Intro
Pasar kripto saat ini cukup asyik, sayangnya untuk kita yang tidak memiliki uang lebih untuk trading, pastinya kita hanya bisa melihat. Tak pelak ada perasaan "Saat yang lain pada cuan, saya hanya melihat doank". Dari perasaan tersebut, kita akan mulai berpikir untuk mencari jalan pintas, misal dengan meminjam uang ke pinjol, minjam uang ke bank dan sebagainya. Bahkan ada yang nekad menjual barang pribadi seperti motor (padahal kendaraan satu-satunya) demi trading. Ada juga yang mempercayakan trading ke orang lain dengan alasan ia adalah orang yang jago (bukan broker, tapi hanya kenalan). Ini merupakan awal yang menyedihkan untuk trading.

Tujuan
Tujuan utama thread ini adalah untuk mengingatkan kembali pemula yang kurang paham analisa teknikal maupun analisa fundamental atau yang belum memiliki uang "free/dingin" yang mungkin berharap ingin segera mendapatkan profit karena melihat kondisi pasar yang sedang bullish namun ia justru mengambil metode alternatif yakni dengan meminjam uang atau mempercayakan trading pada orang lain (terlebih ia menggunakan uang hasil pinjam tersebut, makin berabe). Sudah sangat sering dibahas memang, masalah untuk tidak menggunakan uang hasil pinjam untuk trading di berbagai post, dan disini saya ingin membuat thread agar lebih mudah untuk ditemukan. Intinya, thread ini adalah untuk pemula yang sangat minim pengalaman.

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Uang free/dingin adalah uang yang memang tidak ada alokasinya untuk Anda gunakan dalam jangka panjang dan Anda siap untuk kehilangan nilai uang tersebut untuk jangka panjang saat pasar sedang bearish sampai Anda bisa take profit.

Topik

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1. Harga kripto yang sangat fluktuatif
Alasan pertama adalah, harga kripto sangat fluktuatif dan terkadang di luar nalar (naik dan turunnya). Jika Anda melihat bullish hari ini, belum tentu besok, dan seterusnya. Ketika Anda melakukan entry, dan ternyata Anda beli token saat sudah berada di pucuk, atau koin tersebut sedang masuk fase bearish, maka Anda mungkin tidak akan mendapatkan profit. Hal ini akan meningkatkan psikologi negatif karena Anda menggunakan uang hasil pinjam dan tidak profit, maka akan semakin mengacaukan manajemen trading Anda.

2. Pikirkan masalah bunga
Jika Anda pinjam ke Bank atau Pinjol, Anda sudah pasti akan dikenakan bunga. Ibaratnya pinjam 6.000.000 di bayar cicil 3x, dan Anda setidaknya kena bunga 1-1.5 juta misalnya, tentunya Anda diharuskan membayar lebih. Jika selama 3 bulan kondisi bearish berlanjut, dan Anda masih minim kemampuan trading (TA/Fundamental/Charting), maka kemungkinan Anda mengalami kerugian 2x, rugi karena market bearish dan Anda tidak dapat menutupinya, dan yang kedua, Anda rugi karena harus membayar bunga.

3. Debt collector & privasi
Yang tidak kalah mengerikan adalah, ketika Anda gagal mendapatkan profit karena pasar yang tiba-tiba bearish dan Anda masih belum bisa menganalisa dengan baik, kerugian tidak bisa ditutupin, masalah yang muncul adalah masalah debt collector. Iya kalau mereka hanya bertemu dengan Anda tatap muka saja. Yang paling mengerikan adalah pinjam di pinjol. bayangkan jika Anda meminjam di pinjol, Anda telat bayar utang kemudian seluruh kontak Anda mendapatkan broadcast bahwa Anda nunggak hutang, bukankah ini akan membuat Anda dan keluarga malu? Pinjam ke teman pun demikian, sekali Anda nunggak, satu kampung akan tahu bahwa Anda memiliki hutang ke teman Anda (memang tak semuanya teman seperti ini, bagaimana jika orang yang memberi pinjaman kepada Anda ternyata seperti ini)?

4. Masalah Psikologi
Sama halnya ketika Anda menjual rumah untuk membeli bitcoin, kemudian harga bitcoin anjlok, Anda rugi besar dan yang menyedihkan tentunya Anda tidak lagi memiliki rumah. Sama halnya ketika Anda meminjam uang di bank, di teman, dan Anda masih belum bisa menutupi kerugian karena bearish, ini dapat mengganggu psikologi Anda. Iya kalau pinjamannya cuma 1- 2 juta, kalau sampai puluhan juta dan tidak dapat menutupi kerugian karena tidak bisa analisa dengan baik, bagaimana cara Anda tidak stress ketika melihat dari modal pinjaman anggaplah 20 juta, hanya menyisakan 5 juta. Mau bayar dari mana, Anda pun tidak memiliki aset bernilai lebih dari 15 juta.


Kesimpulan
Itulah alasan mengapa Anda tidak dianjurkan untuk melakukan trading dengan menggunakan uang hasil pinjam. Jika Anda melihat market bullish, dan tidak ada modal uang free, biarkan saja bullish ini tidak dinikmati. Mungkin ini bukan rejeki Anda ikut berparty di masa bullish. Bukan berarti Anda tidak bisa merasakan profit di masa depan. Rencanakan mulai dari sekarang, akan jauh lebih baik daripada bertindak sekarang tapi menggunakan metode nekat.

You're right, not all coins will go up even if we've hold them for a few years. If they fail in development, the community will slowly leave the project thus making the tokens/coins that we store have no value. In fact, even if the project lives for a long time, it is not necessarily if we buy it at ATH at this time, in the next 5 years we save, we will get a profit. it is not true that hold will automatically get rich in the future. What matters is not how long we hold, but how well we research the project, adoption and community, maybe with these 3 things we can find coins that are worth holding on to.

It will be different if we talk about hold coins/tokens which already have adoption and use cases, maybe hold statement and we will get rich, there is some truth. but back to risk management.

there are still many matches left, for sure Juventus can still return to the top 3 or even become champions. Their focus is how to maximize players without having to depend on 1 or 2 players only. Without Ronaldo, it seemed like Juventus struggled in the first few games because they needed adaptation and also because their main players were injured or someone was called up to the national team. Now that they are on a good track, they will soon be back as one of the candidates for the Serie A title this season

59K sudah berhasil dilewati oleh BTC, perjalanan menuju 75K sepertinya akan lebih cepat jika. Ini merupakan area resisten terakhir sebelum menyamai ATH pada bulan april lalu, mungkin kalau sentimen pasar semakin meningkat, maka hari ini pun sudah bisa mencapai ATH April di 64K. Yang paling mengejutkan adalah pasar altcoin sih, dalam beberapa hari terakhir ada saja yang naik hingga 100%+
menurut saya hanya menunggu BTC mengalami hal serupa dalam waktu dekat ini, meskipun tidak sampai naik 100%, maksud saya akan terjadi pump serupa.

I've used this method, I'm trying to find new coins/tokens listed on CMC, Coingecko and so on. However, listing on this website does not guarantee the future of these coins. Some only last a month, then scam.

Then, I've also noticed the method my friend uses, by using a new live pair on Dextools, but most projects also end up rugpulled within a hour or less and some of them are fake smart contract. 

well, this is not good start i think

You already got the answer from poodle63, if you don't want to use bridge, only exchange can help you to have USDT BEP20 version. It's just that, first make sure the exchange you choose already supports the network. AFAIK, if you are Binance users, binance charges only 1 USDT for USDT-BEP20 withdrawals.

Maignan's injury surgery went well. however, the bad news is, Maignan is expected to be out until the end of this year. Maignan is a pretty strong goalkeeper, I can even say that Maignan's performance is better than Donnarumma. he managed to make saves from the attacks of opposing players many times, which so far has made AC Milan look impressive. The absence of Maignan is certainly an advantage for Verona. Hopefully AC Milan still can get 3 points.

Member baru, Torbalin menayakan mengenai fee exchange, pada thread ini, sudah saya report ke mod agar tidak terjadi duplikasi/relevansi topik.


Jadi, pertanyaan ini akan saya bantu jawab, untuk saat ini, proses withdraw yang murah yang saya ketahui adalah tokocrypto, karena biaya penarikan untuk jumlah kecil hanya dibutuhkan biaya Rp4.500. Sama seperti Indodax, Anda harus lolos verifikasi terlebih dahulu. cara verifikasinya sudah disebutkan oleh Rengga Jati di atas.

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Terima kasih koreksinya untuk biaya withdraw tokocrypto memang seharusnya 5.500. ada kesalahan info dari saya

I don't think it's appropriate to suggest that a newbie goes straight into NFT, because NFT is something new that may still lack a method to research what kind of NFT he should buy in order to have value in the future.

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For OP, the altcoin suggestions given are quite good, they have a large market and a fairly strong community, except for AXS which is still relatively new, but the adoption of AXS games is already quite popular, it should be an alternative for your colleagues. However, always remind him, about risk management of his investments, if he already have experience in trading, maybe you don't need to do this.

Indeed, the KYC issue cannot be underestimated, 1miau made a thread about the dangers of KYC. however, if we want to use dex, the problem is, difficult for us to withdraw fiat money. If we are seeing good bye to CEX. I don't know how it is in your country, but here, there are very few reliable P2P services crypto to fiat. But, on the other hand, using KYC on a state-operated CEX, the only solution for Fiat, may be that we need to do KYC for exchanges that are already government-licensed. although back on there is no guarantee of the security of our data.

Verona may be a team that is under AC Milan, but this team that often surprises AC Milan, from the last 3 matches Verona managed to draw AC Milan, and lost once with a score of 0 - 2. Verona also managed to beat AS Roma, and have never lost in a Serie-A match since that match. Maybe, AC Milan will be a little difficult to beat Verona.

If MU players are too dependent on a Ronaldo, of course it is difficult for MU. However, in terms of players quality, I think MU is still better than Leicester, I bet a draw, because I think Leicester's position in the middle will makes motivation of the players better, especially against teams that are in the top 5 standings, Leicester certainly want to prove that they are not a weak team, and they are able to can get even 1 point.

Leicester have to work hard against Manchester. They didn't look like last season, there have been a lot of weaknesses in the last few games. The hectic schedule makes Leicester feel like they are experiencing fatigue, thus making players less able to play optimally. Even though leicester are not at their best, I will bet on a draw results, because they will also be more focused on chasing points so they can get back into the top 5 soon. It's a bit difficult, almost all betting platforms predict MU. Because they have Ronaldo, it will probably win easily.

Sentimen market Altcoin hari ini cukup mengesankan, ini SFP memberikan kejutan dengan kenaikan 129% (saat post ini dibuat), TKO juga mengalami sedikit pump, apakah mungkin altseason terlebih dahulu terjadi sebelum BTC melanjutkan perjalanannya untuk mencapai 100K dalam waktu dekat ini. Untuk SFP saya tidak menemukan berita fundamental yang kuat untuk membawa SFP naik segitu, tetapi memang kripto seperti ini.

Apart from ATH which once touched $40, the Cake team has strong fundamentals by regularly burning Cake. Although burning has no effect at the moment, the lower the supply and the more DEX it uses, the more likely Cake will hit a new ATH at $50 in the future. however, to reach that price for now Cake is still not strong enough. unless there is a strong bullish trend as well. If the BTC trend is valid bullish, then it could be the end of this year $50 becomes the new ATH cake.

Yes, i know about this, i mean, If used for the benefit of the club, of course this fan token still provides something for the club, such as PSG. As for other fan tokens, it still can't be like this. If all fan tokens can support like PSG to pay player salaries that the club cannot fully pay, of course this business will be quite interesting, at least if there is a use case to support the club.

I haven't seen any use cases for fan tokens like Milan tokens, Juve and so on that support the clubslike PSG did. Have fan tokens in Italy already provided support for the team or are they just regular tokens that cannot provide financial assistance for the club?

Or am I the one who doesn't understand if it's been used? 

Indeed, in recent years, this pattern often occurs. I myself have been following the BTC price trend since 2016 and noticed that there is a similar pattern between this year and 2017. This is certainly one of the important knowledge for me or even for new traders, because it will be easier to try to follow the pattern even though it is not 100% the same. Traders may find it easier to take profits at the end of the year or early January.

Good news for Juventus, Dybala is reported to have a fairly positive recovery period. Dybala might be available against AS Roma. still waiting for the official line up. As for Moratta, he may recover at the end of the month or early next month. So it is certain to be absent against Roma. If Dybala is played, of course this will give Allegri little option to be able to perform better against Roma.

We don't know if Shiba Inu (or another Inu related tokens), will forever be meme tokens or they will develop a project for their use case. If at some point they turn into more than just memes, then of course these tokens are very worthy of being used as long-term investments, not just considered as gambling.