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3721  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Bitcoin Mining Pool distribution on: July 21, 2020, 09:39:01 PM
Now do a pie chart of pool by operating country and see your decentralization results.

The meaning of decentralization is really subjective here, one can assume it's cetnerlized because probably 70% of the pools are Chinese based, I could go to as far as pointing out the fact that 99% of the hashpower comes form mining gears made in China, and probably 2/3 of that comes from the same exact company (Bitmain), so true decentralization doesn't really exist in life, anything that has to do with wealth/profit/money can't be truly decentralization, there is however a different degree of decentralization, to me as long as not a single entity owns above 40% of the total hashrate, things should be fine, also pool distribution isn't as crucial as the actual physical ownership of the mining gears, if pool x does something stupid, it will be a matter of time before miners move to another pool, but if someone has access to 60% of the actual gears, it will take time to recover, a hard form will be needed, we will probably switch to different algo and after all that BTC might never recover, so that what worries the me most.

OP, aside from what others stated, you need to know which pools are owned by the same person/s, for an example, Btc.com and Antpool are owned by Bitmain, Bitmain are also the largest investor in Viabtc, so in theory, those 3 pools are owned by Bitmain.
3722  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Yet another chainsize post... Maybe on: July 21, 2020, 09:16:59 PM
Miner earnings aren't worth the electricity they consume, some of them quit, difficulty goes down a bit (or goes up less fast), the remaining miners make a good living again, and the Bitcoin network consumes less energy.

This is the problem, less miners/enegery required to mine bitoin = less security one way or the other, by 2028 when rewards are 1.5625 bitcoin needs to be sitting at about $56,000 so that mining remains as profitable, if price is 50% less by then, then long story short, bitcoin will be 50% easier to centralise.


The speeds I quote are with a 200 mbps connection.

You do release that you live in one of the most developed countries in the world right? 200mbps probably only exists at the core where I live, to get a 6mb with an unlimied quota you need to pay about 20% of the average salary, so most people run on slower and limited packages, with my current connection I can hardly propagate a bitcoin block with 1mb in size, imagine it's 4mb ,32mb! it would most certainly send many people away.

The problem here is the most of the big-blockers think that Moore's Law is something that applies to all fields everywhere on the planet with no exceptions, I  was debating the blocksize issue with someone who told me that they have a 500mbps something when he is the middle of the ocean, and that he could buy a 1TB HDD for a $100 which he claims to be worth just about 5 hours of labor, so he sees no problem in making blocksize unlimited, what he doesn't know is that a $100 is someone else's salary for a month or two of extensive work, so buying a 1TB isn't as easy neither having a 500mbps connection, it's even hard and expensive for many people to run a full node at current hardware prices and blockchain size.

Long story short, as long as we are not utilizing 99% of the current block size for 99% of the time (we are not even close by the way) the current blocksize will do, I don't see blocksize standing in the way of people using bitcoin, proof is: we have a few coins with huge blocksize, some even have unlimited size and they don't have half the transactions and users we have on bitcoin.


3723  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Some very 'bad' news on s19 shipments. on: July 21, 2020, 06:36:56 PM
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... some unexpected external factors...

Aren't they more like "Internal" factors of the 2 founders fighting to again control at the expense of their clients?

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Nevertheless, the situation is under control...

How is it under control when the person who sent you this email works for "Jihan Wu" who has no access to the manfuruter/warehouse?

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Antminer will provide specific compensation...

Thier compensation are usually in the form of coupons, if that happens they will flood the market with coupons that will eventually end up going for 10-20% of face value, I hope this time they give you guys a better compensation in a proper form of BTC.

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Antminer Sales Team
Dear Antminer Users...

Since when do they refer to themselves as Antminer? I checked a few emails I received from them and they all state "Bitmain", what happened?
3724  Other / Meta / Re: Can moderators see where was the post reported? on: July 21, 2020, 05:47:19 PM
Correct. In our report list, we just have the link of the reported post (+ the name of the reported user, the name of the reporter and the comment). So indeed, we don't have the history of the post/topic, a mod can't know if the topic has been moved and he has to judge when he sees the report.

Thanks for clarifying, sadly I can't see the comment i had on that report, but I am pretty sure it describes why was it reported, I usually comment on where the post should be moved to unless I don't know where should it be, then my comments are usually "move" , "please move to the right board", and etc. so the mod who reported it bad must have seen my comment but probably couldn't understand why would I report a post in the correct section, which was worthy of a "bad" status.

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A detailed comment could have avoided this " mistake " : This topic has no place in section XXX, please move it to section YYY.

In that case if someone wants to increase their report records, they can simply report topics in the correct section and claim it should be moved to the correct section and their report will still be marked good because when the mods see it - they will think it was actually in the wrong section before another mod moved it.

In other words, I could report the same post again and say "This topic has no place in 'meta', please move to 'bitcoin technical support'", when a mod sees that report, they will think it was actually moved from meta which is not the case, am I wrong? I hope so.

Anyway, I think it would help if mods had a way to check the post history.
3725  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: S9K Stock firmware SSH unlocked + Control fan on: July 21, 2020, 05:32:14 PM

Since the lights flash constantly i think the sdcard is fine, but maybe the way he puts the files on the sdcard is wrong, the files need to be in the Sdcard directory itself, not in a folder whatsoever, I see a lot of people make this mistake, if files are correctly placed then using another Sdcard is the next best move.

All I want to do is underclock this PoS.

Not sure if this modified firmware will allow you to underclock it, wait for thierry4wd to confirm.
3726  Other / Meta / Can moderators see where was a post reported? on: July 21, 2020, 05:16:48 PM
 
I reported this topic for being in the wrong board, it's now in the right section but that was not the case earlier, I saw this topic in the mining board IIRC, but it doesn't matter where it actually was, I am sure it wasn't in bitcoin technical support when I reported it.

Now my report is marked "bad", which is nothing to worry about, but maybe one of the mods moved it without marking it and then another mod thought I reported it when it was in the right section, which makes me think that the mods don't get to see at what boards/sections posts were actually reported and if it happens to be moved before a mod notice the report - it will be a bad report.

3727  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: T17/S17 malfunction: cases, solutions, remedies, RMA history on: July 21, 2020, 06:34:01 AM
I can have all of this, i have a good environment and a separated clean space in my farm, its just to know where to start and what to buy and so on.

Obviosully I don't know what is inside the paid that course, my guess is that there is nothing worth buying in there, you can find free tutorials both videos and written format in https://www.zeusbtc.com/ the list of tools can be easily known by watching one of their videos fixing a miner, it's mainly

1- The fixture tool
2- A multimeter ( some specific models)
3- Heatgun
4- Solder paste

Those are off the top of my head, watch the videos and write down all the tools they use.
3728  Other / Meta / Re: Save your nice merit records here - LAST UPDATE: 08/07/2020 on: July 20, 2020, 02:03:45 PM
Reslut:

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Please don't use rude language here.  Wink

I guess you meant *Result*


And congrats to your Merit achievements!  Smiley

LOL... for a while I felt like I was TMAM (hope he is alive and safe), ya that was most certainly a typo, I read the post twice and it did look like "Result", maybe I don't have a dirty-mind after all (no pun intended  Tongue Tongue), Thanks for notifying me.  Kiss
3729  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New s9 upgrade thread. Some info is 🆙❤⚡ on: July 20, 2020, 03:28:56 AM
Is it a chinese company or something from europe?

My best guess is they are from China, or any other Asian country for that matter, cost wise U.S and Europe can't compete with China as far as mining is concerned, so nobody in their right mind would try to make those boards in EU.


.It is pretty obvious to me since they are not posting here so my guess is they do not want to sell here.

I find it strange, they do seem serious, you have a proof that their hash boards work as advertised, yet they don't seem desperate to sell their products, it is possible that somebody found his way to them and bought everything in bulk, thousands of S9 control boards are lying around doing nothing.
3730  Local / التعدين / Re: هل يمكن توصيل اجهزة الاسك او كروت الشاشة ب  on: July 19, 2020, 11:04:25 PM
بالطبع أخي حسب معلوماتي أصبحت أجهزة آسيك ماينر الحديثة تحتوي إمكانية استقبال الانترنت عن طريق واي فاي.

لا اعتقد انه يوجد اي جهاز Asic يحتوي على Wifi-Interface لقد وضعت يدي على تقريبا 80% من الاجهزة المتاحة في السوق سواء لاستعمالي الشخصي او لغرض الصيانة او الشراء والبيع ولم اجد اي جهاز Asic يحتوي على وايرلس.

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أيضا يمكن توصيل بعض أجهزة آسيك القديمة التي ليس فيها إمكانية تشغيل الانترنت عن طريق واي فاي عن طريق قطعة تقوم باستقبال الانترنت الواي فاي ثم تحوله إلى إيثرنيت (لكن غير متأكد تماما من هذه المعلومة)

نعم هده الطريقة الوحيدة المتاحة لربط اجهزة الاسك في حال عدم وجود  Switch \ Router بالجوار, هدا مثال على احد المنتجات https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Ethernet-2-WiFi-Universal-Wireless-GWU637/dp/B018YPWORE/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=wifi+to+ethernet+adapter&qid=1595199488&sr=8-3

يمكن البحث عن غيره من المنتجات باستعمال كلمات بحت مشابها لي wireless to lan adapter.

طريقة عمل هده القطعة هي استقبال الانترنت عبر الوايرلس وارسالها عبر مدخل كيبل الشبكة, طبعا ان كان لديك اكثر من جهاز يجب شراء Switch وتقوم باخراج كابل من هدا المحول ويدخل لل Switch ومنها تقوم بتغدية اجهزتك من السويتش, طبعا هدا الخيار جيد ولاباس به ولكن لايفصل استخدامه الا في الضرورة القصوى.

الخيار الافضل هوا ان تحضر كابل واحد من مكان ال Router - Switch للمكان الذي تضع فيه اجهزة التعدين, يدخل الكابل في ال Switch وتقوم بتغدية اجهزتك عبره,  في كل الاحوال يفضل الابتعاد عن الوايرلس في التعدين لان كل packet يرسلها جهاز التعدين = $ وثقنية الواي فاي معرضة لفقدات بعض ال Packets , الامر طبعا ليس سيء جدا ولكن ان كان خيار الكابل متوفر عليك استعماله.
3731  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: T17/S17 malfunction: cases, solutions, remedies, RMA history on: July 19, 2020, 05:55:18 PM
Phill those are 12cm fans for the miner itself, he is looking for Apw9' fans those small once 4cm square, can be found here https://m.tr.aliexpress.com/item/4000204047398.html

Where are you located? I will try to find a supplier in your area.
3732  Other / Meta / Re: Save your nice merit records here - LAST UPDATE: 08/07/2020 on: July 19, 2020, 01:18:12 AM
Saving my 2727 record



Next stop will be 3737, perhabs in "forever".  Cheesy




I see a few members who don't follow the topic rules, sizing you images is plain simple, when you upload a photo you get a URL like this

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https://i.ibb.co/By2vdw7/2727.png

It starts with HTTP and ends with .png/jpg

all you need to do is use this simple format

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[url=URL-GOES-HERE][img height=200]URL-GOES-HERE[/img][/url]

Result:

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3733  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: بحاجة لمساعدة متعلقة بالمدونة on: July 18, 2020, 11:22:11 PM
تفضل أخي مايكي: bc1qrwflxx6px78d3sdh8afq6ta0fmyjv0t6vf3a0z. تكلفة دومين هي 12.16 دولار للعام الواحد و لا داعي لارسال أكثر من ذلك، سوف أتكفل بتجديده في المستقبل.

قمت بارسال 14$ تحسبنا لاحتياجك لدفع 1$ تقريبا لعملية التحويل

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929bea74ea8098dce84ff8fecd3933d84fcbddba2a5984588c9d3b0041d389aa

اما بخصوص التجديد في المستقبل فأن استمر الاخ  daneal stev في الكتابة في المدونة واراد الاستمرار فيمكنني تحمل تكاليفها لوقت غير محدود, ويمكن دفع التجديد لسنوات اكثر, طبعا هدا ان كنت من اهل الدنيا بعد مرور السنة الاولى "التجريبية" شكرا اخ Omega وبالتوفيق.
3734  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoin Mining Hashrate and Power Analysis | BitOoda Research on: July 17, 2020, 11:45:17 PM
Nice summary you got over there, Last of the V8s brought this article to our attention in the difficulty thread, for those who don't want to read even the short version of yours, the study assumes the following.

1- The average cost for mining worldwide is 3 cents per Kwh
2- In 12 months from now bitcoin hashrate will double given that bitcoin prices increase by 25–35%

And here are my thoughts on their conclusion


3735  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 256 blocks solved! on: July 17, 2020, 10:37:45 PM
Feeling lucky!
1/4 PH rental in place!
 Grin

Well, according to http://solochance.com (since I am too lazy to do that maths) you have 1 in 400,094 chance in every block that comes from now until your rental is finished, and just like the rest of us you need a ton of luck, so I wish you the best of ot.

maybe he is talking about the bitcoin core wallet/node which is for Bitcoin not any of the shitty alts

Given the context, I am 100% possitive that he refers to BTC as bitcore core and nothing else,  kindly correct me if I am mistaken.
3736  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Asic.to Firmware S17+ 95th/s • T17+ 80th/s T17 40w/t • S17/T17 on over 200k Asic on: July 17, 2020, 10:09:11 PM
I've no reason to lie about it. Which pool were you testing with?

I know you don't, I tend to trust your words but it's common sense that you should provide a proof to support such a serious claim, I have interacted with you a lot of times and as I said I do tend to believe you, but if people ask for a proof you shouldn't take it personal, it's normal, now back to the real subject:

I highly think that there is something techinally wrong here, there are a ton of reasons why would your mining gear report less hashrate on the pool than shows on the miner status page, in order for anyone including the firmware devs to troubleshoot the issue - a few informations are needed.

1- Ping stats to the pool.
2- Screenshot from the miner status page that shows everything from time-elapsed, hashrate, hardware errors, stale, rejected, and etc.
3- Screenshot from the pool status showing all hashrate related details.
4- The kernel log.

There is a good chance that your gears simply didn't like the firmware and they were mining with a ton of hardware errors, or during the test your connection to the pool got lousy and a good amount of shares got lost in the way, or the miner was tunning for a whole hour or so (not exactly hashing to the pool) and you took that time into considerations, I mean there is a lot of reasons that can cause a huge difference of 14%, one of them of course is the dishonesty of the dev-fees which i highly doubt in this given situation.
3737  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Asic.to Firmware S17+ 95th/s • T17+ 80th/s T17 40w/t • S17/T17 on over 200k Asic on: July 17, 2020, 01:43:14 PM

I sent tasers a message on telegram, he will respond to your post soon (hopefully) he probably has an answer on how to go back to the original firmware, the difference in hash rate is huge to say the least, it is strange that you are the first to mention it, let us see what tas has to say on this matter.
3738  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: AntMiner FANS wanted on: July 17, 2020, 04:39:21 AM
This guy in France has Delta QFR1212GHE fans for sale

To clarify on the price as it may seem like too much ($15 as opposed to maybe $5 or less for the regular fans) these fans are worth the price, they push more air and they don't make that whining/high-pitched sound that the low quality fans make, the only downside about paying $30 for fans that will be installed on an old S9 is that they might never ROI, the good thing about these fans however, is the fact that you can use them on all other Antminers.
3739  Economy / Reputation / Re: nullius - Where are they now? on: July 17, 2020, 04:13:14 AM
He always struck me as a well-read, but unimpressive 14 year old.
That's not the impression I got, but even if it's true, I'd welcome such members over the usual spammers any time!

My first impression was that nullius was a genius "Bitcoiner", I enjoyed his techincal posts and I did learn some great stuff from him, somewhere down the line he made a 180 degree change in the content he provides to the forum, he went from that tech-savvy member to a repuation-addicted member, he got himself involved in all the mess of forum trust issues. So if he ever comes back, I hope he goes back to development & technical discussion, the place where he performs best.
3740  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Some very 'bad' news on s19 shipments. on: July 17, 2020, 02:06:41 AM
A shareholder of Zhan did a backroom sale of T17 miners,

Just for the record Zhan is one of the richest people on planet earth, he sits on over 5 billion U.S dollars, he doesn't have any kids and no wife, and he is in his 40s, it makes me wonder, what the hell does he want?  I also think he is a terrible CEO and despite all the bad things about Jihan's Wu he makes a better CEO, since we don't have data on their internal issues/ personalities - we can only judge based on the quality of the miners they made.

From November 2018 until end of October 2019 Jihan Wu wasn't the CEO of bitmain, and we all know what gears were made during that period, YES! you guessed right, the terrible 17 series with 30%+ failure rate.
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