yeah. i also agree the fact that they should open Local Board for Vietnamese. in fact, Vietnamese is at top among Asian countries based on the traffic.
Vietnam will be the next big country for Crypto. you have my support!
You are yet another shill for MEXC token. In fact, the majority of people posting in their thread seem to be alts just asking the same questions to bump up the thread. Further proof why having a Vietnamese board would be a complete shitshow.
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I am very sorry about that, because of don't have admin reply my post so we need put up the post. We need local board, not thread. Pls for me the time (challenge time), i will help BCT clear all spam, unuseful post. Vietnam will be the best country in crypto industry.
If you can't even be trusted to have a thread why the hell would we give you an entire board to abuse? That would just be exploited even greater. How many reports have you made? People shouldn't be given moderator status just by asking for it and I certainly don't think we should be giving it to random Junior Members who haven't earned it.
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You had your own local thread but it was locked due to constant abuse. 99% of the posts in there were from farmers either copy and pasting irrelevant content or shitposters just spamming post after post and not a single Vietnamese user ever reported it. In fact, most we're happy to participate in it once they realised they could get away with it. It's still even happening in this thread such as these two below who are the same person posting one after the other: yeah I agree, need a local board for Vietnamese because traffic from the famous website are from Vietnamese
The traffic is massive, that why i also agree with this. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I am totally agree because even indonesia is in the local board. Vietnam will potentially be a big country for cryptocurrency. I support this 100% that vietnam must have their own local board. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) And this one likely also belongs: yeah I agree, need a local board for Vietnamese because traffic from the famous website are from Vietnamese
Who all seem to be shills for MEXC token. So that's why you shouldn't have your own section because it will just be abused by shitposters and account farmers and there's currently no one trustable to moderate it.
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Copy and pasting is one of the reasons for a permaban, but people are banned for breaking one of the rules which you can find them all listed here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0People are rarely banned though unless you copy and paste or a serious troll.
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I asked for clarification. Personally I think it shouldn't be tolerated as it's quite clear he's just here to troll by spreading fud. Why is he even here? Is he doing this out of some altruistic motive? Nah. He's just trolling for the fun of it whilst he probably continues to buy bitcoin himself. Pretty sure it's just another account of long-time fudster and serial ban evader NLC anyway.
Do people honestly evade bans just to spread FUD? Do they have nothing better to do with their time? Yes. Some trolls are very determined and that's how they get their kicks so it's not a waste of time for them. NLC has has had hundreds of bot accounts and dozens upon dozens of 'active' troll accounts banned. He's also the reason why newbies can't post images because he was spamming the forum with gay porn jpgs. I really can't tell whether he's made a lot of money from bitcoin or lost a lot (or possibly both), but either way he's just a troll.
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I would support this being restricted to higher level accounts as I agree it is massively abused by scammers. With that being said, users doing so are usually big red flags and immediately set off alarm bells.
They are big flags to everyone EXCEPT the vast majority who buy from them ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) which are 90% newbies who find the scammers via Google search who have no idea on how to read TRUST or more importantly "UNTRUSTED" TRUST which remains hidden. True, but most of them get tagged by people who see this behaviour, though I know from experience even this doesn't always stop idiots from sending them their money. I think locking self-moderation behind copper membership for those below member is a reasonable solution
I had to go surf through about 10-pages of information about the copper membership to figure out if this would be a fair proposal. I've concluded that I have no problem with this, but I would've if the Copper Membership was cheap. It seems like the copper membership was about $40, which is a fair price to pay for something that gives you so many privileges. For example, if it was only $10 for copper membership it would seem too susceptible to abuse. I wouldn't be against it being a perk of paid copper membership but I'd rather it just be earned over time with rank than just bought, because I think most newbies who come here wont want or need to self-mod anyway so some scammers will inevitably likely pay the fee to enable it (though most won't bother).
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Well yeah that should be sufficient proof but you'll have to contact theymos or cyrus to see if they can accept it as they're the only people who can help you in this situation. You're best trying cyrus over theymos but to be honest but I wouldn't hold your breath.
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I guess i miscomprehend the Trust System. I assumed it was a business-only feedback system where two parties converge on a deal then leave each other feedback. If the deal went sour for whatever reason, then negative feedback is left. Opposite is true for positive feedback.
But you've clarified that the Trust System is feedback for any reason. That said, how many users leave positive feedback simply because a forum member is nice, helpful, informative, and seems trustworthy? Seems like the system is still biased. People leave negative feedback for weird beliefs. But when someone has a cool head and solid reasoning, I see no random positive feedback left unless there's a business deal involved.
I stand corrected if you can show me one or two examples where someone left positive feedback without any business transaction or crypto/money exchanged.
No, it's not like ebay's feedback system where only people who have done a deal can leave feedback, but that is a heavily flawed system as well and wouldn't work here. People leave feedback for a whole host of reasons but it gives you some guidance on the page itself: Positive - You trust this person or had a successful trade. Neutral - Comments. Your rating will not affect this person's trust score. Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer. If someone comes here and lists a ponzi or is blatantly trying to scam someone should I have to have done a deal or be scammed by them before I can leave feedback? Nope. You can also leave people feedback for being a helpful member of the community but the feedback system is there as a guide not a definitive this person is trustworthy. You could have hundreds of feedbacks for being helpful or whatever but that doesn't mean you wouldn't scam somebody the first chance you get so people need to read all feedbacks received and make their own mind up about that person before they trade.
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I don't have an opinion on this particular issue (Lauda has many good ratings, but also several that seem too trigger-happy), but I have been getting very annoyed about how centralized the trust system is. The reason that I made it a complicated trust network instead of a centralized list/database is so that it'd be decentralized and subjective. I've been seriously thinking about reopening the idea of enforcing user-defined trust lists via suggestions, etc., deprecating DefaultTrust. Whatever you do people will just complain about it. I don't think I've ever seen a feedback system that really works fairly and is always just abused by scammers. So what do you suggest? Remove the Trust system completely? There needs to be some sort of mutual consensus system so that newbies who come here know whom to listen to - being new and unexperienced. Over time they will gain experience but every new person here needs guidance. True scammers will always lurk here and everyone should be careful themselves - because the Trust is subjective Keep the system we currently have. 99% of people who get tagged with negative feedback deserve it, but of course when it happens to them they kick up a fuss about. I'm all for people disputing any feedback received but anybody who was abusing it would likely be removed from DT pretty fast but this rarely happens. Scammers and unscrupulous people make the most amount of noise once they're busted because you've taken away their source of income. QS has probably been badgering the people who have just excluded Lauda for quite some time until they acquiesced to his demands.
It still bugs me that those people even listen to someone like QS. It only makes them more towards the untrustworthy scale. Someone needs to judge the way they decide (the DT). Simply because QS has/had successful trades with them does not make QS their "Close trusty pal" - and other references against QS suggest something totally different. Anyone can do a few trades or make themselves out to be trustworthy and that's what QS was doing. It wouldn't surprise me if he was just here for the long con from the start but I certainly don't trust him because of his behaviour and due to how he's conducted himself since his fall from grace (which was entirely his own fault due to his fragile ego and pathetic grudges). His level of butthurt borders on mental illness and it's clear he won't stop until he feels like he gets his revenge and comeuppance and this thread is further proof of it. QS and his ego every morning: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F24jpod.jpg&t=665&c=7AHmXdzXICHXFA)
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I'm just one average user here.
Right, but just looking at your post here, your command of the English language seems to be above average. Most users at your level crank out shitposts exclusively, and the reason why they're shitposts is precisely because they don't speak English. So I'm sure if you put just a little thought and effort into your posts, they'd be worth reading. But someone who can't write proper sentences in English won't write anything interesting because 1) the sentence structure will be broken, and 2) they won't have vocabulary sufficient to create an interesting post. I have seen this hundreds, nay thousands(!) of times. And in addition, they're usually too lazy to put any effort into what they're doing. I agree with your sentiment, but I think it'll take some time before the shitposters get discouraged and give up. But I'm patient. So basically, in your opinion, the merit sistem is just a way to grade users english skills. Dude you are a teacher or a crypto enthusiast? Even so, i`v read that there are merit sources in every language subforum but apparently the one in Romanian sub think that there isnt any posts that deserve to be merited. And in this case you cant play the broken language card. No, it's a way to grade quality posts that contribute something and for people just making lazy shitposts will fall by the wayside. Someone who can't speak English very well isn't going to be making great coherent posts and this is the reason why the forum became such a shitshow because it was swarmed by thousands of people who A) Can't speak English very well if at all, and B) Know little to nothing about bitcoin and are only here to earn, and those two factors are a recipe for disaster.
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I don't think we need any more threads by people complaining about the complainers either. All I see is "Oh merit destroys my life" No, it has not destroyed your life. On the other hand, it allows you to be aware that you need to improve the quality of your posts so people can reward them with merit points. No pain no gain.
When you can't speak English very well and you've been earning a fairly decent living here merely by shitposting barely coherent one liners for the past year or so over numerous accounts I'd say that's pretty devastating to them, especially when they got used to this laziness.
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Only theymos and cyrus can restore accounts, but you didn't provide sufficient evidence as addresses staked in profiles can just be changed. You'll have to find an alternate way to prove the account is yours but the speed that accounts get recovered even with verifiable info is very slow if it even happens at all so you're probably sol.
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The trust system is hardly broken just because of one or two ratings. I wouldn't trust someone who has such opinions but I'm not going to leave feedback for it either but the feedback system is there for users who you feel you trust or distrust for whatever reason and that is of course subjective. BadDecker seems more like a troll to me anyway but either way he has some despicable opinions. I've seen many weird trust ratings while bored waiting for the post timer to conclude when I want to post something right after having posted something a second ago.
Some people have negative trust, but the amount of BTC involved is literally 0. And the negative trust message is somewhat odd, something like: "POTENTIAL SCAMMER! ASKS FOR NO COLLATERAL LOAN"
This is odd to me. If he never scammed anyone yet, then why does he get negative trust that reflects oh so poorly on his main profile when posting? That's unfair to the maximum.
If a stranger knocked on your door and asked you for a loan would you give it to them? People often see random users trying to secure a loan over the internet as pretty shady. I would say probably at least 98% of these people would just disappear and never pay the loan back should they get it and that's why they get the negative feedback. You could argue it's unnecessary as probably nobody is going to give them the loan any way but there's a lot of people who think they deserve the feedback as well.
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I don't have an opinion on this particular issue (Lauda has many good ratings, but also several that seem too trigger-happy), but I have been getting very annoyed about how centralized the trust system is. The reason that I made it a complicated trust network instead of a centralized list/database is so that it'd be decentralized and subjective. I've been seriously thinking about reopening the idea of enforcing user-defined trust lists via suggestions, etc., deprecating DefaultTrust. Whatever you do people will just complain about it. I don't think I've ever seen a feedback system that really works fairly and is always just abused by scammers. It never improved in any manner or so during this period and now we have a number of people - who even though people try to defame them, they are actually fighting the scammers, account sellers, ICO shills bumpers and whatnot - they are the ones who get excluded from Trust lists of "so-called" trusted people.
Scammers and unscrupulous people make the most amount of noise once they're busted because you've taken away their source of income. QS has probably been badgering the people who have just excluded Lauda for quite some time until they acquiesced to his demands.
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Banning people from selling accounts would solve this, wouldn't it ? As soon as a thread is started selling accounts, it would be reported and Moderators can then delete it.
I'm not against banning the sale of accounts here but it wouldn't stop their sale elsewhere. I 100% support the ban of sold accounts, however, I don't think staff wants to tackle the extra work or simply cannot because of the lack of man power. What I am proposing in this thread should be easy to implement as long as the existing forum software can do it. It's not that much extra work and is no different than staff trashing the threads of people trying to sell hacked web accounts or people selling merit etc. There's nothing to really dispute as people selling accounts is pretty cut and dry. The community doesn't really tolerate it anyway so I don't see the big controversy in just prohibiting people selling them here in the first place.
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I asked for clarification. Personally I think it shouldn't be tolerated as it's quite clear he's just here to troll by spreading fud. Why is he even here? Is he doing this out of some altruistic motive? Nah. He's just trolling for the fun of it whilst he probably continues to buy bitcoin himself. Pretty sure it's just another account of long-time fudster and serial ban evader NLC anyway.
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There's a hell of a lot of account farming (and hackings) that go on with the Russian users here so it'll be worth looking into where all the merit is going because there's going to be thousands of farmed accounts that can't really get anywhere without the additional merit and that's going to be something they're seeking out en mass to try progress through the ranks. Take this Russian guy who had 200+ accounts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1912475.msg18975980#msg18975980These sort of people aren't just going to abandon their hundreds of accounts so they're going to have to try get merit from somewhere and that's a weak link that will expose a lot of them.
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Who are these "elite staff members" escrow providers you speak of? The only people who are probably escrowing account sales are the shitty desperate escrows who will do anything for their small cut of money in fees, but I haven't really seen anyone openly offering such services (though I don't doubt there are people that do), but if you're to make a case here you need to provide some evidence.
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I have guessed the exact result of the Liverpool today, with these 40 points now I am second in the standings and I have only 40 points from the first place!
You were joint second. Now you're not after my correct score prediction on the Chelsea game last night. I'm now only ten points behind StephenCurry333 for first place. No games this weekend until the 24th. I wonder if anyone outside the top six will end up finishing top five? It's very close at the top but a couple of bad weeks for any of us could cause an upset. I Glad it's working out for you, and glad I'm not the only one enjoying this! It's actually my first time in a betting pool with a community I don't know in real life, and have got to say it's actually a bit more fun than expected. That the prize pool is a lot bigger than when we first started is a bonus, but that's really just thanks to Bitcoin appreciation.
It's good value for a small amount and entertainment all season long. I'm sure next season we will get a lot more interest. Shame bitcoin fell by 50% as the pot took a big hit.
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