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3761  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Does Electrum actually use the derivation path specified during setup? on: July 31, 2020, 11:28:55 PM
Hardened adrresses still have an extended public key it's just that it's harder (could be impossible) to find a private key given another private key of the wallet and the extended public key.

I think the derivation path is for electrums internal compatibility and probably doesn't mean much but I could be wrong.
3762  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Have BTC, Need LTC on: July 31, 2020, 10:48:18 PM
I got some funds on an exchange I can convert to ltc if you want - I've been thinking of transferring the funds elsewhere anyway so it might sage me the fees...
3763  Economy / Speculation / Re: How Accurate Is The Bitcoin Market Capital? on: July 31, 2020, 10:46:06 PM

But market capitalization is a metric that rarely gets used for something productive, most of the time it's just pointless comparing for this value between different assets. It's especially bad when people compare between different classes, like saying "Bitcoin's marketcap is bigger than PayPal".

It's one of those metrics carried over from shares where I think it's helpful for determining things like pe ratios for stocks..  (especially for working out if something is priced too high).

And a lot of the time people just like to produce as many figures as they can to try to work out how a certain asset could look. Much like big data analysers storing more data then they might ever need to process because the storage space was empty anyway (or something).
3764  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: July 31, 2020, 10:35:14 PM


So like even if you're typing chipmixer.com in TOR it's still considered unsecure?

Yes because they're using let's encrypt to generate the certificate so they don't have to kyc with anyone.

But it also means the attacker can do the same and just push connections through to them via a non ssl protocol (http).
3765  Economy / Economics / Re: my 2019 predictions are now here 2020 my economic analysis on: July 31, 2020, 10:30:15 PM

I'm waiting to see this:

The gold will crash and Bitcoin will be backing Up USA dollars so USA dollar will be tokenized and each USA dollar will be backed by bitcoins.

The Bitcoin was made to be new age gold so Bitcoin never meant to be money!


Its Coming 2020 and yes that will be happening
... though, since your range is the entire year, you still have 5 months left.

You're  just want to see me give up on bitcoin Grin. When that happens I'll either sell for ethereum or litecoin or do a 50/50 split.

Potentially you could argue if the sec rules to back usdc, usdt or make a new coin similar then that'd count but I think that's a while away - but a bill can be passed within months.

3766  Economy / Speculation / Re: How Accurate Is The Bitcoin Market Capital? on: July 31, 2020, 09:05:32 PM
There will only be less than 21 million bitcoins in existence, why try to predict the number?

I'd reckon personally at least 10 million bitcoin should still have keys available,.. Assuming you're excluding all the lost but still potentially findable keys.

The real figure will almost be impossible to quantify.

Edit: a lot of investors probably take the 21 million as straight facts and don't bother looking into lost coins so it ought also be reasonable to use that as the cap in some cases.
3767  Other / Bitcoin Wiki / Re: Reporting a bug about bitcoin wiki (banner) on: July 31, 2020, 08:51:42 PM
Is it the banner with the search box in it? Because I have that one and I can't work out what's different on the other Web pages at the top? They all seem to just have that one banner.

Edit: I am on mobile though.
3768  Economy / Economics / Re: my 2019 predictions are now here 2020 my economic analysis on: July 31, 2020, 08:43:43 PM
I suspect a housing crash globally could occur in 2021 I. Don't imagine it happening before now.

The 2019 call on oil price dropping coupe be impressive tjough. Everyone suspected a stocks and housing crash around this time though (since 2018 its felt like a crash was coming of some sort).

The euro is strong and its economy weakened and I think the UK economy was strong in 2019 (you may have meant 2020 though). At which I think it's bouncing back nicely now (but not sure - the drop came from the nonmain industries as manufacturing still seems quite strong).
3769  Economy / Economics / Re: i was right about the economy ! on: July 31, 2020, 03:50:09 PM

I pray / hope the rich f...ks that made dirty money out of peoples dreams and hopes will lose everything ...


I thought the tradeoff with capitalism is that they never do...? Depending in who you're referring to that is.

3770  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Stable At $11K – Altcoins In Green: The Calm Before The Strorm? on: July 31, 2020, 01:49:00 PM
Some were saying it rose all the way up to $11.450 but not any further than that. Sad
It does look stable at $11,000 and won't dip below this until the next pump up comes with maybe a tweet from a celebrity or another fork happening. Grin

Yeah it's just consolidating and has been for about 36 hours now afaik.

Most speculators are probably waiting for us to drop out of oversold terratory on the rsi and stoch rsi before they have the confidence to invest. Hopefully this'll be a good excuse to test the 10500 support again and get a rejection to the upside but it wouldn't be unhealthy to just make another leg up to 13-14k...

Troll drops may also be likely if someone trys to offload here if its made news somewhere and they've just been holding and forgetting about it.
3771  Economy / Economics / Re: i was right about the economy ! on: July 31, 2020, 01:04:18 PM
Well all the money has to go somewhere and people should've been treating crypto as speculative.

I think I got a notification of a 38% gdp drop for the US which is really huge - I think their economy relies a lot on the people spending a lot more than they do in other countries (such as places in Europe) - because they have to work more.
3772  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020? on: July 31, 2020, 01:37:19 AM
It's a strange warning, it's the first time I've heard of it, how can it happen?
How can you or the person who wants to scam you make this invalid transaction?
when he uses a wallet support RBF, you will get RBF flag error.
How can you send and get this error?

With rbf enabled the network is designed to essentially ignore your last transaction and favour the one with the higher fee (default mempool consensus anyway). The number of inputs and outputs don't have to be the same.

I've done it in the past when making a mistake transferring funds somewhere I didn't want them to end up and used a version of electrum to sign a new transaction while offline (that didn't know of the other transaction) and broadcast it without a problem.
3773  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020? on: July 30, 2020, 05:58:51 PM
It's probably invalid, can you see what address received the funds that were spent again.

The funding address of your transaction doesn't hold any funds. If the others are confirmed then the funds are lost.

Contact who sent you them.
3774  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Q] Can someone guide me on how to buy a copper membership? and the benifits? on: July 30, 2020, 05:51:11 PM
You also get the label and it's a way to support the forum - if you want to.

Once you're a member it gives no perks and if you don't need it for anything instantly then it may not be worthwhile... Since you already have merits.
3775  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020? on: July 30, 2020, 05:32:26 PM
I'd try with viabtc, it used to be on the hour you had to submit to get a transaction accepted.

Unless you can pay a higher fee as a double spend or own an output of the transaction.
3776  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: July 30, 2020, 03:18:28 PM

@jackg:

Quote
No I was talking about the console you get by hitting f12 in most browsers, isn't that still available in tor.

i think thats not really practicable for an normal user to hit f12 to solve an problem.

@jackg:
@hcp:

Not its getting complicated , at least for me and my limited knowledge about how the bitcoin network is working under the surface.

neverthless i'm trying to understand and thanks for guidance.

how could i figure this out, if i get a "new" change address or an old one ? ( i use electrum )

what if i'm not sweeping my imported keys but just sending to my general wallet ? does it hold my privacy level in any way instead sweeping ?

best regards



Yeah it's not within the scope for a normal user, might have been better to say site settings are normally findable from where you can hit the padlock and hit settings or options to delete data.

If you sweep using electrum with the addresses individually then you'll be sending funds individually. If you just import the private keys to a new wallet, you'll have to get a receive address and click each you're trying to spend in turn, right click and press spend from for each... A new return address should be generated each time you send a new transaction but memorising the last 3 characters for example or even the last one shouldn't hurt too much.
3777  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Fee calculation on: July 30, 2020, 02:03:32 PM
What wallets are you looking at using? They'll normally have an inbuilt fee estimation engine in them.

You can't have a few too low to never get confirmed technically but most places drop a transaction after two weeks so you'd have to remake the transaction. Until a transaction is confirmed those funds are still technically in your wallet (but harder to return back to yourself until the 2 weeks are up).
3778  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented on: July 30, 2020, 01:26:49 AM

@jackg:

i think the tor browser blocks all java ( thats also the reason for that the faq site doesn't working properly anymore)

may just a design for the faq site without folded out parts is an better privacy oriented option.  

No I was talking about the console you get by hitting f12 in most browsers, isn't that still available in tor.

I'm not sure on running a js app from a your own machine either in tor - I thought that was allowed as there are no outward connections.
3779  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Can i get wallet.aes.json from Wallet identifer? Lost password on: July 29, 2020, 05:23:32 PM
There seems to be no help from the blockchain.info team.

What did they say, did they just not reply?

They're the only people that can help you if you don't already have a copy...
3780  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is bitcoin a currency or but also a money on: July 29, 2020, 04:04:06 PM

This is a little bit confusing for me. Is money not the same thing as currency again? Would you kindly explain this? On bitcoin, my opinion is that it is an asset and not physical money and that is why people buy and later resell for higher gains.

For simplicity purposes, I'm going to say that money is considered anything that is legal tender by countries...

Money includes fiat cash (issued by the government) but it also includes items such as gold and silver (some gold collections like the britannias are accepted by the UK government as legal tender for example). There's the potential argument that gold and silver are money as most central banks will readily convert it to cash in its face value (or you'll find someone who can fairly easily). But gold is considered to not be splittable which is very much the case (if 0you heat gold up it can lose some purity - you're also paying a high transaction fee).

Currencies on the other than are things that it's possible to break up into smaller pieces easily - like fiat money and Cryptocurrencies.

Fiat coins often have inflation but most things outside of the fiat world are deflationary by nature in the outer money circle.
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