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3681  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Ce sunt banii on: May 20, 2022, 07:53:31 AM
La fel ar fi privite, de pilda, si frunzele, daca oamenii ar face tranzactii platind cu frunze.

In exemplul de mai sus, ea folosea scoicile ca exemplu.

Corect. Am citit si eu de scoici mai demult, mi s-a parut super tare pentru vremurile de atunci, desi, faptul ca nu erau chiar atat de rare le-ar face extrem de contestate de "gica contra".
Ca tot vad de astia care cred ca aurul este atat de scump din cauza utilitatii (iar cand le fac comparatie cu cuprul sau fierul, ei zic "aaaa, pai nu e la fel") si nu din cauza ca e rar si tinut sub cheie de banci et co.

Intamplator, ideea a fost tratata si de Wendy McElroy, in cartea The Satoshi Revolution.

Ideea este ca problema asta o gasim "la greu" in discutii legate de crypto. In astfel de discutii nu poti sa nu iei in considerare ca cel care trateaza corect (dpmdv) subiectul poate fi partinitor (cu paradigma Bitcoin).
De aceea m-a bucurat foarte tare sa vad treaba asta scrisa undeva complet independent de Bitcoin (chiar daca are legatura cu acest razboi stupid purtat, nu stiu de ce, la comanda unui om cu probleme).

In ceea ce priveste inflatia... nu mai zic nimic, ca ma doare inima deja...

Mda, pe mine "ma bucura de numa'" sa lucrez mai mult pe valoare mai mica (aceeasi bani, dar degeaba).
3682  Economy / Services / Re: Revolut/binance cashout on: May 19, 2022, 11:18:04 AM
Hello,I’m searching for a partner who can provide me cards to cashout with Revolut and then to Binance.I’m working honestly with procent tg-@Neznakomeco

Both Revolut and Binance have cards. Iirc, Revolut will need the account on the exchange and the Revolut account be both on the same name.
But I think that what you need is either money mules, either somebody to be scammed, so I'd recommend caution.
3683  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who's behind the mysterious Bitcoin? on: May 19, 2022, 10:27:50 AM
wall of text

Sorry, I don't have the patience to read that entirely for a full answer. I've tried this or that, but from the way you're presenting information I don't believe you to be (or have been) a teacher. I start to think that you're just trolling.
3684  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sending BTC To Gambling Site Time Range Question? on: May 19, 2022, 06:49:55 AM
Does that make sense?

Yes.

So say normally when you send the btc to that site with in minutes, the timer would stop because i believe it recognizes the btc has been sent even though there are no confirmations yet?  But other times i believe timer would still go straight to 0 even after you sent it.  But the gambling site would then credit the USD amount to your sportsbetting account.  Does that make sense?  Also im talking about sportsbooks where you send btc to them and they credit you with fiat.  So say you want to deposit 500 dollars on the site, it then generates a btc address for you to send to and then show send exactly 0.xxxxxx btc to that address.  

Afaik the timer stops when the conditions they impose are all met (which can be either sending, either a number of confirmations, depending on their implementation or settings) or the designated time period has passed.

So i want to confirm...

You should really confirm with the support of the specific service, not with us. They do have support, don't they?
In my experience some tell that if you send out of the timeframe they will pick the new exchange rate for you and do credit you automatically, some may need to be reached to help you out.
And I won't say that 1 sat/vByte is good enough. Look on website in the moment you're sending and see what are the fees of the moment. In the week-ends may be good, although I'd use a tad more than just the bare minimum.

And again: want to be 100% certain about how a specific service is working? Best is to ask that service's support.
Here you didn't give specific name (or maybe you did, but I don't know them?), so all you can get is generic answers. And even if you would give the name of the exact service, only those using it could answer correctly.
If you want to be 100% sure, your best bet is their support.
3685  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who's behind the mysterious Bitcoin? on: May 19, 2022, 06:36:10 AM
Why would you care about this enough to write such a big deal? I mean I get that you wanted to help someone to see a better point of view, instead of fake news. However, conspiracy theories are dime a dozen everywhere around the world. Like "area 51 has aliens!!" or "lizards are running the world!" or "illuminati controls everything!!" and so forth. Of course, there will be some in crypto world as well and some people will create and make up some stories.

So, just ignore it, move on, and just carry on with your life without even remembering it. Caring enough about what OP said to write this much, only hurts you, because either OP will ignore, or everyone ignores him anyway.

While you do have a point and I do that many times (ignore & move on), just for the sake of my health, now and then I have the patience to get my sword and fight with the windmills. Grin
The problem is that if we allow people spread all the fake news and conspiracy theories and just ignore them, the newbies will come and will have no idea what to believe, they won't get have a healthy foundation for their logic. I wish to believe that everybody will ignore this kind of "writings", but I am certain that it's not like that.

Plus: not all conspiracy theory adepts are trolls and idiots, some are just misled. Maybe OP is only misled, who knows?
3686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: May 18, 2022, 11:13:29 AM
Interestingly (in a bad way) there's no sprint neither at Barcelona, nor at Monaco...
I hope that next year they'll add more of those.
3687  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN AS A LEGAL TENDER on: May 18, 2022, 10:30:31 AM
Please I ask the forum do you think Bitcoin can be installed as a means of legal tender in advance county like CHINA, USA , ENGLAND, JAPAN etc...
Seeing it's getting close to it's mining 21million limit

Yes.
First thing is that Bitcoin has 8 digits after the decimal point.
Second thing is that it can be changed to have even more digits after the decimal point, if that's needed, and also we can use a different basic unit (maybe the Satoshi).
And third, if we get there, I would be far from surprised if banks will use Bitcoin as reserve asset and the common people would use yet another fractional reserve based something, i.e. a new form of bank notes.
3688  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: A system that can't have illegal trade yet contains investing value on: May 18, 2022, 09:28:07 AM
What are we supposed to do with this post?

My bet would be that it's a sad attempt to create hype for whatever shit token he wants to find suckers who, with some luck, would buy it.
I'd be happy if OP proves me wrong.
3689  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has no future as a payments network, says FTX chief on: May 18, 2022, 09:12:59 AM
It is possible, it depends on the approach used, setting a fee that can make confirmed fast and making the transaction not to be RBF.

You cannot ensure some will not try to be smartass and use RBF.
And then I'm sure you won't be pleased to wait in line for maybe hours until the transaction gets confirmed.
And, again, if many people would do that on the daily basis the mempool will be overly crowded. And then "setting a fee that can make confirmed fast" can get easily unreasonably expensive.
3690  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All the possible ways I can earn some Bitcoin as a developer on: May 18, 2022, 08:37:10 AM
Please tell me all the possible ways I can earn some bitcoin,
as a developer.

Bitcoin is money, hence you can:
* work for Bitcoin if you find employer who can pay like that
* work for fiat and exchange that yourself into Bitcoin (easiest to achieve)
* develop your entrepreneurship skills and do something that can earn you fiat or Bitcoin

I can write code myself, still, I couldn't sell my coding skills for Bitcoin. I've got a tip once for some code, but that was all. So if you think that you'll find here the ultimate answer, please lower your expectations.
3691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Project idea with bitcoin usecase on: May 18, 2022, 08:31:53 AM
Data will have a limited retention time, based on a usage score.

If the data is produced by request, the buyer will probably make his own copy and no longer need the source, hence the source will get over time low usage score.
If the data is produced "just for the sake of it", then it may or may not have good usage, most probably not from the start (unless it's a very strong news) and may be discarded before somebody find out its usefulness.
So the limited retention time may be a very hard to fine-tune two edged sword.
3692  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has no future as a payments network, says FTX chief on: May 18, 2022, 08:24:24 AM
All I know is that he is absolutely wrong and one of the people that is misleading people about bitcoin transaction fee. Exchanges are the idiots that is making people to think bitcoin fee is high. When many exchanges are supporting lightning network now, FTX has not yet supoort it. I have begin to dislike this FTX exchange, we do not want criticism but to support lightning network and reduce bitcoin withdrawal fee.

The fact that you or me may send transactions mostly Saturdays with lowest tx fee is not the topic here.
The fact that in most days tx fees are far from big is not the topic here.
The fact the exchanges steal people's money as withdrawal fees and claim it's tx fee is also not the topic here.

The topic is, imho, that if we want to have half of the world pay in the supermarket with Bitcoin, on-chain, it's not possible, because the next block may come in a minute or in an hour and because if so many people would transact so much the fees would go over the roof.

LN is off-chain and, as I said, it's easily seen as a plugin to Bitcoin, not Bitcoin itself, hence the statements is not about LN.
I see his statement like "LN can be the payment channel and Bitcoin itself can be the store of value". Better?


Edit: I can agree though that he could have better skills in telling the things in order to not scare off the average Joe.
3693  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: De ce oamenii ar trebui să utilizeze adrese SegWit on: May 18, 2022, 08:16:45 AM
M-as fi asteptat la o prostie din asta, mare cat Casa Poporului, de la orice exchange, mai putin Binance... Am avut asteptari prea mari, se pare. Deci se poate si la case mai mari, ca sa zic asa.

Um.. nu...
Binance are istorie destul de serioasa de a pica atunci cand pretul o ia razna foarte tare.
Nu au servere ca lumea, nu au sistemul pus bine la punct, si asta denota amatorism. Si daca exista amatorism intr-un loc, probabil exista (cam) peste tot.
Deci nu, eu unul nu ma mir. (Ok, ma mir ca au facut-o atat de groasa, atat de stupid, dar nu ca s-a intamplat la Binance)
3694  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sending BTC To Gambling Site Time Range Question? on: May 18, 2022, 08:11:49 AM
First, please remove the duplicate post. And stop spamming. (Edit: mods have removed the duplicate)

What i did recall is when they do this, there is generally a message below it that says this btc address is good up to say the next 15 minutes or 30 minutes?  That is normal right?  But if you ever want to send btc to say coinbase, well whatever btc address coinbase generates for you, you can pretty much send it anytime correct since that is your btc coinbase address?

It's a setting in order to optimize resources (computers). Some software is "watching" that address automatically for a rather short period of time (some gambling sites or payment processors), some will watch it for pretty much forever (exchanges), some .. somewhere in between.
Usually those watching for short period of time try to force you send fast in order to ensure the USD price of what you've sent doesn't change much.
The company will still have that address even in days or years in their wallet, and they can verify that you've sent funds outside the designated period, but you'll have to ask the support, because the checking will most probably made manually (not automatic, like when you send as requested).

Now since i have not sent btc from my nano ledger s to a gambling site in a while, what i don't recall is what sat fee did i use before i sent the transaction.

After so long you still don't understand that whatever fee you've used in another day doesn't matter at all since mempool may or may not be similarly busy in both moments?!!!?

Now even if you send with a low fee from the nano ledger s, the transaction will immediately show up in the blockchain transaction history correct?  Because when it says you have 15 minutes to send btc to this address, if you send it within say even a minute before  it expires, it shows up on blockchain and the transaction will go through no matter what correct?  But it might take lot of time and confirmations?  

The platforms I've used only needed to see the transaction in mempool during those 15-20 minutes, but I didn't use such platforms much. They also preferred transactions have no RBF for this work well.
And yes, afterwards it may take a lot to get confirmed, depending on the fee. And again it depends on the platform how/when will they credit your transaction.

thats how it works right?

So you want us tell you how whatever gambling site handles internally the deposits? And you don't mention the site?
How should we know?!

Now what would happen if you were to send the btc to that btc address after that 15 minutes?

After that happens to you, then you'll have to ask the support help you out.
The transaction you've sent cannot be rejected by the recipient wallet. A tx returns to you only if it's not mined for very long (2 weeks or more), which is not the case nowadays.

Asking this because i am going to withdraw btc from a gambling site to nano ledger s, and once i receive the btc, i will want to send around that btc amount or less to another gambling site with my nano ledger s and just want to know how much sat fees should i set it.  So how much sat fee to put on ledger live before sending?  And you need to make sure you do the transaction quick and don't try to do it when the timer is like few minutes left right?  Because of that happens, just wait for timer to expire and try depositing later when you go to cashier in that gambling site and then generate a new btc deposit address?

I recommend you do the sending in week-end and watch on mempool.space what are the normal fees. And if you want to be super sure, use the high prio fee (which in w/e should also be 2 sat/vbyte).
3695  Local / Română (Romanian) / Ce sunt banii on: May 18, 2022, 07:51:42 AM
Am tot vazut, mai ales in sectiunea internationala, o gramada de "Gica contra" care zic ca Bitcoin este atat de diferit de bani si ca nu ar trebui sa aiba valoare.
Stiti povestea, sunt convins.

Am descoperit azi intr-un articol care nu are treaba cu bitcoin absolut deloc, ci cu Rublele in contextul razboiului lui Putin si a sanctiunilor, o exprimare care din punctul meu de vedere merita "imortalizata" aici, fiindca explica foarte fain si simplu niste chestii:

Trebuie să privim moneda ca orice altă marfă. Ea se tranzacționează în funcție de piață. Există cerere, se vinde, nu există cerere, stai cu ea pe stoc”, spune Dan Chirleșan, conferențiar universitar doctor la Universitatea Alexandru Ioan Cuza din Iași

Deci da, fiat este doar alta marfa. Niste hartii pe care banca nationala sau trezoreria scrie ca jura pe rosu ca valoreaza X (iar apoi fac acel X sa insemne cat vor ei, prin inflatie si altele).
As zice deci ca Bitcoin este o marfa similara, doar ca nu este manipulata de guverne/banci centrale, ci valoarea este la latitudinea pietei.
3696  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has no future as a payments network, says FTX chief on: May 18, 2022, 07:41:51 AM
While I do believe that the journalist has probably nitpicked/twisted the words, it's pretty much common knowledge that on-chain transactions are somewhat limited and slow. So I don't know what's the news here.
And LN is seen by many as not being Bitcoin (maybe a plug-in for Bitcoin, but not bitcoin itself). So again, nothing spectacular here.

I don't want to take his side, he may be only after profits and not a believer in bitcoin, but it doesn't matter here, he is not as wrong as some see it.
3697  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Ledger Nano S balance suddenly double on: May 18, 2022, 07:23:06 AM
Yes, the BTC balance.

Ledger Live has quite a history of bugs. So, unfortunately, don't get too happy.
There was not long ago another user telling about a transaction getting doubled, see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5398019.0

As said, clearing cache fixes this.
I will add 2 more things:

1. Consider using a more reliable wallet, like Electrum. It works very good with Ledger (I use that combination). You get Electrum from Electrum.org, you verify it, you run it with your Ledger (when you create the wallet you don't generate new seed nor enter your seed, instead you select "Standard wallet" then "Use hardware device"

2. This topic is hardware wallets related, please move it to Hardware Wallets section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=261.0
The link on bottom-left of the page should help  Wink
3698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Project idea with bitcoin usecase on: May 18, 2022, 07:13:15 AM

I've done a quick "scan" in the pdf and:
* I see there smart contracts, I see there BNB... I don't see Bitcoin at all. So where's the Bitcoin use case there? (because if it's missing, then this may suit altcoin discussion)
* The use of SEC acronym can be greatly misleading.

Some things are not well explained, some others may be overly explained and made me skip parts. It does have the potential to work, but with modifications and only if you get actual data consumers ask for specific data they need (and actually pay for it), i.e. by request. Unless you do that, you'll end up with a huge pile of useless data. You also either avoided, or missed the part of data storage. The huge amount of data will have to be stored somewhere and it's unclear who will store that data and who will pay for that storage (I hope that you don't expect the data be stored on the blockchain). And the storage may have to be on a reliable high availability servers (i.e. expensive).
3699  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: De ce oamenii ar trebui să utilizeze adrese SegWit on: May 18, 2022, 06:44:47 AM
"Incurcate sunt caile Domnului Nakamoto" cu toate tipurile acestea de adrese. Trebuie putina grija...

LOL! Doar ca nu-s ale lui Nakamoto, el doar adrese Legacy a lasat in urma (1* si 3* multisig). Chestiile astea cu SegWit sunt de data (din ce in ce mai) recenta.
Cumva lumea ar trebui sa inceapa discute despre ce nu incepe cu bc1 mai degraba la istoria Bitcoin; poate ar mai inlatura din confuzie.

De curand am citit despre problema unui utilizator Binance care a vrut sa retraga pe o adresa bc1p, iar Binance cum nu suporta (cel putin la momentul acela) adrese taproot a trimis BTC catre varianta bc1q. Au schimbat ei o litera in adresa omului ca asa a vrut sistemul... si practic, dupa cum confirma si Pieter Wuille prin raspunsuri, au dat burn la monede in felul asta.   Shocked

Wow!! Nu stiam despre povestea asta. Maaaaama ce idioti! Se pare ca "merge si-asa"... se aplica si in alte tari. Roll Eyes
3700  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Blockchain.info forgotten password on: May 17, 2022, 06:49:46 PM
Their customer service is pretty much an useless waste of time. And now the website is blockchain.com
One starting point could be this topic, maybe some answers can be of help for you (although please double check) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147174.0
(does your mail contains a mnemonic or an aes.json attachement?)

Best would be if you have a 12 or 24 words mnemonic, but I think that such words came later than your account.
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