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381  Economy / Economics / Re: Do bitcoin millonaires deserve their wealth? on: January 23, 2018, 10:20:03 PM
It is know that bitcoin has made a few millionaires, but many of these people donīt have any particular knowledge of the economy nor business. Do you think that is a fair situation?

They do not cheat to have that wealth they just trust bitcoins too much and theybare just a pure lucky guys that take the risk of investing in bitcoins way back then and now a millionaire because of the huge increase of bitcoins price compared before. They never knew that this day will come no one knew this and those people still take the risk so look at them now. Those people whonare saying that they didn't deserve it those people are just insecured people because they do not get millionaire even if they are engage in bitcoin full of jealousy in their hearts shame of them.
382  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hold or Trade - Which is Better? on: January 23, 2018, 10:05:01 PM
Having seen the massive rise of cryptocurrency prices in the previous year, I have seen that if one gets a coin at the right time and holds it before the prices pumps up, there would be huge gains. But then, the frequent bearish attitudes of the markets also affords one some gains.
Among these two strategies, which is better and which d you recommend?

I go to both of them, if you have some extra money then hold coins that are successful like bitcoins and ethereum or all the other successful altcoins you wanted to invest in. And you can do trading at the same time with those not so much successful coins in that way you can have a double source of income and you will have a future investment as well because if you lose in trading you have a back up thing that can revive you and that is the holdings that you are doing.
383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Your top 3 alt coins to invest in? on: January 23, 2018, 02:01:49 PM
Hello guys, I am curious to know what are all your top 3 alt coins to invest in?

I'll start with mine:

1) NEO

2) Dash

3) Waves



I am gonna go to first the ethereum because they are the top leading altcoins in the market and they will not be considered as the top if they are not so deserving at all. And besides they totally started from the bottom and then within the year they have rises tremendously. And the second one for me is the ripple because they have a lot more volume compared to bitcoins and if they are gonna be supported by many people theubare gonna be much more huge than bitcoins. And the third is the waves because i have waves and i believe in them.
384  Economy / Economics / Re: So, you want to be rich? All of you ? on: January 23, 2018, 12:40:07 PM
Just imagine. If ALL OF US would be rich, that means we would live our lives out from dividends, or any passive income of at least $1k a month. Then it would be jawesome, right ? Well, but then I do have a question.
WHO on this Earth would bake the bread for ALL OF US ?
Robots, you might say?
OK, nice idea.
But then, WHO on Earth would maintenance these robots ?
Another robots ?
I don't think so.
Even if so, even if there would be a Skynet of robots, who would not just bake the bread, but also harvest the grains, transport it, deliver to our doors. What then ?
We could eat for free, as much as you want?
Cool, but what about overweight then.
Doctor? But hey wait, NO ONE on this Earth work, so we have no doctors.
OK, we have Doctor Robots.
Who would teach our kids? Robots! Who would change the diapres? Robot!
Even if humans would master all this, we would need to have all the knowledge to teach our robots to work for us. To be slaves for us. (no minds, just pure robotic hands/arms and so on, Tesla's and autopilots)
But even then, there is one huge problem.
I do not want to touch any country, or race, or group of people, but imagine, if you put infinite amount of resources to any kind of animal (including humans), they would reproduce themselves to infinite. Because they simply can. Because parents do not need to parent their kids anymore, because we have robots! So we would need a limit of reproducing, no right to reproduce as much as you can handle (infinite resources), because we would simple have like 50-100billion people on this planet, and there would be no robots who could grow so much grains to bake bread. (perhaps hyper dense pills could be the away).
So, back to the original question, why do people believe, they all can be rich ?
It was, is, and will be, ALWAYS about that who is going to earn more, not enough, but more than the others.
Why?
If there is only one mansion on the Bahamas, which is large enough, sunny enough, sexy enough, there is no freaking way, ALL OF US could buy it. Just one. 1. One. And if only 10 buyers come with their million, to who would seller sell this mansion to? First ? But second also have million and ALL OF US want to be rich (own that one mansion). So second would have to offer 2 million, right?
Wrong.
No one would want to sell such mansion in the first place, as he is already rich. We all are.

Yes who doesnt want to get rich in a most easiest way as possible and luckily we have the cryptocurrency especially the bitcoins to be exact. We can now be rich by just investing money in this and have a passive income because the bitcoins are volatile so the value of your holdings can either go up or down but lets just always be possitive and it will always goes up. And with the help of this forum also, we can now have a job like in a signature campaign or bounty and we can have a bitcoins as a payment.
385  Economy / Economics / Re: Is time too late on: January 22, 2018, 08:15:18 AM
i just check old posts in Currency exchange and Found how bitcoin was so cheap at 2011

Example

this User ask for 32$ only to sell 2BTC

2.00 BTC for sale - $32 USD (MTGOX PRICE is 16.68)

Only trusted members with reputation!

So are you think time now is too late  or some one in future will say how price was cheap in 2017 like my post


Shear what you think Huh

It is not too late bitcoins is falling again and it is your chance to buy bitcoins in a much cheaper price not as cheaper way back 2011 but it is still muh cheaper compared to last month which is double the price. Just pursue those things you really wanted it is not to late if you really dedicated to those thing that you will do. Bitcoins is still pumping so for me it is not too late. Just look at the people there are still people that getting theirself involve in this thing actually alot of people are.
386  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will bitcoin replace gold? on: January 17, 2018, 10:31:24 PM
Gold in general is no better. The value of gold is nothing more than a result of a global consensus - at the moment everyone agrees to consider gold a measure of value, simply because this measure is in some form or another necessary. If we assume a utopian situation, that tomorrow everyone agrees that gold is not such a measure, then it will be good only for the production of quality wires and trinkets.
The btc is gaining momentum for exactly the same reason - the global consensus towards the btc is constantly being strengthened. In this case, unlike gold, the cue-ball is not only a measure of value, but also a settlement system, and gold is not a competitor for this parameter.

I dont think so, for me no one can ever replace gold because rhey are a nature made so no one can replicate them in this period of time. While bitcoins on the other hand is just an artificial thing and just a man made. They are just agetting up because of the demands of the people but look at them now they are falling so hard in the market and a lot of people now are panic selling their coins which males the bitcpins fall more. So i am expecting that the bitcoins prime will come to an end.
387  Economy / Economics / Re: Where do you spend your money from Bitcoin? on: January 16, 2018, 01:57:44 AM
Today's economy is either rising or falling depending on the consumers and sellers. If you join the Bitcoin, there is a high probability that you will gain something from your money because there are a lot of opportunities here. So my question is, "Where do you usually spend your money that you have gained here in Bitcoin?"

I  my money in almost anything i wanted that i can afford. Because bitcoins here in our country can be withdraw in a bank using an atm machine even without an atm card. Even if there are i think no retailers that are accepting bitcoins as a payment these days i do not knownif there is any but i am sure there is but i do not know them. Even if that is the case, I can use my bitcoins to buy those thing that i need. I used to by a nee phone because of bitcoins and a computer and a motorcycle. That how bitcoins help me.
388  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: January 16, 2018, 01:28:51 AM
So guys, after 2 years of trading i am going to stop. (unless i have full time to trade, which i currently don't)

I have calculated all my trades on the various platforms i have used in the last couple years.

Deposited: 47BTC (roughly)

Withdrew: 40BTC (roughly)

Overall i am happy with the results, i would pay 7 BTC anyday for what i have learned so far.

Now the question is: what the fuck do i do now with my money.

That is your decision so i am respecting it dude. You can always come bacl to trading whenever you wanted to because that is a job that you controls. So if you are contented to those money that you have now and you feel that trading is not your thing anymore then stop it. It is hard to do some things that you do not want to do because job is not meant to be forced it is about your passion. If trading is not your passion anymore then atoo but whenever you needed money again then go trading again.
389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and ETH are Shitcoins on: January 15, 2018, 11:52:44 PM
So bitcoin got extremely high transaction fees, slowdowns, huge risks.
While ETH gets ton of shady ICOs and their most successful dApp is some stupid dancing cat avatar.

Both can be named Shitcoins and Scams, what will they ever be used for other than storages of money which they are good for? This does not justify their current prices, they probably should drop by 50% or more.

Yet WTC just signed China Mobile the worlds largest mobile carrier, as well as many other industry leaders and even exchanges, and will get to $50bn to $100bn market cap soon, yet nobody here even talks about them? Everyone buying BTC and ETH expecting *50 now?

ETH being $100k and Bitcoin being 1m? Lol....

Market really is crazy, a bubble and with tons of dumb money.

I hope for a crash because then WTC will still be worth $100bn.

You just get unlucky with those coins and gets scammed but ut doesn't mean that they are now a shitcoins. They are the two of the most successful coins un the whole world and they will not be labeled that thing if they are just another shitcoins and they will not reach that price if they are just a shitcoins. They have gave a lot of people a money especially bitcoins a lot of people make them a millionaire. Ethereum is rising today from their priice before so those who invest them before are gaining money.
390  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do we really need Bitcoin? on: January 15, 2018, 10:34:39 PM
Recently, more and more I have been interested in the question of why Bitcoin was created. Who created it and for what purposes. After all, clearly there are people who control bitokoyn, well, that is - own a very significant amount Bitkoyn. Maybe it's just a new currency to replace the dollar only in electronic form. Until now, nothing is known about the creators of Bitokin. Why we need crypto-currencies, if on the idea you can use the same transfers of money cherz different banks. What happens if bitcoin collapses? Do not judge me strictly, it's just that these thoughts have visited me more and more often lately.

We dont really need bitcoins but it gives us profits that makes the other people need it. Because everybody wants to gain money so they need bitcoins to fulfill that thing. Bitcoins is the easiest way to gain income. Especially in this forum by just simply joining in a signature campaigns and just posting and ng their campaigns you can gain the money you wanted that makes the people need the bitcoins. And they have the pfreedom to their money no taxes because bitcoins are decentralized.
391  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did you ever convince or encourage someone to invest in Bitcoin? on: January 15, 2018, 10:16:24 PM
Bitcoin has been awesome and will always be awesome. We, who have been involved in Bitcoin since the very early days understand this very well. However, for the laymen, for the people who don't really understand the technical aspects of Bitcoin or those who only watch the mainstream media are skeptic about Bitcoin. Since, all they hear in the News is how Bitcoin can be used for illegal activities and how it offers complete anonymity (common misconception) to people to do what they need on Internet.

Have you ever convinced or encouraged anyone to invest in Bitcoin and did you have success? Of course, since we know that we are giving a good advice, so we would usually advice our own family members or friends about this.

In the past few months, I encouraged some of my friends to invest in Bitcoin. They had a lot of questions about it from technical perspective and I helped them understand. They invested in Bitcoin and are very happy with the returns. And now this information propagates and more people will get involved in Bitcoin.

In my humble opinion, as a Bitcoin enthusiast, we can help understand people the positive aspects of Bitcoin. The price of Bitcoin is still in the very initial stages and those of us who really understand what Bitcoin offers, know that Bitcoin Price is only 1/10th of what it's worth right now.

What are the most common responses you get from laymen about investing in Bitcoin?

Some popular ones I receive are:

1. "Oh, it's already too expensive, I cannot afford to buy it."
2. "The governments don't regulate it, why should I invest in it?"
3. "It's an illegal currency and only cyber criminals use it."
4. "What backs up Bitcoin? For example US Dollar is backed by Trust (all time favorite response Cheesy), but what backs up Bitcoin?"
5. "The market is way too volatile to invest."
6. "You can't really use Bitcoin as a currency."

Yes i have encourage a lot of people to be involved in bitcoins as i am. But some of them refuses to believe me because of the news that are saying that bitcoins are just a scam. Butbthere are people who choose to believe me and now gaining a lot of money just like i am. So to those people who didn't believe me it is your fault not believing in me i just shared those blessing that i have but you choose to decline those. But i cant blame you it is hard to take the risk.
392  Economy / Economics / Re: plan for the future with bitcoin on: January 14, 2018, 01:58:44 AM
now this bitcoin has a lot to use as a place of investment
but I want bitcoin as a front investment who have done it
let's share with me how to invest with bitcoin for the future


Yes because of bitcoins my future are now bright. I have a lot of investment in bitcoins because a lot of people are saying that the bitcoins will reach into $50k in the market and i am hoping for that so i am now starting to save a lot of bitcoins in my wallets. So in case that the bitcoins will rise into $50k in the market i will be a millionaire because of that. I am also sharing this to my friends and relatives that bitcoins are very profitable but some of them choose to refise me rather than join me but that is non of my business.
393  Economy / Economics / Re: Why people scam on: January 08, 2018, 12:38:22 PM
Getting a job is not possible for everyone, not everyone has family or [friends] to help them and sometimes they will make the bad situations even worse them. If you've ever really needed money and were very desperate, than you probably know that people would let you starve to death rather than give you $5.

It's weird how people won't toss out just a few dollars to help someone in need, yet they'll spend $10000 or more on their pet that has an average life span of under 5 years.

But then again, if you give the person in need money, they'll keep coming back for it. It's a real crap shoot

People get scammed because of their wrong decisions. Bitcoins is not a scam if you will just simply buy it and hold it into your wallet but when it comes to the point that you will invest your bitcoins into an icos that is the time you can be a victim of a scam because not all icos are legit some are just a scam that will collect all of the peoples money. So my advice if joining a signature campaign you much check all those things a promising icos have. And do not be too greedy because that is the one that pushes you to your grave.
394  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in 2018 on: December 29, 2017, 03:57:36 AM
The journey of bitcoin from 2009 to 2017 is very interesting. Although the stories of individuals(investors) are very interesting and motivational that how they initiated and what problems they faced at earlier stages.

In 2017 the number of businesses accepting bitcoin continues to increase. Where you see the bitcoin in 2018?

I think bitcoins will be back on track after this year because they have a rough December now they are slowly falling and getting hard to regain their price after reaching $20k in the market but a lot of people especially experts in bitcoins are saying that the bitcoins will reach $50k after this fall and a lot of people are looking forward to it that is why even if bitcoins are falling in the market they are still holding to it and staying calm. That is the right thing to do because bitcoins is indeed gonna be that high in the next years just continue to support it .
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Invest now or wait? on: December 26, 2017, 02:04:21 PM

I missed the dip the other day and am wondering if I should hold out for another dip or if the current prices are still decent. Mainly looking at litecoin and etherum. I also need coins regardless so I can exchange for other altcoins.

Invest in what? There are a lot of successful altcoins that are sprouting you should invest today with them and start gaining money before it is too late. I am thinking that in the year 2018 bitcoins is not the successful cryptocurrency anymore but rather altcoins will start to make names because the people who have guts to invest in altcoins are increasing so they are gonna increase too. Just take the risk if you are feeling it then invest in it hust make sure that you donnot stick on one because if it fails you're done.
396  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A friend sent me .03 BTC - what to do now? on: December 23, 2017, 06:27:43 AM
So long story short, a friend owed me for a favor and since I did not have bitcoin before he asked If I would take it in BTC. I didn't mind since I can cash out whenever.
My question is.. what do you think? Its a decent chunk of money for me to just hope something keeps rising, do you think I should "let it ride" or cash out and just be happy with ~$500?

That is pretty much small for me but as a gift that was given to you that is a lot of money and if you needed a money you should cash it all our because you needed it but if you have some stable financial situation i advice you to just hold it for a while because are gonna get a lot more money in that.  Because we all know that the value of bitcoins are getting larger and larger butbthe decision is always on you and you should start to earn more to not waste the opportunity that are happening to you.
397  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to overcome the fear of holding? on: December 22, 2017, 06:52:03 AM
I've always been one who sells to earlier, either to minimize my losses or to realize my earnings ASAP and leave. I've seen in most of my investments, if not all that if I would've just left the coins there they would've been worth 10-50x what I put in before. This is upsetting as a person and trader, as I see how much money I'm missing out on.

How do you traders do it, hold and hold and hold. Waiting around for more and more money?

It is up to you how will you overcome your fear but me i was also scared before in losing money in this thing we always lose money we need to remember before we will pursue this thing we need to know that we can always lose money any moment and we should not be afraid with that because we can always win back our money it is up to us how we gonna win that back we just need to have a lot of source of income and do not stick in only one source of income.
398  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ? on: December 22, 2017, 04:52:23 AM
Savings in banks Deposits in banks Property investments, such as buying property (land and buildings) are then leased or resold after some time later. Gold investment, such as buying gold and then stored for the long term. May be useful in the long run. and produce a decent and satisfactory. or farming to buy sawan and gardening and planting fruits and vegetables is a very good investment. Although a little vulnerable to failure but it could not hurt to try.

Yes bitcoins is a great way to invest our money knowing that the bitcoins are volatile which means their value are not stable, yes it is risky too but lets just not think in the negative part. It is also good at buy and sell process just buy bitcoins if the price are down in the market then when it rises just simply sell it so you are gonna gain a much profits because you biy it in a lower price them sell it in a higher one. And a lot of people became a millionaire by just simply investing in these before and that is a great living proof.
399  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Saving Bitcoins for your Children. on: December 19, 2017, 08:06:34 AM
Like every other investment such as real estate, stocks and other forms of investment we know that you can invest in that kind of things and then you get something like say a Certificate or a Binding Document as a proof that you are part of that investment, now that of bitcoin all you have is just your address, your password, key and seeds as proof of the ownership of the wallet.

BTC

So now if one is considering buying bitcoins and saving for his/her children in the future is there any way to do that with bitcoins apart from having to write down your details somewhere. I'm asking because with that kind of stuff if no one knows your seeds or password no one can get the coins. Huh Huh Huh

I am just a teen ager a student and i have no plans of having any children for this moment of time but saving bitcoins for your childrens will be a great thing because you are thinking for the bright future for your kids and saving bitcoins is a great thing because the value of tour holdings can be worth up to million dollars if ever. But i do not think that i will do that yet because i am gonna save for my self first since i had no children. But i think my children will never gonna get in time that bitcoins is still successful i think there will be a new thing.
400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is it safe to participate in ICO's? on: December 19, 2017, 02:42:12 AM
Right now there are many ICOs coming out, is it really safe to participate in any of it and spend that much? In participating ICOs I have high hopes that these coins could be the next Bitcoin or other currencies that are really going up in the market.

It is safe if you have come to participate into some successful and legit icos because there are some icos out there that are just a scam and some others are fail that is why the image of an icos now are not that good because those past incidents that a lot of people losing money because of investing in some icos that are just a fail. It is hard for them because they have earn it foe a long period of time then they just want to increase their money so that they invested it in some icos but the result  they just get scammed.
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