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37441  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: May 17th to May 30th diff adjustment thread with promo. Picks open! on: May 17, 2015, 10:34:34 PM
The current pattern of increase is similar to the one after Mar 22 2015 adjustment ... signaling another decent diff increase ... yep, it is more than obvious that new mining hw is still being deployed despite summer and stagnating BTC/USD price.

well avalon has written software for a 80-120gh miner using 5 chips.   it may be very efficient and they may be doing a burn in.  wiki page has info.


here is  a quote

Looks like Canaan are coming out with their new small miner; Avalon4 Mini - 5xA3222
wiki: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon4_mini
resources: http://downloads.canaan-creative.com/software/avalon4_mini/
( This includes a Chrome App )

comes from here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140539.msg11382007#msg11382007

if you go to wiki link

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon4_mini

 and see this  line of code  I think the mini miner will drop to .4 watts per gh

sudo ./cgminer --avalonm-freq 275:250:200 --avalonm-voltage 6250      


the big miner at 420:390:370     volts 7625    does .55 - .57 watts

so with avalon doing something and sfards doing something  I believe we get 3-6%
37442  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 49 blocks solved! on: May 17, 2015, 10:26:06 PM

...

Another effect is also blatantly obvious and that is the effect on the pool's luck.
If a smaller pool has regular bad luck, guess what (yeah I'm sure this level of thinking is beyond your pay grade) that will turn miners away from the pool.


...


I am convinced this also happen to bitminter more then once.  back to back 99.5% blocks a 70% block then  a 97% block

this is when I started asking someone to run a solo pool.  less then a year ago but with my 58 year old memory maybe 13 months ago..

I don't worry about renting pools like nicehash or westhash being used as a middle man as much as I do stealth miners with a proxy attacking pps pools.

Scatter the orders a bit on nice-west hash and odds are you are fine as the risk of renting all from one evil dude lesson quite a bit.

But Ban and f2pool as pps run risks.


At  ckpool solo club members  we have  more then 5.5btc left  but price is high so we are frozen.

order #393756  at westhash 0.89993128 btc left

order #393760 at nicehash  4.62483203 btc left

fixed 5th at least we have action order  #394839  at westhash has  4 hours left (my gift to the club)

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1CqbvmuJcLFDFzFewKmBVAaghXEtByzY9Y


high is still 9,717,111,133.176263



37443  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / May 17th to May 30th diff adjustment thread with promo. Picks closed on: May 17, 2015, 07:09:48 PM
Just opened thread.

same rules as last   picks start at block 300---- and end at block 1000.

No picks honored till block 300.

we are at block 56 for this period  this is block # 356888 18:57
we       started with                              block # 356832 10:27
 that is 8 ½ hours in x 6 = 51 blocks

so 51 = 0%    56 =  9.8%    

bitcoinwisdom has a  5% pick

I am thinking some gear has been built and this will be a big jump adjustment.

Well picks do not start  until 300 so we have 244 to go.

cakir won last week and has been paid.

Remember please wait until block 300.
37444  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BITMAIN AntMiner APW3-12-1600 PSU Series on: May 17, 2015, 06:32:46 PM
Guys not to defend anyone.  Bitmaintech built pretty good

 s-1's
 s-3's
 s-5's

 they don't burn up often.

And while the psu in the photos looks bad on the inside no one  else has done any photos of it unboxed then opened.

Frankly I am not interested in buying one to test it for everyone   because


it is 188 usd to my house
I do not need it.
I know I do not want 18 gauge cables.------------biggest reason is this.


I AM CURIOUS does it do 92-93.8%.
I could hook a lot of lower power gear to it.


But I am only saying  188 shipped to the USA is high price.

I rather 16 gauge cables .
37445  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 49 blocks solved! on: May 17, 2015, 06:11:51 PM
just to clear things..
stealing blocks when renting rigs is not possible.
but blocking minergear to submit high shares to pool is possible,
or blocking rentalsite submitting high share from miner to pool is possible.
this will only gain waste of energy and leaving the possible blocks to other miners.
correct me if im wrong.

Yes you can't steal a block, but that is not what we've mentioned in any of this or at my link.

You can't leave a block to someone else.
You can simply stop a block by not submitting it and no pool can identify that you didn't submit it.

If you are mining at 1,000 difficulty, a 1,000 difficulty share is worth the same as a 10,000,000,000 difficulty share, so stopping high shares is pretty much irrelevant.

talking about the same thing. possible but irrelevant and stupid if done.
only way to measure possible blocking attacks is to compare your bestshare at long period, or pools expected shares when block is found, (ck solo has no expected shares stats and shares does not matter..).
and suchs attacks are really hard to identify, too many variables and the so much missed/called: "can vary greatly depending on your luck.."
Best share isn't relevant at all since it's only a few lines of code to withhold blocks but always submit all shares that are not a block.
... and I know coz I wrote the original small bit of code in cgminer that identified the blocks and reported them in cgminer.

... and I've no idea what that guy from the hash place is going on about.
It is as jonnybravo0311 said above and as I posted in my thread.
Does the hash guy not understand how mining works?

It's simple, if you rent mining power, you must trust the source of the mining power.
There is no way for you to verify if they are withholding blocks from you without a VERY large amount of data.
And just to make it worse, they could easily withhold 3 out of every 4 blocks they find and it would be next to impossible to show they are doing that.
It is a clear and present risk.
Ignore the hash guy further above with the vested interest in this.

Well I have made 1 block with hash rented from nicehash .

I made it on www.mmpool.org

and to say we must trust the company renting hash to us to point to a pool in every case except a pool like f2pool is true.



 the real danger of renting bad hash is not at this pool.

The real danger is sending 1 ph a day in 'bad' rentals to f2pool    if f2pool fails to detect this they payout.

1 ph of dead hash to f2pool would cost them almost 9.4 coins a day

So attacking f2pool with 5 ph of bad hash  form 3 or 4 renting spots  could cost f2pool  a lot of coins.

 close to 50 coins a day.

If any one needs to be on guard it is f2pool.

If I rent 1 ph at 10 btc   paying a  3% fee to do so I get 9.7 btc  rental credit  and f2pool pay me 96% I get back 9.312 coins

 so I lose .688 btc   and I cost f2pool 9.312 btc a day

this is with 1ph of rentals so in 10 days I spend 6.88 btc  and f2pool pays 93.12 btc to me  which is a loss.


So of every pool in the world f2pool could lose more then any one.

I think spending 0.688 btc per day  to cost 9.312 btc in damage per day  to f2pool   might attract some people.


I wouldn't talk about this publicly, because you just gave an idea to anyone to possibly rent SHA256 hashpower via own proxy (that witholds block shares) and send the rest to the pool. It is probably one of the methods how to destroy big PPS pools (with very little input).

   Well while some would say don't give anyone ideas.  This idea has been around here and there my guess is this is why very few PPS pools are around as this risk is there and is very hard to stop.   

A year ago   When the block withholding issues happened with  two large pools.  One was BTCguild I forget the other.  I pushed for good well known people to do solo pools like this one  since a solo pool is good protection from block withholding.   Ck started his up and while I have not hit a block with him I always have a 'real' miner pointed to him.

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje


 When I rent from nice/west hash to mine:
1)  here
2)  kano's pool
3)  f2pool
4)  antpool.

I always do 3 to 4 rentals  to get the total.  It does help with this 'dead' hash issue. I also use 2 workers at the pools.


37446  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 49 blocks solved! on: May 17, 2015, 04:27:43 PM
just to clear things..
stealing blocks when renting rigs is not possible.
but blocking minergear to submit high shares to pool is possible,
or blocking rentalsite submitting high share from miner to pool is possible.
this will only gain waste of energy and leaving the possible blocks to other miners.
correct me if im wrong.

Yes you can't steal a block, but that is not what we've mentioned in any of this or at my link.

You can't leave a block to someone else.
You can simply stop a block by not submitting it and no pool can identify that you didn't submit it.

If you are mining at 1,000 difficulty, a 1,000 difficulty share is worth the same as a 10,000,000,000 difficulty share, so stopping high shares is pretty much irrelevant.

talking about the same thing. possible but irrelevant and stupid if done.
only way to measure possible blocking attacks is to compare your bestshare at long period, or pools expected shares when block is found, (ck solo has no expected shares stats and shares does not matter..).
and suchs attacks are really hard to identify, too many variables and the so much missed/called: "can vary greatly depending on your luck.."
Best share isn't relevant at all since it's only a few lines of code to withhold blocks but always submit all shares that are not a block.
... and I know coz I wrote the original small bit of code in cgminer that identified the blocks and reported them in cgminer.

... and I've no idea what that guy from the hash place is going on about.
It is as jonnybravo0311 said above and as I posted in my thread.
Does the hash guy not understand how mining works?

It's simple, if you rent mining power, you must trust the source of the mining power.
There is no way for you to verify if they are withholding blocks from you without a VERY large amount of data.
And just to make it worse, they could easily withhold 3 out of every 4 blocks they find and it would be next to impossible to show they are doing that.
It is a clear and present risk.
Ignore the hash guy further above with the vested interest in this.

Well I have made 1 block with hash rented from nicehash .

I made it on www.mmpool.org

and to say we must trust the company renting hash to us to point to a pool in every case except a pool like f2pool is true.



 the real danger of renting bad hash is not at this pool.

The real danger is sending 1 ph a day in 'bad' rentals to f2pool    if f2pool fails to detect this they payout.

1 ph of dead hash to f2pool would cost them almost 9.4 coins a day

So attacking f2pool with 5 ph of bad hash  form 3 or 4 renting spots  could cost f2pool  a lot of coins.

 close to 50 coins a day.

If any one needs to be on guard it is f2pool.

If I rent 1 ph at 10 btc   paying a  3% fee to do so I get 9.7 btc  rental credit  and f2pool pay me 96% I get back 9.312 coins

 so I lose .688 btc   and I cost f2pool 9.312 btc a day

this is with 1ph of rentals so in 10 days I spend 6.88 btc  and f2pool pays 93.12 btc to me  which is a loss.


So of every pool in the world f2pool could lose more then any one.

I think spending 0.688 btc per day  to cost 9.312 btc in damage per day  to f2pool   might attract some people.








37447  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: May 3rd to May 14th diff thread. Picks are now closed! on: May 17, 2015, 11:10:58 AM
Fixed it I had a long day yesterday.

 cakir   please put a btc addy up for suchmoon to pay the btc.
37448  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 49 blocks solved! on: May 17, 2015, 10:50:32 AM
we are in hold mode with only the bonus fixed rate hashing

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1CqbvmuJcLFDFzFewKmBVAaghXEtByzY9Y


"bestshare": 9,717,111,133.1762638}


the big orders of 200th and 800th at west and nice hash are in a frozen state


#393676   Standard   Alive   0.0098   0.01458511   ∞   50.00   0   0.0000
#393756   Standard   Alive   0.0098   0.99647398   ∞   200.00   0   0.0000  us at west hash
#394035   Standard   Alive   0.0098   0.48487025   ∞   10.00   0   0.0000



#382338   Standard   Alive   0.0098   0.51807463   ∞   50.00   0   0.0000
#393760   Standard   Alive   0.0098   4.83884262   ∞   800.00   0   0.0000 us  at nicehash
#386619   Standard   Alive   0.0098   0.04788766   ∞   5.00   0   0.0000


we have about 13 hours left
37449  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: May 3rd to May 14th diff thread. Picks are now closed! on: May 17, 2015, 10:41:34 AM
a mad rush  of blocks jumped us to 2.44%

the winner is cakir !


+1.26% to +1.50% -------------------- tlhIlwI
+1.51% to +1.75% -------------------- gallery2000
+1.76% to +2.00% -------------------- tss
+2.01% to +2.25% -------------------- mavericklm   fixed it
+2.26% to +2.50% -------------------- cakir
+2.51% to +2.76% -------------------- alh



Difficulty History

Date   Difficulty   Change   Hash Rate



May 17 2015   48,807,487,245   2.44%   349,377,603 GH/s




May 03 2015   47,643,398,018   0.07%   341,044,727 GH/s
Apr 19 2015   47,610,564,513   -3.71%   340,809,696 GH/s
Apr 05 2015   49,446,390,688   5.84%   353,951,052 GH/s
Mar 22 2015   46,717,549,645   -1.50%   334,417,246 GH/s
Mar 08 2015   47,427,554,951   1.59%   339,499,662 GH/s
Feb 22 2015   46,684,376,317   5.01%   334,179,783 GH/s
Feb 09 2015   44,455,415,962   7.71%   318,224,263 GH/s
Jan 27 2015   41,272,873,895   -6.14%   295,442,739 GH/s
Jan 12 2015   43,971,662,056   8.20%   314,761,417 GH/s
Dec 30 2014   40,640,955,017   3.00%   290,919,288 GH/s
Dec 17 2014   39,457,671,307   -1.37%   282,449,013 GH/s
Dec 02 2014   40,007,470,271   -0.73%   286,384,627 GH/s
Nov 18 2014   40,300,030,328   1.76%   288,478,854 GH/s
Nov 05 2014   39,603,666,252   10.05%   283,494,086 GH/s
Oct 23 2014   35,985,640,265   2.81%   257,595,247 GH/s
Oct 09 2014   35,002,482,026   0.98%   250,557,526 GH/s
Sep 25 2014   34,661,425,924   16.20%   248,116,151 GH/s
Sep 13 2014   29,829,733,124   8.75%   213,529,547 GH/s
Aug 31 2014   27,428,630,902   15.03%   196,341,788 GH/s
Aug 19 2014   23,844,670,039   20.86%   170,686,797 GH/s
Aug 08 2014   19,729,645,941   5.30%   141,230,307 GH/s
Jul 25 2014   18,736,441,558   8.08%   134,120,673 GH/s
Jul 12 2014   17,336,316,979   3.08%   124,098,191 GH/s
Jun 29 2014   16,818,461,371   24.93%   120,391,236 GH/s
Jun 18 2014   13,462,580,115   14.51%   96,368,902 GH/s
Jun 05 2014   11,756,551,917   12.44%   84,156,677 GH/s
May 24 2014   10,455,720,138   18.10%   74,844,960 GH/s
May 12 2014   8,853,416,309   10.66%   63,375,223 GH/s
Apr 29 2014   8,000,872,136   14.64%   57,272,474 GH/s
Apr 17 2014   6,978,842,650   14.04%   49,956,502 GH/s
Apr 05 2014   6,119,726,089   22.23%   43,806,706 GH/s
Mar 24 2014   5,006,860,589   17.80%   35,840,504 GH/s
Mar 13 2014   4,250,217,920   11.39%   30,424,245 GH/s
Feb 28 2014   3,815,723,799   21.92%   27,314,015 GH/s
Feb 17 2014   3,129,573,175   19.39%   22,402,357 GH/s
Feb 05 2014   2,621,404,453   19.49%   18,764,744 GH/s
Jan 24 2014   2,193,847,870   22.59%   15,704,175 GH/s
Jan 13 2014   1,789,546,951   26.16%   12,810,076 GH/s
Jan 02 2014   1,418,481,395   20.12%   10,153,885 GH/s
Dec 21 2013   1,180,923,195   30.01%   8,453,378 GH/s
Dec 10 2013   908,350,862   28.41%   6,502,229 GH/s
Nov 29 2013   707,408,283   16.07%   5,063,826 GH/s
Nov 17 2013   609,482,680   19.29%   4,362,847 GH/s
Nov 05 2013   510,929,738   30.70%   3,657,378 GH/s
Oct 26 2013   390,928,788   46.02%   2,798,377 GH/s
Oct 16 2013   267,731,249   41.45%   1,916,495 GH/s
Oct 06 2013   189,281,249   27.19%   1,354,928 GH/s
Sep 25 2013   148,819,200   32.13%   1,065,289 GH/s
© 2013-2014 Bitcoin
37450  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price movement on: May 17, 2015, 04:10:58 AM
Demand  from investors. Hedge fund people. Miners Etc.

Right now it seems to be not enough demand for the coins.

@Op

How  many do you hold?
How many do you churn?

I typically hold 10 to 20.
I churn 10 coins a week.

37451  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Where can i buy a psu for antmines s4? on: May 17, 2015, 03:48:44 AM
I have an antminer s4 and my psu just stoped working, if anybody knows where i can buy one please let me know, i really aprecciate it. Thanks

First question is what is your power?

 120 volt or 240 volt
37452  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience BM1384 Project Development Discussion on: May 17, 2015, 03:26:00 AM
you can probably build the same with a raspberry pi setup for like 80 bucks or so less but I did read that they recommend the new raspberry pi 1meg version now for such fyi....

The UTXO database on ram almost fills up it whole already, you need more RAM to run a reliable, future-proof node. An APU with 8Gb RAM and 1TB hard disk is cheap and would probably serve this need for years.

we all cope with home mining being dead (or very soon) in our own way.......argh............(so sad) Sad

Unless you move your mining "home" to a certain, cheaper country, where even a 10x price increase of electricity would be still profitable Wink


but my Espanol =  un poco
37453  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BITMAIN AntMiner APW3-12-1600 PSU Series on: May 17, 2015, 02:21:10 AM
  and it is now 155 + 33 = 188   usa

 which really is too high   but if some one gets it and wants to show it on power ratings please do. I am curious to see if it does 92.0% to 93.8%
37454  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 49 blocks solved! on: May 17, 2015, 01:10:38 AM
Good luck to the group, hoping to wake up tomorrow and see you hit a few blocks!

so far zip  http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1CqbvmuJcLFDFzFewKmBVAaghXEtByzY9Y


{"hashrate1m": "252T", "hashrate5m": "347T", "hashrate1hr": "704T", "hashrate1d": "275T", "hashrate7d": "49T", "lastupdate": 1431824966, "workers": 12,

"bestshare": 9,717,111,133.1762638}

And a few are paying over our price so our hash is down a bit.

so I raise us in price to 0.0104  from 0.0100  which is 4%  and higher then we should pay.

Since I did this without asking I added funds on my dime.

see screen shot  and someone raised price upwards to 0.011  which means I amd dropping us down and going defensive.

order number 393760 will stop for a bit  it is nicehash

order numer 393756 will stop for a bit it is westhash

the fixed order 393769 my gift to the club will carry-on it is west hash  a 5th place holder

37455  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: May 3rd to May 14th diff thread. Picks are now closed! on: May 16, 2015, 12:29:01 PM
Yeah, it looks like the folks that picked a decrease are out of luck this time. I am beginning to wonder if this is more than just variance. For some reason it almost feels like something real got added. Nothing real to back that up, just that it seems like this may be a permanent +2% addition, rather than a transient one.

On the upside, I am in the running for a win this time! Smiley

here is my guess avalon has built the mini 4's and is burning some in.

I also think the same of sfards….   If we did not have the very low block count on mom's day we would have done 3 or 4 %

I think we may slide over 2 by sunday.

as for a daily count

https://blockchain.info/blocks


356681 - 356614 =  67 blocks in 12 hours and 10 minutes  which is down   as 12 hours =72 +1 so 73 would be 'normal'

Down six  for this half day.  so that would be about up 24 for the entire 1865 blocks made so far

 so 1865 vs 1841 =  a real time number of  (+1.30%)    with  151 blocks left
37456  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 49 blocks solved! on: May 16, 2015, 12:24:47 PM
I can double post as I am sans signature campaign!


this is a fixed 5th order on west hash so we will always be hashing this is on my dime.

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1CqbvmuJcLFDFzFewKmBVAaghXEtByzY9Y

order 393769 fixed 5th on my dime  westhash---------on me
order 393756 200th  set at 0.0096   westhash-------idle  2 btc - fees


order 393760 800th set at 0.0096    nicehash-------idle  8 btc - fees
37457  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BITMAIN AntMiner APW3-12-1600 PSU Series on: May 16, 2015, 11:56:51 AM
are there no shipping charges on this?

looks that way.  it is small and lite compared to a miner.
37458  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 49 blocks solved! on: May 16, 2015, 11:43:15 AM
I am getting ready to do the 1ph for 24 hour  ckpool-solo-club

I will post more in a bit.


the orders are below I set both at 0.0096

200th at west   1.999 btc after fees as I kicked in a little extra
800th at nice    7.856 btc after fees as I kicked in a little extra

fees are 3 %

    so 2 btc should be 1.94 btc
 and 8 btc should be 7.76 btc

And for fun I will buy a fixed on my dime

37459  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BitcoinMaxProfit.com - 0.30$ per GHS! - Automatic Trade! on: May 16, 2015, 11:32:28 AM
I will keep contract but I am no longer doing any signature deals with anyone.  I will post here once a week to show how your company works.
37460  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BitcoinMaxProfit.com - 0.30$ per GHS! - Automatic Trade! on: May 16, 2015, 02:54:10 AM
Here we go I signed up for a test account and agreed to rent my signature.    I  stopped my signautre

Quickly here is my starter account.

I took the 15$ 50gh account

I paid into this address on the 15th of May.

https://blockchain.info/address/16fSaK1jdcNWoLKSVZ6t2aht989p7CZsV9

https://blockchain.info/tx/578902109beba1bbbf19ae67ffce6160ef9250e9d14ffd6266cdceb9c2e2d58f

I will document how my account is handled on a weekly basis.

Now my cloud mining:

 DZ coop wins and losses made a few bucks
 Cex.io  wins and losses lost a few bucks
 Cloudhashing  bad company lost.
 scrypt.cc lost a few bucks
 Westhash and Nicehash good company I made money and still use them
 BFL lost but they did refund a lot after 15 months time
 GAw-zen-paycoin  They were terrible but I discovered a huge flaw in their company told everyone about it last september I quit them so I actually made money.  But I was not able to convince many people to leave them.



 BitcoinmaxProfit = time will tell


I did some checking I may not stay with this campaign.  I am really tired and it is late.  But I am not comfortable selling my signature to this company. I will post back on this tomorrow.

I no longer have a signature for this company.  I have ended my relationship basically I purchased a small test cloud account so that i could own a product that I rent my signature for and their service  did not activate the account.  For cloud accounts to not be automated is not acceptable to me.
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