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381  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Classic = a bunch of idiots running the full node on: January 21, 2016, 11:39:10 AM

Oh noes, wallet providers might force us to use cheaper transactions !!!  Cry

Cheesy:D:D


Your been deceived by Bitcoin Core, the transactions have the same size in bytes stored on blockchain for full nodes, so Segregated Withness transactions might be cheaper only because Bitcoin Core says lets not count the signature size part for fee calculation for Segregated Withness transactions, but the signature size part using the same bandwich and storage capacity of full nodes in both cases.

Its basically political decision policy to make Segregated Withness transactions more popular with miners paying the cost with reduced fees for these Segregated Withness transactions yet they have to use the same bandwich and storage capacity requirements compared to today transactions.

I wish I could return to my young times when I was clueless too though, the life was much easier back then!

All you clasSick posters here on bitcointalk are really kind of like a rat infestation - Hard to control but do-able.
382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2016, 11:26:39 PM
Goodbye ClasSickCoin and good riddance. Oh and btw, say hi to XT!  Grin
383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 20, 2016, 12:11:36 PM
It's the same faggots dribbling the same nonsense in this thread.

some Juan Juan faggot, some billyjean faggot, i can't even remember your stupid names.

I can't even be bothered ignoring you retards, I just scroll down past whatever you idiots say.

Why don't you faggots get a hobby or something, you're the kings of the special olympics, absolute fucking retards.

Sell your coins or don't i dont give a fuck, i'll be the one having the last laugh when Bitcoin goes through the roof.

wtf that's too funny!

U forgot "Cunt" Chocula dude?!
384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "Bitcoin Classic" NOT a classic attempt at a hostile takeover, apparently. on: January 20, 2016, 12:49:35 AM
What is this new alt ClassicCoin? Is it just more junk?  Grin
385  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ToominCoin aka "Bitcoin_Classic" #R3KT on: January 19, 2016, 12:50:17 AM

My god I just saw for the first time that retarded voting idea they made for the inclusion or exclusion of features for the Bitcoin protocol.

Classic will have the honor of being the first coin designed by Sybil attack!   Cheesy

Now that's classick!
386  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is satoshi POLL on: January 18, 2016, 10:14:56 PM
Satoshi is Neal King, Vladimir Oks­man, and Charles Bry without a doubt.
387  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When push comes to shove. How many % of the hash power will run "classic"? on: January 17, 2016, 10:27:38 PM
I think a better name for classiccoin would be DOAcoin.
388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Blockstream/Core: Support of DDOS Attacks on Classic on: January 17, 2016, 10:00:29 PM

But yes, people are really saying stuff like "Hearn is a Bankster Shill"
... so deluded.

OK... Admittedly occassionally guilty.  I DO think that XT was an idiotic and uncontrolled mess, and I do think that the only group that would have stood to gain the most off of it were the huge banks.  All this talk of stuffing the blocks with Ledger info etc...  But I am NOT necessarily against that.... I am just against extremes.  Mike represented the extreme to me.  Blockstream/Core represents the opposite extreme.   Interestingly, I see BOTH of those paths as leading to Centralization and Loss of Privacy.  Hearns path I saw giving it to the existing Fiat (even if unintentionally).  Blockstream/Core I see giving it to a "New Breed of Fiat" - the tech giants.  I can see Google, Apple, Facebook and handful of other companies running everything through App based Private Chains - and slowly but surely squeezing out the smaller chains.

I like Classic because it allows a slow, methodical growth curve.  I just feel like allowing everyone to fight it out equally and fairly will result in a better long term system of checks and balances.  Do I still think Fiat Banks or Fiat Fintech will abuse.  Yes.  It will always be there.

But my biggest beef is that Mike is associated with Classic at all by name/reputation in this current scenario.   I think he is a genius, blah blah blah, but I DO think he is a bit biased towards the wishes of his current paycheck providers, just like Blockstream/Core is with their paymasters/funders.

And yes, I think Mike went a bit unnecessarily whiny at the end, and my guess is that once he's cooled off he may (at least privately) be embarrassed by his behavior.  I actually WISH he'd just quietly backed Classic and been done with it.

But honestly he is irrelevant to Bitcoin at present in my opinion.  Deesn't mean he (or members of Blockstream/Core) can't/won't be enormous contributors down the road..... but damnit we need to get this Fork underway and done.

Wow. Is this still you? This post actually looks and sounds sane.

I almost don't recognize it without the caps/bold/large font,etc...
Guess it depends on who is clocked in  Grin

Good one!  Cool
389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Blockstream/Core: Support of DDOS Attacks on Classic on: January 17, 2016, 09:34:28 PM

But yes, people are really saying stuff like "Hearn is a Bankster Shill"
... so deluded.

OK... Admittedly occassionally guilty.  I DO think that XT was an idiotic and uncontrolled mess, and I do think that the only group that would have stood to gain the most off of it were the huge banks.  All this talk of stuffing the blocks with Ledger info etc...  But I am NOT necessarily against that.... I am just against extremes.  Mike represented the extreme to me.  Blockstream/Core represents the opposite extreme.   Interestingly, I see BOTH of those paths as leading to Centralization and Loss of Privacy.  Hearns path I saw giving it to the existing Fiat (even if unintentionally).  Blockstream/Core I see giving it to a "New Breed of Fiat" - the tech giants.  I can see Google, Apple, Facebook and handful of other companies running everything through App based Private Chains - and slowly but surely squeezing out the smaller chains.

I like Classic because it allows a slow, methodical growth curve.  I just feel like allowing everyone to fight it out equally and fairly will result in a better long term system of checks and balances.  Do I still think Fiat Banks or Fiat Fintech will abuse.  Yes.  It will always be there.

But my biggest beef is that Mike is associated with Classic at all by name/reputation in this current scenario.   I think he is a genius, blah blah blah, but I DO think he is a bit biased towards the wishes of his current paycheck providers, just like Blockstream/Core is with their paymasters/funders.

And yes, I think Mike went a bit unnecessarily whiny at the end, and my guess is that once he's cooled off he may (at least privately) be embarrassed by his behavior.  I actually WISH he'd just quietly backed Classic and been done with it.

But honestly he is irrelevant to Bitcoin at present in my opinion.  Deesn't mean he (or members of Blockstream/Core) can't/won't be enormous contributors down the road..... but damnit we need to get this Fork underway and done.

Wow. Is this still you? This post actually looks and sounds sane.

I almost don't recognize it without the caps/bold/large font,etc...
390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2016, 06:07:50 AM
so now all the usual suspect XTrolls have become Classic trolls?  Roll Eyes

endless FUD, these useful idiots are getting led around like around stupid, docile beasts and they actually think they are doing the best by Bitcoin ... looks like another beating is needed for them to figure out who really has their best interests covered.

https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic/pull/6

bitcoinclassic
kindof a joke...

I look forward to blocksize incress i have debated the issues for  years now! i'v been on both sides of the debate ...  cant wait!

wtf is this bitcoinclassicy thing?

lol wtv

I think they were going for the Coca-Cola Classic sounding thing.

Only Coke Classic was the Real Thing, whereas bitcoin classic is just a sad joke thing.
391  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "Bitcoin is Dead" - Mike Hearn on: January 17, 2016, 05:23:32 AM
bitcoin classic is about as useful as a bag of dirt  Grin
392  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: POLL: How will member keepdoing be remembered? on: January 17, 2016, 02:25:20 AM
There are 2 possibilities with people like this:

1) He is uninformed, and legitimately thinks Bitcoin Classiccoin is betterment of Bitcoin.
2) He is a paid shill.

I think this level of dedication in his shitposting efforts point to option 2.

I agree.

At least this poll is complete, though, with option 1 which is currently trailing. Grin
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL: How will Blockstream/Core Be Remembered? on: January 17, 2016, 02:22:12 AM
Your poll is based upon the delusional false premise of Classiccoin fork being a success. Also it implies that Bitcoin will ever scale to global levels without Lightning Network which is impossible (without datacenters as nodes which is the death of Bitcoin). You need a lot of reading to do before you want to play.
Actually, I am but a simple and humble mathematician.  Approximately 75% of Miners supporting Classic = CLASSIC!  Yayyyy!

www.BitcoinClassic.com <Come Ride the Wave Higher With US!

So just because theorically around 75% of the miners support Bitcoin Classic you say that it is the best thing ever ? Also, can you prove that there is 75% of the miners that support it ? I don't think so.



Unfortunately, there's a poll choice missing:

E) The R3 classic altcoin follows XT out the door.

That's a possibilty, but with all the big players following it, it may not be the case. By the way, why are you saying "The R3 classic altcoin" instead of Bitcoin Classic. I can understand the term of altcoin, but why R3 ? I've seen it a few times before but I never undertsood his usage. Can you enlight me please ? Also, he'll never add such an option. You can't be more pro-Bitcoin Classic than him.

Mike Hearn now (or maybe always did) works for/with R3, a big bank consortium that would like to see bitcoin crumble. "classic" is likely their latest attempt to do this. They will keep trying.

So why a consortium that wants to kill Bitcoin would have created a fork dedicated to the profit ? I don't see their interest to fork Bitcoin if their aim is to destroy it.

The hard fork itself could destroy it.

So you mean that a big part of the Bitcoin companies, biggest pools and developpers are just dumb ? Why would they support something that will kill all their profit ? Also, if the 75% majority wants Bitcoin Classic, won't it be a softfork ?



Mike Hearn now (or maybe always did) works for/with R3, a big bank consortium that would like to see bitcoin crumble. "classic" is likely their latest attempt to do this. They will keep trying.

INCOMING!  INCOMING!  ....................SPLAAAAAAAT!

eewwwwwww, that FUD is ugly!  Yucky, smelly FUD.  icky!

Until you'll be able to publicly prove why Bitcoin Classic is a good thing for users, not for big companies, the only one who will be spreading nonsense will be you !

Any fork could pose a problem for bitcoin.
394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL: How will Blockstream/Core Be Remembered? on: January 17, 2016, 02:18:23 AM
Mike Hearn now (or maybe always did) works for/with R3, a big bank consortium that would like to see bitcoin crumble. "classic" is likely their latest attempt to do this. They will keep trying.

INCOMING!  INCOMING!  ....................SPLAAAAAAAT!

eewwwwwww, that FUD is ugly!  Yucky, smelly FUD.  icky!

Whatever. I think classic is the real FUD, though. There are many people that do not want bitcoin to succeed. They disguise themselves and are good at infiltration. They want to crack bitcoin before the halving. They are everywhere and often where you least expect them.
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL: How will Blockstream/Core Be Remembered? on: January 17, 2016, 02:11:26 AM
Your poll is based upon the delusional false premise of Classiccoin fork being a success. Also it implies that Bitcoin will ever scale to global levels without Lightning Network which is impossible (without datacenters as nodes which is the death of Bitcoin). You need a lot of reading to do before you want to play.
Actually, I am but a simple and humble mathematician.  Approximately 75% of Miners supporting Classic = CLASSIC!  Yayyyy!

www.BitcoinClassic.com <Come Ride the Wave Higher With US!

So just because theorically around 75% of the miners support Bitcoin Classic you say that it is the best thing ever ? Also, can you prove that there is 75% of the miners that support it ? I don't think so.



Unfortunately, there's a poll choice missing:

E) The R3 classic altcoin follows XT out the door.

That's a possibilty, but with all the big players following it, it may not be the case. By the way, why are you saying "The R3 classic altcoin" instead of Bitcoin Classic. I can understand the term of altcoin, but why R3 ? I've seen it a few times before but I never undertsood his usage. Can you enlight me please ? Also, he'll never add such an option. You can't be more pro-Bitcoin Classic than him.

Mike Hearn now (or maybe always did) works for/with R3, a big bank consortium that would like to see bitcoin crumble. "classic" is likely their latest attempt to do this. They will keep trying.

So why a consortium that wants to kill Bitcoin would have created a fork dedicated to the profit ? I don't see their interest to fork Bitcoin if their aim is to destroy it.

The hard fork itself could destroy it.
396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL: How will Blockstream/Core Be Remembered? on: January 17, 2016, 02:08:26 AM
Your poll is based upon the delusional false premise of Classiccoin fork being a success. Also it implies that Bitcoin will ever scale to global levels without Lightning Network which is impossible (without datacenters as nodes which is the death of Bitcoin). You need a lot of reading to do before you want to play.
Actually, I am but a simple and humble mathematician.  Approximately 75% of Miners supporting Classic = CLASSIC!  Yayyyy!

www.BitcoinClassic.com <Come Ride the Wave Higher With US!

Actually. not true. The term used by at least one miner pool was "welcome" not "support". Different.

As soon as miners understand this "classic" thing is not viable(soon), they'll switch to a real bitcoin pool(Core).
397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL: How will Blockstream/Core Be Remembered? on: January 17, 2016, 02:01:54 AM
Unfortunately, there's a poll choice missing:

E) The R3 classic altcoin follows XT out the door.

That's a possibilty, but with all the big players following it, it may not be the case. By the way, why are you saying "The R3 classic altcoin" instead of Bitcoin Classic. I can understand the term of altcoin, but why R3 ? I've seen it a few times before but I never undertsood his usage. Can you enlight me please ? Also, he'll never add such an option. You can't be more pro-Bitcoin Classic than him.

Mike Hearn now (or maybe always did) works for/with R3, a big bank consortium that would like to see bitcoin crumble. "classic" is likely their latest attempt to do this. They will keep trying.
398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: POLL: How will Blockstream/Core Be Remembered? on: January 17, 2016, 01:40:29 AM
Unfortunately, there's a poll choice missing:

E) The R3 classic altcoin follows XT out the door.
399  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What Bitcoin client are you going to be using? on: January 16, 2016, 09:59:34 PM
These new implementations are part of a plot to dilute, weaken and ultimately destroy bitcoin and are brought to you by TPTB.

Core is the only bitcoin and the only choice.
400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 16, 2016, 08:53:13 PM
Bitcoin "Classic"! What a stupid name. Logically there's nothing really classic about it. They should have spent a little more time thinking up a proper name at least.

Seems that Satoshi disagrees with you: https://github.com/bitcoin-classic

I'm afraid that Classic has nothing to do whatsoever with this "classic", so no he doesn't disagree with me.
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