BTER is PINK ... the whole TIPS debacle underscores a history of bad exchange habits BTER are shady sketchy bullshitters and i have MANY stories of their scammy shenanigans !
Pretty sure i still have the emails i sent + TX records and email replies i got back from Tech support from the last time i used them. (while having deposit problems)
I sent coins.. they vanished. Wait days.. nothing !
Email them and ask so uhh what is wrong ? Eventually they reply back "check your account"
This happened 3 or 4 times in a row in a period of a couple weeks roughly. 100% of my deposits disappeared. And each each time as nice as possible i asked them "did i do something wrong ?" or.. Did i use the wrong address ? (knowing i had used the correct address) Not once did they even so much as give 1 hint as to what the problem was. Every single time they would simply say "check your account" NOT GOOD ENOUGH BTER !
I got my shit out of there and never went back. That was simply that LAST batch of bullshit scammy stunts they have pulled on me. They did that before on me too with a different coin and with friends i know at the same exact time then later on IRC i had found out others went through it too. Except when it happened before NONE of us ever did get our coins.. combined total we all lost a LOT of BTC to them they simply stole them outright blatantly then played dumb and ignored us all !
I have said for years now they are as scammy as Cryptsy !
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Cryptsy really sucks.
Cryptsy is one of the best exchanges out there. one of the best exchanges....at failing! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) i think officially DEAD website went to "Maintence be right back soon" now nothing ... poof! ... +Vern is on the run wanted for crimes now ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Yobit moved to code PINK sorry it smells way to fishy else just incompetent to handle the level it has reached
+50% chance of FAIL in next 90 days
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Huh? Did this coin launch finally ?
Huh? i says 2 thought it failed to liftoff back in Dec/Jan .... checks OP ... "Unveiled 12/12/2015 | Launches 17/04/2016 (delayed from 21/01/2016)"
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POS of interest https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435878.0Coin name CryptoClub Ticker CCB algo X11 blocktime 1minute retarget EVERYblock mature after 50blocks PoS Rate 5% annualy got a new thread / community takeover? not sure but i like 5% i like the multiple market placements i like that it is relatively old for POS
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Mega Wallet's last 3 moves https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?uNrjTZYR3F1zHfb3qZhCBQNeZtiRvpEoaD.htmHolds 15Ton 2016-01-08 until 2016-01-13 sends to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?ucVxMWGddgNDr9oysnqc5dU8bZmhpq3xTs.htmHolds 15Ton 2016-01-13 until 2016-04-10 sends to B 'Cryptsy cold wallet' aka bittrex account uWCVvkiyUqXDiQ8nczaoLrWjqScr4jvnnz https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?uWCVvkiyUqXDiQ8nczaoLrWjqScr4jvnnz.htm![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Foi9zGWn.png&t=663&c=DHU1lGaXT_N57w) --- My current understanding. (Amateur not Professional) 1. The Mega Wallet is clearly used to pay client withdraws November 2015-December 2015 2. The Mega Wallet goes into cold hibernation mode Jan. 13 2016 3. In March 2016 someone opens and test withdraws a Bittrex account 4. On April 10 2016 The Mega Wallet is deposited to that Bittrex account Still murky but ThunderJet has The Mega Wallet connected to uRan, which might indicate/implicate Vern to Woolong if you go down that Rabbithole. Vern could still claim 'hacker' ... but if the 'hacker' got all your BTC, LTC, and other cool coins in August 2015, but was kind enough to monitor withdraw requests for UNO and make payment and move the lot to a new set of privkeys every time just like and exchange operator would do, only to decide on April 10, after I guess "Wacker" the hacker felt that the contract to return all those BTC and LTC wasn't sweet enough and he then sent 15000 UNO coins that he had miraculously made look like they here in the control of Cryptsy but where really under his shadow ... ha ha that evil genius Wacker the hacker ... just too dumb to know not to send the whole entire lot all at once ... oppps. sounds a little fishy ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwIjxDox.jpg%3F1&t=663&c=0joDIti1Yin7cQ) You know what I mean Vern?
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Coin abbreviation cLInt
oh now i see U
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https://twitter.com/cryptsy/status/719773151098327040Tweet by Cryptsy reads: "Internet & wallet server physical location has been given to the receivership representative. Bittrex held funds information was also given." I'm so confused. "Bittrex held funds" implies that the recent movements were not meant to be underhanded. Given how brazen they were I would be inclined to believe that if it weren't for the immediate selling of UNO once the transaction got the necessary confirmations. Thats new. The servers are at Digital Ocean. So what. Did he provide the passwords to the servers and coin wallets along with the "server location"? Thats the big question. Giving up the physical location of the servers is hardly cooperation. Lets deprive him of his UNO wallet, and then help put his ass in jail for stealing frozen funds from a court. The UNO community may be the only people who can do this. We can prove that wallet originated at Cryptsy, and then Bittrex can prove that he began to liquidate that wallet. Then we wait. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRH66SLk.png&t=663&c=dKoj-nkxidrQNw) this needs repeated: "stealing frozen funds from a court" = prison in crypto you can: - Steal $millions in LTC, BTC, Doge, Ripple, Dash from your clients and likely get away with it. - Claim a 'hacker' did it, file for bankruptcy, legally CYA, but Karma might still be a mean bitch to deal with. But moving funds explicitly against a court order, that is grand theft, and you never steal from the government because they absolutely loathe competition. URan UHid UFukdup
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https://nxtforum.org/cryptoasset-fund-projects/%28pre-ann%29-coinoindex-com-cryptocurrencies-industial-average/coinmarketcap shows a little bit incorrectly the stats for NXT assets, I will try to contact them to have it fixed The coins are at the Coinoindex.com website 10000000 total supply is just a feature of NXT assets you issue it all at once as for the different funds - yes, it's a viable idea but here the idea was to do some kind of Dow-Jones that is select top capitalization coins. I'm sure soon we'll see more of this, mutual funds investing in crypto are on the way ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) A question about the mechanics of the fund. Almost certainly this basket of coins will outperform bitcoin. But the real value of the coin must be fully reflected from actual coins held, e.g. coins that could be sold to buy back INDEX. http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/coinoindex/ says Available Supply Total Supply 338 INDEX 1,000,000 INDEX Right now INDEX is at 0.85 BTC. If available supply is 338 INDEX then can a person say that the underlying collection contains 338 x 0.85 = 287.3 btc worth of the mix? Or some reasonable percentage of that? Where are these coins? Also Where does the 1 000 000 total supply fit in? And how or what or where is your compensation? As I understand it the coin comes from a respected person and scam issues are unlikely, but there should be a rough prospectus. Developing a group of funds like this with different goals (high growth fund, stable fund, long term fund etc,whatever) has great potential. others https://altcoinspekulant.wordpress.com/2015/12/13/coinoindex-der-indexfonds-etf-fuer-altcoins/(look at Dow Jones for example http://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart) https://nxtforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1046
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To be honest in my opinion ... they will go to auction ... and that is 18 months or more down the road.
First you have the bankruptcy, then the divorce, then if possible a long process of matching database records to rightful owners and the claims process. UNO could be 4 or 5 market cycles from now.
It will likely be a microcosm of the Silk Road saga ... and most of those coins were stock piled well below sub-$200 ... auctioned for +$700 in large lots.
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clue #10 ... wealth storage long game strategy You can set base camp at any of the 5 coins thus given. And you pass the ball to the other 4 corner players. You can store value in which ever coin you're the biggest fan. But the smart suggestion is to use the coin with the least amount of inflation to act as your reserve bullion aka base camp ... that would be the bottom right triangle strategy ... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ... also the center piece in the above super awesome .gifs!
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exhibit A ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxVMtsjc.jpg%3F1&t=663&c=y4fBUM79A41wRg) You could play any of four triangle offenses, the center coin would be the one you hold most confidence (thus most investment) in. **The 5th man is still BTC, you don't pass the ball to him often, but if needed you can. (like I said BTC is not going away) ***Note the lack of channels that connect any of the potential offensive strategies to the Ripple or ETH markets ... there are none ... remember that clue about no vaporware ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ... stick with functional / working / trading(base pair coins) ... ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ... for the ETH fanboy club already in tears ... don't worry there is the outside play option via ETH /doge pairing.
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just downloaded blockchain from genesis about 2 days, not bad given the age of chain ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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It is more public ... meaning you can easily check that they are sitting on deposit ... likely to be checked often given it is posted on the trade books ... cross check on the block chain.
Bittrex/StateofFlorida sign a contract. Nice and air tight.
Still like/prefer some multi-sig and cold storage. Sure to be sure.
Frankly speaking, some or most of those UNO belong to UNO community members, FallingKnife is the de facto Representive of the Community, and the Community did in fact save a certain law firm from a great deal of embarrassment. If anyone deserves to act as the 3rd party, tie breaker, then it would be UNO community with Knife as formal rep holding one of the priv keys.
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prime channels doge/ltc ... whom has that market? mrc/ltc ..... https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_ltc *THIS is the #1 xmr traded pair ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) uno/ltc ..... whom has that market? *because, simply LTC has the most capital, so using as a center post for fluidity is an obvious choice thus; prime channels are the three corners of the LTC triangle offense. **prime channels would be top right triangle in .gif below
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re: CNY http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?mk_type=cny&btc38_trade_coin_name=dogebtc38 is the largest doge market by volume and it is priced in CNY ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8AVHXwA.jpg&t=663&c=D0muqO48aw3RhA) ltc is likely to establish fair volume trade to all major forex markets. xmr obviously is best served to focus on a $usd market first. uno is not looking to great volume driven markets, but will likely be less attached to BTC based evaluation and more tied to $USD evaluation.
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