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3761  Economy / Economics / Re: Canada joins the dollar dumping team, signs a deal with China to bypass it on: November 10, 2014, 12:48:47 AM
More propaganda. This is a tiny little fraction of Canada's total exports/imports, no real consequence.
3762  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: November 09, 2014, 11:19:24 PM
It's OK, we can end our discussion right here.
That's probably for the best. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
3763  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: November 09, 2014, 09:58:34 PM
OOPS! “Government of the United States” listed on Dun & Bradstreet as a Private Corporation.

Yeah, it is totally idiotic that this government is a for-profit entity, I agree with that!!
So, first off, your source is garbage. I can make a website poorly formatted saying anything I want. That isn't a quality source for information.

Dun and Bradstreet doesn't define an entity as a business or private business, etc. That's a legal definition, and not something Dun and Bradstreet can confer. So, even if your ridiculous source is correct, it really doesn't mean what you want it to mean.

Obviously any entity listed in the business registry is a business.

So, will you admit that the gov is "doing business"?
It's like you can't read
3764  Economy / Economics / Re: Defiatize the unit of value on: November 09, 2014, 06:45:07 PM
What I mean is, you and many others around you should have 10 times more wealth than you have now, because your productivity is enough high to command that amount of wealth. However in current system you are maxed out at your current status, all your extra productivity goes to those bankers and become their asset, they don't work, you work
That's a completely fabricated statistic. How do you expect to be taken seriously when you're clearly making things up?

That's just my experience. I used to work in a large multinational enterprise. In 10 years, I clearly observed that the efficiency has increased at least by 10 to 20 times. However, the average salary of the branch never raised by that much, in fact it barely keep up with the inflation. Where are all those increased productivity gone? Why did not we have 5-10 times increase in salary?

There could be two reasons:

1. Demand has dropped due to market saturation, more production means less profit, so those added capacity will only result in redundancy of work force, not added income

2. Although the money supply also increased many folds, but those money did not reach the consumer to purchase more of our product thus bring us more income, they actually went to a few investors, they use majority of those money to push up the asset price and seldom increased the consumption of the whole society.
You used to work in a vague large multinational? Man, no way, I used to work for a nondescript multinational so you should believe what I am saying! I am also a Nigerian prince!

I doubt your efficiency rose 10 to 20 times. What industry were you involved in, and why was efficiency so poor? And those are the ONLY two possible reasons in your fabricated scenario? Unlikely. That's a fake choice you're trying to force.

So, your income solely depend on where the FED money goes. This is very true because I have seen some of those top executives chasing the FED money, they even call it the top of the food chain. It is amazing that although we have so high productivity today, most of the people are still chasing those money which is simply printed by a few, and they don't even care slaughter each other to get a bigger share.

In one word, as long as banks create money and others chase, most of the people will always fall to the lower end of the food chain and get the least share of those money
OMG! You've seen it with your own make believe eyes! It must be true! You're making all of this up, it's pretty obvious.
3765  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: November 09, 2014, 06:38:36 PM
OOPS! “Government of the United States” listed on Dun & Bradstreet as a Private Corporation.

Yeah, it is totally idiotic that this government is a for-profit entity, I agree with that!!
So, first off, your source is garbage. I can make a website poorly formatted saying anything I want. That isn't a quality source for information.

Dun and Bradstreet doesn't define an entity as a business or private business, etc. That's a legal definition, and not something Dun and Bradstreet can confer. So, even if your ridiculous source is correct, it really doesn't mean what you want it to mean.
3766  Economy / Economics / Re: Econmic Inequality on: November 09, 2014, 04:58:47 AM
It's much worse than the flu, it's a defective heart.  The only way to survive is with a transplant.

Fortunately, Bitcoin is a voluntary monetary system.  Those who feel their needs are being met with the existing fiat monetary system and prefer to continue using it are free to do so.
So our current system, what exactly is wrong with it?
3767  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: November 09, 2014, 04:12:35 AM
Not without bribery (and bribery by every other name).

<3 defending the indefensible.
Yeah, you just made this up out of thin air and decided it's "true".


LOL, denying the existence of corporate-government bribery. Enjoy your spot on my ignore list.
LOL, being so fixed in your beliefs that you can't consider other possibilities. Amazing.
3768  Economy / Economics / Re: Econmic Inequality on: November 09, 2014, 04:10:35 AM
Nope, it's the corrupt politicians and bankers.  It's the monopoly on the ability to create money that is the problem, not capitalism.
Roll Eyes It's this kind of useless logic that works against progress, not for it.

Progress will only occur when people choose to opt out of the current fiat, debt-based monetary system.  Anyone trying to improve society within the current monetary system is just spinning their wheels.
That's like saying you have the flu, but the only way to get better is to replace your heart with a heart that we are unsure will work or not.

Again, completely pointless.
3769  Economy / Economics / Re: Econmic Inequality on: November 09, 2014, 03:37:46 AM
...Can we blame capitalist that hoard as much wealth as possible leaving only a thin slice of the .pie for the average guy to share among themselves?

Nope, it's the corrupt politicians and bankers.  It's the monopoly on the ability to create money that is the problem, not capitalism.
Roll Eyes It's this kind of useless logic that works against progress, not for it.
3770  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: November 08, 2014, 10:44:03 PM
Not without bribery (and bribery by every other name).

<3 defending the indefensible.
Yeah, you just made this up out of thin air and decided it's "true".
3771  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: November 08, 2014, 09:37:24 PM
Yes, everyone, let's ignore that roads used to be funded and constructed by businesses, so you could patronize them without having to change your flat tires.
Yes, everyone, let's ignore the existence of volunteer fire/medic departments, and that you sometimes get billed, in addition to the taxes you already pay, if you use "the government's" public safety employees/contractors.
Yes, everyone, let's ignore the hundreds of trash companies that bill you for trash pickup, if you don't want to pay to drive your waste directly into the dump.
Yes, everyone, let's ignore that the vast majority of infrastructure projects were and are publicly funded.

... after government usurped the liberty and ultimate authority of private entities to fund infrastructure themselves (without corporate-government bribery).

<3 Stockholm syndrome.
So you, or a private company, are no longer allowed to fund infrastructure? Weird. You've completely fabricated that to support a poor argument.

<3 strawmen arguments and misused psychological conditions
3772  Economy / Economics / Re: why do people agree to pay taxes? on: November 08, 2014, 08:45:59 PM
Yes, everyone, let's ignore that roads used to be funded and constructed by businesses, so you could patronize them without having to change your flat tires.
Yes, everyone, let's ignore the existence of volunteer fire/medic departments, and that you sometimes get billed, in addition to the taxes you already pay, if you use "the government's" public safety employees/contractors.
Yes, everyone, let's ignore the hundreds of trash companies that bill you for trash pickup, if you don't want to pay to drive your waste directly into the dump.
Yes, everyone, let's ignore that the vast majority of infrastructure projects were and are publicly funded.
3773  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold is actually overvalued in real terms on: November 08, 2014, 08:14:52 PM
the average person simply cannot afford to accumulate any gold whatsoever. Meanwhile, gold is secretly near an all time high in value, once you take into account the deflation the dollar has experienced.

What in the hell are you talking about?

I was reading along until these little assertions and then you went right off a cliff.
3774  Economy / Economics / Re: Defiatize the unit of value on: November 08, 2014, 05:10:18 PM
What I mean is, you and many others around you should have 10 times more wealth than you have now, because your productivity is enough high to command that amount of wealth. However in current system you are maxed out at your current status, all your extra productivity goes to those bankers and become their asset, they don't work, you work
That's a completely fabricated statistic. How do you expect to be taken seriously when you're clearly making things up?
3775  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Advice needed on: November 08, 2014, 05:04:05 PM
Do NOT put all 10k into Bitcoin.

Find some safe investments and utilize them, and put a portion into Bitcoin.
3776  Economy / Economics / Re: is it possible at all for a bank to be honest on: November 08, 2014, 06:23:02 AM
I think it is even more clear that you have a conspiracy theory rooted so deeply in your beliefs that you can no longer consider alternate theories, which is the opposite of what a skeptic should be. Your useless conspiracy theory is just that; useless.

I do appreciate your opinion, but your opinion will not change the facts.

Face it:

Quote
There's an obvious and legally evident difference between capitalizing the first letter of a proper name as compared to capitalizing every letter used to portray the name.

Don't turn your back on facts. Rather, ask better questions. A hypothesis is NOT useless if it can be tested.
Ok, what is your hypothesis and have you tested it?
3777  Economy / Economics / Re: is it possible at all for a bank to be honest on: November 08, 2014, 05:42:44 AM
I think it is even more clear that you have a conspiracy theory rooted so deeply in your beliefs that you can no longer consider alternate theories, which is the opposite of what a skeptic should be. Your useless conspiracy theory is just that; useless.
3778  Economy / Economics / Re: When money dies on: November 08, 2014, 04:02:05 AM
Yeah btw, money as in paper money is dying a slow painful death, it will take decades but it will die, it's brain dead and on machines now kept alive by banksters and conmen in the governments.
Thanks Nostradamus. Any other vague claims?
3779  Economy / Economics / Re: US National Debt Increased a Trillion Last 12 Months on: November 08, 2014, 04:00:39 AM
Question: What are all of you going to do when the dollar doesn't collapse? Some of you need to give me a date when it will collapse so you can admit you were wrong the entire time.
3780  Economy / Economics / Re: Defiatize the unit of value on: November 08, 2014, 03:57:38 AM

My slavery? Hahahaha my slavery is quite palatable. I have a job I enjoy, a wife I love, a nice home, a dependable vehicle, hobbies I enjoy, and enough of this evil evil money to provide all of these things comfortably. If this is the curse of fiat, I welcome the curse!

That's true, banks bribe you with a good job and a family life and even a home and a nice car, while at the same time they grab hundreds of more asset than you without doing anything, but you don't care, since you are fine. This is the mindset of many people, so you really should not be here

But there are some people who feel the unfairness nature of the current system and want to get their fair share of the wealth
What is this fair share bull****? What is this egalitarian crap? Economic systems are inherently unequal, because we are not equal. People makes choices and win or lose. You aren't entitled to a fair share, you're entitled to the same shot every individual receives. Make your own way instead of asking someone to give it to you.
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