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3661  Economy / Reputation / Re: Discussion- Sending feedback from main and alt account on: August 29, 2020, 10:46:05 PM
I'll be able to make a fuller post when I am home tomorrow.

Although we are using the hilarious*/ hilariousetc / hilariousandco trio of alts as our example in this thread, I'll give you the example of Bruno who, after many years had built up multiple alts (all well known) with distinct profile names then sold at least one of them and it changed hands an unknown number of times before falling into the ownership of suchmoon.

Now to put into context what I'm about to say , this is my mobile alts default trust as we speak: https://loyce.club/trust/2020-08-29_Sat_05.07h/2640757.html

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Trust list for: Timelord2o67 (Trust: neutral) (18 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-08-29_Sat_05.07h)
Back to index

Timelord2o67 Trusts these users' judgement:
-

Timelord2o67 Distrusts these users' judgement:
-


Timelord2o67's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Timelord2067 (Trust: +8 / =6 / -1) (470 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~Timelord2o67's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. Foxpup (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 1010 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. ibminer (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (807 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. suchmoon (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (33) 4469 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. nutildah (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 2576 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. NEW o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (4686 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. dragonvsandroid (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (3 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

Discounting the most recent addition who has done so in support of the hilarious*/ hilariousetc / hilariousandco trio of alts distasteful satire which has been addressed elsewhere, all of the rest who distrust my mobile alt have done so on the pretext of preventing my mobile alt's trust feedbacks (all twelve of them) or my DT trust/distrust (of which there is none) from showing up on default trust given my main alt trusts my mobile alt which I did after reading the example given by LoyceV and cited by others in this thread. (I would have been happy with more than just LoyceV placing a NEUTRAL trust feedback on my mobile alts page, but that's just me)

From a quick glance some of these users' DT support one or the other of the two main alts in our given example. That makes their actions hypocritical in that they Default Trust both main alts for one person while using the reasoning another user's alt should be distrusted. (Unless of course their DT trusts were placed that long ago they just haven't given any thought to the repocussions of DT trusting two alts.?)

Perhaps we flip a coin and settle which of the trio of alts should be automatically distrusted to make the UID unmarketable because if Bruno can sell a universally recognisable alt secretly, then it's a very real thing that the trio of alts in our example can also quietly sell one or the other of their lucrative alts.
3662  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT Trust abuse & trust feedback abuse ~ on: August 29, 2020, 10:09:55 PM
Please keep your comments on topic, thank you.




The Southampton FC has this to say about Equality:

https://www.southamptonfc.com/-/media/files/supporter-relations/11c-equality-policy-2017.pdf

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Equality Statement

St Mary’s Football Group and its subsidiary companies (the “Group”) endorses the principle of
equality and strives to ensure that everyone who wishes to be involved in the Group whether
as players, match day fans, staff, Board members, participants on our programmes and other
people engaged with the Group’s activities (for example, suppliers and corporate partners):


  • Has a genuine and equal opportunity to participate to the full extent of their own
    ambitions and abilities, without regard to their age, disability, gender reassignment,
    marital or civil partnership status, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex
    and sexual orientation; and
  • Can be assured of an environment in which their rights, dignity and individual worth
    are respected In particular, that they are able to enjoy their engagement with the Group
    without the threat of intimidation, victimisation, harassment, bullying and abuse.


Further reading on their website: https://www.southamptonfc.com/supporter-services/policies-and-charters




Given the person, the subject of this thread, and at least one of their alts wears the major corporate sponsors' logo for the Southampton FC, I can't help but wonder why this post of mine would be deleted:

Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

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Weekly Update(link)

Most of the open campaigns (from last week) are moved to closed. Blender removed once again and lastly we've got Bitpr0 the newly added campaign in the list.

Sportsbet's campaign thread is locked for quite some time but the campaign is still active i've checked the spreadsheet.   Smiley


Sports Bet seems to be the only signature Campaign that allows alts to participate in their campaign judging by the information in the Spread Sheet.

As you can see there is a potential conflict of interest between the Global Moderator hilariousandco and the Southampton FC via their jointly being sponsored by the same betting website.
3663  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT Trust abuse & trust feedback abuse ~ on: August 29, 2020, 09:47:10 PM
Although this is becoming off topic I will respond by saying your recollection is grossly incorrect and misleading.

If you had proof of any of your claims you would have started a thread a year ago when you were so greatly wounded by my non DT NEUTRAL trust feedback.

But in the end isn't that what this thread is about? Those on DT who have received NEUTRAL non DT trust feedback from me cowering behind their position on DT to force me to change or remove my NEUTRAL trust feedback.?

Your post just above implies you were keen to work with me and in your faulty recollection I "cut that off" (aside from why would I do that? when I'm the one with everything to gain?) I made literally dozens (a hundred?) of modifications to my trust feedback on the basis of what you said, so much so that although Last of the V8s reacted negatively (by giving me DT distrust) to my questions in their bid to become a merit source (which I am still keeping an open mind about) they (Last of the V8s…) placed a NEUTRAL comment on my trust feedback wall:

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Started giving more accurate feedback when prompted

Which tells me the work you and I did has been noticed by others.

So ... If you are  still really that burned up that you want to work with me, why don't we recommence working on that "project" (for want of a better term?.) That way you won't need to "pull me up" or, "take me to task" on my trust feedback (my words, not yours) which is now quite old - multiple years old infact given I have taken a mostly hands off approach to the Known Alts thread since I started the Mk III thread.

Come on suchmoon, let's work together.
3664  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT Trust abuse & trust feedback abuse ~ on: August 29, 2020, 11:55:42 AM
I would just like to point out to suchmoon that we had discussed their working with me on any perceived "inaccurate" trust feedback I may have given only to have suchmoon reneg on that agreement prior to the 5th of September last year which is this "project" I allude to in this NEUTRAL trust feedback I placed on their wall last year:

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I see now that when suchmoon sent multiple PM's to me over the last nearly six months asking to work on a project with me that he was in effect stringing me along and giving me lip service and that he actually in effect had no desire at all to help me.

You can't have it both ways suchmoon - backing out of working with me then posting here that you DT distrust them for inaccurate trust feedback.  That makes you a hypocrite suchmoon.




As to the accused's comment above I could split hairs on what they said, but instead I'll refer readers to the timeline of events as posted above.

Any spelling mistakes are due to my mobile phones auto correct. I hope to be home in about 36 hours and will clarify/correct any comments made by me then.
3665  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT Trust abuse & trust feedback abuse ~ on: August 29, 2020, 08:49:30 AM
...

As I have pointed out previously, all prior trust feedbacks have been NEUTRAL with the exception of the last which was after the accused had left negative trust feedback on my trust feedback page.

Please check and confirm.

... and I note your quote of yourself talks only of negative trustfeedback.
3666  Economy / Reputation / Re: I've been the victim of a hate crime. on: August 29, 2020, 08:38:07 AM
Defamation aside...

It's that time of the thread where I point out the irony of the OP's use of the word "he" towards myself when attempting to take the higher ground in both the op's first post and subsequent posts.

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3667  Economy / Lending / Re: Free lightning tests on: August 29, 2020, 12:45:18 AM
It kept failing (about 4 times on my phone and 3 on the PC and now it's just worked). I'll send a repayment request momenterily:



It worked!

I'll check back in half an hour to get the repayment details.

Many thanks.
3668  Economy / Lending / Re: Free lightning tests on: August 29, 2020, 12:21:21 AM
Hello again,

I've just updated from Eclair Ver 4.1(0) to Ver 4.12 and my connections seem to be in all the time (finally)

Can I send a payment request (set for six hours) and will update in six hours if you haven't come back online by then with a new six hour request, please?

Code:
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

Thanks again.
3669  Economy / Reputation / Re: Discussion- Sending feedback from main and alt account on: August 28, 2020, 10:27:50 PM
IIRC @darkstar_ removed the circular default trust in their alt to avoid a perception of bias after a conversation I was having with @LoyceV about tomatocage trusting his mobile alt who in turn trusted (I may be recalling who it was inaccurately and will correct this post if I am mistaken) @quickseller who in turn trusted tomatocage in a circular DT trust ring.

A number of DT are distrusting my mobile alt on the basis of preventing it from giving DT feedback (including at least one contributor in this thread, so I am watching to see if they now contradict themselves)

While I appreciate the sincerity of the OP in starting this thread, it dilutes the discussion in that thread.  I don't intend to participate in this thread further except to thank those who have already voted with their tildas.
3670  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT Trust abuse & trust feedback abuse ~ on: August 28, 2020, 09:55:07 PM
As I write I can confirm the accused continues to abuse me with two DT 1/2 negative trust feedbacks, so the issue remains unresolved.

As I stated in the OP I am away this weekend and can't give a lengthy response to any questions.

To respond to the accused's questions in brief, no trust feed back by me prior to this week on their trust feedback page has been anything but neutral advising they have alts . Information that was already known. I ask all readers to peruse my posts on thir three feedback pages to confirm at no time prior to this week have my posts on those pages been inaccurate.

I have already canvased the one NEUTRAL post by my mobile alt in a previous Post in this thread
3671  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT Trust abuse & trust feedback abuse ~ on: August 28, 2020, 09:17:27 AM
My "shit" post was a neutral feedback by my alt which like my main alt has multiple DT distrusts and was a response to the abuser literally posting off topic shit images in a thread of mine that had recently been revived.

The abuser was Trolling and I have requested they remove their off topic posts, but my request has fallen on deaf ears.
3672  Economy / Reputation / Re: DT Trust abuse & trust feedback abuse ~ on: August 28, 2020, 09:03:23 AM
Thank you for both of your replies, this is my weekend away (and I've just arrived at my destination just now) so I will provide information late Sunday my time. The most recent posts of mine were in the Bitcointalk interview thread. (As such are only days old).

If you look at the link in the most recent feedback against me you will see they have responded hours later with further posts and then more than a day later have decided they are going to take offense at what I said by placing negative trust feedback on my trust feedback page but only after. I finally yielded to giving their three UID's identical negative feedback from this my main UID.

It should be noted that a no time previously have I ever given this person negative trust feedback .

My first feedback (neutral) was that they have alts which is already widly known.

This set them off on their DT distrust and then more recently their multiple alt negative feedback .

In all honesty, had they just used one alt for this feedback barrage, then I would have just shrugged my shoulders and said "oh well" as I've had recent negatives but have not made any noise about them.




If someone wanted to be a go between for this person to work through why my identifying their already known alts is burning them up all these years later, then I'll be happy to discuss that via PM's to resolve the issue.
3673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greatest Gambling Losers on: August 28, 2020, 05:14:57 AM
It'll be interesting to hear if there's a big (hundred thousand or more dollar) wager on the Brisbane Broncos Rugby League team to either win or loose in the next few games they have left to play this season (more so if the wager goes the wrong way and is a loss to the punter concerned)
3674  Economy / Reputation / Re: suchmoon is trolling people topics and leaving negative feedbacks for no reason on: August 28, 2020, 05:06:02 AM
There's a lot of it going on at the moment and I've tried to talk to suchmoon without success even having others "suggest" I stop attempting to reach out to them to resolve whatever it is they think I'm supposed to have done wrong, only to have suchmoon outright reject my attempts at reconciliation.

You're going to have to get used to the rough ride that's going on by DT Trolls at the moment.
3675  Economy / Reputation / DT Trust abuse & trust feedback abuse ~ on: August 28, 2020, 04:39:52 AM
The two UID's shown below are engaging in DT trust abuse as one or both are DT 1 or 2 thereby their twin personalities' negatives both show up as evidenced in the user profile page.



This person has attempted to silence me in the past with their regular attacks as well as their DT distrust abuse as a means of silencing me, now they are using multiple alts to further attack me.

This person is well know for having deleted my posts on a whim whenever it suits themselves, as evidenced in their having recently deleted my posts in the bitcointalk interview thread, or, to change the narrative of a discussion to make it look as though I have not responded in other threads, which is not the case.




Local rules, this thread is self moderated to prevent third party attacks against myself.  If this thread magically becomes non-self moderated then that will be taken as further proof of their abuse of their admin/mod position and I will start a new self moderated thread and lock this one.
3676  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BETA] BPIP Extension - user info add-on / extension for Firefox, Chrome, et al on: August 28, 2020, 12:08:36 AM
I think I might go back to using Netscape Navigator 4.78 for a while and see how I go.



😎
3677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Space Race Wagers? on: August 27, 2020, 08:57:16 PM
What's far more likely is that a base or bases together with mining for water / fuel at the Luna Poles will have been underway for years to build interplanetary exploration. Why I say that is due to the sheer amount of fuel needed to leave the planet/ low Earth orbit.

Once on Mars I think there'll be numerous mining ventures start up partly for the return trip and partly  to avoid home planet regulations on environmental protection.

(And it'll probably be a corporation not a government that gets to Mars first)
3678  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: UK hospital launches rehab programme for bitcoin addiction on: August 27, 2020, 05:36:58 PM
I can only imagine the NHS has been scrambling to find things to pour their efforts into with the wave of Covid cases slowly declining in those countries.
3679  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Whale Sold at $12,000 After 2 Years HODLing on: August 27, 2020, 05:35:05 PM
If the Whale really has sold their bag, imagine what the "next big thing" they are putting the funds into are and what the returns they hope to get out of those?
3680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this considered cheating? or Ilegal? on: August 27, 2020, 05:27:39 PM
When playing in a betting site some users did not verify if the system is really provably fair. Because the gambler have gained so much trust to site that they use to play. In my view, this is considered cheating and illegal if found manipulate the game output since a player can check and confirm game fairness. Also, may I know if possible what betting site is this.

When you walk into a real live Casino, do you ask the person at the front door if they are a "provably fair" Casino, or, do you show your fake I.D. and head to the bar before hitting the tables?
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