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3641  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin surpass Gold ? Could it be used as (Store of Value) instead of Gold? on: June 09, 2015, 10:18:40 PM
Why would bitcoin surpass gold? Shocked

Give it time. Even if bitcoin is here to stay, Rome wasn't built in a day. But hey, I'm not one to believe that BTC is about to become world reserve currency, or some craziness like that, either.

people like to fantasize about bitcoin taking over fiat currency and gold. it's only not going to happen. what's wrong with bitcoin being an alternative instead of saying it will take over this and that.

+1

A scarce digital alternative asset class. Very possible and i don't mind this either. Question is, would its value escalate wildly if its use as an alternative became mainstream?

that's the point, it won't raise for nothing, if it would remain only a mere alternative, and maybe a niche alternative, well it depend how big you can see this alternative

going mainstream and being alternative are two things that can live together

then again, what do people consider mainstream bitcoin usage? world wide accepted by merchants? being able to have a bitcoin balance in your bank account and thus spending it as easily as fiat currency?
3642  Economy / Speculation / Re: Which crash was worse: 2011 or 2014's? on: June 09, 2015, 10:11:33 PM
imho 2014, because there were much more merchants, companies and business involved..so overall impact was bigger for sure.(

most of the merchants use bitpay to convert their bitcoin sales into fiat. which means that they don't suffer even when there is a huge crash.
3643  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the blockchain become Too Big to Fail? on: June 09, 2015, 10:08:39 PM
These guys fall into the assumption that the blockchain can exist without a healthy Bitcoin which is nonsense. If the blockchain is a success, it means Bitcoin is doing great because is the native currency in which miners get paid to keep the blockchain going. Everyone will be using Bitcoin, even if they don't know they are using Bitcoin, as the Winklevoss brothers pointed out. It will be the underlying mechanism of all future electronic transactions.

blockchain and bitcoin both need each other, don't think anyone would disagree with that. i only think people expect too much from bitcoin. nothing wrong with it if bitcoin purely functions as an alternative to other services.
3644  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why i am here :0 on: June 09, 2015, 10:27:17 AM
I see many Cloudthink.io social campaign they pay real but I see something same with Cointellect scam.

it's probably a scam the dev is red flagged, i would not trust it to be honest, and there are plenty of other choice, maybe there are many that joined anyway because he is promising a hight reward

it's sad to see how many people will join such campaigns while they know there is a bad smell. they only care about their earnings.
3645  Economy / Speculation / Re: People don't want to invest into bitcoin because its a software on: June 09, 2015, 10:23:39 AM
People can hack it  Angry

you had somehow hacked brain or something? this is one of the most stupid thread which I ever seen..

at first i also posted that this is a nonsense thread, but the dude simply doesn't understand how bitcoin works. i'm sure if he get to know bitcoin better he then realize how bad this thread is.
3646  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally!!!!! on: June 09, 2015, 10:19:44 AM
Anything new that happened today? News? Developments?

why do you think something happened? just because the bitcoin is up a few bucks? it's just a wave of nothing that will vanish within a week.
3647  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Experience with cloud mining on: June 08, 2015, 09:39:41 PM
i have very bad experience with cloudmining everytime i invest the site always be scam before ROI they always runaway with my money
for now enough for me im very tired with that situation and no more invest in the cloudmining site

it's way too easy for people to create a nice looking site and say you can buy contracts with amazing returns, bla bla bla. people should just think before investing in crap. cloud mining sites that offer great returns is a direct red flag.
3648  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin has entered Wall street officially? on: June 08, 2015, 09:33:31 PM
Interesting.  Even if they are not technically on wallstreet this is a good development for bitcoin.  Any time it gets in the news is good, and overstock isn't exactly small potatoes.

overstock has shown time on time to be far ahead of other companies regarding accepting new technology. very open minded ceo.
3649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is in deep trouble. Litecoin to take its place soon. on: June 08, 2015, 07:10:28 PM
If bitcoin dies, Litecoin will die before.

They don't even have devs interested enough to don't give up in something that might be good for LTC

this is opinion

It's actually fact. Litecoin has been abandoned for a while. It only got a lot of traction at the beginning because it coined itself as the original alt (when it's actually a fork of Tenebrix) and because Gobble was involved.

imagine what will happen when btc-e decide to delist litecoin. the only reason it is still there is due to the fact that it generates an ok volume for an altcoin.
3650  Economy / Speculation / Re: What does it take for Bitcoin to go 100X? on: June 08, 2015, 07:06:57 PM
Simply put more people need to use bitcoin.  The amount of coins in the order books are too small.      Bitcoin needs to be implemented into systems that transfer billions of dollars a day.

if the orderbooks were so small as you say we would see the bitcoin price way higher than now. wall street need to get on board or huge adoption, otherwise we won't ever see bitcoin being worth more than $2000
3651  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which is the best Investment Option for Bitcoins? on: June 08, 2015, 10:06:38 AM
I have a few bitcoins and am going to buy a few more in a day or two. Will have some 10+ Bitcoins then. I wanted to know which is the best investment option where I can invest my bitcoins and earn some profits as their is no point of just holding them and let them stay dead in my wallet.

What's wrong with just holding them? If you 'invest' them you could very likely lose them all or a lot. The easiest and safest way would probably be to just day trade but personally I would just buy and hold them for a couple of years and I''m sure you'll have made much more this way than just day trading or investing in some probable scam.

holding bitcoins is already an investment, but as you probably already know is that just holding them is not enough for these people. they want to at least double their coins within a few weeks.
3652  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Spike in Bitcoin Transactions on: June 08, 2015, 10:03:26 AM
not everything has to turn into a higher price. you should know that as hero member. so many of these transactions are dust just to make things look good.
3653  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin points of massive price movement on: June 08, 2015, 03:17:12 AM
The problem is knowing when that correction will come, and how big will it be. For example it could come say at $400, and you'd still make a lot of money buying in now. That's the fun part of investing, or I should say speculation.

for everyone that is really believing in the rise, this is the best opportunity to buy, but many of those are saying that but they are not actually doing it, there is still that small % of thinking that bitcoin might not rise anymore, and will remain at current price forever

Price can go both up and down, but i seriously doubt that it will stay where it is, bitcoin seams to be dependent on price oscillations. For now, price not going under 200 is a great success.
Regarding people saying one thing and doing the other; well, many believe that the price will go back up, but due to their financial state cant afford to invest anymore.
cheers

it's a matter of time before we see bitcoin below $200 as i don't think current level can hold it for another month. too much pressure.

Why?

I can't see the selling pressure doing worse than now

it's simple. most traders don't have patience. at some point traders will dump because they are tired of looking at the same price for ages. remember that plenty of traders are looking for quick profits. something they are not getting now.
3654  Economy / Speculation / Re: $225 is the new normal. on: June 08, 2015, 03:11:38 AM
Not so sure. Might continue to range this way for some more weeks, couple months maybe. But I think a big move is on the horizon. And I'm leaning bearish on it.

if so, you must have bought plenty of coins to prepare yourself for the "big move" , right? chances are higher to see the price going lower for comming months.
3655  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What are you selling for Bitcoin? What can you buy with B? Discuss and post here on: June 08, 2015, 03:07:29 AM
so far i have mostly bought digital goods such as vps, hosting and so on with bitcoin. also bought a few small things from dinodirect with bitcoin. great experience.
3656  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: if I disconnect my pc will my BTC be safe on: June 07, 2015, 11:24:24 PM
I think no
but someone can physically take your bitcoins either taking you wallet.dat file, or exporting private keys or other way

or your bitcoin keys already being leaked from the last time you connected to the internet, it would be safer if the PC was never connected to the internet.

at some point you have to connect your pc to the internet, whether you want it or not. just make sure before you do anything, your pc is clean and safe. then you don't have to worry.
3657  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: June 07, 2015, 11:21:05 PM
Trading is not an safe investment.

Most of the times it is as safe as gambling, I think
yeaaah right now trading already like gambling. better I am playing gambling  Grin

if you guys are talking about trading altcoins, then yes, it is the same as gambling. people don't understand that, or they just don't care.
3658  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin QT is extremely difficult to get working, prohibitive to Bitcoin users on: June 07, 2015, 11:17:55 PM
Bitcoin Core was the first wallet that I ever used/downloaded, I still have it but only use it for change really & the signature campaign that I am in, the entirety of my main stash is in cold storage.
I initially used Core because back then as a total noob I wanted to use the 'official product', basically just wanted to be safe & not get scammed.
It takes way too long to download & even now when I catch up on a weeks worth of blocks or something it often gets stuck on e.g. '12 hours to go' for ages so I have to close it down & start it back up again to kick it back into action.
If I started again as a noob today with more knowledge I wouldn't bother downloading the whole blockchain with Core.

there are other light weight wallets better suited for you if you don't like having the entire blockchain on your computer. but newbies don't know that unfortunately. they don't know what the difference is and complain about bitcoin core being very slow.
3659  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Why blockchain.info doesn't work nowadays? on: June 07, 2015, 06:02:48 PM
it was not working for a while due to maintenance. my second favorite block explorer is blockr.io their layout is very smooth and clean.
3660  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Chart] My prediction about Bitcoin Price from 2015 to 2017 on: June 07, 2015, 05:56:06 PM
Well, one thing that is certain is the fact that the price will go up significantly!

not certain but very likely, the only thing that is certain, is that something will happen, we won't remain stuck forever in the current 220-250 range

the hystory of bitcoin is with us, so in theory it should raise

it's not that hard to figure out bitcoin will rise in the long run. but currently it has a higher chance to go down. the question is, how low.
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