bub·ble ˈbəb(ə)l/noun
2.used to refer to a good or fortunate situation that is isolated from reality or unlikely to last. "we both lived in a bubble, the kind provided by occupying a privileged pied-ŕ-terre in Greenwich Village"
I'm in the same boat as you Marvel1, but trading vs adding to my farm as I'm waiting for the pop so I can buy up the cheap gpu's from those needing to pay off credit card bills; bank loans; rent for warehouse space they can no longer but locked into a lease; paying back their 401(k); payment on the 2nd mortgage they took out on their home.....
can't believe what people are risking hoping the price stays high....
yup exactly im actually selling gpus rather than buying, also sold 3 baiikal asics for 2900 after paying only 900 for them. Ppl i know are taking out loans or mortgaging cribs or lines of credit to mine rather than buying cheap couns or icos is crazy to spend so much on mining rigs when video card prices are so inflated, make a stack off icos. or trading , understand the value of the assets you are actuslly mining instead of blindly going all in
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Everyone was a noob at one time. I initially looked into mining BTC early last year but decided it was not worth it. Took me many months later to discover alt coins and a much bigger picture in the cryptospace. I look at mining as a way to supplement my bi-weekly coin purchases. Really looking to mine and hold.......Profit taking should come much later. If the price stays consistent (not likely) or goes up, mining is profitable. If it all comes crashing down I buy more coins......rinse and repeat. ^ This mine and hold at least 2/3 if you can , at the very least keep half, lol Im not knocking newbies its the timing im knocking Im sure alot of ppl were just lurkers out here never thought about mining prices have been good for over a year now and it took eth to $300 for most of these new miners get interested
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The reason that I am getting into it is because I saw an article about the price of bitcoin - as I'm sure many newbies did. I remembered that I had a small amount of bitcoin in a coinbase account that I created about a year and half ago. I logged in and saw that my balance was about 6 times the original amount.
I recently quit my job and am looking for some passive income. This will not be my only income - just supplemental. The money I'm putting into my rigs is all from two real estate sales profits from earlier this year.
I'm going to build 6 rigs. I'm considering selling 2 or 3 of them to reduce my cash invested and mine various coins and let them just accumulate.
I don't believe it's too late to start. There are over 700 currencies, so there is opportunity.
I do wish I had started back when you did, but circumstance back then wouldn't allow the investment.
Congrats to you on your success.
Im not succesful just have a small farm suplementing my income all im saying is mining is like maybe 1/3 of the way to make money in this crypto boom you need to suplement this with trading investing in Icos buying low selling high or just holding some of the good assets. I make more from Ico,s and trading selling on paxful for 20 percent profit than i make mining not saying its too late , but mining should be only one of your focuses , the main issue right now for new miners is the rising price of cards and hardware and flat out dissapearance of Rx cards. I feel likw even if the scarcity ends (which i doubt for a few months) prices will remain high which benefit large farms who source in bulk and those who have already roied
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Seems like everyone and thier mama is trying to build a rig to mine ether 😃😃 Kinda feel bad for these late commers even the ones with deep pockets , If they had jumped on board say three to six months ago they would be in way better shape now with cards hard to find difficulty rising like crazy creating a few rigs to hedge is not a terrible idea but you have a better chance to make money buy buying into the eth based icos or buying related tokens low selling high on the pump and dump waves.
all my 45 rigs are paid for so mining and expanding is trivial for me , i have around 50 cards i bought back when the rx 500s launched that i dont even have the electricity to power that i listed on ebay for $580 a card and they are SELLING 😂😂
the current state of this forum is hillarious to me. I made 30k on the augur Ico, 10k on waves sold both way way too low , learned from my mistakes I hope all these newbs dont get burned
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i've been mining ether + sia. try lots of algorithm but i think most profitable is stay in a algo. Am i wrong?
same here eth plus sia with neg 200 core and 600 plus mem power limit 65 120 watt per card
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So I have been picking up 1070s , 4 every few days from Micro center, today I saw a big sign on the store door stating that from here on out only two of each card type or brand will be allowed per household EVER! Basically you cant buy two , come back in a few days and grab another two anymore.
I talked to the sales manager on duty and he stated it was a directive from the Chinese Authorities to Nvidia and AMD due to the fact that miners in China are seeing card shortages for their mega farms and since most cards are made in China and Taiwan China has changed the rules only allowing a few cards to be shipped out of the plants till further notice.
This could explain why we see the global hash-rates rising for Eth , Zec and other profitable coins when there seems to be a shortage of cards , I get the feeling they are diverting a lot of the stock that should come to stores and suppliers here since they want control of ETH just as they have controlled BTC and since ETH is a bit more decentralized due to the fact all the mining hardware is not made by one Giant Chinese company the are panicking and locking down exports.
Now you can take all this with a grain of salt but , the manager directly expressed to me that their Nvidia Rep explained it was China basically telling them that they see the Video cards exported as basically money leaving the country since they are not just for gaming they are actually tools for creating wealth so they updated the guidance accordingly.
Crazy huh? What this tells me is you should grab any and all cards you can because once these changes hit other suppliers we could see extreme limits on even Nvidia cards down the line until the Chinese mega farms have had their fill.
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its not even the cost of installing it, i am adding 600 amp service to my gargage single phase but they still need a separate transformer forcthat much. load they install it for free but you need a city permit for the tansformer and that can be denied or take months to aprove I had them go ahead with the permit request a d they chaarged me $300 for the permit said it it was approved there would be no further charges
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with european power costs u should have went with 1070s
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No you cannot dual mine zec, because it uses both GPU and memory. You can only dual mine effectivelly when one algo uses ONLY GPU and second ONLY memory. All in all, nvidia cards are not that good in dual mine, so it is usually very barely worth it.
um its always worth it, i get 29 mhs eth and 290 sia for 120. watt on 1070 also 29 mhs and 400 dcr, if u dual mine its basically the same profits as zec most of the time eth plus lbry would be real profit right now too
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watch out they are deleting posts btw, starting to look scammy man
Which post did they delete? My tab has been open for weeks, and every time I refresh the page I've noticed zero messages deleted? What message would they delete? And why? What was in those messages? I am seeing a coordinated effort of irrational FUD, perhaps from people who want to buy cheap. This thread is not self-moderated and it's impossible for the OP to remove posts off his own bat. I don't think it was an attempt to bash a coin or anything like that but in average people started to pay more attention to alts and lean their support to the most promising projects. Nice to see altcoins being on the rise. there was a post about why they are taking so long are they trying to colonize mars and it got deleted aling with all replies, it was funny but still a legitimate question , waves went live in three months even augur released their tokens in 8 months There is no reason for the tokens not to be released to buyers for this long
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I'd not touch those b stock cards with a 10 foot pole man... a 1 year warranty on a $200+ card is the definition of gambling, plus the card was refurbished to begin with, so they have a history of problems ? last time i bought used video cards in bulk from a supposedly reputable seller online all my cards died after six months of heavy mining, they barely paid for themsleves are are now sitting in the trash and I only paid 125 per card. Paying 350+ is maddness man
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With the inflated price of hardware the average 6x GPU rig has went from around $1600 (6 RX480/580's, 1000 W PSU, CPU, Mobo, SDD, Risers, etc.) to nearly $2,000. Considering the network hash-rate and difficulty is also increasing at a rapid rate, any sustained downtrend in the coin prices will be hitting these recent sub-optimal rigs hard, and even be putting the hurt on ROI times for the more optimal rigs as well.
The current "correction" may be temporary, but should Ethereum drop back to the $40-50 range (which was excellent profitability just 2 months ago) , the ROI on the above rig would exceed 365 days, or one year. The problem with such a rapid run-up in price and the concurrent on-boarding of new miners makes it almost mandatory for the price to continue to inflate at the same rate to keep up. Once this stops the effects are compounded and those rosy 60-70 day ROI projections are going to quickly turn into year+ endeavors.
The purpose of this post is not to necessarily discourage getting into mining, but more to caution against just blindly throwing money at anything can can produce a hash-rate and think it is going to pay off. RX560's will be hard pressed soon to even turn a profit. Wait a month or two and I suspect a lot mining hardware will be plentiful and cheap on ebay and elsewhere.
typical fake news doomsday post , eth will never drop below $180 again In the near future too many ppl waiting to scoop up cheap eth if thst happens just shut up man just be honest and say u dont want anyone to join the goldrush you sir are pathetic ethe to $40? come on bro. I do agree that rx 560 are worthles for mining eth, look on ebay for 390s and nanos if you can find them , or wait for cards to be restocked
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thats a good question i have around 300 rx 570 470 480 and 580 mix 100 sitting idle right now , should i sell them for 1070s since i can get $360 per card for em hmm
btw no pms pls
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I have a very simple plan for you.
Come to Turkey. I have free electricity, 24 / 7 security, and it would be a reasonable expectation for you to recoup your investment within 2-3 months.
On my free electricity setup I'm just charging 10 % of profits, we can set up everything for you in Turkei. Let me know.
Best, Vispilio
lol so they can kiddnap u and cut off ur head? no thanks Ill keep my high electicity bills
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We're not even INTO the summer yet - but had 2 heat waves last month that hit 90+ F.
My R9 290 cards were NOT happy - at least 2 of them were thermal throttling due to the fairly poor options for maintaining airflow and cooling in my current (old) place.
Thank goodness I have started to move into the current (new) place - I should have the "runs hot" rigs moved before the NEXT heat wave hits!
8-)
ALl my cards are RX series and Nanos thank god, I tried running 290s in that basement a couple of years ago and it was an even larger disaster. Had to sell them all.
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The summer is the best! Are your rigs overheating?
Not the rigs the basement gets too hot and the main panel over heats so i have to shut down pretty much half of my rigs some of the rigs lose cards due to heat as well, so I'm constantly restarting some of the problem rigs Maybe just send me half your rigs.. i have a cooler country and will treat them right haha Can you cool the main board?? Fan cooling etc? Lol i love my rigs but the summer heat makes managing them a darn full time job ugh, I got my garage finally set up to migrate most of my miners I'll post some pictures when i have time, its a pretty impressive power setup , cooling I have some ideas but no money to implement anything yet. As long as i have a place to move half my rigs to thats all I care about, tired of the main breaking tripping due to thermal overload.
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The GPUs can handle the summer heat.... but not the owners.
Funny thing is the basement exhaust fan i have somehow cools the whole house down quite nicely, unfortunately that single large 3000cfm fan is not enough to keep my mining area cool enough so after around 24 -36 hours the excessive heat build up causes me to shut down my sub-panel.
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The summer is the best! Are your rigs overheating?
Not the rigs the basement gets too hot and the main panel over heats so i have to shut down pretty much half of my rigs some of the rigs lose cards due to heat as well, so I'm constantly restarting some of the problem rigs
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that is all ....
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If you're selling it because of the noise, you should've looked at co-locating. I sent mine off and it's out of my house and I'm paying less in electricity and pay in BTC. 'Sidehack', on this site, hosts ... price is too high bro ,2000 and it will sell
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