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3721  Economy / Gambling / Re: Using ToS against users normal? on: August 16, 2023, 02:48:02 PM
If I have to put my money somewhere and that site says something along the lines, 'We can change terms at our will, you may not be notified, it's your responsibility to check for updates in terms regularly" — I'll get outta there.

Casino usually update their ToS but the case of this thread is very rare to happened which the update is to use against its customers. Casino that do this kind of cheat are those who don’t have any reputation to protect.

I think any shady casino will force the users to agree with the ToS even if they are against the will or you can say against the rights of the users. The casinos that update their ToS without the knowledge of its users is somehow doing cheating with the users because the new conditions can be really tricky and most of the users may not even know about the updated ToS because only few people read ToS after initial agreement.

I say one thing, whenever we are going to enter a casino they make us sign or accept the initial terms and conditions, but unless it is said in those Tos, that when you enter the platform, the Tos will be changed, that is something else, but in the case that the Tos are changed, each player must be asked to accept the new Tos, that is the most common, the most logical and the most honest, I say that it should be done, there is no ota, in not the chaos, because things would be totally violated, that is what should be, whoever tells me that the Tos are changed at all times for the convenience of the casino, that does not work for me and that is my way of thinking, no I think I'm wrong for thinking like that.

In fact, when we sign any contract, those terms do not fit because that is a violation of the contract, it is a violation of what is contracted, because we as players cannot change things in a casino, because then things get ugly For the player who is even seen as a scammer, then I think things should be totally transparent, because if not, then don't say that they have to accept the Tos, otherwise they're going to Respect it , that doesn't make any kind of Sense to me.

Now, having said these things, I don't Know , it may be that there are people who don't care if they don't care, but in my case I do care, because it's money that is at stake, and the most likely thing is that in Those changes are the one who loses out is the player , it's always like that.

I had seen the case of a casino where they had a good Referral Program , and it has been very successful, but now it turns out that these Tos are combined and people do not earn the same as before, that is, all the work that was previously done is no longer It's no use because obviously people now earn Less, because the casino takes a Percentage from them of what they Earn , so that's not playing fair, it's okay that the casino has the right to win all the time , but not in a such a cheeky way, when you see a Casino like this I don't play or Recommend it.
3722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Irresponsible behavior at the Las Vegas Casino on: August 16, 2023, 02:03:43 PM
Yes when we all got into gambling and taking bets and risks, we are all aware of that. This game is a zero sum game. We are taking money of each other. Those who stays in the end playing is the winner and have the highest profits. But I guess it still deals with why are you participating? Is it ou of boredome? To make money? To just chill?

You cannot control the outcome of your bets. But you can control yourself and your expectation especially in gambling so it won't affect your life negatiely.
We are aware of the risk, but we still take the risk because we want to win from gambling. And that's what keeps us playing gambling until now. And that's also what happened to the people who bought the lottery because they didn't have to spend a fortune to buy a lottery ticket. And when they buy those lottery tickets with a certain amount of money, they will be able to have many tickets and hope that one of them can come out as a winner.

And I think people who play the lottery because they want to participate with their friends, want to relax while collecting more lottery tickets, and also want to earn money as an end goal. And even though they haven't won yet, that doesn't stop them from buying lottery tickets.

What happens is that when we enter a casino, many of us forget things like probabilities or something like that, we always want to play, have fun, even though we know the apparent risks in casinos, we always give it a try, because Despite all this, we are still there, and I think that what many players keep is the hope to be able to do things, so the fact of thinking that they are going to win, or that they can win is enough to play, no more is needed nothing, apart from what gives an interest, or gives some emotion in some, that sometimes fills the person with that hope.

We, as good players, know that in any lottery, there will always be hope, those hopes are or can be called probabilities, and of course they can be quantified, to give an exact point of things is a bit difficult when it comes to these things, in lotteries it is difficult to predict what number will fall, some, among the most studious, are ceuta to give some results, because depending on what is played in lotteries it can be with many factors, also in this there is no type of pattern to follow there is no formula, much less, you can get statistics from everything we have played and how close we have been to the result, to be the winners more work is needed, I don't know, maybe further on in the future they will have Combined mathematical models through robots that can determine if use can win or not, but it is or is a very remote possibility.

The possibilities are many, and I think that the possibility vs. probability things may have some kind of correlation to be able to do something, however, I would not focus much on looking for the possibilities but rather the probabilities, but what occurs to me is that through a It is my own record to determine how close you are to achieving victory, is what occurs to me, because carrying out a general study where it is possible to determine what number is going to come out, that is something that I do not see viable until now
3723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: August 16, 2023, 01:43:18 PM
I also think so, for me a person who is going to fall into addiction does not start when he has a winning streak <...>

I would think that the addition begins is when you have a losing streak, because in the winning streak the player is fine, he is calm, he knows that things are going well for him, but in a losing streak things get ugly, the person does not He accepts that he loses so much, he says that it is unfair or that even worse, he lacked money to recover everything, because he already knows how to play to recover what he lost, this is a mistake that addicts make all the time, when you lose you create that need to win to win back, or in retrospect, you create that way of playing anyway because the casino shouldn't beat that person, and fighting or seeking revenge with a casino is the worst thing to do.

In addition, if the person in question runs out of money, he will immediately look for a way to get more money, and that's where a problem starts silently, but you have to pay attention, that's how it starts, and the player when he gets that money , play and lose again, the despair will be greater, because you know that with more money you could have recovered, and that all develops into a difficult problem, which if it is not cut on time, with whatever reason or method, things end very badly, and that is not the idea or what is sought.

I think you are wrong on this. What the OP is talking about is the scenario of someone who gambles for the first time, and what you say is true but when he has been gambling for a long time. So someone who has been gambling for a while and has developed addiction or other problematic behaviour if they have a losing streak will try to chase their losses, go for more money or even borrow it, but someone who is starting out and losing money gets bored and doesn't gamble when they lose the money they have decided to gamble.

Yes, in fact it is when it happens for the first time, but it usually happens that when there is a first time, sometimes you have the luck of the newbie, as it was in my case , the first time I entered a casino at once I got around of 2mBTC, and that was in less than half an hour, almost without thinking, after this I rested for about 1 week, then I came back, and it was when one makes all those mistakes, and if by chance I had not controlled myself it was very easy to have fallen in addiction.

Normally, when a rookie makes any bet and has the winning round, before entering any kind of indication of addiction, what he experiences is a set of strong emotions and what he does is expose himself to continue betting, but I think that in the midst of all this, take care of that balance you have earned, because for many it is the first time to see so much money , so if you take care of it, of course if you let yourself be carried away by that if you bet more you win double, or if you feel very lucky to bet it all, and if you lose it, you'll be bored and I don't think you'll go down an addictive path.

For me , addiction never begins for a novice if they have a round of good Warnings, I think that is something that is unlikely, however we do not know if the novice can fall into another state , that is, if they are drinking alcohol, it could be that I lost a little in the north, my focus is that he is superman and if I lose control but that is already due to other aids , which is not within the normal framework of the game , for me an addiction does not start there but after several sessions of games in a row , because it makes or creates the need to Continue playing and earning money, probably money that has been lost , Apart from this I think that it can also cause a type of addiction if the person focuses on only recovering losses, that is where there is the problem and that is where people can normally fall into despair, thus earning a direct path to addiction, but created by a need , it is what becomes more Logical.
3724  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: August 16, 2023, 02:15:10 AM

I respect a lot when it comes to religions, culture or something like that, because one cannot get so involved in these things, because for some it is so delicate that it can mean that later those people suffer making many sacrifices, and that is not the idea. , I have seen many things regarding religions, especially those people that I call fanatics, I have come across many of them in life, and they say a number of things when you tell them or talk about the casino, sports betting , a lady the other day told me that this was demonic, and I oh please but why do you say that? She told me that the devil likes those things that people do, and I told her, well, I don't see it that way, I didn't argue with her much because she was an older person, so sometimes these types of people make a lot of comments, they form gossip and only for that reason it can reach the ears of people who like to take what belongs to others (thieves) so only for that reason sometimes it is better to be silent.


People who are too fanatical about their religion are always like that, think negative things are too much, like you say that casinos are called devils or even places that will take players straight to hell. Even though they are not aware of their own mistakes, playing in gambling games that look normal, but they do it.
Finding people like this really has to stop arguing because we won't win with arguments that they always associate with religion.
I often encounter some fanatical people who don't even give a good solution and even keep cursing me when playing a gambling game.

Well, all my life I have always lived in front of an Evangelical Church, and I have gotten along with many who are Evangelicals and they tell me those things , I tell the truth to those who are my age if I tell them that all this is a lie, that These are simple rules that religions believe, however, that lady the other day saw a snake and began to yell that this was the devil and she started to pray, the truth made me laugh a lot, first because of how she was doing , second because I am not afraid of those animals , and thirdly, they associate everything with the devil, I believe that religions should teach people to be stronger spiritually , because the fight is not there, it is in the spiritual , in what is it puts people in their heads, in the ideas they have, in those who are and who have very ugly thoughts , not in those who play in casinos , much less in those who place sports bets.

Sometimes religions make us think that we do things wrong, but what people are capable of combating demons and spirits in the world at the level of an exorcist? I think few, and they don't teach that in religions, so that's where the struggle is , but gambling is a matter of luck, of fun, it has nothing to do with evil, so that type of thing is People need to understand that this is not the Case.

Games of chance have always existed and the things that are compared to them that are bad, is a total lie, people cannot be saying or of the opinion that an activity is bad or not, if it does not affect them it is not like that, what happens It is that some people have so much free time that they are capable of getting into the lives of others , but it is the level of unemployment , in my case Everyone knows that I like casnio, that from time to time I drink my beers , and who tells me something? no one, because they know that I am direct, I am one of those who say that this is not their problem, apart from this casinos are not a bad thing , I am one of those who do not hide so this habit of keeping it a Secret with me is not Goes.
3725  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling experience using loan money on: August 15, 2023, 08:27:37 PM
~snip~

Well, in the part of loans in the forum, they always request loans , but I had not seen that there they said that it was expressly to play in a Casino, if so, it seems to me a very reckless act to do it, personally I or I would do something like that, the only way I could be in a loan situation is if I have a family emergency, someone in a clinic, something like that, because Otherwise I would refrain from making a loan because it is a high commitment , firstly because of the interest that must be paid, then for the capital to be paid, sometimes I have seen people who can only pay the interest plus not the capital , which is quite hard and difficult, that is why I say a loan for a casino or playing in a casino for i it will never be something viable.

There are People who look for loans for this , and if they do it for me they have to have a very High payment capacity and to tell the truth be quite responsible, at least when I owe something, I am not calm until I pay it, it is something that I have that does not allow me to have peace of mind, perhaps it is the degree of responsibility that each one of us has, because if someone lends money it is because they want to help, then the least that can be done is to pay on time, many things when working with money And in this way things sometimes go wrong, because money makes people change, transform, it's something else, it's something very delicate.

In addition, the fact that money is used for a Casino, it is likely that this money can be lost and quickly, I am not saying that the person loses, but that it is the highest probability that it happens, we must also consider that the person who lends the money You may have some stress and pressure but if you lose that money, then these types of things are what we must take care of ourselves , when we play in a casino sometimes if we have a lot of pressure at least it goes badly for me, because things They don't work out for me , I have to play very Relaxed for things to work out well, that's what I've learned, I don't know if other players are stressed and things Work out for them , but that's what I see.


Dude, I fully understand your complaints on the loans on this forum. It appears that everyone is casually asking for loans, as if they only need a few dollars for snacks. however obtaining a loan to visit a casino? That's insane on another level! You have to admit that casinos exist to separate you from your money. My man, it's a futile endeavor. The house always has the advantage, even if you have some wacky skills or a lucky rabbit's foot

I'm with you on the loan stress. I would detest owing someone money, particularly if it was for a pointless event like a night out at the casino. Money is a sticky situation. People are frequently changed negatively by it. Furthermore, if you're going to steal someone else's hard-earned money, at least be accountable enough to return it. No offense intended, but everyone needs to reassess their priorities

Yes, the truth is, and I have never lent money to play in a casino, in fact I was about to lend, but when I was a novice and thank God I never did, I thought I knew the strategies of craps very well and that he could get a lot of money from gaming platforms, but he was a rookie, with a mind where he saw possibilities where there weren't any, that was a stage where the blows taught one to be a little more mature and have respect about the casino, its games, and learning to lose without losing control because at all times things can be avoided by having good control and especially of money, and managing or trying to manage impulses, because emotions are what it is. something that is very difficult.

But I like to see some things that the players do and try to get the most out of them according to the experiences of others, it is also something that is used to avoid making those mistakes, on one occasion I was about to borrow money here in the forum, however, I did not do it and that was a cause of force majeure, but as I could I managed to solve without having to do it, it is not bad to borrow money, it is a business where you can benefit and solve a problem instantly, but that, afterward, there remains the Commitment to pay the interests+capital on time, and that is something that has to be sacred, there can be nothing more than Clarity.

The players who risk asking for Loans , I consider that they are people who the next day or in the shortest time pay off that loan, but it is what I imagine, if there is a person who does not have the ability to pay, they should not look for loans, because It will simply look bad, it is not advisable, and even less for a casino and betting on it, I consider that irresponsible if it is done by a person who does not have an immediate payment cap, or at least who does not have it within a period of time acceptable, it is about giving advice so that no one falls in that case,  but each person is the owner of their Actions.
3726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Signs that indicate you are not addicted to gambling on: August 15, 2023, 07:59:43 PM

Now, I would like to add that a Very Important guideline is to never break our own rules, for whatever reasons, we must respect our own rules, we must never break them , because Otherwise we would not Respect ourselves, they would start dating things go wrong, that's something that can sometimes stop, however we have to keep an eye on it.

the perfect addition to complement all three principles. Because it is easy for us to plan and run it at the beginning of time and what is difficult in this case is to maintain or be consistent with the rules we have made. Consistency is the main key in doing something because temptation does not know the place and also the time, maintaining it in the long term is very difficult to do but as you said that to maintain our consistency is to respect the rules we have made. It would be better if we told the rules or principles we made to those closest to us so they could make each other aware not to get caught up in gambling addiction.
It is that I think something, when we do any strategy in a casino, we can be successful, because if we organize ourselves with the amount of money that we are willing to lose, how we are going to play, how much money we are going to bet on each play, well it is something It helps me to more or less imagine what I can do, it's like having a vision of what could be triggered within my game, at least I do that, it's like when playing chess and more or less one sees what can happen if it does this or that, or what happens if I apply something else, what can it result in, something like that is what I do, and that is part of my strategy, now, having done all this, what I propose to do is that things are given to me, in case they are not given to me I must Assume and that's it.

Based on what I have said, it is necessary to emphasize that when I play I should not do things wrong, and what is the first thing that I can get out of control? that if I spend my money, the one I was willing to spend, if I lose it I can't start thinking that I'm going to look for more money to make another play and maybe win something from what I lost, because there I am violating my own rules, then I'm already wrong, and that's what I'm talking about, so this is the most common mistake that one makes as a player, not only did I do it, I know that many of you have Missed, because we start to think in a very positive way that if we can achieve it, it is best not to try anymore , Because the most likely thing is to lose that victory, what I advise in those moments that one wants to break the rules is to leave the game, log out and do something else, then return the next day, or at 2 days, that emotion of doing things like this Quickly wears off a bit.

I have experience in that because it has happened to me, however when I arrived the next day, I tried to recover all that I had lost, and everything went wrong, so that is why I repeat, things should not be done like this, you must have peace of mind , something to measure for things and not surrender to despair or stress.
3727  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can i make 100 $ daily from online casinos on: August 15, 2023, 06:55:20 PM
~snip~
When we have good self-control, things turn out well for us, because if we lose we feel good, since it is something that was likely to happen, there is nothing strange there, but when a person wins and gets excited and feels invincible, You can do very silly things like double the bet to win double, and so on, I think there is no self-control there and it would be wasting the good luck you have had, personally I am honest, I have felt on many occasions that yes, yes. I've lost control a bit, but when I see that I'm losing a lot, I've left it there, I stay with my bad temper, yes, that's agglomeration and I can't help it, and say rude things to myself, but I assume my loss In the same way, sometimes I have two beers, watch a good movie, or why not, go out and eat a pizza with the family to ease the bad feeling, but I get something positive out of the negative, and obviously learning what I don't should I never do so that the same mistake is not repeated, even though I know a lot of things, sometimes one says, well, are we going to risk seeing what comes out? and well, sometimes those risks are not fruitful, but sometimes it is worth doing.

Now I like your friend's attitude, because it is a very calm attitude, it is an attitude that gives importance to him at the moment and that he did not take it into his daily life as a necessity, thus avoiding addiction to gambling altogether, I cannot denying in blackjack you can win a lot of money, and $25 is not bad at all, it is something that I would be proud of, however, these types of people are calm, they do not get carried away by things that are bad, but they themselves They have a discipline for all that, that is what you have to see, and that often goes into the personality, I imagine that when he drinks alcohol, he does not get drunk, because he knows the consequences it brings, it is very good to take things with the best attitude of the world in order not to fall into bad streaks and know when to retire, so it is good to copy some things from others that are positive for us.

The thing is, even if you are calm, and continue to play based on a plan, etc, you will most probably lose it all over time.

That's because the casino has the advantage in all games, called the house edge. Some games will have a large house edge, whereas others will have almost none. Blackjack is one of those games where the house edge is the least. That's usually a good game to play as you will have slightly better chances.

Note that you still have a negative expected return, so if you keep playing, you will eventually lose it all.
This is something i believe that every gambler should already know and be familiar with, but then, lets not forget that this whole facts about the house having the higher edge over the gambler, this on a very large extent depends on the type of games the gambler is playing, personally, i think house edge have nothing to do sports betting - correct me if i am wrong though, but house edge have nothing to do with sports betting, as winning in sports betting, (no matter what the setting of the house be, or how ever it is programmed,) depends solely on the players knowledge of sports and how much luck they have on their side.

So when ever we are discussing this whole facts about the house always being the winner in the long run, we should never fail to always exclude sports betting in the equations cus someone who is very knowledgeable in sports, and always lucky in their predictions, will always beat the house, even though they may still lose some games from time to time.

In this aspect you are absolutely right, I also include myself in that motion, what do you say, sports betting should not be included in the house advantage, the house advantage only lies in its games, in any game of chance that is controlled The casino is where I focus more than anything, for example, to win the 100usd per day in a casino game is something that I see is possible, but if we have a very large balance, for example, having a balance of about $100k, a dice move can be made, I believe that some moves are made in dice and that profit is obtained, it is like in trading, I also believe that it can be done.

Now, taking all this into consideration, we as players who do not have such high balances to play with, it is very difficult to reach those numbers, personally I would not dare, if I were not even trying in trading, it is like a suicidal situation against my balance, now neither in sports betting, because I am not able to bet that much, my bets are always low, it is with little money, I know that here in the forum there are people who play with a large amount of money, it also goes in those who have a lot of money and because the ability is unique to do it.

When I see that there are people who win big, it is because I know that they have lost a large amount of money, when I see that they lose around 100 usd or more, it can give me an idea that they have been struggling to be able to do something big, however, I think that people must be present in all the effort that has to reach a game point, that's why I say, for me to get to do 100 days I am not capable, I think it is not because I am not capable but because I do not have the capacity, I don't think I even Playing with play money, obviously to try something like this, I would do it many times with the demo mode, because it would be irresponsible to do it like that, without even practicing a bit, well, although some of the games are always random, I think I would still have to practice.
3728  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots fever on: August 15, 2023, 05:31:08 PM
I also think the same thing, whenever you play in a casino and specifically slot games, it is something of great luck, if the person knows how to play, everything can be fine, take advantage of the time and can win money, but if you are a person who You don't know how to bet on a slot machine, you will lose your money quickly, and don't have fun, it doesn't take a long time and you leave with empty years, particularly many players enter a casino to play and try to win, that's something that is envisioned. Consideration, however, we as fair gamers, and intelligent, know that we have a part of our money willing to lose, and that is what I do when I play slots or any other game.

If what I am willing to lose in a slot I lose, for me there is no problem, because I have another purpose when I play slots, I use them to de-stress, so I see it as a service, or as before I was going to play play in a site and I paid my hour or something like that to play, as for the rest, it could be said that when we play slots you have to have a lot of intuition.

There are people who go to a slot machine with a large amount of money and end up losing everything, they can even lose it in a few plays, it is because they bet a lot of money in each play, of course you can win, but in slots you have to have a lot Be careful, I have seen in the threads of the droo that there are slot players who always have a high profit, because they often make big bets, and they are lucky to win, in fact on stake.com they always publish when players have this kind of luck , and wow, this is an incentive for the players that things can be done, and it is a source of pride for the casinos, showing that they can win big because it is something that is shared.

The fever for slots is worldwide, when in 2017 I met the casinos what I saw most that players were looking for was to play poker, but now the most popular thing is slots, so it doesn't seem bad at all.
People who have gambled a lot will know how to play slot games. What they don't know is how to get that win because slot games are luck-based gambling games. They can't ask their luck to come every time they gamble. And whether that person knows how to play slots or doesn't know how to play slots, they'll lose it quickly and won't even notice if they can't control themselves. They will see the money disappear from their balance without being able to recover it.

But if you are experiencing stress, you should not play gambling because it can cause your emotions to increase and what I do when I'm stressed I prefer to sleep. It was the best solution for me and has worked well to reduce her stress level so far.

And if some people go into slot games with big money but don't have strong self-control, they give their money away and will be easily tempted to continue playing and without playing because they see that they still have a lot of money in their balance. They may move on to many gambling games with the consideration that they still have that balance which will then end in losing all their money.

And we also should not try to play like people with a lot of money because that is different. When they lose a lot of money, they still have a lot of money in their balance, whereas if we lose gambling, we may lose all the money.

Well yes, there are many things that can be done, in fact I like what you say about if he is stressed because the best way for him to spend it is sleeping, but I think that this applies to various types of stress, when I was in the U and I had 3 midterms in one day, what I did the day before was not study and study, but I went to sleep because and I said that I already know what I should know, so I need to relax to be able to think well, and well I was doing well , in the case of slots like I use them to not look for profits, because I see them as a stress reliever, and it sounds strange, right? the fact that money is spent without seeking to earn? but the money I have to spend in this way is not much, in this case I see this as a way to de-stress, it is like going to a place and paying for 1 hour to play Play Station, something like that, like a service.

Now what you say is very true, slot machines are totally up to luck, randomness and sometimes you have to know how to bet, because if you bet uncontrollably the balance simply goes away like nothing, this kind of thing is Those that should be avoided at all costs, is something that players always have to take into consideration , now, if things were different in slots, they would have many strategies, however I am a believer that there is strategy and technique for everything.

There are people who do win at slot machines, and it's incredible how they do it, sometimes in a big way, it's something I admire, and sometimes I would like to know what happens, how they do to get there and how many times they have lost, or Rather, how much money will he have lost, because those things are just the tip of the iceberg, but we as players can get an idea of how much that person has gone through to get there, those are the things that we as players, as well Analysts must see, that is where the study of each one of us is, but of course that is something that can be Accessed with time and experience.
3729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: August 15, 2023, 04:09:03 PM


Today we will see the final of the Arab club champions which will bring together Al-Hilal against Al-Nassr. We know the rivalry of these two teams in the Saudi league is very hot and this is a decisive match for both of them to win the first title before continuing to the Saudi league competition. This will also be a proving ground for Cristiano Ronaldo to be able to get his first title with Al-Nassr and it seems that it will not be easy enough because Al-Hilal has other European players such as Ruben Neves, Milikovic Savic, Koulibally and Malcom. But of course, this time too, Cristiano Ronaldo is not alone because there are other European players who have participated in strengthening the depth of the Al-Nassr squad, such as Seko Fofana, Sadio Mane, Brozovic, and Alex Telles. These two big Arab teams are very balanced and we can see these European stars heating up the atmosphere again through this match.

This of the two biggest teams in the Saudi League, we know very well that they are a classic, great rivals and that they have a lot to give, it is also the team that always finds it very difficult for Al Nassr, we eight players, as fans of the football we know that CR7 is a great reference for this league, that Al-Hilal is the most famous team and that now with everything that is happening in football it is the final, a final that Al Nassr was very much in floor, but thanks to the fact that CR7 did great things, a goal that was too safe, is what keeps him now in the final, now, I wonder how the hearts of the sheikhs who are heads of these teams are.

As for me, I think this league has a lot to give and offer for everyone, I know that we are used to playing styles in Europe, but I like this game, I wonder if they will leave enough in extra time ? That is another of the things that catches my attention about this Saudi football.

In addition to this, I liked that the protagonist of this match was CR7 with those 2 masterful goals.

Cristiano Ronaldo scores two goals as Al Nassr win Arab Club Champions Cup

Personally, I am very happy that this victory was won by Al Nassr and above all by CR7, he is a person who is doing well, despite the fact that it has been a stormy year for him, his criticisms and everything he has.
That’s one thing that CR7 thrives on, criticism and with him not having to see Argentina win the World Cup, his transfer to the Saudi side, his been hit by a lot of it but it suddenly seemed to have opened up opportunities for the rest of Europe to join in and make the league great again. Thanks to CR7 the Saudi league is now looking like a good watch and with the quality of players to have joined up, Al Nassr might just be unmatched.

The skills of Sadio Mane and Brozovic would serve a very useful tool to the upgrade to CR7 who was already making waves and have proven himself once more with another trophy to his name. It would be interesting to see how the Saudi side would proceed hence forth, especially in the UCL.

If in fact it has given life to a league that actually has and is gaining an enormous level, it is something that I admire, the truth is that with all the players who have left, they are not just any, in fact I do not know if you have seen the interviews that have been done to CR7 regarding if he wants to go to Europe, and it is not like that, he says that the level of European football has dropped, he says that La Liga is not the same anymore, neither is the Bundesliga, that the only one that is at a very high level is the PL, apart from that they told him that if he wanted to go play with Messi or against Messi and he said that he would not go to the MLS that the Saudi League is far above the MLS , and that if he would like Messi to go to the Saudi League, he only said that all cracks are welcome in the Saudi League, and that he would not return to Europe, of course with everything that happened to him it was something that anyone would not like would like to go

In part what he said is something very intelligent, he is very truthful in what he says, it is said that Neymar is going to Al Hilal:

Neymar to join Saudi's Al Hilal after $100-million transfer-fee deal with PSG



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The fee would be a record for the league, backed by the oil-rich state, in its spending spree on high-end soccer talent.

Al Hilal could finally seal a statement signing to match Al Nassr, its city rival in Riyadh, which lured Cristiano Ronaldo in January. Recent offers to Lionel Messi and Kylian Mbappé, teammates of Neymar last season at French champion PSG, were not accepted.

Neymar has reportedly been offered a two-year contract expected to pay the 31-year-old Brazil star an annual salary of about $100 million. That would be around half of the 38-year-old Ronaldo's reported salary.

Neymar and PSG agreed last week he could leave although his widely reported preference, like Messi several weeks ago, was on returning to their former club Barcelona.

Barcelona’s troubled finances make such deals tough and Messi instead chose Major League Soccer's Inter Miami in June.

Source: https://www.france24.com/en/sport/20230815-neymar-to-join-saudi-s-al-hilal-after-100-million-transfer-fee-deal-with-psg

Now if Ney goes to Al Nassr's rival team we will see that we will have some very good games between him and CR7, not bad, apart from the players who are in full swing, the new ones, things change remarkably, it sounds like this football It is taking the turn that it is, now I would like the sports channels to give the necessary importance to this league, because all the time it is the other leagues, and I did not find the Arab one, since I have more than 200 TV channels only from sports, the only way was intentionally and in Arabic, which I don't think so, so this type of thing should be avoided, because sport should be free and now that it's getting so interesting, things should go to where the most exciting is.

This league is important to me, and it's not because only CR7 is there, but we get to see, more famous players will come to this league, and as I said before, this league has gradually become very important, and the games in Europe are still important and very good, but the Saudi League has stolen their attention.
3730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: August 15, 2023, 03:36:33 PM
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So, it is, well, not all players have the same perspectives, things have a different way of looking when they are shown to players who have more experience, as far as I am concerned, I have seen the attitude of some friendly players, they see the game almost like a necessity to do, it doesn't matter that it's every day in a moderate way, this makes things change in them, in their brain, it doesn't matter that things don't happen to them, even if they lose, I think finally They understand that the game is made practically for fun, that every time they play they have to have that money ready to be lost, but don't feel sorry for things to keep flowing, I say this from the point of view that I have a couple of friends, who always play street games, but it's a somewhat safe street game, because they do it with the cops.

The border police always let some contraband through, this friend is going to play with them betting on dice, and I have had the opportunity to see how he also loses and still does not lose control, I know he is angry , and he even swears at the Police, but the truth is that 100% of what he talks about, 90% is pure Rudeness , but they still know what he is like, and even though he has losses , he has had more gains than losses , That's something I don't Understand , however when they play he tells them that what they do is "rattle" and "rattle" is a word that means something like taking money from those who smuggle and that they also use that smuggling they have their cut, that is what the word is basically assigned to the police, and since everything is money in the world, these things are common in these third world countries and since it is the most Active frontera in all of South America , they are things that all the military, police guards do whatever it takes to be able to send them to that border, because in a matter of a day they are Capable of making up to more than 500 usd , they all fight to go there, so what I rescue here is that despite that players lose, there is always something they like about this type of game, whether on the street, in traditional casinos , or in online casinos , the attitude of a Mature player Always has to be one of acceptance and maturity in order to continue Maintaining afloat on this.
That means players like us have to set an example so that we can also moderate our gambling game and not cross the boundaries we may have made long ago to get back on the right track. Indeed some players can realize that gambling is made just for fun and not to make money, and they fully know that what they do in gambling is for fun. And for that, they always try to set a gambling budget and keep themselves on track. They can also stop before all their money is spent on gambling so they still have a balance in their account that they can use to gamble another day. That's what we really have to be aware of and follow to avoid gambling addiction, and we may not know when gambling addiction will come.


Well that was just a current experience, of course things are very different here, because it enters into many topics that we sometimes discuss here in the forum, one of games in the street, the jargon, the way of behaving, what it takes to the authorities also play, that is something that few of us knew, however, before being authorities they are men, women, who like things, gambling is entertainment, playing for fun, apart from this it is shown that the bets with money are quite exciting, and martingale does not apply here, constant bets apply, but of course constant bets with approximately 4.95USD per shot, it is something that at least seems sufficient to me, in the case of the police Well, for letting the contrabass pass, they give them approximately that and more, so in the case of the police they recover it in less than 24 hours, but in the case of those friends, they recover it the next day with what they cross the border and frontera.

These things are quite relevant, because if this is done here, I know that in other countries if they have enough confidence they can do it without any problem, it is something that can happen, because even though they are doing something that is not completely legal , through the dienrolo they make it legal, and well, in this aspect what seems remarkable to me is that it is only assumed to lose an amount of money per day, which I at least am not capable of assuming, and that is something that Sometimes it's hard, because if I start buying, at least I'm prepared, I have a profession that is a long career, because it's engineering, and I don't earn what he spends, and they are people who haven't really studied nothing, and they earn these enormous sums of money, only with other activities, and with respect to the game of dice, well, it is something that goes into the game and their earnings sometimes increase, but despite everything I see that the self-control they have It's a lot, they don't bet more than they are willing to lose, that's something I admire about them, they don't fall into addiction.
3731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: August 15, 2023, 03:04:21 PM


Yes, Casino will go up to that far just to make sure that they are protecting their business, if there's a chance that AI may read how the casino system works and find ways to breach and beat it up, it will endanger the business, though for sure before things go far casino developers and owners already have that knowledge about it and will do everything to prevent it.

I like that example on your first statement about by hook or by crook, anything that in their power they will use it to make sure that
gambler will not have that advantage.
It is the same, a casino will always show its security to the maximum, so things sometimes do not happen when you want, but rather it is due to surprises, normally an AI attack in a casino is taken as a hack, and that is something that the casinos take great care of, and in particular what I see that the casinos can do is hire many programmers and AI specialists to avoid this, in fact the csinso at this time must already have specialized personnel to keep their security in that sense, because the AI is being developed, and any attack must be withheld and neutralized, that is what must be done, of course that is what I assume, I do not have access to any information from the casinos, but that is what must be done. be so, in addition to the receipt of so much money you have to make the expense that is necessary so that you are always safe.

The AI is one of the things that we can now see as something innovative, but that is not right now, not even because ChatGPT was launched, most of them were amazed and thought that with this tool they can do anything, and it is not like that, For whatever it is, great expertise and knowledge is needed, in addition to things when it comes to AI development, it is training the robot in many aspects, and the truth is that it is a lot of information, it is difficult to enter it, and it is difficult for a robot trains so much to beat a casino, for this reason is that each AI algorithm is very specialized, depending on the task it takes to learn, but for now what we have shown is a simple part, in beta mode of what they are developing.

In the security of a casino it is very difficult to unlock, there is a lot of it, in fact if it is with AI they will be detected, so this is something that we always have to take into consideration, the investment that casinos make is much like for any robot enter, violate all security and apart from all that, well break blockchain codes, which is technically impossible (until now).
3732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent on: August 15, 2023, 01:53:45 PM
Well yes, both are guilty, but they offer me a loan and it is in my knowledge whether or not I can accept it due to my ability to pay, if I see that I can't afford to pay, I'm not going to accept a loan like that, because how would pay? It would be something very painful, although there are people who do not care and accept things like this, but that is irresponsibility, if a casino is going to make a loan it must have many conditions to prevent the casino from losing money or credit there, for that reason when we We start to see what is better if going to a casino with your own or borrowed money, it is better with your own money, I would never use borrowed money to gamble in a casino.

Both had their own fault in the game,because the loan guy should get to know the purpose of loan.So that the loan getting person will pay their loan without any delay.The most avoided thing of the gambler is he/she should not loan from the agent to get the game.Most of the people use the loan option for the gambling after the complete loss to the game.So mostly I advice my friends,gambling is good but the loan with the gambling is the unnecessary one for the good gamblers.Because such game will not allow them to owe some one for the money.
If one can manage responsible gambling there will be no complaint. As long as a gambler can manage gambling with his own money, he will not be hated by anyone. Whenever he goes into debt it will start affecting his personal life. There is no fault can be found on the part of the lender in what happened mentioned by the OP. Because if lender has paid the loan according to the rules, then the person who has taken the loan will be legally guilty if he does not repay the loan.

No matter how we scrutinize whom to blame, it is always the gambler, because you are right, it is his responsibility to make sure he will not get addicted to gambling, and if he lends money, he will have a hard time paying for it, mostly if he doesn't have a stable job. The people who lend to that gambler are just doing their job and asking him to repay his loan in a hard way, and the lender should also make sure that he can pay what he has got.

I have always said something, to take a loan you have to have an incredible ability to pay, so as not to look bad, not to be badly paid and that the reputation of that person does not fall, because it is something that will always affect, for me the If the person who takes the loan is totally responsible, the person who grants the loan is also Somewhat to blame, however, that is something that can be debatable , because if you lend money and in a casino it must be with collateral unless it is a client who has gone to the casino all his life and who obviously trusts him a lot, is something that always happens , I have seen that there are many in the casino who have this kind of privileges , but they are people who answer to the casino as it is , coin the payments when they are, and that they have no delays in it.

The particular cases are usually very diverse, I would not do something like that, I have already said why, but the people who do it are quite emphatic, and perhaps because they let themselves be carried away by Emotions and that is not good, because one It Cannot be so weak , it is money that is being lent, there are many things at stake, what is most at stake is Responsibility, the ability to pay, the things that must be done to pay on time, without End of things that have to be taken into consideration.

When I see that there are things that are extremely careful , such as money , Loans , I have to carefully review everything, the terms, the payments of how much percentage , how much interest they ask us for, little can we be signing a possible unpayable sentence, and that It is not the idea either, we must also assume that a casino does not lose, and always has the Advantage , that is something that must be Considered.

That is why the responsibility in these cases falls on us as players, each person who is in a casino is responsible for their actions, because for that they are of legal age, they are considered adults and each person must assume their expenses and their mistakes, that is why It is that these things with the casinos are so delicate , and it has to be taken with great Measure.
3733  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Easy or hard to quit? on: August 15, 2023, 05:50:02 AM
What I think about this is that in order to do any type of activity, human beings have to think about what makes us feel good or what makes us feel bad. I think that when we are children we see life very easy, and as we become more mature adults we lose that vision of children, a child knows what is wrong with him, even if he doesn't know it, he doesn't know it, unless he is a very problematic child who wants to attract attention, and if we start to see, he solves it.

If we are doing an activity that is going to hurt us in life, why do we keep doing it? Why don't we take our own measures, the spirit is very powerful, and here I can only say that "Wanting is power".

When we come across very big things that we think we cannot overcome, it is best to seek help, psychologists, friends, people who can help, there is always someone who can help others without so much or asking for anything in change, in fact I have seen that the forum that many people put their cases in evidence, say how they have overcome it, others are going through a trance like this and are still struggling to get out of it , that is something that we must take advantage of, the best thing about the forum is that it goes Deeper here , it obtains very detailed information on each subject, sometimes we can get those very specific things here, Fortunately the more you Contribute you Reach people and help, I think that is the best you can Feel as a person , the more you help someone I think the satisfaction is absolute.


When you get the loss,sometimes your friend will help to mange the loss by giving some loan without interest.But that loan money you should used for the loss management.Instead you reuse the money to the gambling by the addiction,it will surely affect you very much.Because we don't know how long the debt will goes by keep on playing the gambling with the addiction.It's essential one to stop after you loss huge money or you feel you get addicted to the gambling.
Yes, indeed, but what is happening? a friend when he tries to help another with a loan and without interest, when he does so it will be a great help, great satisfaction for that person, in fact it will be the perfect solution, but the problem that can trigger is very great, because in The moment that friend forgets to pay, just because he is your friend, or things are not clear, that will become a much bigger problem, and it is something that should not be done, also many times for making loans or something like that, Friendships can be damaged, the only way something can be done right is to sign something and promise to pay on time, but as I said, that is a problem because people often take advantage of being their friend to not pay , or to pay more easily, or even sometimes those loans do not end up being paid.

In addition, a player who is completely involved in the game, that money will use it to play, there is no other way, because his brain will be focused on winning with the money that he has already been given, that is something that is very difficult to get out of his mind, what I am saying is that if there is a loan there is no need to risk it in a casino, I prefer to use it in trading, because trading is one of the things that can risk money but you risk it based on what you know, otherwise if tradign is done as if it were gambling , the results will not be good.

That is why these things are delicate, personally when I play in a casino, I have money to do it, which is little, always little, never much, because if I lose it it is something that will not hurt me, then in what As far as I am concerned, things have to be done according to our abilities. If there is a loan, it is better to use it to do other things, but not to use it in a casino while playing.

Although the mentality of a player will Always be to take Risks to see if they can win, it doesn't matter, but playing, the bad thing is that when they Win , many players do not agree, because they want to win a lot of money and that is another problem, because they are looking for profit big and there you can also lose Again.
3734  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: August 15, 2023, 04:59:18 AM
The biggest mistake is holding a grudge after playing the game, you played the game you didnt win then its time to walk.   The trick to not fall into is to think you are owed anything further, if the game was played and luck didnt come out your side you had your chance and you walk away.  At least until another day, or week the bad decision is not the losing but thinking a win must be available if risking further loss.   I would suggest always take time as a valid variance of results, if you lost today come back another time not just attempting another spin to fix the loss.

 The game is based on the luck of your day,when you had good luck.The winning from the game will be more as compared to the loss.When you don't have luck,their is more probability of losing the money.The gamblers should take responsibility for the both win and loss.So that they should not blame or praise the website for the winning or loss.When you had not have luck and you play the game on that day,it will leads to loss of the money.So you should keep in mind the same money will back to you at the luckiest day.
When a player is not clear about things, sometimes he tends to blame the game, the casino, for stealing his money and that is something they claim is the case, in fact they claim that the more they bet hard and played with 'more intensity the casino must reward that by winning and it is not like that, sometimes it is necessary to have good luck, to fall at the right time to do things, it is very common for this to happen, also this can lead to higher dramas, there are threads in the reputation part where these players assure that the casino cheated them, and it is an impressive thing how they defend their points, of course, sometimes the loss makes them blind and not see other things, which actually happens in casinos, but it's hard to talk to people who have a unique rage and who believe they were robbed or ripped off.

Sometimes the human behavior is unique, as to save himself he is capable of saying or affirming that he was not at fault, or that for reasons of the same game he lost, otherwise it is easier to blame the caisno or say that the game was deficient, or even that the casino was the one that prevented him from winning, things happen that way, that's why when we are in a casino we have to be clear about it.

When we play in a casino, we have to realize that the casino is a fluctuation of emotions, that you can win, that you can lose, but above all you have to Control a lot about the things you have, which means that sometimes we as players must understand that we can lose even when we see that things seem very unfair, that's how it is, for a reason we Accept the terms and conditions, because we know very well what we are abiding by, just as there are great lose , there are also big winners, where there were no people who won big because we might think that the casino is Compromising or doing something bad practice, but it is not.


It is normal since one of the traits of humankind and possibly every living thing on this earth is self-preservation.  As much as possible a person wanted to keep himself from harm or blame. But this action is countered by honesty and self-respect.  Sadly most gamblers who are addicted to gambling had already lost self-respect and wanted to deny facts of their addiction and start to point the blame on others.  This kind of situation can't be avoided especially in a case where the addiction is deeply rooted in the person.

Well, it has always been seen that despite the efforts of many people, money changes them, for better or for better things are like that, in the casino mainly we sometimes witness gamblers who bet big and what they bet Well, they lose it, that is something that should not be left lightly. When we see people who are very risky in a casino, they are generally wealthy people, they are people who if they lose a large amount of money, well that does not affect them at all and it is something that they almost do not care about, it is not something that I leave them bad, only the bitter taste of failure, but I have seen people who bet almost the same as those people and when they lose if it affects them big.

When they are people who are middle class and make big bets, those are the most dangerous people, because if they lose, these people don't have the ability to resolve many things if they lose almost everything, because it is difficult for them to win that money, in that case it is where it costs the most, there is the danger that a person due to stress or despair can fall into addiction.

That is why it sometimes suggests the madness of addiction, I have seen in some cases where these types of people seek money, either for Loans , or because they tell friends that they need money to do a business, investment or something, They also get loans there , from banks , they sell things, they do endless things so that they can have the necessary money to try to recover what has been lost, and even if they tell those people in their brains that they are doing the things well , because it is something that should not be Done , it is a very blunder to do it because they are putting a knife on themselves.

In this regard, those who manage to take that money to recover it and end up losing things can get out of control much more, because now who are they going to ask for help ? So the person creates a mental environment full of a lot of stress where the only thing he Thinks is how to recover everything he has already lost? in the game? betting again? that is something that should not be Done.
3735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gender in Gambling [differences between Women and Men in Gambling] on: August 15, 2023, 04:00:54 AM

We never know until it happened. I'm following that statement in regard to changes for past decades that culture still being practiced even there are places which equal rights are already enjoyed, there are still places that this kind of rights are not. Just like you said, in middle east where religions are really strict in terms of women's right, they are in need to follow that and they don't have any option as the law also patronizing that regulations.

On the other side, where liberated country from western side where you can usually see women who can practice what men can do, as just an ordinary thing to enjoy.


If it is true, it is true that all this is somewhat complicated, as far as casinos are concerned many things can be said, even though it is a medio of fun for adults , and when saying adults and for men and women alike, the only a requirement that both need , even if they are women, and have money to be able to play, and you need to be of legal age, I think that this should be the only requirements to be able to enter a casino, in the Middle East things are more difficult, it is known that their Culture is quite strong and radical in terms of its rules and everything that has to do with it, it is something that must be respected, it is difficult to do anything in that regard, I understand that both culture and religion are intrinsically well united with each other Yes, and it is something that they respect a lot.

In the West, things are different, women can do these things and more, now the only thing I don't like about the prohibitions is that something stronger will always be developed to be able to fight with the normal and traditional rules, that i s, in the Wes. A movement of "feminism" has been launched in the world where basically it is giving the right to hate men because they think that they are all "macho", so the accentuation of this makes or develops that things are worse and are seen in a radical way and incorrect, there will come a time when a movement can be created that is even more radical than this, and women want to do other kinds of things than the feminists themselves, so I say that the world must have freedoms, and that everyone This must be accepted so that the natural course of the world is not affected, because here the ones who see these examples are the children and children should not be confused, I believe that all this is what should be taken care of, because they are the future, so women and men must have equal rights, obviously women are more delicate beings, who must be taken care of and treated with more care , they are more Sensitive , you have to be very tactful so that they always feel good , so you have to eu make them feel good in any environment, especially in a casino.


In terms of generalizing the capabilities of both men and women, if you are in legal age and you have money to play with then there's no way that you can't play or enjoy gambling, specifically if you are from western side of the world, place that cultures is already being change by rules where equal rights are being practiced.

Though, in terms of places that still practicing same cultures maybe time will come that it can also be liberated and maybe that culture will be change, giving woman an equal capability with how man works.

Meaning to say that even in gambling, they will also be allowed to play and not being prevented by law or by religions.

Yes, in fact things should be like this, because we are men there are many things that we have more freedoms, I do not deny that, however, anyone has the right to have fun, that they have a lot to do, if there is money Well, people can spend it as they like, I think that's what this is for, in my case I limit myself a lot due to the simple fact that sometimes I just do things economically, when I have responsibilities, the way I play At least for me it changes a lot, on the other hand, a person who is a woman and has money can spend their money however they want to, there is no impediment to that, what I think about this is that on some occasions a person Because you are a woman, a man, you must be quite prudent with your money, in the casinos that I have seen, those that are traditional, physical, I have not seen restrictions regarding women, despite the fact that sometimes in these parts of the world they say that some of men or culture is sexist, and no, it is not like that, at least to me or it seems to me, because women do what they want and nobody reproaches them for anything.

In other countries of Europe, the USA, in those parts I have not seen that they restrict them either, now in the case of religions, there if things change, each person is a world and has a point of view regarding that, for For example, in my case I do not believe in religions, for me they are a way to reach God, but it is not the way to salvation, many go to religions for salvation and it is not like that, also they are very strict , and in that case that a religion restricts women from playing in a casino is something that I do not agree with.

In the Middle East, culture, religion, everything is based on the fact that things must be followed to the letter, and according to their culture, they do not allow things that are not within their rules, religion, among other things, but Of course, these are things that I don't even think many should read because that's for problems to arise and I am a person who respects religions a lot, and all that, even though I don't share some things, but I respect them.
3736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023 on: August 15, 2023, 03:41:55 AM
Colombia lost their final group game 1-0 to Morocco but still finished top of Group H and nobody will particularly fancy coming up against them.

Caicedo became the youngest player to score more than once at a Women's World Cup since the Brazilian great Marta (who was 17 at the time) and Canada's Kara Lang (16) did so in 2003.

Now Caicedo is being called the 'Colombian Neymar', in reference to another Brazilian great. Comparisons to either Neymar or Marta are high praise indeed.

Linda Lizeth Caicedo Alegria was born in a small farming town called Candelaria, located 27km from Cali, one of Colombia's largest cities.
In 2020, aged 15, Caicedo was diagnosed with ovarian cancer during the Covid pandemic

Caicedo will be one of the biggest problems for England. Lucy Bronze will also need all the experience she has to play against this very talented young girl that is a very good goal scorer. The game will be as tough for England as the Nigerian game, the only difference being that they will expect this difficult game, not like their last game that they must have considered an easy fixture. Columbia is a better team than Super falcons, they will send England out from the chance to win the worldcup If England joke with this game. Columbia will also need to try to stop Alessia Russo, Lauren Hemp. Lucky for Columbia, there is no Lauren James.



Well, unfortunately the Colombian team was left out, and now things in this world championship are taking a different turn, they took France out, which is one of the teams that I thought was going to reach the final, so this is something that I always It goes to indicate that we are witnessing a women's world where the level of soccer in some countries has increased remarkably, many believed that the USA was going to win this World Cup, I knew not, however I felt a little sad because the only South American team that They took it out, but you have to see that the English play very beautifully, it's nice to see these women play, the way they do it is spectacular, I like to see them.

Spanish cohesion to be tested by determined Sweden



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The penultimate stage of a major tournament is familiar territory for Sweden and although they have failed to clear that hurdle several times recently, that strong pedigree could serve them well against Spain in their Women's World Cup semi-final.

The two teams will vie for a spot in the final at Auckland's Eden Park on Tuesday, setting up a showdown in Sydney with either co-hosts Australia or European champions England for the chance to be crowned a first-time World Cup winner.

"It's going to be a high-pressure Spain and high-pressure Sweden," Sweden coach Peter Gerhardsson said. "For me, it's lovely football."

Source: https://www.rte.ie/sport/fifa-womens-world-cup/2023/0814/1399746-spanish-cohesion-to-be-tested-by-determined-sweden/

Well it's not or nothing, but I see more posiobobladdes to Sweden than to Spain, Spain has endless chances of winning, I don't deny it, but I think Sweden is a pretty strong team and what I see in these girls is that They are not afraid of anyone, they go out to play as if they were playing in their backyard, and that is one of the things that I like about soccer that they do, however, as I said, they are in a semi that any pthing It can happen, they can't leave everything to chance, they have to make sure, these girls have a very good way of playing, I think many have liked it, also Sweden in both the men's and women's teams do things very well.
3737  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Conmebol Libertadores 2023 - Prediction and Discussion Thread on: August 15, 2023, 03:19:24 AM
Are you rooting against my Internacional?
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At least Internacional will have the support of 50,000 fans to boost it in this conquest, but I think that this will not be enough considering that it is in the worst sequence of the season with 7 consecutive games without winning (three defeats and four draws).
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Hehe I'm sorry alegotardo
I was rooting for Inter to qualify of course, but precisely because of the bad sequence of play that was doing, I doubted a little and believed that River Plate would get at least a draw playing in Beira Rio, but congratulations to Inter, got a good classification and a tough one

Well in retrospect, here the teams that can stop the Brazilians will always be the Argentines for me, because they have a high level, in the case of River well, things clearly did not happen, but Boca remains here and I think everyone is here. In the thread we are waiting for what is going to unfold with them, how Cavani will look, how Boca will act, there are many things that we are waiting for.

The Libertadores was left with:
3 Brazilians, 2 Argentines, 1 Bolivian, 1 Paraguayan and 1 Colombian


The argentinians will always be hard to brazilians hahaha, unfortunately for them, only 1 team will survive to the semi-finals since the match will be Arg x Arg = Boca x Racing.
Nice matches to watch

I'll do my predictions in a few days, and I'm believing Palmeiras can win Libertadores again, at least is the strongest team so far in the competition



Wow yes, things are difficult, when looking at the results we see a dominance of the Brazilian teams, but it is something that always happens, also Palmeiras for me is the strongest of them, it is not bad that you think they can win, they are really tough.

Now, looking at it from another point of view, the elimination between Boca and Racing is something unfortunate for the Argentine teams because obviously the representation of both is very good, and in that case I would lean much more towards Boca because Boca I see that they have quite good representation, and they have Cavani, even more so Cavani is a very good reference, and I think that will help them a lot against Racing, and whoever wins from those two teams will be a very strong rival against the Brazilians, although I say something, the teams Brazilians in the Libertadores are invincible, but I don't know what happens to them when they play the Intercontinental Cup against European teams, I don't know if you remember Santos when Ney was there, that they lost against Barcelona at that time, which was when they recruited Ney For Barcelona, it would have been epic that Ney had played at the level he played in Liertadores, I don't know if he did it that way because Messi was there or because he didn't want to hurt Barcelona, but I would have played without compassion.

So now in this Libertadores if Palmeiras or Boca, or Internacional or whatever team is going to win, that they become a lion when they play in the intercontinental, I don't know what happens to them when they play against the teams from Europe, it's as if they are scared or have a lot of respect for it, at least I'm not like that, in football it doesn't matter where they are from, and I play with my technique and that's it, without fear or anything, that's how they should play, so In this case, if Palmeiras wins, or whoever it is, they have to give it their all, they don't have to surrender or be or let themselves be seen as weak, for me the South American teams are the strongest in soccer, I don't know if it's due to lack of publicity or due to lack of sponsors, because they do not have the same relevance as football in Europe, but that dominance should be in those who play the most.
3738  Economy / Gambling / Re: Free Condolence Bonuses to Betnomi exit scam victims on: August 15, 2023, 03:00:35 AM
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Yes it is true, there are people who have money withheld, and they are the ones who feel the problem the most, but as you mention this affects the entire crypto community, not just the one that lives here in the forum.

In any case, what is relevant about this community is having a Casino like the one in this thread that opens a gap to give light to those who have relevant balances, although it is a hand in the idea of attracting some users, it is a natural movement and not it does it  "dark," so, they launching an open promotion, so it's fine.

But!, we can't be so naive with this kind of help either, I repeat as part of the community, seems to me to be genuine, but! Are you looking to attract new users and/or activate old accounts, in a moment of crisis. Hence, we can give a flip to this "idea or intention of help" or maybe it maint is some like; the well-known win-win, perhaps in a percentage of 51% -  49%.
 
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3739  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent on: August 15, 2023, 02:10:22 AM
As they say, prevention is better than cure.
This is not for gambling. For gambling, usually what you are seeing is the winning. Taking of risk is what gambling is, if you are not a risk taker then maybe gambling is not for you and maybe that is the sense that prevention can be apt but as a gambling then you are only heading for the winning. Most gamblers don't see limitation to what they want to bet until they are finished with it and the result is out to their favour or not. There are no prevention if you are a gambler, it is only those who don't gamble will run away after losing.
What @Gozie51 said is true because when someone gambles, he can afford to risk losing, and actually, he already knows that his chances of winning might not be too great. But because he took that risk, he still gambled, and gamblers just want to bet so they don't see the rest. So they think what will happen next is something they can think about later after gambling. And if they don't dare to take the risk of losing, they should stop gambling and relax at home, enjoying the atmosphere. Thus, they don't have to think about the risks of gambling or other things.

Yes because for gamblers, it is take the risk and have the chance to some profit and if you are not taking the risk then you are not preventing anything. You are only preventing something by avoiding it and that is the reason I have said it is not for a gambler to prevent it, be it the risk or something else. If you are a gambler and you have come to gamble, all you have to do is to gamble as you can bear and in order words you are gambling anyway and you are not preventing it only to reduce your risk.
When it comes to gambling, there are rules guiding gambling companies and agents across the globe and these rules though differs in different nations but one of the commonest of the rules which I think is applicable to almost all the nations where gambling exist is the rule that gamblers must reach a certain number of age before they can use the betting platforms and that means for you to gamble, you must be a grown adult.
So that's why I think that nobody's to be blamed by the misfortunes of any gambler apart from the gambler. Betting agents do not force anyone to bet with them and shouldn't blamed for what happens after betting

I understand when it is meant that you have to risk in order to obtain some profit, that is something we know, however we as players sometimes have to have the degree of control of everything we do, that is, if we have control of what we have destined to lose there is no problem, because if it is lost, the loss is assumed and there should be no regrets or remorse, but if it is not assumed that things are like that or that they are not right, it is difficult, if a person has to play 200usd and lose it, then put more money even if it's 100usd more, and if you lose it, it's a mistake that shouldn't be made, and a player who bets more than he can afford to lose is what one can never do in life , no casino, nor any betting agent will say that they bet more than they should, that is our own decision, and due to this type of problem of betting more than normal, it is when they get desperate and blunders are made.

A casino betting agent is just a worker, they only have to stick to what they have to do, they cannot make attributions or decisions that do not correspond to them, because who or in any casino many unpleasant things can happen, like the one that happened , obviously the worker should be punished, because they should not go over the rules of the site, in fact they are unforgivable things in a job, a worker should not start inventing, also as I have said many times, this is about working with money, which makes it much more delicate, so things must be respected more, in fact when dealing with money, many permissions have to be requested before releasing it to anyone.

The rules in every casino, and even in any workplace, must always be respected, because as workers we cannot make decisions of that style, now the thing here is that the agent must answer for what he did, if the employer is benevolent, he He forgives the mistake, and continues working, but they have to punish him for something, because that's how things must be punished.
3740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: August 14, 2023, 01:36:34 AM
Definitely! Developing a gambling addiction is entirely possible, regardless of whether you've scored any winnings or not. Various factors, such as psychological or social aspects, can contribute to gambling addiction. Winning can undeniably play a role in fostering addiction, as the thrill of winning and the allure of more wins can drive a compulsive urge to keep gambling. But, losing money can also be a trigger for addiction, as individuals might chase their losses in a hope to recoup what they've lost.

Yes, the adrenaline rush or that surge of excitement you experience while gambling can frequently contribute to the addictive nature of the activity, but it's only one piece of the puzzle.




I also think so, for me a person who is going to fall into addiction does not start when he has a winning streak, in fact, for a person who has the profile of a winning streak and is very addictive, it doesn't even matter. This is very important, because in the brain of that player he will only have to play and play so that his profits are maximum, he is that type of person who, if they do not have impressive profits, will not leave, and that is where the problem lies, because it is something that is practically impossible to do in a casino, unless you have a very large balance and try to take it higher, it is something that at least I do not see as viable, less if it is done in an inconsistent way, which is not play well, make bets for the sake of making them, and anyone looking for big wins in a casino is wrong and yes, you could be heading straight for addiction.

I would think that the addition begins is when you have a losing streak, because in the winning streak the player is fine, he is calm, he knows that things are going well for him, but in a losing streak things get ugly, the person does not He accepts that he loses so much, he says that it is unfair or that even worse, he lacked money to recover everything, because he already knows how to play to recover what he lost, this is a mistake that addicts make all the time, when you lose you create that need to win to win back, or in retrospect, you create that way of playing anyway because the casino shouldn't beat that person, and fighting or seeking revenge with a casino is the worst thing to do.

In addition, if the person in question runs out of money, he will immediately look for a way to get more money, and that's where a problem starts silently, but you have to pay attention, that's how it starts, and the player when he gets that money , play and lose again, the despair will be greater, because you know that with more money you could have recovered, and that all develops into a difficult problem, which if it is not cut on time, with whatever reason or method, things end very badly, and that is not the idea or what is sought.

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