So what do you guys think the best GPU for money is? I am looking to get 1 and then expand my rig as time passes. What would be best to start with?
7970. Don't waste your time with anything else.
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Definitely a scam. Using ripped off stock images from the web for their site.
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Butterfly Labs shipped on April 1st. You should be expecting your orders any day now.
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Buy Asicminer passthrough shares instead
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I placed my order for a 5GH/s unit on 5th. April, it cost me 2.62BTC including shipping, in order to get 5GH/s worth of USB devices you would have to purchase 17 units, and spend over 33BTC, even if my order takes several months to turn up, I will still be ahead.
You are not taking into consideration reasonable shipping time for your April 5th order, nor are you taking network difficulty into consideration 6-8 months from now - hopefully when you might receive the product you have ordered. If you were to spend those 33 BTC for 17 Erupter units right now, you are starting to ROI much sooner. Your BFL preorder is a depreciating asset with every passing day, and unless you are a June or July 2012 order, my gut is telling me "Good luck seeing your order this year."
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... I'm moving on with investments in other ASIC operations and by continuing to shine the light on BFL's business practices. Additionally, welcome to my ignore list. But I'd have thought you've had enough of BFL by now
Please don't assume. I'm merely poking a hole in your logic. Believe me. I'm not ever ordering another product from BFL. I can't. Won't even via proxy on principle. Now, if BFL wants to make this right and turn me into a believer, well, shit... I should just wake up from that dream, huh ? You know you are out of it now with BFL - move on
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But I'd have thought you've had enough of BFL by now
Please don't assume. I'm merely poking a hole in your logic. Believe me. I'm not ever ordering another product from BFL. I can't. Won't even via proxy on principle. Now, if BFL wants to make this right and turn me into a believer, well, shit... I should just wake up from that dream, huh ?
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they wouldn't accept your order and you know it
There are any number of ways to purchase BFL products via family, trusted friends, or other proxies. I'm not sure you thought that through to it's logical conclusions.
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1. I have a 2012 BFL order - sit on it -wait for it - you know it's coming - be one of the first to cash in on the coins.
There's a big difference between knowing something is coming, and knowing when something is coming. I know I am going to die at some point. I don't want to know when. When we pre-order a product, and have waited for 11 months, it's not unreasonable to have an estimation of when it might be coming. "Next week" or "Next month" ad-nauseam grates on ones nerves after a while when you see the other horses you didn't bet on winning the race. Oh, and the jockey of the horse you bet on is throwing shit in your face while he's losing the race.
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I thought at 10 pages this was silly, but now 17?? Keep going folks, this will surely resolve the issues..
There is nothing further to resolve at this point, other than continuing to shine a bright light on BFL's business practices. I'll be joining you in the consumption of popcorn.
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I feel for ya Xian.But I must remain silent.........................
I understand. Did you mean this ? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBZottyz.jpg&t=663&c=m1zWOUd-s5zzEg)
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or did you think BFL might say 'you know what, this guy has gone waaaayyyy too far - give him his money back and get rid' ?
We obviously know the answer to that now, don't we ? I've already admitted I expressed my frustration a little bit too harshly. I really shouldn't make excuses. What more do you want me to say ? Additionally, no, I wouldn't expect them to ship, because I recognized they don't have any product to ship. Expecting timely and accurate information was too much to ask for.
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Xian01 - his motive is unclear - he's lost a 2012 order - he could have sold it for 10x the price he paid if he wasn't such an idiot - to me the only thing I can think is that he's an idiot...
Not sure I would go so far with the idiot classification. Disgruntled and bitter, sure. Idiot ? Yeah, I guess I was an idiot holding out for 11 months, being strung along, and being OK with taking abuse from their COO. Except for that whole part where I was not OK with taking the abuse and constant delays, and expressed my displeasure in a pretty harsh way. In retrospect, I should have just taken a refund and bought Avalon or ASICMiner. I'm sure one day BFL will ship and I'll look at all you with your BFL rigs and I'll feel a pang of regret. It's too bad for me I can't keep my cool and bite-down hard on the ball when I'm getting it from behind.
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It is kinda fun now that s.dice is trading lower than IPO prices and it seems this month will be a loss again.
I'm looking to invest in other Bitcoin-related funds and I've heard grumblings in the ASICMiner threads about how this fund has been mismanaged by its owner. Might you be able to bring me up-to-date on why everyone is hating on sdice and evoorhees ? Apologies, and I'll admit I don't have the time to go wading through pages of threads, and hoping you might be able to link to a cliff-notes edition of what is wrong with this fund.
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Packages delivered! I'm filming the unboxing now!
I should have went with Avalon ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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Xian, how BFL found out your order details? I mean dude, what do you thinking when writing post in such tone if you knew they know your info and that they could easilly do this?
I made the mistake of thinking they wouldn't stoop to that level. It's non-trivial for BFL to link this username to their customer database. Another mistake of mine for using this moniker. It's telling that they decided to punish me for calling their COO out on admitting these forums were not important to their business, along with other vitriolic nonsense. I guess that was another lie as apparently these forums are important enough to cancel disgruntled former customers' order, for expressing their displeasure. It's almost like they have something to hide, and I just can't get the image of Josh Zerlan as "The Soup Nazi" out of my mind. *shrugs*
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make the impossible, possible.
http://zombo.com/ seems like a relevant link to post for some-odd reason.
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If wrenchmonkey is calm, rational, and fact-filled, then I'm the Queen of England. And yet another person to add to my ignore list. The BFL reality-distortion bubble is strong today. Nah, you're not even close to being objective. wrenchmonkey's posts have been calm, rational, logical and fact-filled. He has systematically bitch-slapped the trolls on pretty much every exchange. Your last sentence makes it clear you shouldn't be taken seriously anyway, poo-flinger. It's just another baseless jab, an attempt to provoke rather than debate.
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Let me fix that for you...
Fair enough. A misinterpretation on my part. I find the accusation that BFL is mining with their own hardware right now for profit as a bit hard to believe. That would require them to have volume of product to ship with; something they seemingly do not have yet, nor are in a position to divulge more accurate shipping details to their customers. If they want to mine with all their ASICs and only trickle them out to customers, there is nothing stopping them I suppose.
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