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3681  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What the heck is happening to bitcoin! on: September 07, 2020, 09:16:25 PM
Is it manipulation? or just not breaking the resistance of 12K Area?
I am shocked of this recent drop and i am a long term holder, what do you think it will happen? just a correction?
I think wait for longer time wouldn't affect for long term holder. I mean maybe see a lot of responses from people, if you really long term holder, maybe wouldn't ask and worry about your investment because long term holder will keep wait until they think their investment is gain a profit. But that is only my opinion.

And being a long term holder gives you the idea of keep buying those cheap coins as the opportunities to sell it in a much better price bring more decent profits right.
Thinking about the current downfall. there are always factors that affects the behaviors of the market
and part of that are the whales who are really good in making situations, be precise with your chosen
strategy, if you are aiming to hold long then keep it that way.

What's happening to BTC right now is the question that goes through most of our minds! Some think it is just the normal correction and dare I mention that some speculate this is the new contraction for BTC and crypto alike.

Myself, tend to be more optimistic and think that this is a normal market response given the previous slow inflation. It is annoying as a long term holder but as @Fredomago suggests this might just be the best time for people looking for long-term crypto investment. So seise the opportunity while you can!
Getting annoyed on time like these is just normal yet it do really give out always a bad vibe when we do saw the market is having a correction into its price.We do like to see a bullish market but we know that market doesnt work or having that kind of characteristics.There would always be a sell off someone bags and when you are in this market for a while now then seeing these circumstances wont already give you any surprise
since it can happen from time to time without even knowing the true reason behind it.This is why we do see several opinions and pointing out some news or events that might be correlated on such movement
but actually theres no precise thing when it comes to that. Price can move into a very unpredictable manner this is why as an investor seeing these low prices will really be an opportunity
for you to take.
3682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Card counting in black jack on: September 07, 2020, 07:56:50 PM
To be honest, I have never used a card counting strategy, but according to some reviews I have read on various forums.
Many card counting is successful after practicing it, but this strategy must have a good memory and can focus on concentration.
So it is clear that people with weak memories will not succeed in using the card counting strategy.
I will ask from a friend who is a math teacher to help me for beating the dealer in a live blackjack table. From the first look, it is not hard to learn but it is hard to master after falling many times. Overall, the edge over the house will increase and of course, our minds will be messy, just a single mistake can ruin the whole combination. Imagine combining this with martingale money management and being unsuccessful.
It sounds simple but when you are on the actual thing then it would really be already a confusing thing if you havent mastered this enough.Im able to tried or practice this one but it seems it would need
several months to keep on playing before i do able to take a grasp on it.Take note that dont let yourself get caught or making yourself way too obvious on this stuff or else you would really be
blocked or restricted on a certain casino.
3683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Trust issues with Klever wallet on: September 06, 2020, 11:12:32 PM
Hey there!
Following the launch of #Klever last month (August), I just downloaded my klever wallet.
I heard that Klever_io is the most advanced crypto wallet in the industry, what do you think?
Hey dude,
I have just checked through the wallet and found out some features it carries, its mainly ETH and TRON based coins, although its a new wallet, so could we trust this wallet.? To avoid using this new wallet, why not try using old and reputable wallets used for a long time that constitute and contain several features other than klever wallet that is new in the system. There are old wallets that are built on ETH and TRON available if that's what you might be lookin for in the wallet.examples of such wallets are listed on this link below.

https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-cryptocurrency-wallets/
Unless if he do just simply shilling out this wallet.There are lots of new wallets floating around but when it comes to credibility then its always been a questionable thing.We arent generalizing that they are frauds but we
cant be sure when it comes to security aspect.So it is much better to stick into those known ones rather than risking up your coins on storing into these wallets which still havent able to prove.
For BTC then go for electrum for ETH  go for MEW. If op is just a noob who do look for wallet then better to skip this one out.
3684  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Invest in bitcoin and get daily dividend on: September 06, 2020, 10:44:01 PM
I do really always have a bad feeling when i do these kind of format or images.lol


This doesnt belong on Gambling board yet it has nothing to do with gambling.Better to move this topic on service discussion.
3685  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading without setting stop loss (Risky or Not)? on: September 04, 2020, 07:59:57 PM
I will love to know how far you have been trading with this strategy, I don't use stop-loss also especially when I am doing day trading this is because I have learnt a great lesson I used to trade Bull and Bear token. One night, the price went down greatly below the resistance level and almost half of my profit had gone. My advice to you is either you set a stop-loss or do not have active trading especially at night when you want to sleep or anytime you will not have a chance to be checking your trading
When it comes to day-trade then i dont see for SL's to be that relevant since you do most likely to check out prices every now and then and also i dont really leave out a position when i do sleep
but if you do decide to sleep or be away from keyboard then its suggested to set up something like SL or even a take profit tool but there are cases which i do much prefer on leaving as it is
without any limits because when price goes down you can still possibly break even since you havent triggered or make use of that sl tool.
Every trader has a strategy that works best for them. With what you wrote, it is evident that trading without setting the stop-loss order works pretty well for you. For others, it might be a disaster.
Since it works well for you, then I do not think it's risky not to set stop-loss. However, it is recommended to always set stop-loss for all trades
Personally, I have always set a stop-loss order to minimize my losses in times when the market is not favorable to me.

This is right! It might be useful for others but this one could be irrelevant to some.
3686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Legal Matter on: September 04, 2020, 06:51:40 PM
Indeed, unless it's against their religion to gamble.

Gambling is a big industry, it opens opportunity to improve the economy through taxes, but it's not a perfect business especially to those who are losing money against the casino, but we need to educate people that gambling sites have an edge and we will likely to lose, so treating it an entertainment is the best way to do.

Why liquor are not ban? because it's helping the economy and they just say drink moderately, the same thing could also be applied in gambling.
Is there any way that gambling activity could be moderated? It seems like a good idea to moderate gambling as we all know that many are addicted to gamble and somehow destroys the life of a gambler.

Just like smoking here in our place. It has been somehow moderated by increasing its tax for the smokers. The impact of high tax is that the price of the ciggarete become expensive and some smokers minimize their buying capacity. The label itself discourage every smoker knowingly the effect of its health.

If gambling could be moderated hoe could it be done? Could it be possible to create a law like this?

We can only control by ourselves, that's the way to have a moderation when it comes to gambling. The government will only act when there's a serious negative effect on gambling as they need to balance the risk and reward. Yes, they are still rewarded as they will get an income tax from gambling operation but if that would risk a lot of people to get addicted, I think it's not wise anymore to not act on it to address the problem.

Thus far, the only law I read in one of the threads in the forum IIRC is to limit gamblers at $100 per month.
Those limits are just too small imho even if you are a small time gambler and you will surely complain about this law.They can make limitations but this wont really be that small as mentioned.
When it comes to benefits then its no doubt since gambling business is one of the biggest contributor so most likely government would really consider it out on making it legal and i agree that
moderation doesnt only limit out to themselves but rather on the players or citizens itself.We are the ones who do make out spending and controlling our money into gambling activity is just
our responsibility not by other people.If you do let yourself fall into the pit of addiction or messed out yourself because of it then you just got overboard.
3687  Economy / Economics / Re: Monkeys: Don't do trend analysis! (with poll) on: September 04, 2020, 05:26:55 PM
The result:
Quote
Yes   - 9 (56.3%)
No   - 6 (37.5%)
I don't know   - 1 (6.3%)
Total Voters: 16

The question is, from those nine analysts, how many of you correctly predict that the price will be dump to the $10k level?

I would like to know as well on how they do consider it out on having such precision on using up analysis.I cant deny nor disagree that they dont work but we know that each decision we do made
just really have that 50% chance of succeeding neither it would go up or down as we do able to enter the market.Im sure that 99% didnt really anticipate that we would be heading down on 10k
again yet most of peoples perception or feeling is already on talking in levels of 13k as we break that 12k barrier but it seems this isnt still the right time for such price.I do make use of technicals
but im not really that relying when it comes to precision yet market is always been unpredictable and even to those so-called expert or pros then they are just typical speculators also.
3688  Economy / Speculation / Re: sell now or you WILL regret it on: September 04, 2020, 04:52:36 PM
We are moments away from catering below 11k and she's only going to speed up on the way down.
Seriously guys it's time to take profit

For people who do able to believe on such call when the time you posted this then they did really able to make some profits on selling out while it did able to reach 12k price point yet
now we are hovering 10430 as of this writing but it was just a right guess or prediction yet market is always been like this because there are only two possible ways on where
price can go.You cant tell if it would be shooting up continously when it did break that 12 barrier but sadly it didnt and goes back into its trail.Well, thats how market works
because we cant just see a continous movement.
3689  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BBC Sports Personality 2020 on: September 03, 2020, 10:39:53 PM
I haven't been following much sports since the start of 2020 but my interest has been piqued by motosports (again) due to the 2020 F1 World Championship. I kinda wanna see Hamilton win this award for this year although that will be a little bit too biased since I only watch F1. Tyson Fury is also one in my books due to his bout recently against Deontay Wilder. These two showed great deal of professionalism in their craft for me, and if I were to pick a champ--even if it's too biased on my liking lol--it's just between the two of them.
Always been part on making up bets which you wont consider it out if you dont like them. lol. Just like yours i do consider Fury and Hamilton not just they are heavily favorites but im aware on the sports they are into.
not just making out bets that you didnt even know on what sports theyre belong into.
3690  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greatest Gambling Losers on: September 03, 2020, 09:41:25 PM
Damn, and im here freaking out when losing 20$  Cheesy
When it is my first time doing gambling, I'm disappointed of myself when I lose at around $10 or less and saying to myself that "If I only just bought food with that money or at least saved it or invested in something" and there are times where I will just sleep out of my disappointment.

It will depend on the lifestyle of the gambler. If you haven't that much money then you will really freak out when you lose a few buck like you and me but if you will ask those rich gamblers, $20 is just nothing to them and they are still ok if they lose it. Its just experience and discipline. If you want to gamble then you must learn not to feel anything when you lost your money because at the end of the day, gamblers have a higher chance to lose all of their money in gambling.
It also came that to me, Realizing the thing I should have bought with the small money I lose in gambling, It was a small bet with my sister almost 5$ value in our fiat, I was really disappointed with that bet that I told myself not to gamble anymore or make bets anymore but here I am playing gambling on different crypto casinos and not regretting my loses. I do agree that it depends on the lifestyle, The time that I loss 5$ bet is when I was a young age that I can't afford to buy myself my wants cause I'm still studying that time, But now I do have income, I really don't feel any guilt when I lose some pennies.

Putting some limitation on your gambling money can help you not regret the gambling session you did. Gamble what you can regain with your job  Grin

Lossing too much money in gambling can cause damage to your mental health  Grin
Its indeed varying with someones lifestyle or status depending on its financial capacity but overall you should know how to handle out your money neither it would be big or small.
Of course it wont really be similar on perception when we do lose when we are still young or doesnt have the capability to have some income but when you are already capable of then
you would really just forget on what you had said in the past about on completely stopping.

Losing is inevitable this is why when we do set our foot on gambling field then consider those funds to be on auto lose or just simply thinking it up as a fee for the pleasure you do seek
but well we do know that each person is different in towards their views in gambling.
3691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will Tron (TRX) Ever Reach $5? on: September 03, 2020, 08:26:19 PM
While I acknowledge that anything is possible, specifcally in the world of cryptocurrency.  TRX reaching, or surpassing $5.00 in value has been on my thoughts recently...

I have read predictions from most Trx adopters saying by December 2020, trx could be $5.00 in value. How they arrived at that, I do not know.

Can Forum users have a say on this?


Just simply look at the charts or the history of TRX itself and you can really see that going $5 price value would really be on the impossible side.Come to think that when that bull run happens
in last months of 2017 and initial months of 2018 where Bitcoin and majority of alts is mooning then TRX did only able to reach $0.22 maximum. Asking or hoping for $5 price would really be hard
and just imagine on how much would be needed and what would be the total marketcap since it does have 100Billion total supply.Its just really an unrealistic expectation.
3692  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Inoue vs. Moloney - October 31 on: September 02, 2020, 10:58:58 PM
Both Inoue and Casimero had an individual fight, is it possible that if both fighter would win their respective fights, they would finally face each other?

This is what we have been looking, we were hype when it first announce but due to the pandemic, promoter of Inoue might have found a reason to cancel the fight as IMO, they don't want to risk the undefeated record of Inoue against Casimero, but let's see if both fighters could win and then we will start to speculate again and hopefully that time we will be virus free some promoters will find no excuse not to make the fight happen.

Too early, so I expect there's no odds for this fight yet.

We cant really say that they are just trying to alibi the pandemic situation just for them to avoid Casimero. Each fighter that he's facing of woudl really be a risk on his undefeated record.
For this upcoming fight Inoue vs Moloney then i would have no doubts that this Jap kid will still own this austrialian boxer. Im not basing of in numbers but on KO percentage you do know
on whose the one got the power and not only that Inoue does have longer reach even though both are on the same height and thats already an advantage.
Monster vs "The monster" ? Both monsters but there should be only one.
3693  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-08-01] How the FBI tracked down the Twitter hackers on: September 02, 2020, 09:48:05 PM
They aren't really smart by pulling this Twitter hack proven by them using the same email on creating various accounts counting Coinbase as well. The hack itself isn't their plan based on the stories I have seen someone leaked the vulnerability of Twitter and how easy they can hack multiple accounts from it and they probably just tried it out and see if it works from them. FBI with the help of IRS and their data made this  huntdown for them possible and if they really have used a Coinbase account to receive all of those crypto then there is a big chance that all of the stolen cryptocurrencies will be recovered by the authorities.
Didnt know if they do able to halt those transactions, if they were able been caught on that Coinbase halted transactions https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/20/21331499/coinbase-twitter-hack-elon-musk-bill-gates-joe-biden-bitcoin-scam then these cashouts havent able to pass through but as far as i know they had able to cash out and that what makes them being traced due they had a verified account used which is
totally dumb for a hacker to giving out an obvious path for the government to look for and now they've been caught with not soo much effort because the trail is just bright as daylight. lol
3694  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Virtual trading before actual one - pros and cons on: September 02, 2020, 08:43:06 PM
We had a similar topic in gambling discussion section, it was about gambling with free money or demo versions, or gambling with the real money! My stand is pretty clear on that, it's always better to do it with real money! Demo version is good for one thing only, to learn about the rules if you are complete newbies, but as soon as you learn the rules try with real money, with amount you can afford to lose of course. Why it's better, simply because you learn how to do it under the pressure! You don't have pressure while you do it for free, you can risk a lot, you don't care much about your amount, but with real money you are under the light and you know you need to give your best or you will fail and lose money, and you don't wish that to happen!


You would really feel the thrill or excitement because you arent risking something and as said or mentioned which you would bet as much as you can because you do know that its just free or virtual money.
You know that you wont lose anything thats why learning wont really be that much compared when you are dealing with the real thing.Pros is that you can really make out a learning yet you can able to
know on what are the mechanics or how do things should be done or does work rather than getting live or using actual money on your first try thats why getting some demo wont really be that a bad idea
but real learning can really be found on the actual situation using actual or real money.
3695  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: September 01, 2020, 11:45:52 PM
Good start for the Celtics and Raptors, it was a close game and I think it's going to be a low scoring game.
They'll be putting more pressure in this game because the Raptors would want to even the series, so let's enjoy the night watching this game.

VanVleet now seems to be having a great start, hopefully we will see him score his usual.



1st quarter has ended and the game is tied now at 28. By the first half scoring I'm witnessing, doesn't look like the game will go to over in total points, but they could slow down in the remaining quarter, so sit tight and enjoy watching it. Good luck to what team you are betting now.
They already tie as of this moment have both scored 82 and still have 8 minutes remaining.This game is too close but lets see on who would be the one to pull this off.
By the way i do made up some bets on Raptors *crossfingers* .
3696  Economy / Speculation / Re: There Bitcoin goes again. on: September 01, 2020, 10:51:56 PM
As of this writing, 2:45 Eastern, USA, she's at $12,000 again.

Cool

Would be more enjoyable if you do post up these kind of things on WO https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.0  Smiley Its one of the most best threads of this forum when it comes to Bitcoins price progress.
Yeah, we did hit 12k but lets see if it would able to hold up for too long and would be playing around between 12k and 13k. If this one wont be similar situation where price hits up on 12400 and goes back down.
If it holds on september, october will be the next 2017 Wink
Everything is still questionable and no one does have the crystal ball on what would be the price on next minute.
3697  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid 19 shows how weak People are in the it mind on: September 01, 2020, 09:44:47 PM
This is basically what banks want you to do as well. Think about it, you are a bank and you need income, if a lot of people suddenly starts taking out a loan, you are using the money you have to give out loans to people and they will be paying you money back with interest every month, that is income that everyone would love to have.

I mean let's say you have 10 thousand dollars, you give to 10 people with 4 thousand dollars each (banks are allowed to give more loans than the money they have) which means 40 thousand dollars you loaned to people, they will pay about 60 thousand dollars with interest over course of 5 years, wouldn't you consider that a great business?

I would totally go for something like that, being a bank is awesome for the bank while awful for everyone else. Hence, if you do what OP says, you are only making banks happy.
Is he aware on how banks do make business or just totally dumb on making or seeing this as an opportunity? We can take loan from time to time neither we are on a pandemic situation or not yet
these banks will surely offer loans because this is one of the main source of income for them on letting people do borrow and giving out those ridiculous interest rates per annum.
This might be a typical thing but this is much way more better rather than borrowing into someone or people who do have much more bigger interest.
Also, dont take loans just for you to make up some investment.
3698  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mind Blown Gambling Facts on: September 01, 2020, 08:59:24 PM
It is estimated that 80 percent of adults in the United States gamble yearly and out of every 100 gamblers, there are 2 to 3 people that have some sort of gambling problem – that is a huge number when you really think about just how many people that impacts around the country.

Number of gambling addicts with an alcohol disorder is 75 percent

Half of the total gambling addicts have had mood disorders
Gambling was forbidden for a very long time and you could only do it legally in certain regions of your country but with the advent of the Internet people now can gamble from the comfort of their own home and I think many governments are finding this to be very problematic and that is why some of them are taking actions against it but now thanks to bitcoin those restrictions mean absolutely nothing as you can use your bitcoin in whatever way you can, which means that gambling will only get even more popular from now on.
It wasnt really that much Forbidden but it is really being frowned upon by a certain community on where there are really places where people does have negative impressions towards those people who do get involved with gambling.I dont know but it is much pretty common to have that kind of view.Its just normal to have restrictions into other countries about gambling activity neither they do care into its citizens or just totally disagree or doesnt like for gambling to operate into its vicinity.No matter what the reason is then people who do really likes to gamble cant really be stopped and as mentioned where it is much more easier to gamble when you do only
have just internet connection.People can access places as easy as pie.
3699  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greatest Gambling Losers on: August 31, 2020, 11:53:40 PM
Damn, and im here freaking out when losing 20$  Cheesy
You have lost most of your money for the Jr member rank level Cheesy If you don't want to experience big losses then stop gambling and do something positive to get profitability without losses like gambling.

   All other possibilities for earning with $20 can give you cents every week, or to say nothing. For safer investments you need
higher capital, in that way you can have income, with low amounts you can't do much. It's where gambling comes, you can
multiply your capital fast and that lure people, fast money, possibility for that. You know $20 isn't much, to earn cents from that
is also nothing, why not to give it a try? It's how that starts and many beginners face with that.

$20 might be big for others but for majority it would really be just a very minimal amount that someone wont bother if they do lose it all.Also gambling isnt really a mandatory thing for you to do so
and if you do consider on playing on just hoping for that 20 bucks to become big then its possible but dont expect too much yet its high likely for that money to vanish with gambling and also saving it up
might be ideal but you cant do that much on that amount.If you do value your money and dont like for it to lose then better skip gambling and save it up but if you dont care that much and seek out for
entertainment purposes then theres nothing wrong if you do play gambling but just be sure to know your limitations.
3700  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Satoshi Stop bitcoin? on: August 31, 2020, 11:16:15 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto has done a great job in bitcoin invention, his idea is what many of us are celebrating and enjoying today and we are grateful to have such a great idea, we have all believed that by the decentralized nature of bitcoin, it should be unstoppable by any government,even by Japan where Satoshi was claimed to be a citizen. Now that his idea has been propelled far and wide, do you think he has the capacity to stop it again?
Stopping for what? Im not really that too techy type of person but i presumed out that he cant able to stop on what he had invented.It is designed for it not to be possibly manipulated by no one.
Adoption had already spread into a certain extent thats why its just senseless to think that he would just come out to public and trying to stop bitcoin in means of technical aspect.
This might be a non-sense topic but for the sake of discussion then it isnt half-bad either.

Who would be the one to stop a revolutionary invention that he do sees that it did help lots of people? Getting away from centralization and to be your own bank?
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