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381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: March 08, 2024, 08:55:11 AM
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Trump is going to win anyway and his odds should be around 1.3-1.4 ideally. But from what I can see, most of the sportsbooks have his odds at 1.7 to 1.9. So that means the sportsbooks are underestimating his chances of win. Under these circumstances, it will be pure stupidity to bet against him. It is almost certain that he would be the POTUS candidate from the GOP. Only a legal challenge which would disqualify him from running for the presidential post can change that. And that is a remote possibility. I would rather advice everyone to bet in favor of Trump. 

And for you NotATether, why don't you bet in favor of Trump? Since you love Biden so much, if he wins, you get what you want, and if Trump wins, you will get a good monetary reward. 

Yeah, I think most of the betting sites are putting Trump as the winner.

And betting sites are probably more accurate than polls since people are actually putting money in there to get their "vote".

It will definitely be an interesting year for the world. Many elections going on at this time.
382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: March 08, 2024, 08:53:46 AM
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Of course, they are different. Drug addiction is a criminal act, meanwhile gambling addiction isn't a criminal act. Because drug addiction is a criminal act, police will catch them and give them certain actions. Meanwhile gambling addiction, police don't care with them. Moreover, if it is in the country that gambling is a legal activity. However, both of them need special treatment from doctors. For serious gambling addiction, it is almost impossible to recover without special treatments from the doctors. It is not so different with drug addiction that needs certain actions, so the addicted people can be separated from the drugs.

Well, when it is already a serious addiction, the addicts can't make any decision. Their family must be the people who make the decision. I'm sure family members will bring big impacts to make a faster recovery for the addicts.

That would depend on the country but I get what you're saying.

Drugs are seen as a criminal offense, whereas they really are a health related issue.

I think there's a lot of historical things that made it like that.

Portugal for example changed all these laws and treats drug use as a health issue and not a criminal one.
383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If I bet big I lose, but if I bet small I win on: March 08, 2024, 08:51:55 AM
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This is nothing but mind games and mind manipulation. This is a very simple thing to clear doubts, pick a month and use a big amount you know that you can afford to lose to play for the whole days in that month and check the result and choose another month test the same thing again but this time, it should be an amount you think it's small to gamble with in accordance to your financial pockets. By the time you are done, you can calculate the ROI and then do the maths together or because of unforeseen circumstances in gambling use the different amounts for the same game simultaneously, you will be surprised that they are all the same.

There is nothing like a small amount in gambling or a big amount, they don't affect your win in gambling, I have seen a small amount to play the same game with someone who used big amount and we both lost together due to a club that we depend on badly failed to score just a single goal, none of us that day blame the amounts but the team. I have also win from big amount and also small amount, so stop this believes.

Yeah, at the end of the day that is the business of casinos.

They make money off people trying to make money off them.

Yeah, the amounts don't matter, as the odds are the same independent of the amount you gamble.
384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: March 08, 2024, 08:47:23 AM
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This is totally true, gambling is not for the weak if we want to succeed by making ourselves profitable. The main reason why most of us gamblers losses is beacuse we don't consider gambling a serious venture, because if we consider it serious, we will make sure we treat it like a business that we will make a strategy, make adjustments until it will become working.

Slowly but surely, that should be the best strategy, and since most of us want an instant profit, that's why we easily fall to the hole. It's the sad truth but the reality, and casinos will always see that as an opportunity to maximize their income.

Gambling really is for the lucky to be honest.

Everyone will get there with the hopes of winning or at least to have a good time.

It's only the few lucky ones that end up actually winning something.

And they are just randomly sampled. There's no correlation between how good player you are and how much you win.
385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: March 07, 2024, 10:52:27 AM
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This kind of view is not rare, which is why we do not recommend people to gamble at their job even if they have the time on their hands to do it, as the only thing needed for them to lose their job is for their boss to find out about it.

Besides it makes no sense, the economy in a great deal of countries is not doing well, so we must treasure our jobs and risking them just so we can gamble is a mistake, as we could gamble once we are out of our jobs and obtain the same fun without putting ourselves in danger of being fired.

The thing is that life is for living, and if you simply work and go to sleep every day, and do nothing else then it would be a wasted life.

If you want to gamble, and you can do it at work, then that's a great thing to do. Why waste your personal time when it's possible to use the company time?
386  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Anyone +18 Play Gamble? on: March 07, 2024, 10:49:05 AM
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Again, you either dont understand what I ask or keep giving off-topic answers. What is the point of giving and example as "5 years old" and undeveloped brain, when the topic is about +18 years old (that is actually a message to everyone - why you keep discussing underaged and gambling when the topic is about adult and gambling). You think people at +18 think the same as underaged ?

People, google definition of an adult. +18 = legal adult. Has all rights to do what is legal in his country. Is some adults at +18 have "undeveloped brain" and can not act responsible, then this is a problem of their parents, parents overprotection and parenting. Gambling is not a problem here.

Fair enough, I agree with you.

Someone who is legally an adult in their country, say 18 years old, they should be able to gamble because they are already developed.

It's a personal choice, and I much rather have the people decide what they do with their lives than having a government telling them what they can and what they can't do.
387  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: March 07, 2024, 10:44:12 AM
Betting an election is something that is not usually regular like betting do I do know that some countries people bet on their elections, but for me, I don’t really find any fun  on betting on elections neither the US presidential elections that is coming, I feel more comfortable in betting I have never participated in anything elections and I have never done that before. I don’t pick interest I don’t even follow any election trend. I just followed the government that is on sit after the election, maybe other persons also like betting on election but I don’t really have much interest on it. The manipulation on election is too much on personal interest it’s something that can be manipulated.

It's really interesting to see betting scores because they serve a bit like a poll, but I would say they are more accurate because people are putting money in those bets, not just saying it.

It's interesting to see that Trump is basically going to be the next president of the US based on these "polls"
388  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: March 07, 2024, 10:42:53 AM
There is nothing like that shit doesn't work is real, and anyone that tells you to believe that is trying to fool you, especially those that take a fee from you to give you experts predictions, this will not go down well with the outcome before it happens, gambling is not like trading where you can copy another person trade pattern,  because gambling is a game of chance and luck and for.that none can foresee what the outcome of tla bet will be irrespective of the level of the analysis.
 and chances to win and nothing more, the highest an expert prediction can do for you is to give you a clue to what to look out for and by so doing also just gives an insight or data to work with but not an end solution in itself.

Yeah, but the thing is that the market is irrational.

So, in a way, you could make money buying and selling a stock or a company that doesn't do anything.

These days it's all about hype. Normal markets are now closer to a casino really.
389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: March 07, 2024, 10:40:48 AM
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With VAR, the match will be more careful and the players will no longer look natural, there will be no more controversies such as hand of God goals or so on, like the previous World Cup. Sometimes VAR also becomes a controversy, because all decisions depend on the referee views. Some people like football without VAR, because they enjoy it from an old perspective. However, if it prioritizes justice, then VAR is considered very important in the development of football at this time. It all depends on individual perception, and in the upcoming World Cup VAR will be an important part of a match.

At the end of the day the point of the game is to entertain.

These days I've seen so many great matches derailed by the overuse of VAR.

Every single call of it changes the flow of the game.

And they can even go way before the current time of the game. What's the point of going back say 2 minutes if something happened then. It should be applied immediately, and only on very tight calls.
390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If I bet big I lose, but if I bet small I win on: March 06, 2024, 01:55:03 PM
Oh, this actually happened to me a lot I don’t need to panic I don’t think it’s happening to just you alone. It’s all around different person like me l, what’s actually happened is the time I bet Low I win whenever I accumulate bets to find a big steak I lose , so this has really continued for a while and I see myself that if I continue doing this way in my betting lifestyle will continue to be losing, so what I do. I just bit small and I definitely win myself I don’t really understand the tricks they are using here, but just stick to wherever you’re winning at least.


Yeah, it's just a personal feeling.

In the end it is just a numbers game.

You will lose more than what you win in the casino, and that's just how it goes.

Of course people will want you to believe otherwise but they are just not right let's say
391  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: March 06, 2024, 01:53:10 PM
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Trump is already leading Biden by a huge margin in most of the opinion polls. So I don't really think that he needed any sympathy wave. But it did helped him. And for any other candidates like Haley and Michelle, I think the chances are too low. And the legal issues that Trump faced was most likely diversion tactics employed by the Democrats, to shift attention away from the border issue. The situation at Southern border is hurting Democrats really bad and I am quite surprised that they are still remaining deaf to that issue.

Yeah, I think Trump is going to be the next president of the USA.

I don't know if that is a good or a bad thing, but seems to be the most likely thing
392  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Anyone +18 Play Gamble? on: March 06, 2024, 01:51:24 PM
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What is fully developed brain? A person who understands what actions leads to which consequences? Come on man, people at 18 are allowed to become parents, and you are talking about developed brain and gambling. Becoming a parents is way more complicated than potential gambling addiction, which might never happen actually. People at 18 are allowed to do things that can cause more troubles than gambling. And getting back to developed brain - when it is fully developed? It is funny how everyone tell kids - you are a grown up now, dont act like a child. Develop. Study. Explore. Yet try to limit them in every possible way because "their brain isnt developed".

Many people have tried to answer that question and I still believe it is an open question.

Having said that, there are broad ranges, say a 5 year old vs a 40 year old clearly face different issues when faced with a gambling issue.

That's the kind of thing i am trying to pose here.
393  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: March 06, 2024, 01:47:59 PM
This is a useful strategy to help manage risk and avoid losing large amounts of money. By betting only 1%, you can ensure that you are not putting all of your eggs in one basket, you are not putting too much in any one bet, and you can play more games over time, making it more enjoyable and sustainable.
Relaxed and employed a solid game strategy because it's going to be acquainted with massive profits. There's no means available to start risky everything in the system, for what exactly? I've been calmed this whole while and taking upon myself to become very useful when it comes to gambling, staking 1% doesn't seem to be something we all should be bother about? That's the only safer ground we can embodied the system and techniques to get involved. Gambling is not for the weak, steadily grinding for relevant odds in the system is not an easy tasks accomplished and the continuous process.

Yeah, that actually sounds like the perfect client for betting agencies.

Someone that gets more money every month, and decides to put a big chunk of it into the pockets of the people running casinos
394  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: March 06, 2024, 01:46:10 PM
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But it's not about being the first or last referee, it's about being effective in the game and in the decisions of the referee and that's what the VAR currently does in the games we see.
Even if the referee makes a decision he can change his mind because of the VAR system and this means time after time, we are getting closer to having a robotic game which is not going to be fun at all.
I think in the World Cups like this one in 2026, they could postpone usage of VAR and instead, they could trust on knowledge and skill of the referee they chose for each game which can make the World Cups much better and fun to watch.

Yes, that's the whole thing.

If the referee is certain of something happening, then no VAR is needed.

If there is some uncertainty, then the referee can have a look at what the VAR team produced.

It might not be enough to change the initial perception of the referee
395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: March 05, 2024, 08:14:03 AM
While I see almost nobody here trust expert predictions, however a person most likely would place a bet on a result his friend or someone close to sport will tell him. Even though we understand the outcome is still dependable from random, if a someone (not even an expert) tells that this team or player might win, a person will have a thought to place a bet based on that prediction. That is the trick of humans nature, to be greedy and cautious at the same time.

It really depends on the situation.

In some gambling games you might want to avoid doing the same bet.

For example in games like Bingo, where you have to split the prize if you have the same winning numbers.

On the other hand, the fact that betting agencies even show you services where they have their own experts sharing their tips, makes you think that actually copying the experts makes you no more money than doing it yourself.

Otherwise the betting agencies wouldn't be doing this...
396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: March 05, 2024, 08:11:17 AM
I can never believe that I lost a bet for Al Nassr team. The team lost despite having Cristiano Ronaldo as their best performer this season. I don't know if my research was wrong or right, thousands of gamblers like me bet on this game. Although Al Ain scored the goal before half time, Cristiano Ronaldo's side had enough chances to score.  Cristiano Ronaldo's team could not score goals due to goalkeepers and defenders despite attacking extensively.  Known as the best team this season, Al Nassr lost in the last minute of the knockout stage.

Yeah, that sucks when you actually are absolutely sure something will happen and then suddenly the unexpected occurs.

Having said that, the unexpected is where the money is, so in theory you could from time to time go against what your gut tells you and you might get lucky.
397  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: March 05, 2024, 08:10:09 AM
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Popular among whom? She is not even active in politics. And we are already in March and now only 6-7 months remains for the POTUS election of 2024. Even if a section of the Democrats want to project Michelle as the POTUS nominee, there is simply not enough time to do that. And why there should be any emergency replacement? As long as Biden is not hospitalized, there is no need for that. Michelle Obama can be the VP candidate for 2024. Maybe in 2028, she can be the POTUS nominee from the Democrat Party.

I don't really think there's any other contender than Biden and Trump to become president.

Trump just got good news with a ruling overturning the ban on him being in the ballot.

I'm sure this whole thing will end up with Trump even more popular than before.
398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: March 05, 2024, 08:08:37 AM
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You cannot bet 1% of your salary, the point here is not whether the amount is large or not, but that in addition to the rates, there are many mandatory payments that you need to pay, you need to live somewhere and eat. And to avoid problems with finances, you need to allocate only a small part of your salary for gambling, and only allocate 1% of the bet from this gaming budget. Only competent financial management will help you avoid problems in case of frequent losses, if in pursuit of adrenaline, you bet on 10% of your salary, this will lead to big problems.

Note that one aspect that is not mentioned is the frequency.

How many times should you bet that 1%.

1% of your annual salary is fine, every year?, every couple of years?, every month?

It really depends on what we are talking about.

Is it maybe a one-off?, in that case it shouldn't really matter I think, but it's usually never a one-off.
399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Anyone +18 Play Gamble? on: March 05, 2024, 08:07:05 AM
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Absolutely correct mate. In fact underaged are now beginning to learn adopt the lifestyles of adults faster, though some of them now can behave themselves well and leave as matured adults, but fact still remains that they have not yet gotten enough life experience to teach them some self lessons. However parents and also one of the major causes of this problem with underaged starting to do what they ought not to do, they are supposed to give guidance and counseling to their children in a loving manner to that the child could emotionally understand and make that his target for life. But yet they push their children too far from them, and let the child make hefty decision at a tender age.

Yeah, although it is true that kids are getting more "advanced" at a younger age, I do think that the brain still requires some time to fully develop.

If you expose a kid, which are little sponges, to something like gambling, they would probably have a higher chance to end up addicted to it.

They lack the development of their brain to actually have a better grasp of what's going on.
400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: March 04, 2024, 07:49:13 AM
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That is the most horrible thing in football right now. We have introduced VAR so that when ref's do not see something, they can go check the VAR and change their decision, but there are so many terrible people officiating a game that sometimes they see their mistake at VAR and still not change their call.

They have this huge ego where they keep thinking that they are as important as players and they change the course of the game. They literally rule finals and ruin them as well, remember last years Roma Europa finals game? That ref was almost getting attacked with his family there, he made clear mistakes and decided not to change any of it. I believe that we are going to just end up being terrible if we are not careful.

We have always had a 4th referee that is there assisting the main one.

VAR is just a massive 5th referee basically, with a room full of technical people running the system.

At the end of the day, the main decision has to be done by the main referee. Everything else is just an opinion.

I quite like that they kept it like that, and not like in Tennis, where it is the truth like an Oracle.
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