Chances are a few taxes won't have to be paid and you keep the remainder anyway.
If you've read OP, you would know that's not (entirely) true.
Terms
- Any BTC that is left over (because the package wasn't checked, the BTC value went up, etc) will be evenly distributed between the participants.
- If we are somehow short of BTC, I'll cover it up front. The amount of BTC will be evenly distributed between participants. Your package won't be sent if you don't pay your part of the debt. If you don't pay at all, your Bitcoin Penny™ will be auctioned off to cover the cost and any leftovers are kept.
If you (for example) check one of the last group buys Mitchell organised, you'll see that's exactly what he did. |
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I asked Zazarb for the loan but he isn't online right now so is anyone else interested?
From my experience, zazarb is both, online quite often, and trying to fund every loan he possibly can. Seeing as you already had a (or multiple) deal(s) with him, I'd suggest you to wait for zazarb to get online again, and ask him to fund this loan for you. Hello! I done over $2,000 dollars in trades on the currency exchange forum with 100% positive feedback.
You also sold a starbucks giftcard for 60 BTC according to your feedback. And you've given feedback with a 'risked amount' of 15 BTC ($6900) over a $15 trade.
Sounds a lot like trust farming to me.
Doesn't only sound that way. (Image source: Feedback page of Skeptical One)  |
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Would like to point some of you towards the Meta subforum
No need to be shy, your posts over there will be paid aswell. since it is being discussed that signatures should be stripped away
Well, it started as discussion about account farming, which inevitably let to signatures comming up aswell. and there is a lack of signature users in the thread to counter the view point that signatures are mostly spammers.
There might be a reason for that, and no, being afraid isn't it. As it stands the vocal mods and crew are acting like this is a done deal and are talking about how they should proceed.
Bullshit, Lauda said several times that he isn't seeing the suggestions being taken in/any action being taken. There have however been some suggestions, which are being discussed and developed in the thread, it's far away from anyone 'acting like this is a done deal'. Don't take thinking things fully through for more than it is. This is just one thread there are others where we are under attack as well.
Are you Robin 'evildrum' Hood, avenger of the poor yobit users, who have to fight back against the Sheriff of Modingham, which has done them injustice once again? |
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So we shall see if the signature is meek,timid and voiceless in due time.
I'm a signature campaign manager, and hence directly involved with signature campaigns (deeper than some YoBit spammers, you might even say). I still have to say that there have been several valuable inputs to this thread, and that I'd rather see this 'very lopsided' discussion from people that actually care, than 100 posts from alt-account xyz saying "All signatures are good, I earn from it" in a slightly different way over and over again.
So I have pointed Yobit towards this thread to voice their concerns here
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True, but there would be fewer accounts that are over a year old and they would cost more.
With over 800k accounts currently, even when taking off those that are either lost (due to the owner leaving), will never be sold or those that are banned, aswell as those that are not (yet) at the age restriction you want to implement, that is hardly a limit to the market. |
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Can someone please explain to me how such an exploit is even possible?
That's easy: There is none. I will also post a thread on how to make 10 btc in a month. Or should I just sell my method?
Hm, has it anything to do with telling naive guys you've found an "exploit" to the blockchain and running away with their "investments"? Because I've seen that method before. |
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So "Heroes" if the loan is filled lock the thread?
Not a hero, but as you can clearly see a) the process for this loan to get filled has been initiated. b) while OP is ready to offer collateral, this is to be altcoin collateral, not their account. c) there are still some things to clear up, what is the reason for this thread to be not locked yet.
I can grant this loan
Oh, zaza... |
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dice/gambling not good for earning btc
loser and loser
But you'd gladly take anything Primedice gives you for wearing their signature, right? Such hypocisy...
@OP: IIRC there were already some services offering to gamble on the pool to mine the next block, would have to search for it though.Nvm, they have already been posted. |
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Closing Monday? So it's still time for me to jump in!
I'd take 2x the 2-Pack, 4x Airtiles and 2x SN coins.
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Owh no.. is it a scam? I didnt know actually. Coz i just join for a month. No idea whether it is a scam or not.
It should be obvious it is. Just take a look at it... By providing help to bitkingdom community, u will get 1% return everyday.
Sounds like your usual 'not a ponzi' investor-based games site. Started by a newbie throwaway account, which shows how much confidence the operator has in this all playing out well in the end. This would mean that your btc will increase 100% after 100 days.
More likely your btc will decrease to 0% after X days. Do pm me for details, i am a registered bitkingdom members bearing username CHE5548MY.
They got a referral system, right? This is getting better with every sentence. Keeping the btc in ur own wallet will not give you any earning. Lets join the community.
I won't lose them when the ponzi operator runs either. Let's not invest stupidly with every random scam site.
I'd suggest you to delete your post up there. |
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stopping the account sale may also stop or the lessen the circulation of bitcoin. and so it has to be decided carefully as the economy of the bitcoin is more important.
If you really think bitcointalk account sales are any notable, considerable weight in the bitcoin economy, your horizon has to be very small. Even worse, if they really were that important to the economy... what i can suggest however is just make the account sale transparent instead. a list as to who bought who and when...
So, the solution for getting rid of account farming is, making account sales 'transparent'? Besides the issue, that this would never be (fully) possible, as being easy to avoid, that's a bullshit suggestion. The majority of posters in this thread wants to stop account sales, not to encourage them in any way.
It's why campaigns need to set the entry barrier high as well. Don't accept low ranking members and check the post quality of those applying so that you don't have to keep kicking people out.
Agreed, from a newbie/junior members history (the brief one that exists at that point of time), you can hardly evaluate their future posting behaviour, whilst with higher ranking members (considering they didn't change hands inbetween), you mostly get a good estimate on how they post/behave.
That's what it has become. And that was a multi-account spammer.
It's funny how reporting a post/thread can backfire at you. another forum sheriff , seem usual for this user to judge the over for nothing ...
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Alle Jahre wieder :-)
Hach, Ich schon wieder  Dankeschön! |
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This weeks post count has been initiated and completed the other hour.
Payments will be done a little later today, aswell as my usual PM round.
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I am deemed insincere based on your perception or you know something that I do not? This thread is about spam and there is not mention of Yobit till you decided to address a personal issue you seem to have with my post but used my signature to attack it.
This is about spamming, YoBit and Spamming go together every second time the spam issue comes up. Sadly I do not think you have a leg to stand on this attempt to smear me and Yobit because I was on topic and you went sideways.
Agree to disagree, I think he has a point. Its not spam,signatures or Investor threads you people dislike,its that you feel that you can judge people based on these aspects.
Pretty sure it indeed is spam and ponzis I dislike. Also, I'm pretty sure judging people based on their actions (and their words) is a fair thing to do. What you really are saying when you take issue with this is you hate poor people and have a lean to being racist
I don't care where you're from, might it be Mars (s/o to Laudas cat). When you spam, that's the thing I care about, same goes for scammers/ponzi promoters. otherwise you should be able to float past the garbage threads you deem unbearable and contribute on your own.
Total bullshit, why should I have to cope up with tons of garbage, that is not bringing any benefit at all to this forum/its users? Does this not sound like anything in the real world? Maybe the government!
We could also call it administration/moderation, couldn't we? Anywhere you've heard those two things already? Maybe over here? Control and they will come? Is that the idea because you guys are not cleaning up bitcoins image by making this into some kind of cult of good.
So you'd rather have the 'image' of bitcoin(talk) be tied to bullshit users posting bullshit replies full of bullshit, for the sake of being 'uncontrolled'? This whole issue with language does not fit,mainly because there are how many sub forums committed to different languages?
And if I go into one of those local boards, typing my posts via google translate or some other crappy translator, speaking their language barely to none, don't you think they will kick my ass sooner than I can say 'buttcoin'? Eliminate them if you want better posts and make it clear that English is required because people could not make sense of poorly written threads.
English is required for the english section as is russian for the russian and croatian for the croatioan. What's so hard to understand about this? |
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I'm saying they wouldn't even pay the 2BTC for the status... they just spam on accounts with no signature until they get high enough to get some type of value for the account, if they get banned for spamming, its just lost time. Eventually they either sell the account without 'Supporter' status or they purchase the 'Supporter' status right before they sell the account, and subsequently mark up the price of the account and advertise it as "having Supporter status"
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They could also come up with workarounds to the situation and start paying people on just mentioning their company name in a post...
Quoting Lauda from earlier: "We don't need a perfect solution, we just need a good one." I would also question what the advertisers are going to do when they see a drop in people using their advertisements. Advertisers are paying out for a reason and I'm sure they are making money off of these spammers in some fashion so I could see them increasing payouts, they are going to have extra funds anyway when the numbers drop in people using the signatures.
Yet, there currently are advertisers which get along maintaining a substantial campaign without producing mass-spam on the way. |
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I disagree.We're forgetting the main goals of our existence in this forum,we're here for bitcoins and casting our opinions on the subjects rather than investing money for ROI in terms of signature campaigns.
You wouldn't lose that main point when signatures are taken from 'normal' users and only are allowed for some restricted group. A better fix could be something more flexible,more efficient.Why do I see some campaigns causing less spam compared to other ? Managers ? Rules ? Fixed Posts ? Even though this seems like a complex option but could be analyzed .
It's not too complex, believe me. |
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Ask him yourself why he is doing it?
Gonna have a hard time doing that, last time I checked banned accounts were neither allowed to post, nor to write PMs. It's not ok to spam rubbish as fast as you can just to rank up, but banned him for copying and pasting along with another account.
I dont know but maybe he doesnt realize what he is doing and is totally obvious to the account sales and activity.
Oh, he knows, just have a look at the posts. Are these kinds of spams worthy of being negged or banned?
For part 2, take the response from hilarious. For the first part, it's up to you how you use the trust system, and you're free to do it the way you think it's right. Whilst there are guidlines for how to use it, when you think a feedback is due, you can leave one as you like. However, I'd generally advice against leaving negative trust over posts/post quality. |
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Surely you have read enough of this forum being as active as you are to know if I am making off the cuff remarks or if there is weight behind what I am saying.
I'm aware that some people are leaving (or switch to being 'passive'), albeit I disagree that they're leaving because of some "trust police" or whatever exactly you were referring to. But...that would mean there are some other problems we have to face.
The problem you face is there will for sure be competing forum that is going to be set up for those that are anti government and establishment.
This isn't the only bitcoin discussion forum, hence there is no need to fear 'competition', as it is already out there. If there is not yet a place like this as the forum moves towards crossing out a few aspects that draw people here.
If those people where a) the kind of people this forum wants to attract and b) coming here for the reasons this forum wants to 'draw' people, which mostly they are not these days. BAN SIGNATURES FOR FORUM MEMBERS WHO HAVE NOT DONATED TO THE FORUM.
Create a new level of donator called the "Supporter" that can be reached with a 2 BTC donation to bitcointalk.
Only Supporters, Donators, & VIPs are then allowed to have signatures. Perhaps with each level carrying different restrictions.
Another approach, which is definitely worth discussing, although I have to agree with suchmoon on the few points he has brought up in response: A variation of it would be limiting 'non-donators' to members/full members signatures, whilst the ones that donated amount X are allowed to carry the signatures they have right now. Or something a little more reconsidered/worked out, going in this direction. |
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