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3741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: iSpace SHA256 Mining Pool Support Thread on: April 16, 2016, 11:58:47 AM
merge mining UNO
bump

nice to see Granite added to the x11 mix Wink
3742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ASIC (a coin / a decentralized company / a network) :: the mining business on: April 16, 2016, 11:44:04 AM
Which Alt-Coin without ASIC is the best to mine? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1365709.0
Best Coin to Mine with a GPU https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=920129.0


X11 MINING WITH SCRYPT ASIC? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1429179.msg14463779#msg14463779
http://www.dualminer.com/


Get More For Your Hash! Merge Mine Unobtanium with Bitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1398077.0
Mining Unobtanium? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163819.0
3743  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is happening (if anything) with BitCNY? on: April 16, 2016, 06:37:31 AM
BitAssets (bitUSD, bitCNY, ... bitGold) are designed to track the price of those "real world" assets without counterparty risk on the blockchain.

So think of them as financial tools.  You can switch your exposure to price movements in 3 seconds by trading between them.

Think of BitShares as a special purpose currency factory that offers a way to create a variety of useful hybrid "smart coins" that breed desirable features from multiple currency strains.  Some are trustless.  Some engineer blockchain-assisted trust.  Some represent real assets mapped onto the blockchain by trust alone. Others are stable with respect to external assets that may or may not be stable themselves.  Some are deterministically self-contained mathematical constructs.  Others extract order from the unpredictable external consensus of generally clueless people.  Our industry is generating a Cambrian Explosion of new coin species.  

So, when you evaluate any particular coin, you shouldn't be comparing it to some preconceived idea of what your ideal one-size-fits-all universal coin should be.  That's like saying everyone should standardize on a single retirement mutual fund.   The blockchain world has moved waaaaaay beyond that.

When somebody says "So think of them as..." you can guess they are about to try to assfuck you. And then "deterministically self-contained mathematical constructs", oh no, and "a special purpose currency factory" oh yes yes yes.

The bitxxx market on Poloniex can be summarized as "Here is an oppportunity to convert your money into bitcoin, then buy an asset that will decline in value as bitcoin increases in value".

Why is it marketed on Poloniex? Because it provides capital to sneaky fucknuts using complicated terminology who want cheap money to invest that they can pay back at a discount.

I get the cynicism.  At the end of the day someone must buy these tokens at stated face value.  
"deterministically self-contained mathematical constructs"
The determination is self contain IF AND ONLY IF large lots of these pegged tokens can move large lots of value at stated value.

But crypto really, honestly needs these pegs.
"So think of them as..."
Yes tools.  You can trust your $usd in a bank account, a MtGox account, BitAssets account, or a Nubits ledger.  But your going to need to trust someone until you convert your $money into physical gold or silver.  Everything else is credit, so was once said.

These virtual gold, silver, CNY, USD, EUROs are need in crypto to port value.
So yes again, they are important tools.

Hold them like a hot potato, pass them quickly for someone else to hold.

I personally would use them to move fiat value from exchange to exchange.  And opening a fiat/crypto pairing can thus be accomplished with these virtual products.

Long term there will be a DAC or DAO, depending on their motives, that becomes widely trusted with these kinds of products.  There will likely be depositor insurance, and small interest yields, and function just like a bank account less the overhead.

But for long term storage of commodity money.  A greater revolution is needed.  These virtual gold, silver, CNY, USD issuers are going to have to actually hold in a vault the real physical product.  Which is a legal stick icky spot to stand.  But some one will build it, and they will come.
3744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which crypto-coins are "investment securities"? Implications? on: April 16, 2016, 05:03:11 AM
i nominate TPTB_need_war for Chief Judge of the Super Court of Cryptolandistan
i nominate Spoetnik as Chief Prosecutor for the State of Bitcoin
3745  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PR(o)] ✪ Prototanium 119 ✪ <<财富>> ◣Its like UNO, because it is.◥ on: April 15, 2016, 07:02:22 PM
If UNO devs decide they need a new testnet, they will "fork" testnet, and PR will just go on living as it has.  Cryptapus settled that debate.  

debate over

Quote
Go to miningrigrentals.com and rent a little hash (1tb or less) and point it at wmikrut.com pool.

okay windows client SOL
but network is up and mining

in the
meantime get funds for a dev Wink

3746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update to 0.10 Wallet - Merge Mine w/BTC! on: April 15, 2016, 06:50:18 PM
>>> Coin of the Decade <<< https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1437428.0
marked for the time capsule

3747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why Doge coin is bad on: April 15, 2016, 06:44:56 PM
Spoetnik

"They all fucking suck"TM

humor
get sum!


i'd donate to see 'penguin guy with ak' mowing down fleeing alt coins
3748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: top20 cons on: April 15, 2016, 06:33:31 PM
@kingcolex

allow me to correlate ...
sarcasm ... you get none!

the philosophy of the use of 'con' is captured in this quote:
Low market cap & poorly supported coins are a great way to teach yourself financial cryptography, and get an idea of what some of the scams, hustles, and outright frauds that go on with pretty much anything involving money. The only difference between shitcoins, bitcoins, and dollars are the sophistication of the scams.
3749  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: top20 cons on: April 15, 2016, 06:30:27 PM
Please add Radium as well

no

hit top20 market cap and vol, then ... yes Wink
3750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SMC] SmartCoin | Next generation currency | continued development on: April 15, 2016, 06:28:03 PM
SMC is 'voluntaryist'

and that is simply smart
3751  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: To everyone converting BTC to ETH on: April 15, 2016, 06:25:50 PM
so NXT, BTS, ETH, LISK, iota, MAID etc ...
all ipo/ico coins will fail.mark my words.

the MAN has spoke
3752  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / top20 cons on: April 15, 2016, 06:13:19 PM
this is based on real evidence ... daily volume paired with associated projects  Wink

i kid you NAT! http://coinmarketcap.com/all/views/all/

----
aug15 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1585697
3753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [xMRo / UNO] wealth investment guide on: April 15, 2016, 05:44:54 PM
vol. april 15

btc $ 50,872,800
eth $ 12,981,000
xrp $     192,039

ltc  $ 1,210,500    
xmr  $ 398,528
maid $ 212,454
doge $ 125,706    
dgb  $90k    



dream team is @#3 if me math works ... my condolences XRP ... rust in peace  Grin
3754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [xMRo / UNO] wealth investment guide on: April 15, 2016, 09:38:04 AM
dream team
3755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ ★★ 15% APR ★★ uᴉoɔʇᴉq Community Coin ✪ BϾϾ ✪ on: April 15, 2016, 08:36:42 AM
PoS verses PoS3 (Blackcoin) ... this is released already?

PoSP (Crypto Bullion) ... v2.3.3 ... still crashes on me ... i don't care ... i like the formula ... think it is a winner just still a little buggy

3756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The legends of bitcointalk should make our own altcoin together, thoughts? on: April 15, 2016, 08:27:26 AM
1.  TALK is the bitcointalk coin and has been around for 16 months.  Any legends wanting to talk the time to download it can have a fistfull (from me).  Heros can have some too.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864994.0

2.  Cannabiscoins are in talks towards getting together and support one project.   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=874423.0

3.  If CON wants to focus on the extremely famous and/or notorious persons of BCT, I support that idea.  It looks like there is a growing team of talent actively working on CON.  

well TALK turned 2 years old a few hours ago
still a shitcoin POS with some check point warning (no dev)
but STILL HERE!

And yes still focused on being the coin of for and by The legends of bitcointalk; among other goals.

Looking back on the above quote from July, TALK has faired better than CON (but they have a nicer client) and TALK has preformed better than the CANNabis coins, if you grant we worked up from rock bottom and the CANNabis collection is still trying to hold the midrange on marketcap and trade.

re: The distro

We have a very nice block explorer now ... looks like many of the original airdrop handouts (something like 12k to 1200 members) are mostly dormant ... so possible good as burned.

I will still give a starter kit to legends from my stash Wink
I was able to buy 20k on the market plan on distro those via tips to anyone doing honest TALK on the bitcointalk threads.

  
3757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Poloniex DDOS! ain't nobody got time for that! DDOS(jam)-proof DEX alternatives on: April 15, 2016, 08:16:31 AM
Polo is #1 EXCHANGE
that has pissed off many well funded BTC based exchanges

they will be DDOS'd to the limit!
3758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ ★★ 15% APR ★★ uᴉoɔʇᴉq Community Coin ✪ BϾϾ ✪ on: April 15, 2016, 08:07:14 AM
Bittrex made the following announcement about de-listing of some alt-coins:

Thank you for using bittrex.com.

We will be removing the following wallets on 05/01/2016. Once removed, we will not be able to retrieve your funds. Please remove all coins ASAP. Note, that some of these coins have broken blockchains where we will not be able to send coins.

No exceptions will be made once the wallets are removed.

     Notice: The following wallets will be removed. Please withdrawal any coins you may have in these wallets.
Symbol   Coin Name
ASN   Ascension
AXIOM   Axiom
CF   Californium
CRAVE   Crave
DIBS   Dibbits
GEN   Genstake
GSM   GSMCoin
HYP   HyperStake
KOBO   KoboCoin
LDOGE   LiteDogecoin
M1   SupplyShock
NKT   Nakas
OCTO   OCTO
OPAL   OpalCoin
SHELL   ShellCoin
XRA   RateCoin
XSI   StabilitySharesXSI

     Notice: The following wallets will be removed due to broken block chains.  These coins cannot be withdrawn.
Symbol   Coin Name
BST   BitStone
BTCRY   BitCrystal
CHILD   X-Children
CIRC   CryptoCircuits
DRKT   DarkTron
DUB   Dubstep
GLOBE   Global
GRAV   Graviton
GRM   GridmasterCoin
IBITS   iBits
KTK   KryptKoin ?what do they do with the coins?
MACRO   MACRO
MYST   MystCoin
OMC   Omnicoin
SHIBE   ShibeCoin
VMC   VirtualMiningCoin
XBS   BitStake
XWT   WorldTradeFunds
3759  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: To everyone converting BTC to ETH on: April 15, 2016, 08:02:22 AM
Read a little about history of NXT, while jumping ship to ETH as a store of value. Compare the following two graphs...
a. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/#charts
b. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/#charts
Seems you were correct. How did you make such a near-exact prediction?

history tends to repeat.
ETH is going to run the course of NXT but likely retain x10 the amount of Capital.

What is more important is that Poloniex is the #1 exchange by volume today.
Reason ETH.

In time the core BTC/fiat exchanges will reclaim top volume ranks, but they have lost face, and BTC has fallen.
ETH challenged BTC and won.  BTC is now destined for a long slow fall from grace.  The BTC maximialist have lost.

You are looking at a future world where 4-5 coins fight for top daily volume, there will be a hot / cold market cycle from one to the next.

Yes ETH is a bubble.  But it is on the stage and not going away.  

3760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: >>> Coin of the Decade <<< on: April 15, 2016, 07:52:06 AM
UNO
still have 4 years to claim the title  Wink

-low inflation
-base pair markets
-and part of the bitcoin SHA256 network (read secure)
-caught BigVern have the evidence to send him to jail https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.msg14539017#msg14539017


UN supreme leader Kim Jung Un
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