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wow price is going great...already feel bad i sold some at 2500-3000.
but luckely i still have some coins...will buy more soon again...up we go!
woohoo!!!!
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Hi, totally new to this thread. Done some altcoin trading in the past with mixed success. Always interested in new ideas.
Can anyone confirm whether or not you can profit just by following the suggestions in the OP and the Twitter feed?
I tried doing that before following other pump/dumpers, a year or so back - never had much luck - pretty quickly I worked out that the Twitter account and public forum posts made by the group leaders were generally just to get people to buy in, at the point that the dump was starting. Guaranteeing a stream of suckers to buy up coins at their peak value from the pumpers, in other words.
Is that the same thing that's going on here, or is genuinely profitable advice on offer?
I've looked at some of the OP's site and it looks fairly interesting.
it surely is interesting but as you said yourself most info of coins posted here means the group already pumped or at least already accumulate. doesnt mean you can make profit with it but it is something you have to keep in mind. |
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Im not for or against a pump group but lets be realistic. There is no such thing as honest money. Everytime money gets earned there is somebody who gets fucked...and that can be on various ways.
All major companies fraud with taxes, sell good for 500 times its actual value, children working in factories all over the world and making the clothes you wear and so on... nothing is fair, thats how the world works..
Also regulation wont stop anything. Look at regular stockmarkets...it happens there the same only on a far bigger scale.
You don't understand regulation of the traditional markets.. Regulation lets the giants manipulate and the little guy go to jail. TPTB, with their high-frequency trading algorithms that are on computers right at the exchanges, have a hard-wired pipe to the market and can do trades in milliseconds. That is enough time to front run the markets. They can dictate the price on anything at will. They make their money whether price is up or down. Then the political establishment writes laws that allow them to do insider trading, which if you or I did it, we would go to jail. That is how crony-capitalism works in the USA. These guys here are just low-level thugs and if the big players move into crypto these guys will be rounded up and sent to crowbar hotel. This thread is shilled to death. Look at all of the accounts pimping this service. They rarely, if ever, post in any other thread. To them I say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fTAXVr8N40There are many forms of manipulation but also the ones you mention dont always work (binck bank for example just get caught doing that), but indeed i get your point. |
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yeah im getting more and more excited  |
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Hehe, hope it doesnt vanish as fast as it came... Must be a new buy support record  Anybody knows who this mysterious guy/woman is? And is he making himself ready for a pricejump? Where is unusualfacts now..he said it would go down back to 300 |
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i bought a lot of xpy today, Now it can go up again Do you enjoy losing money? Hehe we will see. You are allowed to laugh when i have sold with a loss |
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i bought a lot of xpy today, Now it can go up again |
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He's storing more navajocoin Maybe its a "she" ... female whale ... women always overreact |
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Mathematics, Dave. Learn it. Love it. Live it. Or, just continue to be an absolute moron, your choice.  Read the thread everyone knows who the moron is now Please tell me how old are you?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RUe02kPWvgAh lol, now i want to watch beverly hills cop again |
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Just look at this huge buy orders arround 2700!
About 500 k nav! Just amazing. Looks like big whales are accumulating before the March! This 2015 will be a Navajocoin year!
Holy shit  |
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Anyone know why we had a quick jump in xpy price earlier today?? Did we get another promise
Nope not sure, seems sell power has decreased for now...lets see what happens in the next days.. |
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Im not for or against a pump group but lets be realistic. There is no such thing as honest money. Everytime money gets earned there is somebody who gets fucked...and that can be on various ways.
All major companies fraud with taxes, sell good for 500 times its actual value, children working in factories all over the world and making the clothes you wear and so on... nothing is fair, thats how the world works..
Also regulation wont stop anything. Look at regular stockmarkets...it happens there the same only on a far bigger scale.
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I do understand, but there are hundreds of more big fish swimming in the same pool. Other pump groups, other big investors and so on and they all pump (and dump) the same coins at least when you talk about the hyped/popular ones.. so saying you are the only ones who are accumulating/buying simply isnt true, at least not all the time..
There are several big fish in the market, no one said there wasn't. There are even institutional traders involved in this market, and millionaires and other high net worth individuals We are just a group of whales who have one common goal, and we work together to achieve that it's called teamwork Hehe fine by me |
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Keep it nice guys. It is ok if not everybody is on the same page...thats what a forum is for  |
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Secondly there is almost nobody who purchases anything with btc yet.
Are you the CEO of bitcoin? If not, I'm not sure how you could know this. Well that is not a secret. Assuming i can trust sites like coindesk and all other news sites its a known fact that some huge investors have 60% of all bitcoins in there hands..and they control the prizes... And when looking in real life. Honestly do you know one person who ever bought something with bitcoin? Only crypto people like us have tried it some now and then and even we dont use it for regular things... and yeah there is a black market but globally speaking that isnt even talkworthy. |
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You guys indeed have influence on the prize of your pumped coins but that only is for a short period mostly.
You do realize that Ryan has manipulated nearly every coin that you can actually physically trade, when he speaks about "expanding territory" what do you think he means? I won't mention any coin names because I'm a team player, but , we don't just walk away from a coin after a pump ... you have seen that with several coins that ryan manipulates again and again virtually every new coin that comes out falls into group hands also, because all you need to do is put up some buy support and greedy devs take the bait every single time (why do you think every new coin has a high volume dump hours after going live) lol, so when Toleng mentions market making you have to ask yourself just who it is that you are buying from the next time you make a trade p.s pick any coin on bittrex, group hands are involved I do understand, but there are hundreds of more big fish swimming in the same pool. Other pump groups, other big investors and so on and they all pump (and dump) the same coins at least when you talk about the hyped/popular ones.. so saying you are the only ones who are accumulating/buying simply isnt true, at least not all the time.. |
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Merchant acceptance is one of the things Bitcoin price is struggling with, because it causes continuous downward price pressure due to merchants constantly dumping BTC every day.
Again: EXPLAIN how merchants accepting XPY will make the price go up. CONCENTRATE!
The btc sold by merchants have been previously bought by someone else so in the end it makes zero difference. Secondly there is almost nobody who purchases anything with btc yet. Most volume is purely created by companies (mostly chinese) who speculate with it. |
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Dont forget a big merchant who offers xpy as a payment option brings more exposure to paycoin and that will drive the price up as well!
So a big merchant can never hurt even if they immediately sell the xpy they receive. Secondly it increases volume and huge volume attracts new investors as well..
I do agree a big merchant will not instantly fix all problems, but talking this negative surely isnt true as well
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With all respect im not sure you can call yourself that way. Offcourse you can, but im not seeying it that way is what i mean You guys indeed have influence on the prize of your pumped coins but that only is for a short period mostly. Secondly your profits are, again with all respect, breadcrumbs. If i understand correctly you guys only make a few btc at most each trade.. That means assuming you pump at least one coin a week you will each take a profit of 52btc a year. Interesting math there, we pump every day... every week... every month the coins you mentioned will again settle at the bottom and we will be the only ones buying... as always guys like toleng have hundreds of btc so you are entire football fields off the mark there, with your outsider's assumuption we have done 600% profits 9 times even a petty 1 btc into GSX pre-pump turns into 10 btc with one plucking of a sling-shot We used SMBR and ESC as a cash cow throwing them up and down for fun, many people spun 5 btc profits with every rotation the all of coins, from day one are on the first page of the thread and the price charts are live on trex so you can look at the volume generated with each "maneouvering" you will end up looking at more than 4000 btc liquid extracted from the market since september so add a zero at the end of that 52btc If that is for real, then it changes a few things But as i said that is why its important to know the facts. My assumption was based on a few traders stories here in this topic. In the end its all about how much your profits are, percentages dont say much to me, thats all i was saying. So if they add btc numbers in each post after a pump that will make it much more impressive... The way it looks now, in my point of view at least, is that people act like kings but dont look like them at all....And offcourse i understand that the real big players dont have the need to prove themselves but as this topic is clearly ment to attract new customers as well it might be an idea to add thos btc numbers.. |
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Look up at the score board every once in a while The profits are just gonna keep on flowing I have already mentioned, we aren't traders... we are market makers! With all respect im not sure you can call yourself that way. Offcourse you can, but im not seeying it that way is what i mean You guys indeed have influence on the prize of your pumped coins but that only is for a short period mostly. Secondly your profits are, again with all respect, breadcrumbs. If i understand correctly you guys only make a few btc at most each trade.. That means assuming you pump at least one coin a week you will each take a profit of 52btc a year. Again that isnt bad, but (and i dont want to brag) i personally am a sole trader and the last six months i only invested in about six coins and made more then 150btc with it... and yes i have lost about 50btc as well, but still have more then 100btc profit from the last six months and im sure there are lots of more people like me.. But to be honest i did profit from your pumps as well with cann, opal, xst (dont know if xst pump was yours though) So for example if you have had 10btc of xst bought at 1000sat and sold at 10k, then you had 90btc profit with one trade...two times better then you guys earn while trading whole year long. And yes i know we sole traders dont always win, but everyone can pick spots and when you divide your risks you have at least as much chance as you guys... But again im not saying that you system doesnt work or that i think its good or bad. I just want to put things in perspective and although you are making some nice profits acting like you guys are the top of the market goes a bit too far for me..
im an old fashioned trader just like you, but the reality is that just doesn't work anymore. People are manipulating altcoins, even the devs, which I am sure you know yourself. Those of us that are making money here are either hunting for signs of manipulation and jumping on the band wagon, trading with manipulators or running our own manipulations
Indeed i totally agree. the market is so small that everyone who has some money, doesnt even have to be a lot, dont need a pump group and can manipulate coins himself.. |
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