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3741  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥 coinice.net 🔥 - Win BITCOINS to the best lottery platform! ⚡ on: September 07, 2020, 10:52:05 PM
I am seeing this thread from yesterday. But take some time to make a reply here. yes, it obviously the site is well designed and personally I like most the black/dark theme. But I can not understand why I am facing some confusion to trust this site. Maybe it could be changed to positive upon the OP's activity. So, I will suggest to everyone to wait a little bit before using this site.

Yrs no doubt the site's design is dope .
But still we need to test the legitimacy when it comes about our money.
The OP here or in any other social media platforms is not active for a very moment of time, and this is surely hampering the site's growth.
Moreover as i mentioned earlier the KYC thing will also be frowned up by many members in the Gambling world i bet.
Let's see what responses admin/Op come up with.
It should be always when it comes on dealing with new gambling site.We are depositing or risking our money on here thats why hesitance and trusting up cant really be given directly without convincing ourself
that this one is really worth of to be tried.I do like also the color combination but op should really be more active to answer peoples queries on here not just on posting up an ANN thread and leave up the rest for
the community to read. Lottery might not really be that appealing just like what mentioned on earlier page but this might have a chance but they should changed up their activeness
because people would just lose its interest if no one really responds out.

That's the huge mistake of business creator since if they will just rely on peoples curiousity  they will get nothing here people need a corresponding interaction with the developers and a good site to play so if they cannot provide that then expect a failure of business here. They should listen for what people told him here for betterment of player and to build their trust on the platform.
3742  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Reminder Everyone: If You Don't Have The Keys, Then It's Not Your Crypto on: September 07, 2020, 01:27:51 PM
Hi gentlemen of this beloveth forum, I wanna remind you guys to try as much as possible to never leave your bitcoins or any other crypto on an exchange except you are ready to loose them.

I just lost 78.82 usd worth of bitcoins I left on one of our local exchangers here, the exchange was not hacked, nothing happened, i just logged in this morning to discover that my bitcoin are no where to be found, I quickly navigated to the withdrawal history section to see if my account have been hacked and the hacker withdrew it, but surprisingly, there was no new withdrawal history except for the ones I've previously made which the last one was about 3 weeks ago, my bitcoins disappeared just like that.

I thought of withdrawing this coin a day before but decided not to bcus I knew I will be using them soon, so to avoid paying a withdrawal fee and in 2 or 3 days time, pay transaction fee to deposit them again, i decided to leave them there, now they are gone and i cant even trace where or how they went out.

I contacted support and they claim they are investigating the issue but whatever the result turns out to be, i dont have any hope of ever seeing my 78.82 usd in bitcoin again, bcus I think they know the worst am gonna do is stop using their exchange and as well discourage people around me from ever using them.

So the point of this message/post is if you value your coins, always keep them in a wallet you have the keys.

Best to provide the name of the exchange you are using since people are so curious about this case and want to avoid the site since you are compromised by using it as you said. But also try to wait for their investigation since there are so many factors possibly happens and the developers can answer you if they are done with it. For now best to wait and also always activate your 2FA,set-up a strong password and don't install any unfamiliar links to avoid being hacked.
3743  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sportsbook - Lamborghini Giveaway! 🚀 🎰 🏀 ⚾ 🏈 🎾 🥊 🎲 on: September 07, 2020, 09:15:50 AM
there is really no foul play, if you do not trust them just continue with stake games however I am also afraid that now that it is so easy for stake to have others games, will they add more games of their own with their beloved provably fair?
This is pretty obvious. 3rd party game additions don't degrade the site in any manner, but they make you lose money faster due to a higher edge and it is difficult to verify how fair they really are which is why they are basically optional.

The core strength of Stake is their in-house games and they will probably continue adding more of these time based on gambler demand. The 3rd party additions don't necessarily mean that they won't add any more in-house games in the future.

This is really simple to think if we don't want those 3rd party addition then don't play there but if we are curious spend a small amount and If people cannot trust them stay on stake since by here we have assurance that it will not scam us since they have a long time reputation that needed to take care of. But provably stake will think about adding more games in future if they will see a huge demands based on users suggestions.
3744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Downfall of dia data (DeFi) on: September 07, 2020, 08:12:59 AM
Don't know what is happening at this moment. Most of defi project lost their value incredibly. Especially for dia data, the recently successful defi token, launched IEO a months ago. Then it was start increasing incredibly, ATH around at $5.13  Sep 02, 2020 (3 days ago) but its only $2.09 today Sep 05, 2020. Just decrease more than half of its value within 48hours when it added binance exchange mainwhile
Isnt these things still surprising? Whenever a project do rose up its price into a unbelievable manner then expect that it would be likely to go down into the same manner.
Just like into those good ICO days where everything is hyping and now we do have this DeFi and it would really be just on the same manner. Project can shoot up its price
and when you do get yourself into a Fomo then expect you would really be ending up on holding a shitty token or project.
This doesnt only imply on DIA but all of DeFi project would go into the same path.

The name has just change but it has the same characteristic so I believe this DeFi thing will be the new ICO and so far this is been newly used by scammers so we shouldn't let ourselves to get hype as you said since they will totally messed up in the long run. And I'm not buying those new things since I'd rather trade the old coins than engaging with those new around.
3745  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is here to stay on: September 06, 2020, 01:53:34 PM
This is a mistake.

For bitcoin is not a currency; it is not money—it is a speculative hedge, an investment, a form of trading, and, quite possibly, the great white whale of finance.

Possibly—but only possibly.

The temptation to talk about bitcoin as the sole product of its inventor’s brilliance has grown during the crypto bubble because, as we know from the history of equity markets and from history as a whole, perception is all. And with a product as new as bitcoin, the halo effect is just enormous.

People talk about bitcoin because they can. After all, even if it has a host of technical limitations and flaws, it is not as boring as the existing consumer-facing products from the payment sector. And bitcoin is not as easy to move money as, say, the ability to convert cash to gold or fiat currency (the dollar, yen, pound, euro). But it’s a hedge, or an investment, or a speculative play, or a currency trading instrument, and those are all ways of getting one to your place of business, or to the point of travel, or to a lender. And, hence, it’s all there in one place, in crypto.

And, especially as I indicated here, it is far easier to talk about bitcoin than to talk about gold, and perhaps even to get people to look at fiat currencies. In that sense, bitcoin is both a new form of money and a solution to the demand for money among an otherwise invisible set of people.

Although bitcoin is a speculative play, I also think its rise tells us something very much larger about how our financial systems work—even if we haven’t come to terms with those larger forces.

Bitcoin is hardly the first effort to create some sort of secure virtual currency that was supposed to replace the US dollar, or a basket of other currencies, or whatever. But here is my problem: I don’t understand how money is supposed to be created. The same people who worry about the lack of transparency in many virtual currencies are of the same people who do not fully understand how accounting works, yet they throw around nearly impossible-to-review theories as if they were all knowable as gospel.

https://www.truepnl.com/

This is unarguably true. Bitcoin is here and will be here forever. Bitcoin is the first digital currency, although many people do not see it as one, and will continue to be adopted.
For now, the adoption of bitcoin might be very slow because a lot of people do not trust a currency they can not hold. I do believe that with time, these people will get to discover the numerous advantages of bitcoin and hence adopt it.
I do believe that bitcoin is here and is here to stay. Nothing, not even bearish trends or scams related to crypto can stop that.


Bitcoin will really stay due to the fact that people are seeing some great opportunities here compare to the other traditional platforms where people can earn low percentage only.

And I'm not surprise with the slow adoption since somehow many bad incident that creates fear to the merchants and new investors to come here as well the educational teaching on mainstream media is so lacking and sometimes they mislead the news about bitcoin so expect that we will encounter a struggle in terms if fast adoption.
3746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: All your entertainment things must have an external limiting feature, agree? on: September 06, 2020, 11:38:38 AM
Limit feature is really a good idea but may not still be the way to control addiction in gambling in fact, it might cause other negative actions like cheating or go to another casino house after the first one which will make you a casino hopper and begin to be addicted to it. Limiting features may probably have advantages like profit will be distributed to casino houses even online casinos for players may hop from one casino to another every time that a player reached their limit time.

Ain't really in favor of this for we should always know in ourselves when to start and when to stop it but probably it is difficult for everyone. But that is the only and effective way for us not to get addicted to gambling

You cannot force the limiting feature in gambling as there are workarounds as you mentioned to bypass those limits. One has to first admit that these limits are beneficial for the gamblers and are in place to avoid big money loses. If gamblers understand this, they will always follow these limits.

Same point as mine. Honestly, it's just a simple logic and self-realization, we don't need this limiting feature if only people know how to limit themselves in the first place, but it's the other way around. So the idea what OP has is somewhat like a theory to lessen gambling addicts. Gambling sites could push this and try it and remove it if it's effect is not good for both of them (players and gambling site itself) simple as that.

What would happen is basically just a trial and error.

I agree since remember gambling is a total business the owners want their players to wager more so that they can earn more profits on their business and I really don't think there's a site will implement this since it could lessen up their potential profits if there's something like this will exist.

And also you are right we are the one who's responsible to control ourselves since if we have discipline we don't need those features and I really think even if that one exist for sure addicted gamblers will find ways to gamble more.
3747  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Let's build Dex? on: September 06, 2020, 10:10:54 AM
Hey guys,

I have been in the crypto space for over 4 years and have helped several crypto exchanges with digital marketing and SEO (I am one of the best in the business).

I am fascinated by the opportunities DeFi brings to the crypto space and at the moment putting together a team with likeminded individuals to build a Dex.

So, if there is anyone who would be interested to build a Dex project, tell me about yourself, and let's see if we can find a way to make it happen?

Might be a long-shot but worth a try  Wink

Let's make it happen  Cool

If your such an expert why are you using a throw away account?

Looking for business partners like this using an alias is a sure sign of a scammer.

I was about to post this but you beat me on this, 4 years and you do not have an old account here where have you been all this time and how did you helped those projects that you are bragging, if you are one of the best in the business then show it, this should be the first to come out, proof before boasting.

I meet several people for the past years doesn't have an account here in bitcointalk but surprisingly they are been in cryptocurrency for quite long years so I think having an account is not necessary since experience is really needed. I'm also looking for the proof regarding on his claims since the word "the best in the business" makes sounds weird since mostly the scammers are using that kind of word to boost theirselves here.
3748  Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit – The original crash game on: September 06, 2020, 09:02:05 AM
Any info on the polish scammer ?

I havent been active in the chat. Could you please elloborate, which scam?

That's just a newbie made the account for trolling. If he have been scammed, he could have made a much detailed post with proper evidences.
No information on how much he lost and how ?


This is not new thing since there are so many people creating new account and posting some negative content just to destroy the reputation of some sites here, but I never believe those one especially if they cannot provide a solid proof on their accusation and also I don't trust those claims came from new accounts created so best for him to provide the important details and people will decide if he's legit or another troll wandering here.
3749  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Problem Gambling in the wake of covid-19 on: September 04, 2020, 11:38:51 PM
Honestly, I doubt people would use that questionnaire.

Based on experience and what I noticed on some, addicted gamblers are close minded, they can't realize they are already in that stage so it's best if they have some people to help them realize like people around them,

Correct addicted gamblers won't listen to any advice since the one they care at the moment is to play and have fun, I sure majority experience this and mostly the addiction stage came when the time we place our first bet, this situation made us bet more since its really exciting and the feeling is different.

And I also doubt people will doubt since there are different types of scenarios on why addicted gamblers stops or managed to control their addiction.


3750  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Misleading headline ng mga media on: September 04, 2020, 01:56:40 PM
Ayan ang problema eh, gusto ng mga Pilipino ng easy money, although binance platform yung pinapakita, iba naman ang may hawak ng pera nila, kung gusto nila kumita ng pera, kailangan talaga na sila mismo ang mag risk sa trading platforms, maexperience ang ups and downs and market graph at mag sell sa presyong gusto nila.


Yun nga eh karamihan sa mga nabibiktima ay yung mga gustong kumita agad ng malaki ng wala silang ginagawa at dapat kung may gumamit sa mga katagang yun lalo na yung nangangako ng easy profit sa kanila eh dapat di na nila tatangkilikin yun. Di naman siguro nagkulang ang mainstream media sa paulit-ulit na balita sa mga ganitong modus at iba pang scam kaya dapat sana natuto ang iba nating kababayan para maiwasan ang ganitong pangyayari.


Ang bilis kasi maniwala mga Pinoy sa ganito tama nga naman may kita sa trading pero yung ipagkatiwala mo hard earned money mo sa ibang tao na hindi mo naman personal na kilala masyadong risky yan kahit nga kamag-anakan mo pa napakahirap den magtiwala ngaun mas mabuti trade at your own para kung matalo man sa trade e wala kang sisihin siguro kaya tumakbo un nasunog sa futures haha.

Dapat inisip nila na kubg kumikita talaga yung trader na yun e bakit pa kailangan nya ng ibang pera na galing sa investor? dun palang malaking red flag na yun.
3751  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's time to destroy China,don't buy anything from them ,don't deal with them on: September 03, 2020, 02:26:08 PM
China is truly the world's factory. They have a large population and a cheap, skilled workforce. Items from China are found almost all over the world and prices are very competitive. We cannot easily change people's consumption habits. Countries need to have local businesses that have good products and compete with Chinese products.
The boycott of Chinese goods cannot be done quickly but requires a lot of effort from the people and the government.
Some government will not proclaim something like these as it will result for a bigger problem but as we need the economy to survive it is announce already that we should support first as much as possible buying products already in our country, what we can all do Is as individuals to support what is locally made.  Support local and buy products from locals. It is helping the economy and our countrymen during these Pandemic.
Exactly, it is impossible to call on people to boycott Chinese goods because it has long-term political and economic consequences. Encouraging people to use domestic goods and supporting businesses are also ways that countries are doing to reduce the share of Chinese goods. South Korea and Japan are two countries that have come up with their domestic promotion.

Also chinese products gives convenience to the people in their daily life so the people would really take a hardtime to boycott any product came from china,  but if the two country you mention will released a massive product the same on what china did for sure it will affect the dominance of china and might people will have an option not to use anything related to China.
3752  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some Influencers Are Not Helping on: September 03, 2020, 12:21:13 PM
I have seen this, especially in social media that some influencers are not really helping people and their viewers. They are just there to promote to encourage more to join them. They exists as promoter so basically , we have to be careful not to become a victim of this kind of people. It's our still responsibility to do some always research before buying some bags of crypto.
Influencer is the most disgusting thing in the internet, they are just narcissist that has no marketable skill and that is why they capitalize on getting followers which make them entitled to things as if they deserve it. In regards to bitcoin influencers, do not listen like a fanatic to every word they say, every thing they say is to market their product or someone's product. Think for yourselves and do not be drowned by going with the flow, remember that only dead fishes go with the flow.

Unfortunately that is the real score between this discussion since I don't see any influencers especially on crypto gives a honest reviews regarding on somethin, they are just aftering the money they can get for marketing some products as you said that they advertise. And it's really better not to listen to them and don't became a fan kid since they will not care nor refund us if we get scam.

And nowadays there are so many scams has been advertise by the influencer and those one doesn't really help in terms of marketing the bitcoin and cryptocurrency since if bad times will came it can create a bad impression to those victims and the one who they talk about their experiences.
3753  Economy / Speculation / Re: sell now or you WILL regret it on: September 03, 2020, 11:30:04 AM
We are moments away from catering below 11k and she's only going to speed up on the way down.
Seriously guys it's time to take profit

Put some reason on why your statement is true since if you are just been afraid since the price dump for a little right now then sell your coins and secure your profit. You cannot convince people by just posting a unjustified comments here since many people still believe that this current dump is normal and we are still on strong side, market still kicking up and there's a chance that we can see some closer outlook from the past ATH.
3754  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best USA based Crypto Sportsbook? on: September 03, 2020, 10:30:08 AM

Most of the books are actually very popular around the world though they are primarily FIAT only and they accept crypto as a payment method. Majority of these sites require KYC initially.

Most of the sportsbook using crypto as primary options on deposit banned USA citizens on their site but there are few of them accept them, I found this site by searching it on google and if anyone would try to bet on the site recommended on the list please take extra precaution since I never tried this only see them via random searching.

Here's the link: https://www.usabetting.com/bitcoin-sportsbooks/
3755  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: How to advertise cryptocurrency exchange platform? on: September 02, 2020, 11:49:10 PM
I would go where my target market is and I think the starting point should be in Estonia it self. Now, if you can find active Crypto currency Meetups in your country, it would go a long way to achieve your goal. There is also a child board under the Market section for Currency exchanges, here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=53.0 where you can post something about your service.  Wink

Will you also broaden your customer base by adding other satellite services in other countries or are you only going to concentrate on your country? (Most exchanges branch out to other countries to maximize their customer base.)  Wink

This will cost a lot of money but actually it is the most effective way to market the exchange aswell they should hire a global ambassadors to help them market globally and visit them one by one to conduct a meet up. It can seriously gain a huge popularity if this method will be done so well and will be backed up with another aggressive promotion.
3756  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: COCK FIGHTING: COVID-19 health protocols violators, caught on: September 02, 2020, 10:58:48 PM
In gambling, it is not completely based on earning money and these people are probably just tired of the quarantine that has been implemented so far and basically everyone needs entertainment. I personally strongly oppose going out of the house during this pandemic because it is still very risky and dangerous, and problems like this are basically about patience and awareness. Not only about violations regarding cockfighting gambling during the pandemic, because there are still many other activities that are desperate to do until they are caught and subject to sanctions or punishment, problems like this have occurred a lot and they are just impatient because they are bored and can't wait.
well, I also see that several large countries have implemented regulations that if they leave the house and carry out activities outside the home during a pandemic like this they will get sanctions and fines, we should be able to imitate how Japan can eradicate this virus quickly because its citizens are obedient against existing regulations so that the spread of covid is quickly over.

Though its good to follow what japan do but unfortunately the other citizens on third world country cannot follow it due to financial reason some other strive to get money for daily living and it became worst when pandemic hit since many cannot work and they cannot provide food for their family that's why even if its risky many will go out just to find money and this is sad reality here.

3757  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏈 NITROGEN SPORTS | NFL Survivor Pools with over 11 BTC* in GTD prizes! 🏈 on: September 02, 2020, 10:07:50 PM
why is there a banner saying that someone things nitrogen sports is a scam?  they've been around forever.  Trustworthy as far as I know.  Am I missing something? or is it just one disgruntled loser?
Most of sites doing good job here on this forum but still few members have issues as they don't like to read Terms and conditions so just because of this they faced problems and create accusations and many times they are right so just because of this we have few negative feedbacks from community to these sites.

Terms and condition is readable and if player got some mistake for misreading that I think they will not get a red trust for that matters, Maybe those issues are bit valid that's why the bad flag still intact so maybe if they want to solve that atleast they should contact the DT member and discuss the issue and improve more.
3758  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Not so far from getting BTC globally accepted! Pornhub now accepts BTC & LTC. ;) on: September 02, 2020, 01:12:15 PM
Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/pornhub-now-accepts-bitcoin-and-litecoin

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Pornhub now accepts Bitcoin (BTC) and Litecoin (LTC) as payment for its premium services. The company has been accepting Verge since 2018, later adding several other cryptocurrencies, but this is its first foray into the major leagues. Pornhub’s vice president Corey Price said in the press release:

“As a leader in adult content with over 130 million visitors per day, Pornhub is excited to now offer two widely-used and leading digital currencies for our users. Our team continues to pave the way for tech development, testing and implementing new technology for everyday consumers far ahead of the mainstream market.”

To continue reading, please visit the link given in the beginning.

I believe this is what we need, perfect timing for BTC to skyrocket like a huuuge ..... You know what I mean  Grin
Anyways, jokes apart, but really, BTC has been holding its values since it was invented and I believe that's the reason why it's a successful story and has also created many many success stories for all the investors (come on, you, me and every guy here would have enjoyed f**king a girl with our BTC some night). (Ironically said that so to support the pornhub news hehe).

Porn industry is one of the silent industries raking in billions of dollars every year without making noise and the reason is because majority of people because of their religious and moral backgrounds do not want to be associated with the industry openly but secretly, they are much more invested which is the reason why the traffic to the sites is more alarming for anyone who is hearing about it for the first time or reading about the documentary on the industry.

I don't know if we can call them silent since we usually taking the volumes down while watching  Grin(Just kidding),  For me I don't think they are silent industry since they already created a noise in business sector due to the profit generated on their site and I believe the government knows their revenue but I don't know on what regulation they do and good thing Btc and LTC is on the option since it could attract the users and maybe the others will follow it.
3759  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Misleading headline ng mga media on: September 02, 2020, 11:47:56 AM
Misleading headline talaga lagi ginagawa ng media napanuod ko ito nung nakaraan at sa mga hindi pa nakakaintindi ng cryptocurrency iba ang magiging pananaw nila nito.
Kaya minsan kahit sa kakilala mo mahirap magexplain kung ano nga ba talaga ang bitcoin. Unang una na nakatatatak agad ay scam yung tipong maginvest at sinasabi agad na malulugi sila. Kulang talaga sila sa edukasyon kung ano ang bitcoin at nakadagdag pa ang media sa bad impression ng crypto.
Sabagay, but hey, you don't have to explain thoroughly naman sa kanila 'yon. Kasi kung may interested talaga sa industry na 'to or sa mga investment thingy, may lalapit at lalapit talaga sa 'yo despite these issues. So, it wasn't meant for everyone rin siguro?

Nope, kailangan talaga ma explain ito sa kanila ng maayos at since nakilagsapalaran sila sa risky investment ay interesado talaga silang kumita at yun lang napunta sila sa masaklap na sitwasyon at sa mga scammer sila nahuhulog. May ibang nag papatuloy may iba naman ang hindi at yung nga tumitigil ay yong nga tao na walang gumagabay at sila yung naglalabas ng statement na scam ang bitcoin dahil naranasan nila ito.
3760  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid 19 shows how weak People are in the it mind on: September 01, 2020, 11:45:57 PM
This is basically what banks want you to do as well. Think about it, you are a bank and you need income, if a lot of people suddenly starts taking out a loan, you are using the money you have to give out loans to people and they will be paying you money back with interest every month, that is income that everyone would love to have.

I mean let's say you have 10 thousand dollars, you give to 10 people with 4 thousand dollars each (banks are allowed to give more loans than the money they have) which means 40 thousand dollars you loaned to people, they will pay about 60 thousand dollars with interest over course of 5 years, wouldn't you consider that a great business?

I would totally go for something like that, being a bank is awesome for the bank while awful for everyone else. Hence, if you do what OP says, you are only making banks happy.
Is he aware on how banks do make business or just totally dumb on making or seeing this as an opportunity? We can take loan from time to time neither we are on a pandemic situation or not yet
these banks will surely offer loans because this is one of the main source of income for them on letting people do borrow and giving out those ridiculous interest rates per annum.
This might be a typical thing but this is much way more better rather than borrowing into someone or people who do have much more bigger interest.
Also, dont take loans just for you to make up some investment.

This situation has been grabbed by the banks and offering some appealing promotion regarding down the interest or other things that can think people to loan some amount.

But I have a personal perspective regarding on taking a loan since I always make sure to use that for investment and that's not necessary or mean that I will put it up on crypto investment since its a risky decision to do, better to use the loaned amount on offline venture and use the remaining on risky matters.
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