Honestly, Frody is strict as hell to the point that it piss me off sometimes, but I never complain simply because I know that nobody is perfect, and those annoying stuff that he might do from time to time can't negate the great stuff he does most of the time, so I chose to ingore mosts of them and appreciate the time and efforts he invests in the mining board, I can say without a doubt that the mining board has the lowest amount of spam/off-topics, if you aren't serious and don't chose your words carefully the mining board won't be sutible for you.

I do however, recognize your rights to post images of any size you see fit, 150  is more like the standard in the mining section, it's annoying to have to click the image to see it, but frod seems to want that standard to be applied regadless of how unclear some images might become when reduced to such a size.

Having said that and based on my personal experince, frod is a reasonable guy who would reply your PMs regarding any questions, he edited and deleted a ton of my own posts mostly because I quoted posts which were slightly off-topic or are on topic but contain some off-topic information, I reached out to him many times and most of the time he will reply within a short period of time and explain his actions, you should have sent him a PM when that happened, I am sure the outcome would haven better, he is a friendly dude regadless of the heavy hands he has got.

I couldn't. 

Pump. 

It isn't actually a higher payout "rate", PPS rates will be same for 1TH vs 10PH, but it's a higher payout "total" as a result of a reduced mining fee which can range between 10% to probably 50% , the largest discount I got from Viabtc was 40% IIRC.


They don't because =>10PH is a long shot, it could be 100PH or a 1000PH, so they expect you to negotiate with them, you could probably get some discount even before getting to that 10PH mark, most pools are operated by Chinese, they can be negotiated, heck! Binance even negotiated the listing fees and they went to as far as asking "how much could DGB team pay", and speaking of Binance, they now run a fairly large FPPS pool with 2.5% fees, so pools that ask for 4% will most likely give you a discount if you point say 2-4PH, you just got to try your luck and for that I wish you the best of luck.

Hey fellow miners.

What would be a good alternative to the "Black glue" that you use to stick the heatsink on the chip, I need to find something locally since shipping from China takes forever, so any links from Amazon or Ebay for me to get the proper specs so that I know what to look for.

So far a friend of mine told me that "Heatsink Plaster Star 922" will do the job just fine, can somebody conifmr/deny?

Thanks.

فقط للعلم ال 12 كلمة الخاصة بك لا يعرفها احد حتى اصحاب المحفظة والمصممين نفسهم, تقوم المحفظة بانشاء تلك الكلمات بصورة عشؤائية عند تحميل المحفظة وتتبيتها على جهازك, تستعمل هده الكلمات لاستخراج ال Private keys لكل العنواين لكل العملات الموجودة في المحفظة, يعني مشاركتها اسواء من مشاركة المفتاح الخاص, عند مشاركة المفتاح الخاص لعنوان بتكوين واحد مثلا, كل مايكمن للسارق فعله هوا تحويل المبلغ الموجود في العنوان التي ينشاء من تلك البرافيت كي, اما بمعرفة ال seed فيمكنه استخراج جميع العنواين لجميع العملات وسرقة كل شي في محفظتك لذلك حتى وان طلب منك الموقع الرسمي نفسه مشاركة هده الكلمات لا تقم بذلك ابدا.

مشكور جدا اخ يحى على التنبيه, بالرغم من ان هده الحيل قديمة الا اني واثق انا الكثير لازال يصدقها.

A single S9 makes abit over $30 a month, and they ROI in less than 2 months (actually just about month), not sure if that is "pennies", anyway since he has free power and doesn't state any limit then it's only wise to utilize that, buying the same gears ast people who pay 4-6 cents and taking a huge risk of a far longer duration to ROI isn't something I would do, what seems to be confusing here is that S9 is 14TH while T17 is 61th, so it makes one thinks that S9 makes a tiny bit of profit but this is a bad way of looking at things, it's not just 14th vs 61th, it's simply

T17+ = 18$ per TH
S9     = 2.14$  per  TH

If he was to invest $16500 he could buy either:

1- 915TH  and needs 46  KW   (T17+)

or

2- 7,700TH and needs 687 KW  (S9)

That is 2200$  VS $18,550 monthly profit, obviosuly to build a 600+ KW farm will cost him more than bulidng 40+ KW farm in terms of infrastructure, but with a monthly profit of $16,300 more with S9s the initial cost of the build will be paid for very shorty.

Obviosuly things will be different if he has a LIMITED power supply of say 10kw then it's not worth buying 8 S9s and he would be better of following your advice, I personally own a small farm that is limited by a certain amount of power and mining with S9s there isn't worth it anymore, so I use much more effienct gears in that place, I also have a 300KVA transformer and a pretty large building somewhere else, i would be stupid if I bought anything but S9s there, but what do I know? 

Exactly what I am trying to state here, Kano claims his pool has the best code and connectivity, the only source for these claims are obviously his own words which I for obvious reasons can't trust without an inpedenent review of his claims, he could have lost 10 blocks and all went unnoticed, just like any pool could, so to claim that you never lost a block without providing a proof on how does your code/connectivety prevent this and how do they differ from other well known large pools who can afford to pay the best devs on planet and rent or probably own their own high-end servers.

We know about the last block cksolo pool lost because that person happen to check his miner's best share (mainly due to the fact that he was mining solo) we don't know many blocks in TOTAL did ckpool (non-solo) lose neither do we know about Kano's pool, and since "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" we can't tell if Kano lost a few blocks without knowing or actually he knows but never admitted it, it remains a guess, so unless he states a straight forward proof to support his claim, I will still believe that he is simply promoting his mining pool.

Ok perhaps that was poor wordings on my side, changed that nobody to almost nobody, you are right, but this doesn't invalidate the point that the motive to watch blocks found on a PPS pool or a very large PPLNS is slim to nothing when compared to mining solo, maybe even "almost nobody" is far from accurate but i am sure you get the point.

Still waiting for Kano to answer my question and show us all on what bases can a mining pool claim they never lost a block when nobody has access to their database, not saying it can't be done, i am simply asking a question and willing to be educated on the subject.

How can anyone tell if your pool or any other mining pool for that matter actually lost a block and the miner didn't notice it? what if due to a packet loss caused by a server faliture or a connection problem from the pool side caused a loss of a block and went unnoticed, or even worse what if the pool lost a block due to the exact reasons CK pool lost some blocks?

I am not attacking your pool or anything else, I know CK could have prevented the last block if he had the right resources, I am not making excuses for him, actually running a solo pool is the best test since almost EVERYONE looks at their miner's status, but when mining on a pool especially if it's a PPS and in the grand scheme of things almost NOBODY watches their status simply because finding a block won't make them earn an extra penny, so really, how can someone (doesn't have to be you) claim that their pool never lost a block? based on what?



I am probably the one who likes Kano the least here, but the concerns he has should be answered, if -ck refuses to answer them, then it's your duty as the pool owner to answer these questions and deny Kano's accusations, if the software your pool uses is the same one that lost a few blocks due to what Kano claims to be "lack of testing" then why would miners trust your pool? if -ck has has already fixed those issues (assuming there are issues aside from the inadequate server resources he had) then him or you should state that, if -ck now runs a different version from the one on github then that should be also stated, if Kano is making stuff up because of the personal issues between him and -ck then -ck should at least deny the allegations either by posting here personally or through you as the pool owner/manager.

Feel free to ignore my oppinion since i am not one of your clients, I have zero issues with -ck in fact I do like him, but when it comes to being honest when giving unbiased oppinion, Kano's terrible attitude doesn't get in the way of my judgment.

قرات المقال ويبدو ان صاحب المفحظة قد تم تعويضه بنصف القيمة التي خسرها, من وجهة نظري هدا التعويض عادل, بغض النظر عن هدا الخطاء الفادح في البرمجة الا ان الخطاء من الاساس يقع على عاتق المستخدم, فكل ماهو متعلق بالكريبتو يعتمد اساسا على حس مسئولية المستخدم, ومهما كانت البرمجة مثالية يمكن الوقوع في هده الاخطاء وقد حدث معي ذلك في الماضي عند استقبال لايتكوين على محفظة بتكوين  وهدا كان خطائي وحدي وليس خطاء المحفظة.

عنواين Nested SegWit P2SH الخاصة بالبتكوين والتي تبدا ب الرقم 3 هي نفس عناوين SegWit P2SH الخاصة بالايتكوين, ففي هده الحالة تكون المحفظة مجبرة على قبول التحويل وقد تم التحويل فعلا, وكان هدا مقابل كوبونات بتماين قمت ببيعها لشخص ما وبدلا من ارسال عنوان لايت كوين قمت بارسال عنوان بتكوين وكانت هده العنواين صادرة عن محفظة Coinomi ولكن لاني كنت احتفط ب Mnemonic Seed قامو باعطائي رابط لاداة  BIP39 tool وقمت باستخراج ال Private key واستعادة الايت كوين.

الملخص, يجب عليك التأكد من العنوان على الاقل 5 مرات قبل الارسال.

شكرا للاخ Omega على نقل هدا الموضوع الشيق, حاولت ايضا استخلاص نتيجة من اين اتو بعنوان البتكوين ذلك بدون جدوة, حاولت استخراج عنوان بتكوين من البرافيت كي لعنوان doge ولكن بدون فائدة.

Here is a test wallet, I sent some BTC , then sent it to a Doge address, it went through just like how OP explained, there is 0 relationship between the address Atomic wallet sends btc to and the seed, I tried all different combination like using Doge's PK to magically generate a BTC address, nothing worked, the address they send to is pretty strange


12-word BIP39


Doge Address which BTC was sent to:


Doge's PK


BTC addresss Atomic (magically) sent to


My atomic BTC addy (m/44'/0'/0'/0/0)


BTC addy PK:

Facts:

Bitmain owns:

-Antpool and BTC.com


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitmain

Bitmain openly admits ownership of both pools.

- Bitmain invested 2.9M dollars with Viabtc

Source: https://www.crunchbase.com/funding_round/viabtc-series-a--58443cc6#section-overview

Viabtc also happened to launch BCH fork which is oneway or the other Bitmain's coin, it's pretty safe to assume that Bitmain has the final say in Viabtc, I learned these information recently, and I stopped mining at Viabtc despite the fact that it is indeed a solid pool. I sadly went back to viabtc after a short while of testing many other pools, nothing was half as good, i will indeed leave viabtc for good once another good pool is found.

Rumors:

Poolin is owned by a Bitmain's former employees, conspiracy theories suggest that bitmain still has control over them, however, they are actually fighting in court over Poolin mining pool, so it's unlikely that the co-founders of Poolin are "controlled" by Bitmain anymore.

Fans are pretty cheap, and since you have free power then you wouldn't worry much about the tiny amount of power they will consume running on higher RPM, so during summer time you might want to increase the fan-speed keep them static at say 90-100%, this is what I do to go through hot summer days, remember that you have some of the lowest quality gears (17 series) those have a very bad solder paste and high temps will eventually and easily break them, it's great to have gears of such size but the downside is that if you happen to lose a board then that's a lot of hashrate gone with the wind.



Thanks a lot for the information guys, I think I now have a better understanding about these insulation boards, I will try to source them locally.

This kit contains a few unneccessery stuff like Antistatic mat, gloves and even the DC power supply isn't needed here, he could use the miner's PSU, if he would open a repair shop he could probably invest in all those tools, but to simply fix your own miners and perhabs some of your friends', then my suggestion is to watch the repair videos and write down a list of the things they use.

Also if you are planning on buying the test fixture tool, I suggest you wait for a while, the latest one they have now is for the 17 series and S9/T9, and I am sure pretty soon they will make one for the 19 series, you might need that later on when you buy S19/S19pro/T19 gears, it would be cheaper to buy it once than having to buy it again when the time comes.

في يوم 1-6-2020 قام الاخ خالد بمراسلتي لاخد المشورة في موضوع الاتصال ببعض الاعضاء في القسم الانجليزي الذين كانو يدريون حملة تبرعان اخرى ( اعتقد متعلقة بوباء الكورونا), وقد اخبرني انه تواصل مع احدهم ويفكر في الاتصال مع عضو اخر لكي ييقوم بدعم محفظة التبرعات التي قام بها الاخ خالد, هدا كل ما اعرفه عن الموضوع حتى هده اللحظة.

اما بخصوص الصور فأنا عن نفسي قمت بالمساهمة اولا لوجه الله, وتانيا لانني اثق في الاخ خالد, فموضوع الاتبات والصور هدا امر شكلي ورمزي يسهل التلاعب به لذلك عامل الثقة هوا الاساس, وانا اتفهم ان مثل هده المسؤولية كبيرة وليست سهلة, ايضا عامل الثقة قد يشكل حاجز للكثير من الناس, لذلك معظم الناس يفضلون ان يتبرعو او يتصدقو لاشخاص يعرفونهم شخصيا, على العموم كانت بادرة طيبة نتمنى ان تكون في مزان حسنات كل من ساهم فيها ولو بكلمة طيبة.

بالتوفيق للجميع.

I guess you mean 5 hours and not 5 years right?  , anyway the network is really congested at the moment, mempool is at 62m bytes and there are currently more than 16,000 transactions with 145+ sats/byte fees, and just about the same number or more between 100 and 145 sats, so you got to wait.
 

Did you just copy-paste my mini-farm? that is mining plagiarism, ya like the split-room was my idea anyway.  

Such a neat set-up you got right there, very well done, I should send you some merit as soon as my bag is filled.

I wish I could find those 25mm insulation boards where I live, do they have a more common name? like a material name or something, I am stuck with MDF sheets that are hard to cut, I have to use a CNC machine to get the wholes close to perfect and it still end up a bit off.

What is the total power consumption at the moment? 90-100kw ? Make sure your 3 phases are balanced to avoid getting into troubles, also wait for a hot day to come by and test all wires' temperature to see if they are warm / hot, I became paranoid after the last incident and the new farm has over-sized wiring to avoid any unplanned fireworks.

This is mainly because of the mining proftiblity which has to do with the blockrewards+fees and their value in FIAT, the amount of security is based largely on the mining rewards in $ of any given coin, bitcoin has security overhead because of it's mining profitability and nothing else, if a shitcoin like BCH was to gain value and people are willing to pay $9,000 for it, BCH will have the exact same hashrate, let's do some maths.

BCH has a market cap of 4.2B and a hashrate of 2.8EH , so that's 0.66 Billion dollars worth of hashrate for every billion dollars worth of value, BTC has 173.2B market cap and 115EH that's exactly 0.66 billion dollar worth of hashrate for every billion worth of value.

BTC is 41x more secured than BCH not because people hate Roger and Bitmain, it's because of the simple fact that bitcoin is worth 41x BCH.

Other coins with 5% the market cap of btc have 5% worth of hashrate, remember that miners don't mine the coin they love or believe in, they simply mine the coin that is profitable, and profiblity has to do with rewards and the value of those rewards in fiat.

If bitcoin goes up 100% in price, there will be enough room for double the hashrate, if it goes down 50% there will be 50% less room for the current hashrate (not exactly but more or less), obviously it will also be 50% less worthy of an attack, but it will be easier for someone who isn't doing it for profit, someone like a king or a dictator of some rich country.


Exactly, and this is where price becomes a more essential factor of mining secruity/decentralization, when block rewards fall to 0.78BTC in 2032, BTC has to be worth $112,000 in order for the same amount of hashrate to remain profitble, assuming the fees are also 0.78BTC btc can be safely trading at 112k/2 or $56,000, if fees are 7.8BTC price can be $11,200 without effecting the current hashrate, the bet here is that fees go higher in number and value, while price keeps climbing up slow and steady, and I am confident that we will achieve that.

مبدا التداول الالي و Trading Bots / Automated Trading في حد ذاته فعال وممتاز ولكن البوتات الموجود للبيع من وجهة نظري لاتستحق العناء خصوصا تلك المدفوعة منها, البوت هوا عبارة عن تنفيد تلقائي لاوامر بيع وشراء مبنية على "استراجية التداول الخاصة بك" واي شخص لديه استراتجية خاصة به لن يقوم ببيعها او على الاقل هدا ما اعتقده.

ولكن ان كان لديك استراجية رابحة مثل ولنقل انك تستمعل متوسط الحركة الاسبوعي 21,  واستراجيتك هي الشراء في حال اغلاق السعر اعلا متوسط الحركة MA تقوم بالشراء وتبيع عند صعود السعر 10%, وفي حال الاغلاق اسفل المتوسط تقوم بالخروج من الصفقة, لو كانت هدي استراجيتك وانت راضي عن ادائها ولاتريد ان تجلس اما الشاشة 24 ساعة يمكنك برمجة بوت او الاستعانة ببوت قابل للبرمجة ليقوم بتنفيد الاستراجية التي تملكها انت, اما ان تشتري بوت يعمل باستراجية صممها شخص اخر فالاحتمال الاكبر انك ستخسر.

How is 250 days to ROI a " good bang for buck", it's more like how to waste your money in 250 days, plus those prices are in China, so you are looking for 100-200$ for shipping, still have tax and all that, but let's be optistmic and say it's a $1100 (no tax) for T17+ 61TH.

Daily profit = $4.65
Monthly = $139.5

$1100/ 139.5 = just about 8 months.

1- It's unlikely that difficulty won't go any higher despite what the price does for a period of 8 months.
2- It's HIGHLY unlikely that the gear will have 0% failure for a period of 8 months.

So my concnsulion which I am willing to take a bet on is that you will need at least a whole year to ROI that IF EVER, unless of course, bitcoin goes to 30-50k in no time, and still in that case holding BTC would be a better option.

Someone with free electity should go with an used S9, so a few offers for $25-$30 including PSU in the U.S , that's 30 days to ROI if you have free power, be on the safe side and count 2 months to ROI , it's 2 months Vs 8 months (the best case sncerio of all those 17series), also statstically speaking, a used S9 has higher chance to run for 2 months straight than a T17/S17 to run for 8 months.

But again everybody treats the mining business in a different way, my main method has been focusing on ROI in the first place, based on factors that include difficulty, price uncertainty, gears failure, and etc. the safest route you take when investing in mining IMO is how fast will you get your money back before "the shit hits the fan", I still remember those 1st/2nd S17 batches, those who paid $4000 nearly 14 months ago, they paid just about a WHOLE BTC thinking they would ROI in 6-8 months, and we all know how it ended up for most of them.

I am not trying to discourage anybody here, but newbies should be aware that mining isn't a game anymore, it's a business and most people lose money doing business, and those who have no clue about running a business shouldn't be mining anymore, unless you are doing it for fun.