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3641  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 04:25:49 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.



I would say those are under 18's who were doing assignments on it in school on Friday.

You guys know that kids use Google too, right?

Well if you look at the leave campaign and here at the brexit threads ( under the premise that the ppl who said  that they are UK inhabitants really are) i think moglie's post is pretty much spot on.

There was an opinion poll out yesterday which showed Leave voters were happy with their decision. All adult voters in Britain know what the EU is because we've been literally arguing about it for forty years, constantly. It has been in every newspaper, every day, for forty years.

The people who might not know are the kids in school on Friday doing assignments on the exciting developments unfolding, and some of our non-EU migrant workers who were probably wondering how it all affected them.

I get that some Europeans are terrified that the UK has lit a fire under them, but this decision is final. Britain is fed-up to the back teeth of the EU. The EU is also wrong for our economy - we specialise in financial services, but they've been refusing to allow a single market in financial services for 40 years, mainly because they fear British companies will crowd out local firms. So we lose nothing from extricating ourselves from the corpse that is the EU. Getting out now before the rotting corpse explodes and spews stink everywhere is the smart thing to do.

Most of the arguments we already talked about. So just ralk about the terrified europeans for now.
You know there are atleast 16.1 million terrified europeans in the more or less United Kingdom?

I really think you guys are in more trouble then continental europe is.
3642  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The 2nd referendum “petition” is wide open to fraud on: June 26, 2016, 04:14:33 PM
I dont get it how could the illuminati failed to manipulate the first referendum Huh

I knew never trust reptilians to do a job that you can do yourself! Angry
3643  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fuel prices are down since Brexit on: June 26, 2016, 04:05:09 PM
Oh, "not that simple"? Well your first BS argument seemed pretty simple though. "Leaving EU will drop gas price" Roll Eyes

First: yeah and so what?
Second: you're talking about tax burden of UK, which is the ONLY argument of leavers. If you can't understand that freedom of trade and European cooperation on research and education is worth the 200 pounds per capita that it costs, you don't deserve it.

Do you think that the only negative aspect of the European Union membership was the £200 per capita cost? No. The direct EU funding from UK is the least of the worries. There are more serious issues. The wages for blue collar jobs in the United Kingdom has dropped steadily for the past decade or so, due to the influx of Poles and Lithuanians. Also, house prices and rentals have soared in most of the cities, resulting in a large part of the native British unable to afford simple housing.


There exist minimum wage in the UK. What you say is not possible. (Wage dumping)
Also London was the financial metropole of europe - obviously hni were buying everything there and that was the reason for such high housing prices in london.
3644  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The FTSE after Brexit on: June 26, 2016, 04:00:26 PM
Leaving the EU can't do any good to a country importing 17billions of pounds more than it exports.
The main reason why they import that much is the European Union. Coal mines and factories are being closed all over the United Kingdom, as the local products can't compete with the (zero-tariff) imported stuff from the rest of the European Union. It is not possible to produce coal at $50 per tonne in the UK, as the labor costs are quite high. Still, in countries such as Poland and Slovakia, they are able to produce coal at prices much lower than that.

Statistics about UK imports:

http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/import/gbr/all/show/2014/

And coal is definietly not the main reason for such high imports.

Also coal use in UK is declining because they are switching to different energy sources (eenewable, nuclear).
3645  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 03:42:49 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/leave-remain-brexit-uk-google-trends-what-is-eu-european-union-referendum-what-happens-now

"What is the EU?" is the second top UK question on the EU since the #EURefResults were officially announced

Voters on the day of the referendum were uninformed and didn't take into consideration the real situation. I'm not saying it's why there was a Brexit, because nothing proves that people voting "leave" were the most googling this questions (no data can exist on such affirmation).
It just proves that Britains were not informed on the day they voted, that they didn't grasp the importance of the situation and that they made a hastly, unthought decision.



I would say those are under 18's who were doing assignments on it in school on Friday.

You guys know that kids use Google too, right?

Well if you look at the leave campaign and here at the brexit threads ( under the premise that the ppl who said  that they are UK inhabitants really are) i think moglie's post is pretty much spot on.
3646  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The FTSE after Brexit on: June 26, 2016, 03:21:18 PM
People like Fortify and a lot of die-hard remain supporters are in total fucking denial that somebody dared to disagree with them, they simply can't understand why people would want independence and that things might actually go well for the UK, I do think it's too early to tell yet, but just the fact that housing prices are finally dropping means we are at least denting things like the banking cartel which have held back this country for decades.

One simple argument:
Leaving the EU can't do any good to a country importing 17billions of pounds more than it exports.

If you can't understand that, Rest In Peace.

Can I just say something, will you people stop making me agree with bryant.coleman?

Thats the reason we make fun of you Wink

Edit

Lethn you gotta understand that your weirdest opinion is fine as long as you use facts and not lies like bryant to back it up.
3647  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The FTSE after Brexit on: June 26, 2016, 02:38:27 PM
People like Fortify and a lot of die-hard remain supporters are in total fucking denial that somebody dared to disagree with them, they simply can't understand why people would want independence and that things might actually go well for the UK, I do think it's too early to tell yet, but just the fact that housing prices are finally dropping means we are at least denting things like the banking cartel which have held back this country for decades.

Exactly. There was a lot of scaremongering from the Bremain camp. I remember David Cameron even warning the voters that Brexit can trigger World War 3. None of that realized. And on the other hand, I expect the FTSE rallying to record highs in the next few weeks. And this will act as a trigger for Frexit, Nexit and Grexit.

Just quoting that for the next weeks Smiley
3648  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 02:37:30 PM
I think god just shaved the queen  Cry
3649  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fuel prices are down since Brexit on: June 26, 2016, 02:36:28 PM
In the long term, the prices will go down. The pre-tax price of gasoline in the UK is around £0.324 per litre. After taxes, it rises to £1.08. This means that around 70% of the price is made up of taxes, a significant part of them due to the European Union. Once the EU membership is cancelled, the tax burden will be reduced and the prices will go down.

Totally false. This is the kind of BS that makes people actually believe leaving EU is good...

The minimum taxation of oil is fixed by EU, mainly in order to reduce its consumption. But the UK and ONLY the UK keeps the money from this taxation. And we can't really say government can afford reducing its incomes when you see its commercial or financial balance...

Not that simple.

First, the EU has kept the minimum tax at extremely high levels. That is why gasoline in the UK costs almost three times as much of that in the United States.

And secondly, although the UK keeps the tax money, they need to donate tens of billions of UKP every year to the European Union.  

Another lie.
 
We have very high national oil taxes in germany but still are like 20-30 cents cheaper the like in the UK.
Go east europe and you have even more cheap.

Here in germany people say liers have short legs. Bryant must be a dwarf for sure.

3650  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 02:28:57 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

America and Canada are part of the NAFTA so they're not on your list. CHina is in the ASEAN so not on your list neither.

Well, you still have Russia that's right. Wanna compare Russia and UK? Roll Eyes
Oh and just for your culture, Russia is actively negotiating for a free trade organization with its neighboors.

Seems like the whole world is trying to do exactly the opposite of what UK just done...

The point is these countries are trading with places like Europe without the need for these organisations, you also have Norway and Sweden who are definitely independent of the EU and have been trading absolutely fine, all people like you're doing is scaremongering and it pisses me off.

Sweden is a member of the EU...
You probaly are talking of norway and switzerland.

And the most important they just dont trade freely with anyone. They all are part of trade agreements. Without bi/multilateral trade agreements you trade under the law of the WTO.

There are always rules and laws you have to abide by.

They arent in the EU but in the EEA.
They pay money to the EU, are part of the Schengen treaty and had to implement pretty much all EU laws just with the "tiny" difference that they have no political decision power in the EU.

MUCH GOOD, VERY SMART!
3651  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 01:57:19 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

America and Canada are part of the NAFTA so they're not on your list. CHina is in the ASEAN so not on your list neither.

Well, you still have Russia that's right. Wanna compare Russia and UK? Roll Eyes
Oh and just for your culture, Russia is actively negotiating for a free trade organization with its neighboors.

Seems like the whole world is trying to do exactly the opposite of what UK just done...

Russia is in the Eurasian Economic Union.

Only UK is alone trololol
3652  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 01:55:29 PM
Britains, is democratic people and they dont like to take orders from unelected people in EU. That simple.

75% of your democratically elected representatives in Parliament voted to remain. 'Direct democracy' by referendum is a populist circus.

No no, they are all corrupt illuminati or reptilians and such.
3653  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 01:48:30 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

Please give me such country. I'm waiting for a name because the vast majority of countries are doing ALL THEY CAN to create free trade organisations.

China, Russia, America, Canada, you were saying? Also, these are not free trade organisations, that's a lie, they're called trading blocs and that's a different thing entirely.

Now tell me whos stronger in a negotiation with china and the usa: UK or EU?

I dont think you understand how world economics work.
Would be nice if we live in a fantasy world but truth is reality looks much different.
3654  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Erdogan calls for swift removal of Trump name from Istanbul Towers on: June 26, 2016, 01:45:11 PM
“[Trump] has no tolerance for Muslims living in the US. And on top of that they used a brand in [Istanbul] with his name. The ones who put that brand on their building should immediately remove it,” Erdogan said, according to The Turkish Sun.

On the other hand, I want goat fucker Erdogan to show some tolerance for the minorities which once lived in Turkey. Up to my knowledge, Trump has never massacred any minority people in the US. The Turks have committed numerous genocides and ethnicides, and that is the reason why minorities now compose 0.1% of the Turkish population, as opposed to 30% a hundred years ago.

Your logic sucks.

To use the same logic you would need to ask how much genocides the USA perpetrated...

I think turkey would still look like a kid in comparison.
3655  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: Brexit on: June 26, 2016, 01:31:45 PM
wo führt das jetzt hin?

€ fällt weiter?
austritt weiterer Staaten?
Strafsanktionen gegen ausgetretene Staaten?
Streit mit ausgetretene Staaten?
Krieg mit ausgetretene Staaten?


Die EU-Verträge sehen derartige Sanktionen nicht vor.
Und was den Austritt weiterer Staaten betrifft... sollen die möglichen Kandidaten doch bitte eine Volksabstimmung darüber abhalten. Denn die Zeiten scheinen günstig, die Populisten, die Nationalisten, die Seperatisten, die Zahlenvertreher und Lügner scheinen momentan en vogue zu sein. Bitteschön.



Die EU hat ursprünglich auch keinen austritt vorgesehn. Die Stimmen waren laut als es geheißen hat das man Griechenland rauswerfen soll.

Ich glaube du verwechselt EU und Euro-Zone. Ersteres betrifft artikel 50, letzteres betrifft Griechenland (auch wenn sie natürlich auch in der EU sind, aber es ging speziell da um die währung).
3656  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the west collapsing? on: June 26, 2016, 01:23:42 PM
Yeah really thinking about moving to russia to get my social welfare there.

I heard russian woman can make a lot of babys so i can get more social welfare and stuff!!!
3657  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fuel prices are down since Brexit on: June 26, 2016, 01:20:40 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/683140/Brexit-what-will-happen-to-house-prices-when-Britain-leaves-EU-referendum-2016-property

Housing prices are dropping in the UK, this actually affects me, housing prices will be cheaper so it will be easier to find a place once I earn some real money!

I think actually that guy is a huge troll.
3658  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The FTSE after Brexit on: June 26, 2016, 01:14:15 PM
People like Fortify and a lot of die-hard remain supporters are in total fucking denial that somebody dared to disagree with them, they simply can't understand why people would want independence and that things might actually go well for the UK, I do think it's too early to tell yet, but just the fact that housing prices are finally dropping means we are at least denting things like the banking cartel which have held back this country for decades.

Brexit instantly makes everything cheaper... hail nigel farage.

Economic wisdom of brexiters is incredible.
No wonder the leave voters are backpedaling on their decision.
3659  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Google proves Brexit is just a dumb and emotional action on: June 26, 2016, 01:06:40 PM
Yes, that's right, ignore all the other independent countries who have no problem trading with the outside world even in today's society, again, the idea that you need a giant organisation for free trade is a fucking joke, yet you still push it even after the referendum results.

There is an easy reason for that:

The bigger markets make the rules. It means every independent country making deals with china, eu, usa have to play by their rules.
That is why we have an EU, an Asean and soon an North American Union. Bigger equals more negotiating power - always!
3660  Other / Politics & Society / Re: EU snakes to support Irish and Scottish schemes, shall the US defend UK? on: June 26, 2016, 01:02:35 PM
The UK wanted to create a trade agreement a la ttip with the USA after brexit. You know the answer was?

Please get in line.
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