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381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: WinMiner v1.86a - auto switch windows app for multi miner optimization on: November 02, 2017, 11:48:46 PM
I like a lot winminer, but I would like it even more if there were an option to not convert the coins mined and withdraw them as they are, especially in periods like this when they are so cheap.
382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 02, 2017, 11:25:24 PM
you guys really think that this will go on forever? What when the whole US population has a wallet on Coinbase? IMO what is happening is just because almost no alts can be bought for fiat, so bitcoin is a forced step both to get in and out of alts. That's why it's pumping for the double effect of fiat inflow and alt dumping.

At some point some alts might well get traction. Just a matter of time.
383  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Fisco / Tasse / Legge sul Bitcoin on: November 02, 2017, 10:40:47 PM
forse si è già commentato questo ma non ricordo le conclusioni (vale?):

http://www.agenziaentrate.gov.it/wps/file/nsilib/nsi/documentazione/normativa+e+prassi/risoluzioni/archivio+risoluzioni/risoluzioni+2016/settembre+2016+risoluzioni/risoluzione+n.+72+del+02+settembre+2016/RISOLUZIONE+N.+72+DEL+02+SETTEMBRE+2016E.pdf

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Per quanto riguarda, la tassazione ai fini delle imposte sul reddito dei
clienti della Società, persone fisiche che detengono i bitcoin al di fuori
dell’attività d’impresa, si ricorda che le operazioni a pronti (acquisti e vendite) di
valuta non generano redditi imponibili mancando la finalità speculativa
384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 01, 2017, 04:07:56 PM
Now that they rekt the shorts by conjuring tens of millions of tethers out of thin air they might as well screw the longs as a next step.

385  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2017, 09:18:32 PM
train is pulling out of the station. Up we go.

386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin GOLD - A well thought Scam? on: October 31, 2017, 12:21:48 PM
All these forks are crap IMO.

But greedy guys will keep forking BTC untill they either kill it or everyone will finally stop hunting free crap

Up to now the more they fork and the more BTC price rises.
And I can make some use of my free forked altcoins. Things may get interesting in a bad sense with the next hostile fork with no replay protection, right after which I expect some correction in BTC price and a new pumping in alts.

https://bashco.github.io/2x_Countdown/
387  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there any way to destroy the bitcoin? on: October 31, 2017, 07:25:05 AM
Is there any way to destroy the bitcoin?  Not to hack or fake it but completely destroy the system.

Now they're trying with this:

ICYMI: Another attack on bitcoin coming from Congress (bill would ban "aggregated transactions," attempts to make "concealment" of data a crime, proposes freezing bank accounts, and would require individual users of "digital currencies" to be regulated to the same level as banks)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/79oq0j/icymi_another_attack_on_bitcoin_coming_from/
388  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2017, 11:19:12 PM
muh corREKTion has arrived, finally.  Tongue

389  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 29, 2017, 12:28:59 PM
I did not know luke was so influent there  Grin

How the fuck does a guy go from proposing smaller block sizes, to throwing his support behind BCH ?

It boggles the fucking mind. I can't be sure the man is entirely sane.

Clowns and sellouts everywhere.
Those 100 billions of marketcap look ever more theoretical.
390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 28, 2017, 11:05:38 PM
What -- exactly -- do you find _unfair_ about the current situation? Some had the foresight, drive, business acumen, and such to actually get into the business of making ASICs. Others used similar resources to build datacenters full of miners. These avenues are still open today for anyone suitably talented and driven. It is perfectly fair.

Who cares about fairness? The problem is that with ASICs it's too easy to quasi-monopolize the mining scene, and what is worse is that either some major players in the scene are not economically rational or they are pawns of some bigger hands behind the scene, which is why they're apparently just doing their best to destroy BTC not actually caring about the future success of their shitcoin -which is impossible because if they manage to kill btc any reason to trust a clone will die with it.

Even if the battle will go on undecided the risk of 51% attacks will likely increase. So it's a crappy situation with no end in sight which I would solve with a change in PoW so to leave the ASIC farmers and their owners alone with their chinacoins.
391  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 28, 2017, 07:16:56 PM
I have 34 of those that I bought back in 2014 or something. Might have to go thru the effort of selling them

Better to keep them while we keep forking a few more years.
392  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 28, 2017, 04:39:14 PM
(nonsense)

Ignored.
But it's interesting how Vertcoin is pumping lately. It must be a coincidence. It can't be related to the ASICs politics b/s in BTC.

393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 28, 2017, 01:08:02 PM
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*Unless a change in POW helps to equalize mining power by making costs harder to scale.
...Your apparent belief that a change in PoW will make any difference in centralization is unpersuasive. No matter the technology, mining power will coalesce to those that possess the financial resources, the BizOps acumen, and most importantly the persistence and pain tolerance needed for entrepreneurship on a grand scale.

I don't believe this is true. If somehow PoW can be tied to a smartphone for "one phone one vote", those who have financial resources can screw themselves against the brute force of several billion smartphone users.

Just No. Those that have the resources will run hundreds of android emulator VMs on each of hundreds of servers, and we'll be right back with the same centralization problem we have today.
We won't, if we switch to to a RAM and RAM-access intensive PoW algo. Let them try to emulate terabytes of RAM in a time efficient way. No eh? Just as I thought.

there is some really ASIC-resistant PoW, used by Vertcoin and maybe others. If the PoW has to be changed I'd like that to bring back the VGAs.
394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 28, 2017, 12:29:00 PM
Would you like to list some, er... non-pseudo objections, shall we say? Or is it enough for you to throw around ad homs?

395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin GOLD - A well thought Scam? on: October 28, 2017, 11:49:08 AM
so is there any safe way to extract this shitcoin from my BTC yet?
396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 27, 2017, 08:04:05 PM
still waiting for muh correction.



397  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2017, 02:23:16 PM
it's all fault of the japs if I don't get my correction soon:



and the fail in FUDding:

398  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2017, 01:14:56 PM
still expecting a correction before it goes to 18K...


https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/f3FYn0ou-BTCUSD-Long-Term-HODL/
399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2017, 02:09:30 AM
It throws a monkey wrench into their whole "Bitcoin-as-PayPal-2.0" plans.

Their plan is to kill decentralized crypto money production and trasmission.
Paypal 2 is just a ruse to mobilize the useful idiots who don't get it.

That's why they concentrate their attacks on the nodes (because bigger blocks are attacks on the nodes): because they already feel that they can control miners/pools via corruption or force, but nodes are still out of their control.
400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2017, 10:22:06 PM
4k? That's pretty pessimistic. I think I'll give up watching the price for a while until this blows over.

Pessimistic? We would be still definitely in a bull trend if it bottoms at 4K, and full of energy for a new pump.

This thread now looks like an echo chamber of a fanatic cult of hodlers.
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