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3701  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 20, 2014, 11:08:03 PM
The gold auction has started. It will end Wed 18:00 GMT as promised. Making tactical bids now may be an advantage.
3702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 10 lots of 1,000 CK gold each -> 2014-10-22, 18:00 GMT on: October 20, 2014, 11:03:45 PM
Above: Added that auction does actually work with XMR only, and it must be bought first in Poloniex (recommended).
3703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 10 lots of 1,000 CK gold each -> 2014-10-22, 18:00 GMT on: October 20, 2014, 11:02:20 PM
This is an ingame item. Please see the rules of the game, Crypto Kingdom Version 1: Genesis, before making a bid.

It is advisable to read the game thread also, starting from the announcement that it accepts characters, at least.

As part of the HM The King's gold sales, mandated by the rules, 10 lots of 1,000 units of CK gold each, will be offered for auction.

By buying from this auction, you may also be entitled to the "MEW bonus" and "early poster" bonus that will automatically be added to the gold you have bought.

The bids are to be given in the following format: "quantity @ price (XMR)". For example "2000 @ 0.11".

The reserve price is 0.05 and no more than 2 decimals, so the bidding starts at 0.06.

Higher bid wins over lower one, earlier bid wins over later one, and all winners pay the same amount per lot (the price of the lowest winning bid that still wins).

The right to participate in the auction is limited as follows:
- if it is not legal for you to do so, cannot participate
- negative trust rating, cannot participate
- Newbie and Junior Members, limited to 1 lot
- Senior Members or higher, or existing players of the game, limited to 10 lots (all).

The winners who are already not characters, will be created characters in the game after they pay for the gold and supply the character stats (age, sex, nick).

Auction closes 6 pm GMT Wednesday, BCT server time, or one minute after the last winning bid (in case a winning bid was submitted during the last minute, the auction lasts as long as there are no new winning bids submitted in one minute since the previous one).

Gold bought in this auction must be paid in 24 hours in monero (XMR). XMR can be bought with BTC here. Non-payment is considered default and results in forfeiture of game assets, or denial to enter the game at a later time, as well as loss of reputation and trust rating.

HM The King reserves the right to make clarifications.
3704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: 10 lots of 1,000 CK gold each -> 2014-10-22, 18:00 GMT on: October 20, 2014, 11:00:02 PM
Reserve bid submitted for clarity:

10,000 @ 0.05 HM The King (rpietila)

Proxy bid:

1,000 @ 0.30 fluffypony


Fluffypony does not necessarily think that 0.30 is the right price, but according to the rules of the auction, since he is the first bidder with a high bid, he can secure himself 1,000 gold and pay the amount that the other bidders have deemed to be the market price.
3705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / 10 lots of 1,000 CK gold each -> 2014-10-22, 18:00 GMT on: October 20, 2014, 10:57:05 PM
This is an ingame item. Please see the rules of the game, Crypto Kingdom Version 1: Genesis, before making a bid.

It is advisable to read the game thread also, starting from the announcement that it accepts characters, at least.

As part of the HM The King's gold sales, mandated by the rules, 10 lots of 1,000 units of CK gold each, will be offered for auction.

By buying from this auction, you may also be entitled to the "MEW bonus" and "early poster" bonus that will automatically be added to the gold you have bought.

The bids are to be given in the following format: "quantity @ price (XMR)". For example "2000 @ 0.11".

The reserve price is 0.05 and no more than 2 decimals, so the bidding starts at 0.06.

Higher bid wins over lower one, earlier bid wins over later one, and all winners pay the same amount per lot (the price of the lowest winning bid that still wins).

The right to participate in the auction is limited as follows:
- if it is not legal for you to do so, cannot participate
- negative trust rating, cannot participate
- Newbie and Junior Members, limited to 1 lot
- Senior Members or higher, or existing players of the game, limited to 10 lots (all).

The winners who are already not characters, will be created characters in the game after they pay for the gold and supply the character stats (age, sex, nick).

Auction closes 6 pm GMT Wednesday, BCT server time, or one minute after the last winning bid (in case a winning bid was submitted during the last minute, the auction lasts as long as there are no new winning bids submitted in one minute since the previous one).

Gold bought in this auction must be paid in 24 hours. Non-payment is considered default and results in forfeiture of game assets, or denial to enter the game at a later time.

HM The King reserves the right to make clarifications.
3706  Other / Archival / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 20, 2014, 10:19:59 PM
David, rpietela,

I sent the 100 XMR to the adress 4B8suUor7am45MUc7pH3EZeH2UumpWFYHhnHkLvffgsLCY3PF1ShEF3dnGQ615Nq4RBk9M4JKyeRS1E 5jCm23gytJ5R1Xe6 , before seen the message from David to pay with a payment ID. Have you receive the payment ?

It is accounted for, thank you.

Also all the others who have had dues, except saddambitcoin and AdamWhite have been registered as having paid. These guys should contact David soon with the payment practicalities (after 72 hours from the allocation their deal will be cancelled and meanwhile the price has risen).
3707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 20, 2014, 08:50:01 PM
Where to play this game???

You can make money in this game right?
What benefits I get to pay 100xmr for 1k gold?

This I would leave for some of the current 18 characters in the game to answer Smiley They have found it worthwhile, so speak out!
3708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 20, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
Just a sidenote - CK stone must be one of the hardest to get items in existence:

- first you need to buy BTC
- then exchange it for XMR
- then buy CK gold, which is not even available except as trickles and even then for the ones who fulfil other criteria
- then, slowly, the CK gold generates the CK stone.

 Grin

17 people in the world have at least some CK stone. The list will be posted here in about 14 hours.
3709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 20, 2014, 07:03:08 PM
So there's no chance we can still get gold at 50 XMR for 1000 on Wednesday? How much gold is available then? And it's going to be auction format?

The original planned price of gold was 0.10. That I happened to sell almost all my stash out in the first 2 hours at 0.05 was a sort of mistake, and did in fact verify to me that the original price was better thought of than the initial price. Well, the game got kickstarted Smiley

The gold will be auctioned. The total quantity is 10,000 gold, and it will be divided to 10 lots of 1,000 gold each. By buying from this auction, you are also entitled to the "MEW bonus" and "early poster" bonus that will be added to the gold you receive.

The bids are to be given in the following format: "quantity @ price (XMR)". For example "2000 @ 0.11". This bid will cost you 220 XMR if it wins (or less since all bids pay the same as the lowest winning bid), and you will receive 2,000 gold + possible bonus gold.

The reserve price is 0.05 and no more than 2 decimals, so the bidding starts at 0.06.

Higher bid wins over lower one, earlier bid wins over later one, and all winners pay the same amount per lot (the price of the lowest winning bid that still wins)

The right to participate in the auction is not limited (except if it is not legal for you to do so). The winners will be created characters in the game after they pay for the gold and supply the character stats (age, sex, nick). Existing characters may take part in the auction.

Auction thread for submitting bids. Auction closes 6 pm GMT Wednesday server time, or one minute after the last winning bid (in case a winning bid was submitted during the last minute, the auction lasts as long as there are no new winning bids submitted in one minute since the previous one).
3710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 20, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
hopefully can pick them up cheaper than 150XMR per 1000 gold on Wednesday

That's the right spirit, man! Smiley

(Oh I wish I could sell more gold but the nature of gold is that of very limited quantity - you would hardly want to buy it if I could create it at will Wink )

The character count is currently 17. You will still be an early adopter  Grin
3711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 20, 2014, 03:24:08 PM
Do you want all players to PM you with their characters age, sex, nickname and title? Or David?

Currently, to me. They are in a database that is viewable only by me and Lord David. He may take the responsibilities later on, and we will get it fully automatized latest for the Version 2: Ancients (2014-11-16).


What I have in mind concerning the administration of the game:

From tomorrow on, when I wake up, I update the registry for transfers made meanwhile, new characters, and stone staking. Then I will publish the biennial bulletin here, in this thread, and continue to do it every day during Genesis. It will contain a dump of the Character database, with all characters, and their gold and stone balances, for interest, and ease of making transactions and offers thereof.

Currently the characters do not have XMR balances and they will not be shown when they do. The ingame XMR management will start when land ownership and building is enabled, this Sunday. Both buying the land (although most of it is given for free) and building require XMR. XMR you are able to get by selling your ingame resources (gold, stone) to His Majesty, or other characters that buy them. It will also be possible to fund your account (send XMR to HM, who will credit you equal value in moneritos).

Again, sorry that I cannot freely sell gold right now. Please post your buying and selling offers to this thread or the IRC channel (crypto-kingdom @ irc.freenode.net). As a guidance of how much the gold might potentially be worth, the following calculation helps:

1000 gold bought now and held until 2015-1-18, will stake you 528,000 stone until that day. The value of this stone if you need to buy it from the game, is 52.8 XMR. The gold will stake XMR from that day onwards, but the amount is unknown and depends on the number of players. The generation of new gold will also revert to a much lower trajectory, again depending on the number of players. The long-term average amount of gold per character in the game is simulated to reach about 50 gold.

Wednesday we will have an open auction for gold for determining the price. My limited sale price now is 150 XMR / 1000 gold, but as said, it is not even available except for "the ancient posters to this thread".
3712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 20, 2014, 02:08:55 PM
I sent the XMRs to David for the private deal with HM.  Smiley

Thank you. Registered.

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Am I eligible to the MEW bonus if I join MEW now? I was thinking to join now, have been very busy and postponing but this might be a good reason to push me!

Yes you are, if all the conditions are fulfilled:

- bonus is 25% extra gold when you buy gold since acquiring the MEW votes, up to the total amount of 25% of your votes.

- bonus is only applied if you buy HM gold, not for second market gold.

- it may temporarily be not possible to cash in the bonus at all, such as now: the situation is that you are not eligible to buy any gold from me, and therefore not receive the bonus. On Wednesday you can buy gold at auction and receive the bonus, likewise if you are a poster to this thread and want to receive that bonus, you can also receive the MEW bonus.

- when this bonus offering is about to be closed (it will, during the Ancient era), I will give 7 days notice and an actual allocation of gold for everyone to realistically exercise their right.
3713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 20, 2014, 12:49:12 AM
Important information regarding the entrance to the game.

The game has been going on for a little bit more than 24 hours now. During this time, 68% of the King's gold hold is depleted. The reason for this is that there is a rule of 1,000 gold per registered player minimum. We cannot lift this rule before implementing a programmed database. Doing it takes 2-3 weeks minimum. So it seems that more people are currently willing to play than we can accept, and to compete of the few seats, there has been willingness to pay more for the gold.

The King's gold is seriously below target, so very little gold is coming from there during the following week. This post lists the ways how to get to play the game in the following 7 days or so. Please be reminded that the game will continue from there also, and once we get the character administration in good shape, we can take more players. There is a target growth for number of players, and we are currently a full week ahead of the target!

Even if I or anyone is selling gold at a high price, it does not mean it makes sense to buy. Read the rules, so you know what the potential is, and don't miss out, but also don't get fooled to pay too much.


Way 1.
Browse this thread and find people who own gold. Try to buy minimum 1,000 gold from them. The IRC channel:
crypto-kingdom @ irc.freenode.net is a good place to buy. Make sure the seller notifies me that the gold transfer is registered. It happens manually. Send me your character stats of nick, sex and age.

Way 2.
Since I promised a bonus per post in this thread, but only if the gold is bought in 7 days, these people only have the chance to buy a limited quantity (1,000) of gold in order to claim the bonus. The price is 0.15 XMR/gold, which makes the bonus 133 gold/post. Mention the MEW membership if you have one, for more bonus. The price (above) will be updated at a moment's notice when things change. Make the deal with me, and after having made a deal with me (it requires me sending a PM and agreeing), David Latapie has the authority to give you the payment information. Send me your character stats of nick, sex and age.

Way 2b.
Sorry, MEW membership alone is not currently a way to even buy gold from me, regardless of price Sad

Way 3.
Next wednesday, in about 3 days, I will arrange a gold auction, selling minimum (announced later) 5 lots of 1,000 gold each in the same way the forum is selling adspace. I will open a thread for the bids 24 hours before (and link it here), and the auction closes at 6pm GMT.

Way 4.
If I have promised to give or sell you gold, or you feel entitled to it because of something I have said that in your opinion creates an obligation for me (without me knowing), send me a PM. Also if you are a serious core developer for some of the open positions, then it is possible to get paid in gold, as well as anything else. Send me a PM. Others, please use some of the above ways.


There is so much to do. I hoped to get the updated balances of gold and stone done today but couldn't. The new player influx will probably continue one more week, after which we get to the next phase in game: the city map is opened, land sales start and building can be started as well. With such interesting developments coming up, I can only feel a bit sorry that the tickets to enter the game at present are so exclusive (expensive), but I haven't found another fairer way to allocate them either.  Undecided  


A bit of rant follows:

so how do we join? xD

and why does to OP say the game starts on the 26th, when it already started o.O
This is more like a pre-ann/ICO now. Actual play did not started yet.

No sorry, Earl David: actual play started the very night we decided upon cigars, that it was the time to make something that will make Monero a huge success. From that day, the first 100 days are the Ancient age. (The OP is wrong. I will have to update it. When I have time. I actually decided to sleep for 3 days)

Reading the thread gives a good glimpse on the different concepts tried during the initial development stage. Many of the things will be available in the later versions of the game. Some will not. The community will decide Smiley

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1. You announce how much XMR you want to spend (1 XMR = 10 gold - boni do not count in the amount of XMR, of course)
...
6. I notify His Majesty the King, who will credit the gold on your account once enoughgold is available

Please don't do the above way. His Majesty does not sell fractional reserve gold, only actual gold in the vault, and now the vault is seriously depleted. The only one who sells HM gold is HM himself.

With this much volatility in gold price, there is no way to promise future prices in advance, as Earl David is suggesting. Cash only. Before becoming King, HM was a precious metals dealer and knows his shit.

HM has composed a list of people who are much invited to the game and receive a large gold bonus (currently: 133 gold per post) upon doing so:

Este Nuno 5 posts
superresistant 4 posts
SirLolicon 3 posts
Vokain 3 posts
Giulio Prisco 3 posts
uvwvj 2 posts
Anduck 2 posts
+ 25 people with 1 post

Thank you all who have made it possible! Tomorrow is a new day and new interesting things happen! Smiley
3714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 19, 2014, 09:17:46 PM
Rpetilia have you thought about bundling a miner into your game that mines gold straight to a user's account?

Gold is POS, it does not need to be mined. But a monero miner would be a nice addition for many: after all their balance is kept in moneritos, and IIRC you can CPU-mine a few moneros per month. A house costs about 10 XMR in the game, so it's a real boost to the balances Smiley
3715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: October 19, 2014, 08:45:16 PM
At least Crypto Kingdom is growing:

- Number of characters is 14, which is 6 days ahead of target
- 67% of gold (6.7% of total ancient gold) is already sold
- Gold price was able to be lifted back to original intention of 0.100 XMR (was initially 0.050 for a time).
3716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 19, 2014, 08:37:57 PM
CKG:  If you ever wanted a private castle in the clouds, you will need some cloud stones, for which you need Crypto Kingdom Gold.

I just sent my little sister 1,000 gold so that she can play the game. She promised to return it after the ancient era. I reminded that 540,000 stone (5,400 tonnes) worth 54 XMR will still be hers after staking the gold for 90 days... Cool
3717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 19, 2014, 05:57:48 PM
Does this mean that the previous bonuses like forum posts and MEW don't count anymore since there is not enough gold?

They have been added to the gold amounts of the ones listed. (That's why the amounts were so large and I lost more gold than was planned).

The forum post bonus will expire after 6 days.
MEW bonus will expire a week after notice (no notice has been given).

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Should we send you a message to see how we can buy gold on Wednesday or just wait for you to message us?

I will send the details when we find out a way to do it. It will be Wed evening EU time, so that the Europeans also get some gold.

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I think you should set a limit on how much gold each person can buy.  At the minimum, should limit the amount they can get in a certain time period.  This way, more people can get access to the game, and there will be less chances of monopolies dominating and ruining the game in the future.  With a limit of gold purchase in a time period(ex. 1 week), people that are interested in the game have a higher chance to get in early, which is very important and people that want to reach certain lvls for the 30-day rule can purchase more gold near the end if it is still available(so you can still sell all 50%).   

Good points! We will try several means to make gold distributed optimally (which is not equally, though Wink). In the end, the free market mechanisms will take care of the distribution, and it will be interesting to see how it works out.
3718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 19, 2014, 02:45:04 AM
Royal Proclamation A.D. 1418

It appears that rumors about our rightful rule towards our only subject Earl David have spread further than it felt prudent for us to estimate as little as half a game-year ago, when we decided that the time had come to spread our Kingdom. Our initial offering of gold from the royal coffers, complete with the bountiful bonuses, as a condition to be subjected to our firm rule, was received with surprising eagerness.

To show the accuracy of our book-keeping, we publicly provide the complete list of gold existing and its soon-to-be owners. The amount of XMR payable is likewise included, to proclaim our righteousness in conducting the initial offering, where the price was the same for friend and foe, and bonuses were likewise equitably applied.

Code:
	gold AD1418	payable XMR
HM The King 36250
David, Earl of Armagnac 17600 250
McHaggis 10700 300
Lord NewLiberty 10550 360
Ale 10200 500
shitaifan 4000 200
saddambitcoin 2500 100
gwada971 2000 100
AdamWhite 2000 100
Febo 1400 50
macsga 1400 50
otila 1400 50

We give 72 real-hours to complete the payment, lest the offer is forfeit. To redeem the gold allocated, the XMR address is:

Code:
4B8suUor7am45MUc7pH3EZeH2UumpWFYHhnHkLvffgsLCY3PF1ShEF3dnGQ615Nq4RBk9M4JKyeRS1E5jCm23gytJ5R1Xe6

There is no need for payment id. The txid shall be sent to Earl David (nick here: "David Latapie") for confirmation.


Now, to keep in line with the sales plan prompting that half of the gold should stay in our possession, we must conclude that we can open our vault again earliest in A.D. 1424 (next Wednesday). The 6 year delay inevitably gives rise to the question of secondary markets. We want to abstain from regulating such. The rule that must be observed is the minimum of 1,000 gold per registered character. The previous owner must inform me (not David) of transfers of gold to another. The staking will change in the real-day when the transfer is registered.

All characters who enter into game shall also provide me their basic information according to the rules.

We are delighted of the developments and ennoble NewLiberty. "We are afraid that he is tired of hearing our tokens of admiration, so we refrain from praise this one time."

We are eager to complete the registration of our new subjects, including future ones should the aftermarket result in successful trades.

When gold sales are again opened, our intention is to find a market clearing price. The one who proposes a method that will be implemented, will receive gold and glory.
3719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 19, 2014, 12:58:12 AM
Wow, I just find out about the game and the gold is sold so fast already Sad
Nice bonus for the posts, I thought it was a mistake because it was so high lol.

Do you know around how much gold would be available again for sale on Monday?
Thx

Every day (representing 2 game-years) 10,000 gold (representing 10 kg of gold) is mined and my obligation according to the rules is to try to sell half of it regardless of the price (but of course at the best price possible Wink )
3720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: October 18, 2014, 11:43:20 PM
Sorry, it was not meant to go so quickly ...  Undecided

All the gold that was available for sale, mined during the last 10 real-days, the entirety of the game so far, is now gone.

The ones who until now expressed interest, I will contact you by PM shortly. Others, please don't ask to buy any for 24 hours at least, since no more is coming to exist until Monday. Also don't make a secondary market just yet until I will confirm that the gold registry database is up and running. This should not be more than 24 hours either.
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