has become the only store of value same like gold but in a digital format,  so since bitcoin is anti-inflationary in nature,  it then becomes clear to all to know that while the economy battle with recession and other economic problems,  bitcoin is busy making and breaking new ground.

So there are no other economic terms that we can use to explain this other than Bitcoin being an anti-inflationary currency,  and since Bitcoin have a calculating supply of 21/million it then becomes hard for it to be inflated.
3624  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|🤠Crypto Rush for 50 000 000 BFG | $100 000 Grand Lottery💸 on: June 28, 2023, 10:17:24 PM



Before any gambler decide on using VPN on any casino, it is very much advised to first contact the casino customer care service to find out if the casino accepts users using VPN on the platform or not, and even if the customer support says yes to the usage of VPN, it won't harm to also make sure that what the customer care said is also in line with what is written in the casino's terms of service, when the two does not tally, it is better to go with what is written in the casinos terms of service instead of what the customer care say, since there are customer care personnels who don't even know the rule and regulations of the casino they are working for.
The thing is that, vpn usage may be overlooked sometime by the casino and this is because, most casinos already have the understanding of the fact that human are nomadic and can easily move around and once there is a restriction on their movements, are access to basic things both onkine or physical,  their will always look for an alternatives.

So that is why some of them result into Vpn usage just to bypass those restrictions at some point.

Also just as you advised, it good to know the site stance on VPN but for sure most casinos are cool with VPN usage, as long as the user does not violates their site rule or abuse the system in any ways.
3625  Economy / Speculation / Re: Microstrategy buys again! on: June 28, 2023, 10:11:36 PM
Instituitional investors are the ones that have the ability to push the price in a particular direction as either to pumo it a also dump the price when their decided to cashout their profits, take micro strategy for example.

Their current bitcoin holding is enough to make a price impact if their decide to take any action, even if it doesn't have a long term effect on the price it short term impact will definitely be felt.

This is the reason why the call for institutional investors have been un the rise because as it have it postuve advantages on the market so there is also few negative impact on the market also, is vis visal.
3626  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: June 28, 2023, 10:05:48 PM

Confirmed! Can see that the ticket was pending our support team.

The issue should be resolved now, can you confirm? Smiley
Yeah I also expect him to make a confirmation that his withdrawal has been approved otherwise people would be arguing about another issue when the team has done it's part so there is clarity on the matter to all in this thread that team responds to genuine issues solving them ASAP.
This is what everyone here is expecting from the players who made the complain earlier and his confirmation of resolved withdrawal will go a long way to show how active and problem resolving the team have become, against the previous public perception about rollbits of having several unresolved issues.

But to this point, this casino have mentained their public image and visibilities here in the forum and that shows their level of resistance to attacks and ability to resolve issues where their are at fault.
3627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent on: June 28, 2023, 09:55:48 PM

The gambler priority was only to avenge his losses earlier, afterall he recorded gigantic losses, in my opinion the betting agent has no idea although he made faults because he knows the risks involved in gambling and still supports someone to gamble after witnessing the gambler losing steadily. They're both at fault, before gambling, atleast know the amount of losses you can take in and never to be too desperate to bet on games, do take time and mapped our good strategy, and if it doesn't go as plan, leave it, tomorrow is another opportunity to try again.
The fact that the betting agent have fucked up by allowing the gamblers to bet and play games on credit make it look as if the agent already have a forhand understanding with the gambler before that incidence for him to have allow the gambler to acumulate such debts trying to cash up with his loses which landed him into a bigger debt.

So in a clear term of the are at fault aince one can not blame one and leaving out the other since it takes two to commit such crrime, but only the business owner will determine what becomes the ountcome6of both of them.since the agent already know that it will be hard for him to recover from such mistake of allowing the player to gamble on credit which is against the business policy of not credit no play or bets.
3628  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: If you get motor, you go pay 1k for proof of Ownership from July on: June 28, 2023, 09:32:33 PM
We should not forget to the fact that even vehicle papers were all reviewed in upward direction before a personal salon vehicle cost 12,500 to renew and also 25,000 to registered a new vehicle.

But at the moment to do a vehicle renewal is 25k and to registere new vehicle is 55k, the increase in government tax will increase the rate of inflation in the country but since the CBN are the ones involve i am sure their will come out with a positive  energy and policy that will help checkmate the impact of this new tax regim on the citizens.
3629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: June 28, 2023, 09:21:54 PM
Attetta is setting a very good system in Arsenal and I see Arsenal with a promising future. Last season they did fought a good fight but were a bit unlucky, this season will bring something different for Arsenal, especially with the joy of featuring in the UEFA champion league. According to Fabrixmzio Romano, The club is currently on a hunt for Jurien Tumber and is already close to agreeing on a deal.  Arsenal had a little defensive challenge last season and I'm sure Timber's deal will help subside that. Bringing in Declan rice, andJurien is a good preparatory measure for the gunners.

Attetta had a good performance in Arsenal in this season and he helped his team to have a good performance in the premier league where they got second place in the table and they were even in first place of the table for weeks, Attetta is not experienced like Guardiola and in the end, they lost the race mostly because of Guardiola, otherwise, Attetta could help Arsenal to win the title.
I think Attetta is now more experienced and he can have even better performance in the next season.
We can not ascribe the success of a team ro a particular players e en though their contributions have pushed their respective clubs forward but even at that we still have some other clubs with better players but lack of combination or management draged them backward in this season amd even in other seasons before this time so the ultimate thing for teams members is to work with other team members to make a goods co vine efforts to secure the clubs winning at all time Atattah age and experience have indeed contributed to pushing upward till this current Asernal positions.
3630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why People Still Gamble? on: June 28, 2023, 08:45:23 PM
they have no control, they are looking for it is just a game, you cannot leave a responsibility for gambling when you risk real money, things are clear here when they are fulfilled 18 years is the normal age for anyone to be able to do what they want, because everything is under a total responsibility scheme, and what happens from then on and that they do wrong can even be punished by jail, so it is better to do things well so that there are no problems, that's why children should have their games away from casinos.

But quite unfortunately,  some underage is still engaged in gambling and this has really stirred up some discussions in many quarters and this has even led to the banned I gambling in many countries around the world all winning attempt to kill underage gambling.

But the government efforts have not yielded any positive results and also the need to good parenting of the child is very important.
3631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Happy Eid-El-Kabir on: June 28, 2023, 08:09:39 PM
The population around my area. Is 40%/Muslims and we leave in friendship and harmony as most of us have the basic understanding that religion is just man made,  so for that we give less attention to religious activities or perceptions and this have not taken away our time of celebration such as this to wish all the Muslims around the world barka de salah.

This is a time for prayers and staying focus to making the world a better place,  by embracing contemporary. development such as Bitcoin/blockchain technology for better human existence
3632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why People Still Gamble? on: June 28, 2023, 07:54:38 PM

As for me I think the parents owe the children nothing to explain to them as long as they never let the vacuum of their responsibilities in training the children remain void, when your children never have access to gambling or where they do such then you owe them no explanation, parents have their own part they play from their children way of upbringings, they must not engage doing things that we will not be aware of which may affect them in life the wrong way.
Parenting comes with a lot of work and educating the child on the danger of some action goes a long way to saving the child in the future when they are no longer with their parents, and it doesn't necessarily need that the child is exposed to it before you give them the awareness on the dangers available in the society and how to handle them.
I use my personal experience to check this thing, when I was young, my parents use to tell me real-life stories and sometimes we had both the good the bad and the ugly so those lessons thought us how to handle some in our real life.
Gambling lessons should be thought to young kids so that that knowledge will help to guide their actions when they grow up.

We need to safe ourselves from future challenges by avoiding our children get exposed to gambling right from onset, children are not yet responsible for their school fees payment, neither do they have other responsibilities attached to them to take care of which need financial aid, their time is needed to be invested on their education and learn about other careers in life than getting too exposed to gambling at their early stage.
I agree with you on the need for education and growth in the kids before any adulthood exposure because gambling is for responsible adults who knows how to make a decision and take responsibility for those decisions,  kids need to build their basic foundation and avoid any possible distraction because gambling to an underaged is an abused and this can lead to uncontrollable addictions.

But if a child has grown to some level and can handle the responsibility,  and that is why regulators always specify an age limit of 18🚫  years.
3633  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitgert a scam? on: June 28, 2023, 07:37:11 PM
You should also give some more info on the project because that will help those who want to help the guide to what exactly are saying,  we have had a lot of projects lately and this has made some of those names strange to investors and even myself I have not hard if this project before so at that I can't give any answer but to ask you to add a link to this thread to serve as a pointer to what we are looking for because with that you can get the expert opinion you are looking for.
3634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gender in Gambling [differences between Women and Men in Gambling] on: June 27, 2023, 10:58:13 PM
I'd guess it's 50/50 casino play and 95% men for sports.
Do you think we have up to 50% of women involved in gambling?


Because women have this sentimental judgment on risk and gambling games involve a lot risksisk that may kill women's motivations even though there are already records of positive women's involvement in gambling, it still has not reached up to 50% since statistic still shows low women participation in gambling compared to the male forks you are actively and heavily involved in gambling.
3635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: June 27, 2023, 10:40:40 PM
Do you mean they collect some fees for people to have those sure bet as they said?
What if the bet or games didn't go as they planned and has taken some fees from fellow or newbies how do they make their refund or does it mean after collecting their fees they block access from them?

I was chat on my WhatsApp with an unknown number offering to provide some reliable games that I should bet on and win huge maybe after it plays I should chat back to share my experience with their games but I didn't even try to bet it because there are lots of things happening before someone would label me to scammer or something else.
Yes, most of those SureBetss providers collect payments to share those games with their clients and that is why you see them contacting people through social media and other social media platforms trying to lure more clients into subscribing to those services,  we have hard-rising cases of failed predictions and it is already proven that those services are unreliable and should be avoided in all totality.

Most of those bets are generated out of individual analysis and sold for a fee,  which is why most of the game outcomes are always against the gambler since the analysis is done by random individuals who may not have the right team information to make such speculations.
3636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: June 27, 2023, 10:21:43 PM
No gambling tips are reliable or certified trusted with all means always have it in mind that it was that reliable there wouldn't have been any way to share across rather wanting them to achieve it all and progress for themselves. Gambling is a game of probability is either you or lose and what's the probability of you to win is 1 or 0, so no reliable sports bet group that would give you an accurate results.
Yeah and we have to sound this warning to as many as possible because quite a good number of newbies fall for this type of scheme from those who see themselves and sure bet generators of winning signal providers,  most especially the ones that offer such services for a fee.

If the bets are really sure why can they invest a lot of money in it and thereby become rich,  why do they need the little fees they collect from victims all in the name of providing them with sure bets?
3637  Economy / Speculation / Re: This year is dumping ground for bitcoin on: June 27, 2023, 09:57:23 PM

When I was new to crypto investing, this was the method I usually followed. The saying "invest as much as you can afford to lose" gets forgotten after a while. Someone who trusts Bitcoin and says they won't use their own money for a long time will invest more than they can afford to lose. Someone who starts investing regularly will also invest more than they can afford to lose. This is usually the case. Because when they buy small amounts of crypto, they don't care much about the money, but these small amounts grow over time.
You forget to mention that constant accumulation is what amount to huge starched in the long run,  this is because buying little by little makes investors to accumulate more bitcoin even more than they afford to lose on the loan run,  but if you check closely you will know that the process of accumulations may take time and the amount at the certain time may be what the investor can actually afford to Lose.
3638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your rate in betting base on odds alone? on: June 27, 2023, 09:52:11 PM

I like to think the latter when it comes to live games because the game is already in session and although its hard for them to manipulate the odds then but there is still the fact that anything can happen in that game that can alter your predictions and make you lose that bet and moreover life bet makes you spend more money since you will have to stake the game huge cash to actually guaranteed any good returns and don't even start by telling me you bet for fun because you will definitely like to win and not the opposite.
Yes anything can happen even during the live games and it all depends on the luck factor on the side of the gambler because there is nothing like sure predictions and at that, all our analyses still depend on luck to win,  I have lost a couple of live games but if the ratio between my loses and winning put together I think I have won more than I lose in a live game.

But on the ability for the odd to get manipulated on and at that the gambler is at the advantage of easy prediction and actual payout since the odds will remain the same all through the games.
3639  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Patricia breached, bitcoin and naira stolen. on: June 27, 2023, 09:41:15 PM

The Nigerian government or bank will not intervene, and no one will be arrested over crypto hack or not as far as Nigeria is concerned. I can't tell if Patricia rugpull like most of the trading platforms out there, but what I can tell you is that whoever gets into a crypto scam, lost valuable crypto assets does so at his own risk, the Nigerian government has banned crypto trading activities and is not going to engage in it, so everyone who is into crypto in Nigeria does so at their own risk.
In most cases or in all scams such as this the those who lost assets on this centralized crypto exchange have themselves to blame since the government through the central bank already warn Nigerians of the danger of crypto investment or assets which is why banks in Nigeria we're directed to stop bank vs crypto transactions.

And with such laws,  the scammy shity crypto exchanges will take advantage to pull an exit one of their customers and the event playing out at Patricia is one of such centralized exchange scheme,  because whatever security vulnerability that leads to the loss of client bitcoin balance or other balance on the exchange.

I never trust Patricia for once since their exchange rate is lower than other market rate also having high naira withdrawal fees makes the case more complicated.
3640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your rate in betting base on odds alone? on: June 27, 2023, 09:21:06 PM
If i'm only betting based on the odds, then i'd probably lose more because there are a lot of inconsistent teams between different leagues that fail to deliver a win at home and on the road whenever they're a 1.5 - 1.7 favorite. Even with research, I've been struggling to win on favourites with odds around the same range, so you need to learn when it's a trap because it's common to see bookies rate a few teams too high, and then they'll start bottling when you bet on them.
Odds can deceive anyone and sport book sites are always fun of using the odds mechanism to trick gamblers into choosing the wrong odds by being manipulative in their odd allocation,  because sometimes they give bigger odds to the stronger team and also small odds to the weaker clubs so if a gambler is not knowledge enough you end up choosing the small odds taking it as a sure odds.

But then what I like most is to bet on live games that way I can easily predict the outcome of the match and my chances of winning will be higher than expected.
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