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3661  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who will win WW3? on: January 19, 2016, 10:45:06 AM
Hey, I wouldn't want to hurt your feelings but I'd say the only winners will be Europeans  Grin

I'll take the example of France, cause a citizen it's the country I know the best.
I'd say that in case of a WW3, France would be completely neutral and wouldn't even lose one soldier.

Why so? Well easy as a pie. We got the Bomb H along with 7 nuclear submarines, a total of 480 bombs can be launched at any time anywhere on the Earth. It's enough to destroy any nation, even Russia, China or USA (though maybe not the 3 of them).
Now, why would anyone try to invade us? Why fighting us?
We got literally NOTHING you would want! Our main resources are corns and our culture. There is no interest for any nation to risk being destroyed by our nuclear power.

So I would say that France and probably a good part of Europe would stay neutral, and that no one would try to invade us. Just because we have nothing of interest, main resources are Oil and Iron, we don't have much of both ^^

For me we would be the winners, because we would be the one not fighting. Especially as they can fight by the other side of the world, it would even be shorter to go through the Pacific ocean =)
3662  Other / Politics & Society / Re: War is a crime on: January 19, 2016, 10:34:18 AM
War is money. Money buys power. "With great power comes great responsibility money".

It's all about money and power. Money equals power.

We're dominant species. We fight to gain power and spread our ideologies, no matter if people think they're good or bad.

Just wanna say that you're not totally right.
Money is different from power. In our current society, which is a rather peaceful one whatever one's could argue, money is deeply linked to power.

But when a society crashes, then we go back to the basics. The power, the real power, is the number of humans fighting, and the weapons they have. The people can, at anytime, in any of our civilized country, revolt and put down the head of the state to create a new order.

But well, where you're right is that "can" and "they will do it" are totally different, as long as we actually believe that money = power it will be the case :/
3663  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I Will Never Vote for Donald Trump on: January 19, 2016, 10:20:30 AM
I will never vote for trump,because that person is putins friend. Trump looks like a schizo,not president Wink

I could never vote for Obama, because he bows for Saudi kings, and putin is disgusted with him for good reason.

I could never vote for Hillary, because of her crass lies during Bengazi, and afterwards to the families of those killed.

I guess I could vote for someone who looked like a schizo.

Could be better than some other options.

AHAHAHAHAH  Grin
You sir, actually made me laugh xD

For sure, compared to most politicians, having only a schyzo seems fair enough!
(Though Trump is much worse than just a schyzo of course)
3664  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I Will Never Vote for Donald Trump on: January 19, 2016, 10:17:41 AM
Who knows what they want. But we want, among other things:
1. Get rid of the income tax and don't replace it with anything;
2. Get rid of 90% of domestic business regulation;
3. Get rid of ALL victimless prosecution;
4. Repeal all laws that make anything that we do on our own private residence illegal as long as it doesn't clearly harm someone;
5. Open up 90% of government lands to homesteading.

This would give us a whole lot more freedom, and would make the nation prosperous again.

Smiley

Yeah! Your nation would be even more free than now! You'd have even more inequalities than today! Awesome no?

I really can't understand the American dream it seems ^^
But what you're asking for is basically the end of any kind of state, USA government doesn't have much power over its citizens compared to European states for example, especially compared to France, so lowering this power would mean state role would basically be to take care of the military stuff.

I'm not criticizing though, I can't understand how you would want that but as long as it's what you want, who am I to tell you it's the worst choice ever? If you want to be the first country in the world in inequalities, your choice  Smiley
(It will grant you another "1st nation of the world title", along with being the first nation in terms of number of prisoner per habitant, and number of people believing angels are real ^^)
3665  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: January 19, 2016, 09:57:46 AM

No I'm an agnostic. Which is slightly different though we have in common to not follow this incredibly stupid and full of insanity book of the faith which is the Bible (but don't worry the others sacred books are at the same level of inconsistency and nonsense Wink ) and it seems that you have a problem with that...
And I was not arguing with you here, but explaining that atheists have their own purposes and don't follow any arbitrary God rules that's all. You don't have to care about atheists goals as you seem to follow only the sacred laws written 2 millenias ago...

What do you follow?


Best regards.

My own goals: to be happy with my lovely wife and be sure that I'll always be able to take care of her and protect her. To make sure she's happy and safe. To make sure that I have enough to take care of my family and my dearest friends. To build something that will improve the world and the country in which I had the luck to be born.

My own precepts: Let people do whatever they want if it makes them happy as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. Always help if it doesn't cost you more than what the people in need deserve. Don't follow the rules that you know are unfair.

And I also want to build my own company cause I hate working for someone. Nothing tremendous as you can see.
3666  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: January 19, 2016, 09:48:56 AM

And that's the main difference between atheist and religious: atheists have their own goals, religious follow a higher goal/guideline, which is god.


Do we need to take care about atheists purposes?

Are you an atheist?


Best regards.




No I'm an agnostic. Which is slightly different though we have in common to not follow this incredibly stupid and full of insanity book of the faith which is the Bible (but don't worry the others sacred books are at the same level of inconsistency and nonsense Wink ) and it seems that you have a problem with that...
And I was not arguing with you here, but explaining that atheists have their own purposes and don't follow any arbitrary God rules that's all. You don't have to care about atheists goals as you seem to follow only the sacred laws written 2 millenias ago...
3667  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: January 19, 2016, 09:45:45 AM

There is absolutely no link between that and any kind of religion...

How about that and the kind of England: Queen Elizabeth II?


Best regards.

I don't understand your sentence. I suppose you wanted to write "the king of England" but she's a queen so I'm not even sure you wanted to say that.
And I don't see the link between your sentence and what I've said... I explained that atheists follow their own rules and goals, and that their main purpose is to be happy and loved. What's the link with the queen of England?
3668  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: January 19, 2016, 09:41:15 AM

A person who is a vegetable might not have any goal to be happy. But if you have any kind of a goal, you have religion according to some of the definitions of what religion is.


May you define your notion of religion then? Because maybe we disagree on the definition and that's all. And as it is a very complex notion, it might be possible.



Don't tell me that an atheist is outside the universe. If an atheist has purpose and is in the universe at the same time, then the universe has purpose. Nobody knows whether or not the universe is a thinking entity that has purpose of itself. But the fact that people in the universe have self-designed purpose, makes it impossible for the universe to NOT have purpose.


And that's the main difference between atheist and religious: atheists have their own goals, religious follow a higher goal/guideline, which is god.

And what you're saying is wrong, I understand what you're trying to explain but that's not true Smiley
There is more than 7 billion people. Each of them have their own goals. So what is the purpose of the universe then? The average one? The most common one?
If there was only one human then I would understand your point, from his point of view his goals would be the only one existing in the universe. But that's not the case.
3669  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: January 19, 2016, 09:03:33 AM

Purpose indicate a meaning an objective that a group of people have in regarding to something (deity, money, health, other...).

Atheists don't believe in God but they don't have a faith: so the word purpose has no meaning to them.


You know that. I know that. Try explaining that to BADecker.

Look, even if atheist all thought that the universe doesn't have a purpose - not all of them think this way -

Yes, they do. If the universe has a purpose it must have a creator. If you believe in a creator, you're not atheist.

Does an atheist do anything in the universe? Does an atheist dream? Does he make plans? Does he use the things of the universe? For him the universe has a purpose. If it didn't, he would go off and commit suicide out of despair. If he didn't commit suicide out of despair, and the universe didn't have a purpose for him - at least in his own mind - he would have to be a vegetable.

An atheist views himself as god, although he may not recognize that he is doing so. Since he doesn't know much about himself - the way-down-deep human self that he is - yet he believes that he knows, he has a personal religion going.

Smiley

What you're saying is extremely arrogant for talking for each and everyone of us.

An atheist is someone thinking there is no purpose in the universe. But does it mean he has to commit suicide out of dispair? No of course not. Because thinking there is no purpose to the universe doesn't mean you can't have any will or any purpose yourself.

You don't have to follow a divine guideline to be happy, to just understand the basic satisfaction of love and good health. That's the goal of most of us: to find someone to love and be happy.

There is absolutely no link between that and any kind of religion...
3670  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Free accounts for everyone! Spotify, Netflix, Brazzers, Zenmate VPN, etc on: January 19, 2016, 08:16:49 AM
can i get one zenmate VPN ?

i just want to know if someone here already received their account or not ?

Seems like there is no more account to give away =)

But he sent some accounts to the first who asked!
3671  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best trading places on: January 19, 2016, 08:10:42 AM
Hey guys! Thanks for your answers.

I never went on Kraken, I was on CEX, BTCE and Yobit. But I've got to say that the features on Kraken seem amazing!

Gonna try that, thanks again.
3672  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Without government, would there actually be more theft from the rich? on: January 19, 2016, 07:04:54 AM
Just addressing your statement that people have to be exploited or go hungry or go without shelter.

Being in the US we have more opportunities than the rest of the world, mostly due to more tyrannical governments in the other countries that do not respect property rights.
it might also be due to the minimum wage legislation, housing projects, food and rent subsidies and other government measures libertarians describe as "theft"

No of course not. It's just because we have a strong property right. Nothing to do with socialism whatsoever. Nothing.  Grin
3673  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Without government, would there actually be more theft from the rich? on: January 19, 2016, 07:03:47 AM
Do you have to be a millionaire to have shelter and food?
you have to be paid at least enough money to be able to afford them, which many workers in menial jobs are not, which is why government "theft" on behalf of poor workers exists

Considering over 2 billion people in the world survive on less than $3 per day, most people can afford food and shelter. Taking a job where you feel you are "exploited" is not a requirement for not going hungry.

Oh, wonderful dumb comment.
"afford food and shelter" means nothing. Which kind of food and shelter? Yes most people can afford rotten food and eating the exact same cereal day after day. Which leads to malnutrition and early death. Yes most people have a "shelter". It mostly consists in just a bunch of garbages assembled into a house shape but it doesn't rain on their head if it's what you mean. Well that doesn't mean they won't die of cold cause there is nothing to protect them from that but still.

People can afford "food and shelter" as you say. For sure. Just eat the dirt and live under a bridge. Won't cost you 1$!

Or be like this guy who has no job who is richer than all of us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF9TNM9R-iw

Oh yeah? And where do you find the 20k$ needed for the boat he has? With his incredible 1200$ camera he sure never had money...  Roll Eyes
You're one of those dumbass saying that "it's perfectly normal if 1% of the world has more than 99%, cause it means everyone can go to the top" no?

If you do some research you'll find boats like his for free quite often. I get messages at least once a week about someone giving away a boat. People get tired of paying dock fees and just give them away. I have a friend that got one similar for doing some lawn work for a guy.

And for the "dumbass" comment I welcome you to my ignore list.

Well thanks for the introduction. Seems like you won't see this answer but you know what? If "lots of your firends" are giving out boats for free, then you and your friends are all rich dumbasses. You don't get a boat like this for free, that's just a lie. You get boats like this in such a poor state it's cheaper to buy a new one than to repair it for free yes, but not a functionnal boat.

And you may find me insulting or rude, but I find your stupidity insulting sir.
3674  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 19, 2016, 06:57:04 AM
Quote
What a marvelous discussion we have here xD
You're right, its a been a real roller coaster.  I have put together a montage of my reactions as I read the thread.
 Angry Sad Shocked Shocked  CryShocked Smiley Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Cool  Cry Undecided  Tongue Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Wink Lips sealed Kiss Cheesy Wink Smiley Kiss Grin

Seems like we lost our time buddy. I don't know if they're trolls or just completely stupid, but I understand why Reddit closed their thread. Seeing something like that really makes you lose faith in humanity xD


Don't lose faith in humanity. This thread will not be forbidden to you. Ever. You are free to express and share ideas anytime, 24/7.

 Cool


By the way what happened since the Paris Global Hoax Climate change caviar party... Anyone knows?





I understand your very American need of free speech, and I respect that. But free speech by itself seems totally useless to me. It's great to be able to speak as you wish, but if it's to see a bunch of people talking total nonsense without any kind of proof and just persuading each other, I don't really see how it should reassure me  Embarrassed

And the Paris party has nothing to do with all that, it's just a political party. They're here to tell the people "see, we're taking care of you" and they will pollute even more... But that's exactly like the dozens of false promises of our politicians.

....and they will pollute even more.... I hope you´re not referring to CO2 as pollution. Plants rely on it and they are the basis of all life on this planet.

Do you want to get ignored too? Cause that's how you get ignored!

I'll give you a clue! Humans need oxygene in the exact same way plants need CO2 ok? And you know what happens if I double the rate of oxygene in the air you breath? YOU DIE!

It's exactly the same thing for each and every element, and too much CO2 leads to plants literaly dying of suffocation. Though it's not the main problem of CO2 pollution, but you're maybe in the same guideline as the others idiots explaining that "NASA is lying that's all"...
3675  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 19, 2016, 06:54:12 AM

Hmm...What I've done above is show you where one of the main perps admits they are lying.  I agree, you didn't QUOTE Trenberth.  You just used him as an authoritative source.  And he's basically said they were all lying.   There's a lot more like that.

As for 0.33 warming in the graph, please get real.  The question is "statistically significant warming."  In any series of measurements, there is error.  Statistics 101 shows how to look at the variance, and determine if it may be considered as different from zero.  This cannot be considered different from zero.



No what you've done before is writing a sentence stating he lied. Again no proof of any kind. If I write " Spendulus wrote a mail in which he stated that he loved bananas" it doesn"t mean that you love bananas.
...

What do you want, a link to the Climategate email base, and them within that a link to Trenberth's emails?

And then what?  Are you denying the requirement for "statistically significance?"

Because if you are doing that, you have no place discussing science whatsoever.

Seems like we don't have the same definition because as far as I saw there IS a fucking statistically significant rise! That's why I was trying to agree with you on a defenition of going up... A mathematical one.

And I don't care about how you prove what you're saying, but just writing a sentence in which you say he's lying is not a proof. Otherwise I could do the same here:

"Didn't you here about Total which managed to lobby so strong that they made people believe CO2 is good for the planet? Here is what theyr wrote in a mail:
Dude, it's incredible how CO2 is going to fuck everything up, but the good point is that as we control the media we'll be able to make America actually believe it's good for the planet, as it's what the plants need to survive LOL!"

Just putting it in italics is not exactly a proof you know...
3676  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 18, 2016, 05:37:55 PM
Quote
What a marvelous discussion we have here xD
You're right, its a been a real roller coaster.  I have put together a montage of my reactions as I read the thread.
 Angry Sad Shocked Shocked  CryShocked Smiley Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Cool  Cry Undecided  Tongue Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Wink Lips sealed Kiss Cheesy Wink Smiley Kiss Grin

Seems like we lost our time buddy. I don't know if they're trolls or just completely stupid, but I understand why Reddit closed their thread. Seeing something like that really makes you lose faith in humanity xD


Don't lose faith in humanity. This thread will not be forbidden to you. Ever. You are free to express and share ideas anytime, 24/7.

 Cool


By the way what happened since the Paris Global Hoax Climate change caviar party... Anyone knows?





I understand your very American need of free speech, and I respect that. But free speech by itself seems totally useless to me. It's great to be able to speak as you wish, but if it's to see a bunch of people talking total nonsense without any kind of proof and just persuading each other, I don't really see how it should reassure me  Embarrassed

And the Paris party has nothing to do with all that, it's just a political party. They're here to tell the people "see, we're taking care of you" and they will pollute even more... But that's exactly like the dozens of false promises of our politicians.
3677  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 18, 2016, 05:28:45 PM

Hmm...What I've done above is show you where one of the main perps admits they are lying.  I agree, you didn't QUOTE Trenberth.  You just used him as an authoritative source.  And he's basically said they were all lying.   There's a lot more like that.

As for 0.33 warming in the graph, please get real.  The question is "statistically significant warming."  In any series of measurements, there is error.  Statistics 101 shows how to look at the variance, and determine if it may be considered as different from zero.  This cannot be considered different from zero.



No what you've done before is writing a sentence stating he lied. Again no proof of any kind. If I write " Spendulus wrote a mail in which he stated that he loved bananas" it doesn"t mean that you love bananas.

I don't know how it is possible Oo
Do we have the same definition of "going up"? Can't you see that each and EVERY ONE of the graphs you showed are actually going up? Without stopping? And by all I really mean ALL!!!

I'm really astonished, it's like pointing to the sky saying "it's blue" and you answer me no it's dark green. I don't think we'll be able to go any further from here xD

Ok maybe let's define what "going up" means. You're talking about the last two decades ok? So the values concerned are those from 1994 to 2014 we're good on that? (I don't put 2015 as it's just finished) Now what do you say about the definition of "going up" as "the graph can be approximate by a linear curve with a positive growth"? Or define "going up" yourself!
3678  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 18, 2016, 02:32:21 PM
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So... My chart coming directly from NASA measurements is lying, but the graph coming from a website with more porno adds than actual text, not giving ONE SINGLE SOURCE is telling the truth?

Do you want to talk about denying now?
Yes.  You really don't even know what the Met is?

First no I don't know what it is, never heard of it. And can't find it on google by typing met so not that famous whatever it is.

Second, it doesn't matter, there isn't any source in the article, it's not because i write "Spendulus said blahblah" that it's true. Next time gives directly the MET report whatever it is if that's your argument. I didn't give you a dubious shitty article of the worst French newspapper, I gave you directly the NASA result.

I think the MET is the British Meteorological society?  Or their weather agency...

Well if that's the case sorry if I don't know the name of the weather agency of your country... Can't know all of them xD

And met agrees with me as it seems:
http://www.rmets.org/weather-and-climate/climate/has-global-warming-stalled

Seems like they do measure a fucking huge rise trend. Don't know if you can read a graph though...

You are going to quote Trenberth?

Here is what he said in private - as shown by the Climategate emails.

Kevin Trenberth to Micheal Mann on Mon, 12 Oct 2009 and copied to most of the leading academics...(Cc: Stephen H Schneider , Myles Allen , peter stott , “Philip D. Jones” , Benjamin Santer , Tom Wigley , Thomas R Karl , Gavin Schmidt , James Hansen , Michael Oppenheimer. )


The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.


So yes, Trenberth was a liar.

Can't we get real about this stuff?  There is clearly both a political and a scientific part to it all.

Don't know who he is and you're not giving me any proof. I'm not quoting anyone, I just linked you to the met graph as you were saying that met explained that there is no global warming...

I'm trying to find YOUR source as you don't give me any proof... Can we just get to the scientific part yeah? Show me ONE report, graph or anything proving your point. Please a real one, not something from the daily mail...

Huh

Trenberth wrote the article you linked to....

http://wattsupwiththat.com/global-temperature/

Also, laughably, Trenberth was on the Global Cooling bandwagon before he got on the Global Warming bandwagon.  Well, YOU quoted him....

see in the link to temperature series...

UAH Lower Atmosphere Temperature Anomalies – 1979 to Present

So yeah.  Now why did Reddit Climate ban deniers?

LOL...

I was not quoting him, to quote is to take one's words, I just put a link to his article because I wanted you to look at the graph from the met that had nothing to do with what you showed me.

Well your graph just prove my point dude! You were saying there was no warming in the last two decades, well the graph shows there is a +0.33 warming! It's even writen on it? You can't read?

And the other 20 graphs you linked to show the fucking incredible warming since 1979... Thanks for proving my point!

And yeah you got banned because you say totally nonsense and ignore facts under the dubious reason that "NASA is lying that's all". Yeah, NASA, and also every weather institute.
3679  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 18, 2016, 02:16:25 PM

The NASA-Files

So how is it not having tv and internet? Cause it'"s also NASA work you know?
3680  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 18, 2016, 02:05:01 PM
Looks at those fucking pictures, I just proved that NASA are liars!

Dude you're serious? Nobody can be this dumb surely? You're not real?

You call those real photographs of Earth? You're the retard here if you believe that!

Ok. You're the first user I ignore but you really deserve it.

So much stupidity and bullshit in only one person. That's scary! The problem being that people like you actually vote  Cry

Your faith and belief in the high priests of NASA is greater than any extremist religious zealot out there!

Was waiting for your answer. I give you one last chance of proving that stupidity has limits.

Answering the question I managed to read on your picture:
-Here is a video of earth spinning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVuqcEuIRgs
-Color of the ocean highly depends on the season, which part of the ocean you photograph, the average temperature, the density of clouds. Those are just the major factors, there are lots more to deal with but if you'd manage to get all those parameters identical, you would have something rather correct.
-how big is America is totally dependent on where you're looking from! The Earth is round, so any part of the ball appears bigger or smaller depending on how you watch it! The photos you're showing are never taken from the same angle so OF COURSE America is not the same size, the contrary would mean that Earth is not round you dumbass.

And I don't remember the other questions, but you got the idea.

And if you don't trust NASA, I bet you don't use airplanes? Cause they work solely on NASA measurements for flights.
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