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3661  Economy / Speculation / Re: I AM HODLING on: January 30, 2014, 07:06:10 AM
I am struggling as to whether buying is part of the hodling lifestyle.

as long as you make sure to destroy your private key you are good
3662  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists on: January 30, 2014, 05:30:16 AM
I agree with everything here except the part i marked out. So generally we are in agreement on these points. Humans are damaging the planet very severely and I definitely care about that. I don't think the claims in my comment and the claims in your comment are contradictory though.

My main contention was your implication that all serious environmentalists are either part of a "religion" (a term which to me specifically implies rejection of observations in favour of faith in a particular result) or are profiting from the credulity of those who are. It seems we agree on many points as you say.

Re. the global temperature trend, I would refer you to the following, from Mann, Hughes et al:



Which indicates a clear warming trend beginning in the late 19th century (coinciding with the peak of the industrial revolution) that dwarfs fluctuations over a similar time-frame in at least the last millennium. The study is widely considered to be robust, with careful consideration of the limitations of various techniques commonly used. I presume you know that a great wealth of studies have found similar results, so I would ask why you disagree?

I dont find this graph very convincing. Why does it only use tree rings when there are so many more reliable methods available like coral samples and ice cores? Another scientist provided such a graph with a broader data collection methods for submission in the exact same ipcc report which did not show this dramatic hockey stick. Why was the more dramatic graph utilizing less data chosen over the one that was less dramatic with more data? I mean its not like climate scientists would stand to benefit from the public being alarmed by climate statistics or anything, so we know its not that /sarcasm. Why does dr mann suddenly switch to thermometer data as soon as it becomes available? Sure its more accurate data but in order to have an objective comparison you cant simply switch data collection methods half way through the chart. It reeks of lysenkoism.

Of course i could be wrong. In which case its worth pointing out that the benefits of warming would likely outweigh the costs. Presently there is more land rendered uninhabitable due to extreme cold than extreme heat.

*note* i know you didnt claim that the government should attempt to solve this problem. i wanted to point that out so that i dont get accused of strawmaning.

And even if its not the case that we would be made better off from global warming there is still this very strong argument against spending any significant amounts of money on fighting it because it would almost certainly be cheaper to address the issues as they arrive. All we have to do is get the government out of the insurance business and the risk of building on areas which were in danger of being effected by rising sea levels would be priced into the market over night. This would incentive people to move out of flood prone areas long before the flooding became a problem. Additionally erecting man made barricades around cities would almost certainly be cheaper than the net costs of carbon taxes or carbon credit schemes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5Lda06iK0

Its a very complicated issue which is very hard to discover the truth on because there are many perverse incentives at work here mostly resulting from the extent that governments stand to gain from convincing the public of the reality of this mother of all market failure problems. Maybe its real maybe it isnt but it surely isn't as simple as "hey look at my hockey stick, discussion over".
3663  Economy / Economics / Re: Cult of hoarding on: January 30, 2014, 04:26:07 AM
its pronounced "hodling" not "hoarding"
3664  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EXCHANGE] Poloniex - Crypto Exchange with BTC/NXT on: January 30, 2014, 04:13:15 AM
perhaps you might just manually cancel my order for me since nothing is working?
3665  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism does not exist on: January 30, 2014, 02:26:42 AM
Science is the study of ego and spirituality of the soul.  

No, it isn't. I've never studied either of them.

Then you don't understand what they mean.  Ego in this case is the material world.  Soul is what you feel/see from within.

Why don't you just save us all some time and say "anything means everything but also nothing"
3666  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT Ought to be Taken Seriously on: January 30, 2014, 12:12:35 AM
I trust in NXT future. NXT have really quick transaction and very energy efficient. PoS is future. I have buyed 20k coins.
Good luck NXT

nice. good time to buy too with some big stake holder taking massive dumps all day.
3667  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Trading Thread for Nxt :: Descendant of Bitcoin on: January 29, 2014, 10:31:08 PM
Why is NXT falling ? Any problems with NXT ?

we are still at the point where there are stake holders big enough to singlehandedly drive the price down to 0.00001. all that has to happen is for one big whale to decide to dump on the market and the price falls big time. shouldn't surprise anyone. the good news is that this is very good indeed for the long term value proposition of nxt.
3668  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 29, 2014, 10:27:27 PM
do you all like it? not even started ... plenty more to come I hope i don't kill the coin Grin

aweome. drive it down to a price that i feel like buying in at.
3669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 29, 2014, 09:56:07 PM
Why is NXT falling down?
Do you think it will reach 0,00005000 btc again ?

from my observation of the charts it appears to be driven from the supply side. strong demand but big seller(s) taking very large dumps.
3670  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 29, 2014, 08:54:30 PM
With a divide and conquer approach, we might be able to get zerocoin functionality for NXT before zerocoin!

I'm not sure it's not a theft...

its definitely not theft. the idea of theft requires that someone else be deprived of property. copying code doesn't deprive the other person of his copy. i mean maybe its immoral but if so than not because its theft, it would have to be some new moral construct that doesnt have a name yet. something meaning "immoral copying". i vote that we call it flibber.

Or we could just ask them... or ask their permission...

+1

i mean why not be polite about it. no sense in flibbering all over someone elses work unnecessarily.
3671  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists on: January 29, 2014, 08:52:27 PM
I don't think this is right.
I think the "chain themselves to trees" types of environmentalists do it as a way of easing their conscience.

I think this is probably correct.

Your "new religion" theory is daft though. Our environmental impact on the planet is beyond question at this point - it's easy to observe that (e.g.) forest and woodland areas are being rapidly reduced, and animal and plant species are going extinct at a faster rate than at any other time we know of since the mass extinction at the end of the Cretaceous period.

I don't doubt that there are people who feel very guilty about this as you say. I don't particularly (all these species only got to live in the first place because the Cretaceous extinction did happen, circle of life etc.) but it is happening.

More important than our "impact on the planet" are the negative effects of these changes on us. Deforestation has been shown to destabilise the water table for example, and increases the risk of floods. A diverse set of species in a region keeps land rich, fertile and beautiful. The global warming trend is causing sea levels to rise and the climates of coastal regions to change, again increasing the risk of flooding and making agriculture difficult. All these problems have nothing to do with a species-wide Mea Culpa, but with our long term prosperity.

I agree with everything here except the part i marked out. So generally we are in agreement on these points. Humans are damaging the planet very severely and I definitely care about that. I don't think the claims in my comment and the claims in your comment are contradictory though.
3672  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 29, 2014, 08:41:28 PM
With a divide and conquer approach, we might be able to get zerocoin functionality for NXT before zerocoin!

I'm not sure it's not a theft...

its definitely not theft. the idea of theft requires that someone else be deprived of property. copying code doesn't deprive the other person of his copy. i mean maybe its immoral but if so than not because its theft, it would have to be some new moral construct that doesnt have a name yet. something meaning "immoral copying". i vote that we call it flibber.
3673  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism does not exist on: January 29, 2014, 08:31:29 PM
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But let's be real, contrasting torturing babies to opposing a belief is completely absurd.

i never contrasted those things. they were completely unrelated. I was using torturing babies as a means of applying the Socratic Method to the statement that implied that things ought not be opposed.
3674  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 29, 2014, 07:16:54 PM
Ouch, something strange happening on eMunie ship. Crew members are quitting, Dan again is crying like a girl in trollbox  Cry

What's going on all of a sudden?!?  Ethereum pushed back the IPO too.   Undecided

Voodoo magic. BCNext cursed them all?

oh wow. if both of our major competitors fail just think about how much capital we would absorb.
3675  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists on: January 29, 2014, 06:13:06 PM
The chief motivation for most serious environmentalists is actually maintaining or improving quality of life for humans, not preserving the environment for its own sake. And by 'serious' I mean the scientists and engineers working on solutions, and the lobbyists and politicians brave enough to implement them, not the people who chain themselves to trees/badgers.

I don't think this is right.

I think the "chain themselves to trees" types of environmentalists do it as a way of easing their conscience. They have been tricked into being part of a new religion. The environmental impact on the planet of being alive is the new original sin. So this causes them to to feel guilty about consuming resources, something that all living organisms do. Once they feel guilty about consuming resources, products with little green stickers on them can become the new analogue for "confession".

This comes from the fact that religion in general is so prolific because it exploits unmet emotional needs. So when you embrace secularism without addressing the unmet emotional needs behind religion it leaves a void. One thing that can rush in to fill this void is environmentalism because it has all of the same hallmarks as a traditional religion only in a secular context, namely original sin and forgiveness.

Now as for the "real" environmentalists, the scientists and lobbyists. Some of them probably fall into the former category, but others are just rational people who have found ways to capitalize on and profit from what was described in the previous paragraphs.
3676  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I Look Down On Young Women With Husbands And Kids And I’m Not Sorry on: January 29, 2014, 05:32:10 PM


Every time I hear someone say that feminism is about validating every choice a woman makes I have to fight back vomit.

Do people really think that a stay at home mom is really on equal footing with a woman who works and takes care of herself? There’s no way those two things are the same. It’s hard for me to believe it’s not just verbally placating these people so they don’t get in trouble with the mommy bloggers.

Having kids and getting married are considered life milestones. We have baby showers and wedding parties as if it’s a huge accomplishment and cause for celebration to be able to get knocked up or find someone to walk down the aisle with. These aren’t accomplishments, they are actually super easy tasks, literally anyone can do them. They are the most common thing, ever, in the history of the world. They are, by definition, average. And here’s the thing, why on earth are we settling for average?

If women can do anything, why are we still content with applauding them for doing nothing?

I want to have a shower for a woman when she backpacks on her own through Asia, gets a promotion, or lands a dream job not when she stays inside the box and does the house and kids thing which is the path of least resistance. The dominate cultural voice will tell you these are things you can do with a husband and kids, but as I’ve written before, that’s a lie. It’s just not reality.

You will never have the time, energy, freedom or mobility to be exceptional if you have a husband and kids.

I hear women talk about how “hard” it is to raise kids and manage a household all the time. I never hear men talk about this. It’s because women secretly like to talk about how hard managing a household is so they don’t have to explain their lack of real accomplishments. Men don’t care to “manage a household.” They aren’t conditioned to think stupid things like that are “important.”

Women will be equal with men when we stop demanding that it be considered equally important to do housework and real work. They are not equal. Doing laundry will never be as important as being a doctor or an engineer or building a business. This word play is holding us back.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/amy-glass/2014/01/i-look-down-on-young-women-with-husbands-and-kids-and-im-not-sorry/

I made a similar argument about birthday parties before. I was run out of town. Basically everyone was saying, "survival is very worthy of celebration".
3677  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A user here threatened to multi fork Gamecoin within 24 hours. What can we do? on: January 29, 2014, 05:26:17 PM
Whats the big deal. Let him try to fork it. If hes successful than he has done you a service because now you know that your software is flawed and thats the first step towards fixing it. Its called stress testing. Many systems PAY for stress testing. If he tries and fails then no harm done.
3678  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Atheism does not exist on: January 29, 2014, 05:08:50 PM
Whether you call atheism unbelief, disbelief, or lack of belief, there is no logical reason to me that one would not believe in everything, for everything surely does exist.

It's like saying, I can see and think of the beach but I don't believe it exists.

If you can experience something, then that something is not nothing, it's part of everything.  So why believe in something but not everything?

its not any of those things. i already told you. its opposition to theism. or opposition to believing that gods exist.

Why oppose anything?

So you don't oppose the willful torturing of new born babies?

Either you do not oppose the willful torturing of babies or you do and you would say something like "why oppose anything?" anyway. Either way its pretty good evidence that you are mentally ill. I'm not saying that to hurt your feelings. Im saying it because recognizing something is the first step towards correcting it.

I understand that we live in a world of lies where more than half of everything we are ever told from friends, families, authorities, and even scientists is fiction. Sometimes its easy to go to far is lashing back against this. Considering the sorts of things that you occupy your mind with you really ought to consider engaging in a deep study of epistemology. It may help you to regain some rooting in reality. Hell with the way your mind works you may even be able to add something to the field. But you HAVE to be rigorous and that means that you have to look for, identify, and REJECT paradoxes. You can not passively accept paradoxes.
3679  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 29, 2014, 05:10:30 AM
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My intention was to examine the question of whether nxt would or would not tend to cause the rich to get richer at the expense of the poor.
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ok this should be interesting.  let me sleep on it.  But my first take would be that, NXT being a zero sum game (unlike wealth) does cause that.  Though not strictly "unfairly" where the poor get nothing in return for paying the rich

I think even if this were a legit criticism i think it would be a bit like saying that nausea as a side effect is a legit criticism of some break through life saving medicine. which would be true but a little bit beside the point if you are dying of cancer (like we are right now from the cancer called the state) and this medicine could potentially save you.
3680  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 29, 2014, 04:47:40 AM
Sure thats true but it isn't really relevant. The question is whether nxt will cause the rich to get richer. Not whether everyone will get an equal rate of return on their investment.

lets go back... why is this an issue?  This aint unicef.  LIFE aint unicef.  OK the rich do get richer, perhaps we should instead focus just on how things are and what this REALLY means.  Like the talk about the initial stakeholders making a 4700% ROI immediately after genesis.  So what?  The period was open for OVER SIX WEEKS, that is like ages in comparison to all other altcoin ANN threads before then. (no Im not a genesis block stakeholder either)  If the 'unfairness' of the 6 week period is all you can think of then you are a fool as you are really missing the whole POINT of NXT.  Its not some stupid altcoin to get pumped and dumped like all others; its the basis for a completely new crypto currency infrastructure.  Why are they not clamoring about the unfairness of all the early bitcoin adopters getting such a headstart.

Just dont even bother with trying to reason with unreasonable people.  Problem solved, problem staying solved.

Yea I agree with a lot of that but the point wasn't to make value judgments. (i think i technically did and perhaps i shouldn't have) My intention was to examine the question of whether nxt would or would not tend to cause the rich to get richer at the expense of the poor.

also as a side note the net transfer would be very minor i think.
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