But you just told me they weren't proof(s).  You said they weren't even evidence.   You said that it was pointing to evidence.

That's about as equivalent as me pointing to a a road sign and asking you what it means -- "STOP!"   ...Please.

1)  So, it "isn't really the evidence."  Well, I'm glad you finally agree it isn't proof.  It's evidence of evidence?  So, it's basically worthless on its own as far as reasoning about God.  Yep, that's about right.

2)  So, you're saying stuff in the Universe is evidence of stuff outside of the Universe.  Are you drunk?

3)  My end simply...what?  What the hell?

When you make up your own word meanings and (invalid) forms of reasoning, you just make meaningless statements.  None of what you say is relevant to anything and anyone.

Iran Tweets in English: "Israel Must Be Annihilated"

Media fails to cover THAT part of Netanyahu's speech


The "secret" treaty Obama/Kerry want won't stop an Iranian nuke
Netanyahu spells it out -- THAT'S why they hated his appearance



The lamestream media told you:
The lamestream media told you:

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gave a highly controversial speech before Congress on March 3, 2015. Many democrats boycotted the speech, people in Israel thought it was a political stunt, and the president made a big deal out of deciding not to watch it. Mr. Obama and Mr. Netanyahu do not get along.



The Uninvited Ombudsman notes however that:
The Uninvited Ombudsman notes however that:

The crucial parts of Netanyahu's speech were in the beginning.

These were excluded from most U.S. "news" reports, but having watched the whole thing live I heard it. My jaw dropped. A simple web search provides anyone with the transcript.

You heard about the controversy, the fact that the man currently in the White House turned his back on the speech -- from our greatest ally in the Middle East! isolated among endless murderous muslim maniacs in the region.

Here's what the "news" didn't give you -- the news. FACTS about the blood thirsty madmen seeking atom bombs, literally being aided and abetted by our own president and secretary of state -- unimaginably impeachable offenses. These are not minor glitches or problems. These are full-fledged nightmares.

Netanyahu shed light: "Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei spews the oldest hatred, the oldest hatred of anti-Semitism with the newest technology. He tweets that Israel must be annihilated -- he tweets! You know, in Iran, there isn't exactly free Internet. But he tweets in English that Israel must be destroyed."

Have you seen that in the "news"? No of course not. It would upset their narrative. We need a man to come here from the other side of the world to say it, so the man in the White House can turn his back -- and our media can decide it's not important enough to repeat.

He continues: "For those who believe that Iran threatens the Jewish state, but not the Jewish people, listen to Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, Iran's chief terrorist proxy. He said: 'If all the Jews gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of chasing them down around the world.'"

I am not making this up. Neither is Netanyahu. Have you seen that in the "news"? No of course not. It would upset their narrative of "controversy." We need a man to come here from the other side of the world to say it, so the person in the White House can turn his back and our media can decide not to dwell on it.

"But Iran's regime is not merely a Jewish problem, any more than the Nazi regime was merely a Jewish problem... The people of Iran are very talented people. They're heirs to one of the world's great civilizations. But in 1979, they were hijacked by religious zealots -- religious zealots who imposed on them immediately a dark and brutal dictatorship. That year, the zealots drafted a constitution, a new one for Iran. It directed the revolutionary guards not only to protect Iran's borders, but also to fulfill the ideological mission of jihad. The regime's founder, Ayatollah Khomeini, exhorted his followers to 'export the revolution throughout the world.'

"America's founding document promises life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Iran's founding document pledges death, tyranny, and the pursuit of jihad. And as states are collapsing across the Middle East, Iran is charging into the void to do just that."

Israel's prime minister goes on to list Iran's "successes" in pursuit of jihad, all familiar to us, but never spelled out one after the other, connecting the dots.

And then Netanyahu warns us carefully:

"Don't be fooled. The battle between Iran and ISIS doesn't turn Iran into a friend of America.

"Iran and ISIS are competing for the crown of militant Islam. One calls itself the Islamic Republic. The other calls itself the Islamic State. Both want to impose a militant Islamic empire first on the region and then on the entire world. They just disagree among themselves who will be the ruler of that empire.

"In this deadly game of thrones, there's no place for America or for Israel, no peace for Christians, Jews or Muslims who don't share the Islamist medieval creed, no rights for women, no freedom for anyone.

"So when it comes to Iran and ISIS, the enemy of your enemy... is your enemy."

And these people want the atom bomb, and are determined to get it. Right now, Secretary of State Kerry is working to give it to them. He is naively negotiating with these savages, agreeing to terms that are unenforceable, conditions that cannot be verified, guarantees that cannot be confirmed, and that doesn't even matter, because in a mere few years, the entire agreement expires, and Iran is totally unrestricted and can do whatever it pleases. It's as if Obama wants Iran to have nuclear weapons.

Netanyahu points out that the only difference between the warring factions, "is that ISIS is armed with butcher knives, captured weapons and YouTube, whereas Iran could soon be armed with intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear bombs."

Speaking only of publicly available information (he was scolded for using secret intelligence, but made it clear everything he "revealed" was already on Google), "To defeat ISIS and let Iran get nuclear weapons would be to win the battle, but lose the war... that, my friends, is exactly what could happen, if the deal now being negotiated is accepted by Iran. That deal will not prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons. It would all but guarantee that Iran gets those weapons, lots of them."

And he goes on to detail how all of Iran's nuke plants continue to exist, grow, operate and make enriched uranium. Inspectors can document violations -- but can't stop them. And like North Korea, Iran breaks the locks, takes out the cameras, and plays "hide and cheat," constantly. These aren't Boy Scouts -- they are villains. They've been caught twice with huge secret nuke plants -- not barrels of uranium, that inspectors didn't know existed. The chief IAEA inspector said, "If there's no undeclared installation today in Iran, it will be the first time in 20 years that it doesn't have one."

Netanyahu told us, in front of Congress: "Iran's Supreme Leader says Iran plans to have 190,000 centrifuges, not 6,000 or even the 19,000 that Iran has today, but 10 times that amount -- 190,000 centrifuges enriching uranium. With this massive capacity, Iran could make the fuel for an entire nuclear arsenal and this in a matter of weeks, once it makes that decision."

Did the "news" media report any of this to you? This is the important part of Bibi's speech. And there is nothing controversial about Israel in this. Iran is the controversy here. And our media -- now among our greatest enemies -- is a root problem for us. They are keeping you in the dark. Iran plans to make enough enriched uranium for an arsenal of nukes, not a bomb, they want to annihilate our greatest ally. We're their greatest enemy, and you had to read my report to find out. Hmmm.

Netanyahu's not done: " Now I want you to think about that. The foremost sponsor of global terrorism could be weeks away from having enough enriched uranium for an entire arsenal of nuclear weapons and this with full international legitimacy.

"And by the way, if Iran's Intercontinental Ballistic Missile program is not part of the deal, and so far, Iran refuses to even put it on the negotiating table. Well, Iran could have the means to deliver that nuclear arsenal to the far-reach corners of the Earth, including to every part of the United States... That's why this deal is so bad. It doesn't block Iran's path to the bomb; it paves Iran's path to the bomb."

And Mr. Obama is designing it with Mr. Kerry, who claim ignorance. Who knows, maybe they are. That's why Mr. Netanyahu came here  to speak directly to us.

Then the controversial part (according to our press) -- if Iran wants a good deal, stop behaving so badly, stop exporting terrorism, stop your path to nuclear weapons, stop your brutality at home and abroad, treat your woman like humans, endure sanctions while you behave so badly, Israel will always remain a staunch ally of the U.S., and we know we in Israel can count of you in America, but we cannot and will not allow this to occur no matter what, for the sake of the world. You can read it all online.

Yeah, that's not proof.  How many times do we need to tell you this?

That's called "really bad suggestive reasoning" with conclusions that in no way follow from the premises.

There cannot be conclusive, empirical evidence for something that is, by definition, non-empirical.  

It's impossible.  The end.  Talk less, listen more.

He has no choice, he's brain dead now, all he can do is shit stir, and he know's it, hence the quoting VOD/OYO's photo, (the paedohero costume) Like he did with the joint, as admitted by him, a laugh is one thing, but the photo's are proving they are one and the same, look at oyo's photo, then look at VOD's trust, follow the paedo accusation, which incidently, has a photo.. proving they are one and the same as I thought..

BADecker, I know we like shaggin oop's, slaggin each utha, but to support a paedo is beyond even you I thought..

Clearly I thought wrong..

You dont have the right to talk here until you disprove the sequoia

By extended vocabulary, do you mean misspelling every second word (even with spell check) and making up others altogether? I feel sorry for your kids, that is if you really have any. Did your parents have any kids that lived?

As far as my counter attacks on you goes, I've done so when you attack other people too, not just Vod. Is it my fault somehow that you have a hard on for him?

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DUH! I'M GOD!
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It was settled as a Christian society by England before its Independence. The U.S. inherited that Christian foundation, as many of the architects of the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights (7 years later) were religious, in their public life, but non practicing in their private affairs. (For example, our first elected* President, George Washington. He was a dues paying member of over a dozen churches, even a board member on several, but rarely attended a Sunday service while home in Mt. Vernon, Virginia. Yet, on public trips, made a show to attend church services several times a week.)

*President of the Continental Congress was a largely ceremonial position. Therefore, most (all) historians begin the first presidency, with George Washington, in 1789.




EDIT: In my head, I was mixing up the Bill of Rights with the Treaty of Paris...Bill of Rights was 15 years later, not 7.

No, because that would be a logical fallacy. Just because there is no proof of god cannot exist, it would be a fallacy to automatically assume yours is true.

proof
[proof]


noun
1. evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth.

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LA Public School Teaching Kids "Allah is the One True God"







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Big deal! I remember getting tested a lot on Yahweh and Haile Selassie I when I was in public school... Just like that!


Not.


 

You're certainly one to talk about stupid ramblings. 

So by your logic God patterned us off something more advanced found in nature?