Nothing will change. You'll still have the young, the adult, the old. The only thing that will change is your relation to TIME. Instead of 24 hours your pocket watch will have cycles of 24 000 years... Some trees live for multiple thousands of years. No big deal. We will be like trees, but with a home and a hammock on Ganymede.  It's going to take a lot of terra-forming to make Ganymede livable enough to have a hammock on it.  |
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Not all atheists are communists, far, far from it. But if you do not belong to the liberation theology mindset, and you are a communist, then you cannot believe in any deity. It is that simple.
Yet we are all wired to believe and trust as social creatures. That is why you have a delicatessen disguised as a mausoleum with a mummified piece of green meat deity inside, still worshiped by millions...
A strawman is a strawman is a strawman and communism is still a cancer, even for atheists... No miracle cures for that fact. Not even in 2000 years.
Why the fuck are you still talking about communism? What has communism got to do with this discussion? We are talking atheism and theism, Christianity and Islam's 'holy'books, and you appear to be so afraid of a rational discussion involving objective reasoning that you keep derailing the thread to make multiple posts about communism. If you want to talk about communism, make a thread for it. You jokers are so funny when you become emotional in a logical talk.  |
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Atheism is a religion because, we don't have enough knowledge to say for a fact that God doesn't exist, and because there is a lot of evidence in nature that suggests that He does exist. So, is that the way that communism becomes a religion? Is it simply that communists believe that God doesn't exist that makes communism a religion?  |
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* I am not telling what you think isn't right or wrong.
Well I am telling you that in order for you to believe that *any* religious book contains truthful answers to the questions of life you have opted to employ fallacious reasoning or, for that matter, you are insufficiently able to practice objective reasoning or critical thinking. For you to 'choose' the Islamic version of 'truth' is no difference to any other theism. Your book contains statements which purport to be true, yet common sense would tell you, for instance, that if I were to say to you that I had a vision of a god speaking to me while I was having an epileptic fit, chances are pretty damn likely the experience I had was caused by neurological misfiring taking place. But because your book is chock full of 'mystical' woo and magic, which you again fail to question sufficiently, you choose to believe that your 'prophet' was, indeed, a messenger spoken to regularly by a god. Because, you know, he said so. Your failure to recognise that him saying so is no different, IN ANY WAY, from me saying so, is why your erroneously believing you have a worthwhile investment in that particular brand of intellectual dishonesty, continues to deceive the one small part of your mind that is capable of acknowledging that you're not being particularly honest about how you choose to look at your theism-of-choice. I get that everybody wants answers to the deep, meaningful, questions. What I don't get is the willingness most show towards simply accepting when one person, or a group of people, profess to have those answers and that all you have to do is accept their word for it. In any other aspect of your life you would not accept that, but when it comes to theism, you give it a 'special' pass on looking too closely at it for fear of seeing all the cracks and flaws it is riddled with. Here's something for you, to keep this post on topic, most American Christians profess their love of the Bible, particularly the King James Version, which is full of 'thee' and 'thou' and much in the way of olde-worlde English terms and phrases. Except that at the time King James commissioned it, most people didn't actually speak that way anymore, but he specifically required his version of the Bible maintain the old-fashioned-even-for-back-then style of language because he felt, quite rightly it turned out, that people would be more inclined to feel it had gravitas and deep meaning. So, today, we see the Xtian yanks citing Bible quote after Bible quote with their hearts aflutter at the use of 'thee' and 'thou' etc. etc. completely oblivious to the fact that it is an artificial spin on the original texts. Well, this is only your belief. So, it is your religion. In a test of religions, I wonder whose would show true strength? |
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Interesting article, but I think get old is a part of the life so why 'destroy' or cancel it?
It will be the peer pressure. Even if you want to get old and die, your friends will talk you out of it. IMO this kind of stuff are for super rich people. Except that here are as many as 3,000 varieties of astragalus, the plant group that contains the TA-65 (telomerase) that really works to reduce aging. And this is on top of all sorts of other age reducers that work in part. Consider grape see extract - proanthocyanidins. This product has been reducing the effects of aging for years now by its antioxidant qualities. Back in the early '90s, you couldn't even find grape seed extract. Now you can buy it relatively inexpensively - $20 a pound or less. We have bovine pituitary extract, which helps the brain and endocrine systems by producing natural HGH in the body. We have pregnenolone, the master hormone, which converts on demand in the body into at least 99 other hormones. On the not so accepted side, we have MMS (chlorine dioxide) for internal use to kill of pathogens. This product has been around for over 100 years, used as drinking water purification. But we are only finding out, now, within the last 20 years or so, how it kills all kinds of bacteria and viruses throughout the whole body if taken in much stronger doses than when used for water purification. And it is close to dirt cheap. We have ozone and H 2O 2 intravenous and direct injection therapies (generally not generally available in the USA; go to Mexico) that kill off all kinds of cancer. Most of our natural, ground drinking water has metallic minerals in it. Metallic minerals harm and kill plants, animals and people because our bodies cannot absorb them properly. We now have fulvic acid and other humic acids that convert metallic minerals in water into ionic minerals that are actually good for you. Amazon sells fulvic acid relatively inexpensively. Fifteen years ago the price was 10 times what it is now, and you could hardly find it. These are only a few of the things that can slow down aging right now. When TA-65 (telomerase) becomes readily available, its price will come down as well. It is happening right now a little as people realize that astragulus is available all over the place, out in nature. As this unfolds, more and more the only way that people will be able to die is if they get hit by a Mack truck. In addition, there is all kinds of research going on to reduce aging. The only way to make money off what works is to sell it to the masses. The only way for the masses to be able to afford it is to bring the price down. Will the 1,000-year-old person ever happen? We won't know until a thousand years are up. But many of us who are around today, may be joyfully alive on some planet revolving around a distant star, a thousand years from now.  From the above listed website: A declaration of ownership was filed with the United Nations as well as the US and Russian governments in 1980 by Mr. Dennis M. Hope of the Lunar Embassy, to ensure that a legal basis for the ownership of the properties sold here can be claimed. On that wonderful day in 1980, the Lunar Embassy was born. Legal is not necessarily lawful. In the U.S., Canada, and the U.K. (and India, Bangladesh and Australia, as well), people who use the old common law trump anything that is legal. They trump legal because the common law is the foundation of these nations. Take time out to find out what is really going on in the different worlds of "legal" and "lawful." Listen and become free. Listen to Karl, Bill and others in the 4 audios at http://www.youarelaw.org/common-law-discussion-karl-lentz-billy-thornton/. |
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Where I'm headed with that is that if I was Muslim I'd consider it a severe insult for extremists to have hijacked what are essentially from that world view, sacred words.
i agree with you. but that does not change anything. i blame them for using sacred words to propagate their hate, their massacre and their false view about Islam, but that does not change Islam and the Quraan. it is not because of THEM fools that you put blatant accusations on a religion. besides, another person with another faith and beliefs put a mask and say the same words, doesnt make them a muslim either. doesnt make Islam and the Quraan hate violent accolades. But I'd also, if I was a Muslim, laugh off people making cartoons about Mohammed. I'd spend my time on the severe insults to my religion from WITHIN my religion. Therein lies the true Great Satan. which i do, and many like me do the same. . . Well that makes a great deal of sense then. At the base and core is this great difference between Christianity and Islam. It is the difference that makes Islam look like a religion of hate to the Christian (and it is not the words of violence in the Quran). The difference is that the Christian understands that Jesus is God, and that only Jesus saves. The Islamite believes other than this. This makes the Christian world feel that Islam hates those that it takes into false belief, finally to their destruction, by pulling them away from the truth of the only salvation, Jesus salvation. Any person who stands on the simplistic idea that the only thing that exists is what we see around us, may be inclined to be an atheist. He might suggest that all religions are a bunch of silliness. But to the people of the religions, their pet religion is a way of life that is very important to them. The question is, what is the truth of the whole question of God and religion? A second question is, why do you think so? |
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Few people saw the vids of bldg 7's implosion. Few people will even look at it. Of those who do, not everyone will understand what they are seeing. Even the most basic aspects of structural engineering and basic physical science are beyond most people's grasp.
If a person is disposed to trust the government (and most people are) they will be disposed to accept at face value assertions that there are 'scientific' explanations for the structure's collapse absent a classic controlled demolition. The designers of the event were aware of this.
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I have knowledge of structural engineering, I have seen the videos, and see no problem with the collapse being a side effect of the towers, eg domino effects of column 76 going down. Such domino effects are what is USED in controlled demolition, but that does not make it a fact that any domino effect in a building collapse is a controlled demolition. And I don't trust the government. But saying "I don't trust government" one has to note that there are many governments, each with it's own objectives, not just the US. Spendulus. I almost can't believe that you are saying this. There is some slim chance that one of the Towers could come down the way that they did, sort of naturally. But both of them is stretching the odds all out of shape. If Building 7 came down as a result of the things that happened with the Towers, rather than by controlled demolition, everyone who is in any of the big buildings in that area is in danger. If Building 7 came down through the little bit of debris that flew off the Towers and hit it, then it was built entirely structurally unsound. And if it was built unsound, then all the buildings in the area that were built similarly are unsound. People should get out and run for their lives. It is only a miracle that ANY of the buildings have lasted as long as they have. |
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Interesting article, but I think get old is a part of the life so why 'destroy' or cancel it?
It will be the peer pressure. Even if you want to get old and die, your friends will talk you out of it. IMO this kind of stuff are for super rich people. Except that here are as many as 3,000 varieties of astragalus, the plant group that contains the TA-65 (telomerase) that really works to reduce aging. And this is on top of all sorts of other age reducers that work in part. Consider grape see extract - proanthocyanidins. This product has been reducing the effects of aging for years now by its antioxidant qualities. Back in the early '90s, you couldn't even find grape seed extract. Now you can buy it relatively inexpensively - $20 a pound or less. We have bovine pituitary extract, which helps the brain and endocrine systems by producing natural HGH in the body. We have pregnenolone, the master hormone, which converts on demand in the body into at least 99 other hormones. On the not so accepted side, we have MMS (chlorine dioxide) for internal use to kill of pathogens. This product has been around for over 100 years, used as drinking water purification. But we are only finding out, now, within the last 20 years or so, how it kills all kinds of bacteria and viruses throughout the whole body if taken in much stronger doses than when used for water purification. And it is close to dirt cheap. We have ozone and H 2O 2 intravenous and direct injection therapies (generally not generally available in the USA; go to Mexico) that kill off all kinds of cancer. Most of our natural, ground drinking water has metallic minerals in it. Metallic minerals harm and kill plants, animals and people because our bodies cannot absorb them properly. We now have fulvic acid and other humic acids that convert metallic minerals in water into ionic minerals that are actually good for you. Amazon sells fulvic acid relatively inexpensively. Fifteen years ago the price was 10 times what it is now, and you could hardly find it. These are only a few of the things that can slow down aging right now. When TA-65 (telomerase) becomes readily available, its price will come down as well. It is happening right now a little as people realize that astragulus is available all over the place, out in nature. As this unfolds, more and more the only way that people will be able to die is if they get hit by a Mack truck. In addition, there is all kinds of research going on to reduce aging. The only way to make money off what works is to sell it to the masses. The only way for the masses to be able to afford it is to bring the price down. Will the 1,000-year-old person ever happen? We won't know until a thousand years are up. But many of us who are around today, may be joyfully alive on some planet revolving around a distant star, a thousand years from now. |
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This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever
There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together. In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are. Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is). The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public. Prove it, one way or the other. You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are? The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are. No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling? We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists. We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist. We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists. What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is. 0/10 troll To those who want to believe lies, others who point out the lies they believe, seem like trolls to them. People who point out the lies that others believe, seem like trolls to those who want to believe the lies. We don't know what the stars are. We don't know what dark matter is. All we have are a bunch of ideas and a few theories. Most of it doesn't fit together very well. Wake up and see that you are believing science fiction. The ideas and theories are nice stories, but we don't really know to what extent they are truth. |
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This is it about overunity. If we can see the source of the energy, then we know it is not overunity. If we can't see or determine the source of the energy, then we will have to wait until we know everything to determine whether or not it is overunity. Why? Because we don't know for sure that there is not a source that we aren't aware of. |
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This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever
There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together. In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are. Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is). The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public. Prove it, one way or the other. You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are? The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are. No way to prove the stars exist? Dont we see the sun? With our own eyes actually. We can also feel its heat. Do you really need more proofs than that? I mean i seriously dont understand your point, serious question are you trolling? We see something. We call it the sun. So, the sun exists. We see something that we call the stars. The stars exist. We see darkness around the stars. We call some of it dark matter. Dark matter exists. What they all are is a big question. The sun may be different than the stars. The stars may be pinholes in the blanket of dark matter. Who knows? We have lots of observations and theories regarding the sun, the stars, and maybe even dark matter. We have no proof, although we may be close to getting some proof about what the sun is. |
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I don't think that most people 'love being slaves', but more that they know no other option. Indeed, they really have no other option. Beyond that, up until this time being a 'slave', or more charitably a part of a herd or flock on a people-farm, does indeed provide a better 'quality of life' than the alternative. Our peers may not understand this specifically but they sense it intuitively (and again, probably correctly.) A chicken in a chicken farm has a tolerable life and know no other. They have plenty to eat and a roof to keep the rain off. Their troubles come when they get to old to lay eggs at an acceptable rate.
Actually, people have other options. Bitcoin is the way that we can live and trade when... More and more people are succeeding with the Karl Lentz method to get out of taxation and all kinds of other things. Four audios take about 4 hours, but are worth it - http://www.youarelaw.org/common-law-discussion-karl-lentz-billy-thornton/. |
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First, people ARE artificial intelligence. Only God is the real intelligence.
Let's try not to get religious. It can get quite messy. Good idea. After all, only God is intelligent enough to understand the truth about religion anyway. Stop it. Are you placing your order? You should really up-front me some cash, sorta like a down payment, just so I get something when I comply. |
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This thread is now full f the shittiest explanations for the existance of God, no scientific proof whatsoever
There is no proof that there are constellations. The groupings of stars that we call constellations can be grouped by anybody in any way that they want. Stars in many (most) of the constellations are not near enough to each other to suggest that they should be grouped together. In fact, there is little proof that stars exist at all. You have heard of dark matter. A bunch of scientists made up a bunch of stories and a bunch of math regarding what stars and dark matter are. Yet nobody has been close enough to any star - even the sun - to say for sure what it is. And nobody has even sent space vehicles close enough to any star other than the sun, to even SUGGEST what they ACTUALLY are. Perhaps the ancients were right. Perhaps dark matter is the blanket with the pinholes. Perhaps the light coming through the pinholes is the light from Heaven (whatever that is). The star wobble that we see, that we interpret as planets moving around some of the stars, might simply be some kind of space/aether aberration that hasn't been identified yet... at least not to the public. Prove it, one way or the other. You just went full retard, never go full retard. Like are you seriously questioning if the sun exists of if there are other stars? Are you just a troll? Because damn Now it seems to be you who are going religious. Since there isn't any way to prove that stars exist in the standard way we think about them, who really knows what they are? The closest thing we can do is recognize that God exists - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395 - and then try to see if He has any explanation for us as to what the stars really are. |
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If this was an inside job like many believe, those that perpetrated the whole thing aren't likely going to ever be prosecuted until the afterlife.
I don't know. A quantum time viewer may be in the works that can show who did it.  |
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Leave the Saudi, even own US people were behind 9/11. There are so much evidences to prove that in public domain.
I shall not. C'mon, Wilikon. Be reasonable. Everybody knows that it is the FBI that is slyly helping the people to think that 9/11 was an inside job. |
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First, people ARE artificial intelligence. Only God is the real intelligence.
Let's try not to get religious. It can get quite messy. Good idea. After all, only God is intelligent enough to understand the truth about religion anyway. |
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Interesting article, but I think get old is a part of the life so why 'destroy' or cancel it?
It will be the peer pressure. Even if you want to get old and die, your friends will talk you out of it. |
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That would be fantastic if it's true, especially if it has none of the drawbacks a lot of ideas to do with long life have.
Not sure if you want a Wilikon continually posting new threads for the next 1000 years though... Think of all the little Wilikons there will be running around by then. |
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