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381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: September 22, 2014, 01:40:11 PM
Stop arguing please. I am sure everyone is welcome, and the admonition is just urging us to get the noise level down. You've expressed your logic on the name. Zoidberg works tirelessly on the product, we don't. He gets to choose. Good luck with the name you choose. Apologies for my comment "juvenile gaming". Remove the term "juvenile", my demographics point remains. I don't know which name is best. Originally I didn't like boolberry, now I like it better than other choices. I defer to zoidberg.
382  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 22, 2014, 01:17:12 PM
Whether BCX publishes the known spenders of rings or not is irrelevant, because it can be calculated by anyone at any time in the future.

He (or anyone) can't publish known spenders because of stealth addresses. All addresses on the blockchain are one-time-use, so there is nothing on the blockchain to link your transactions with each other so as to create a virtual "identity." In effect this is a potential compromise to "untracability" in cryptonote, which would allow some transactions to link with with each other, but not "unlinkability".

How successful that is depends a lot on how probable these linkages are to be made, which we don't know. It also remains to be seen feasible the algorithm is to perform, and what steps can be used to control the impact. We don't know any of these yet.

In any case it is interesting work that will help improve the technology (all cryptonotes) going forward. Anonymint deserves credit for coming up with it.

Agreed. Thank you for clarifying.

Edit: Some research apparently suggests linkability can be inferred when untraceability is lost, e.g. when balances are merged (multiple inputs to a transaction). Actually the identity of the sender also depends on IP connection obfuscation too. Complex issue. Nevertheless I agree with his point that my contribution attacks the untraceability. And I agree any mitigation and understanding gained may help improve the CN technology.
383  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 22, 2014, 12:17:45 PM
The essence of the problem I've discovered is that usersrings are allowed to mix with the same set of inputs too many times.


If the mix is not set by users but randomly when transaction is sent I see it as a plus for convenience and security considering the number of mixes does not slow the speed of transaction

See my edit. The rings can be randomly selected, but there will need to be enforcement on reuse of inputs. I will not reveal the specifics of the issue in public. Smooth has the information.
384  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 22, 2014, 12:11:24 PM
The essence of the problem I've discovered is that usersrings are allowed to mix with the same set of inputs too many times.

That doesn't tell you enough to do the calculation, but at least you hopefully see I am not full of shit.

I am not intent on attacking any coin. I am intending to help mitigate, if possible.

I will no longer favor BBR over XMR. They both get the same information from me.
385  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 22, 2014, 12:05:06 PM
I don't expect an attack on the private keys from BCX. Would be very surprising. Perhaps he has some other attack on wallets, but I don't have any idea what that would be, thus I doubt it.

As I said, the anonymity of some of the rings on the block chain appears to be broken (but my combinatorial algorithm is not yet tested nor fully characterized and vetted). There is nothing that can be done about that past history if I am correct. Whether BCX publishes the known spenders of rings or not is irrelevant, because it can be calculated by anyone at any time in the future. Once we have the algorithm running, we can determine which rings are not anonymous. This applies to all CN coins. I have a mitigation algorithm for future rings which works when there is no Sybil attack on the transactions. When there is a Sybil attack on the transactions, I don't yet comprehend how bad the problem is or is not. I am discussing it now with smooth. I don't yet know the running time or performance characteristics of my algorithm, nor its statistical properties. But the former may be irrelevant, as we have to compete with the NSA. Thus I've proposed the algorithm has to be run decentralized in conjunction with the PoW, if the complexity turns out to be NP hard.

Orthogonal to the anonymity issue above, I don't know if BCX can or will mount a difference or Time Warp attack using his GPU farms. I am not knowledgeable about the sort of damage he could do with that. I understand from reading others that the community has raised the hashrate so much that he will say that community fixed the problem. Rpietila has clarified privately that his 4 - 8% probability estimate did not apply to my likelihood of finding an exploit. That was only his estimate of whether BCX would mount an attack. It was not even an estimate of whether BCX could mount an attack. Rpietila can define the random variable more explicitly if he doesn't want me to become confused as to his intent.

P.S. I never expected the devs or anyone to cowtail to me. My only issue is my time opportunity cost. I don't want to waste my time. Time is of the essence for me for next couple of months.
386  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is a Madmax outcome coming before 2020? Thus do we need anonymity? on: September 22, 2014, 11:27:40 AM
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Global currency, BIS, and the Nazi connection
From:    AnnoyMint
Date:    Mon, September 22, 2014 7:24 am
To:      "Hamstrung Economecs"
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http://i-uv.com/the-economist-mainstream-globalist-propaganda-reveals-eastwest-conflict-is-a-farce/
387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: September 22, 2014, 10:18:29 AM
One last idea. Sorry to spam the thread. I think Boolberry is the best so far, because it stands out from the 100s of coins. If you are going to pick something new, it really needs to be weird enough to stand out. But not so weird that it doesn't improve upon Boolberry. You need a noun, so ciphering doesn't qualify in its traditional definition. Boolberry can appeal to the normal people very much. Even they don't know what Bool means, they know blueberries and blackberry. They won't know what it is, but curiosity killed the cat. As you can see, boolberry has grown on us and we started to like it. So that means it is brandable.

iono.org is available

Problem is people might think oh no instead of ion, ionosphere, and i dunno.

dunno is another idea, but it isn't normally a noun. A name that states the anonymity is usually negative. I also thought of alibi, hoodini, sleight, etc..

Edit: also pixie
388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unofficial Boolberry Namechange Poll (Keep boolberry is an option) on: September 22, 2014, 10:14:08 AM
From the BBR thread:

ciphering

I add:

stirring  (the anonymity is rings which the users jumble or stir together)

But those are verbs. We really want a noun. Stirrings is I guess a noun, but odd.

I did register egold.cc. Gold is anonymous. I might be willing to donate this domain name. You would need to contact e-gold.com and make sure they agree. They have shown interested in gold backed bitcoin clone in 2013 (but I guess they since realized it can't be decentralized).

Some new brainstorms:

hoodini
sleight
iono  (shortened form of i dunno, but also sounds like a noun ion or ionosphere)

iono.org is available


389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: September 22, 2014, 02:51:30 AM
stack
layers
onion
monion
woven
weave
390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: September 22, 2014, 02:45:51 AM
stegano
indelibool
391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: September 22, 2014, 02:17:40 AM
zing
zingy
392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: September 22, 2014, 01:45:17 AM
boolpod
swank
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: September 22, 2014, 01:29:07 AM
cybering

Easier to spell.
394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: September 22, 2014, 01:25:43 AM
Network name: Enciphering

Good. Shorten to Ciphering

The currency units would be ciphers. "Pay me 5 ciphers please".

Rune reminds me also of Dune, sounds like a Harrison Ford sci-fi movie.
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: September 22, 2014, 01:11:28 AM
Jon because I would like to see a viable competitor to Monero.

I think Rune is juvenile gaming shit. But go ahead if you want. No skin off my back. Good luck with Rune.
396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unofficial Boolberry Namechange Poll (Keep boolberry is an option) on: September 22, 2014, 12:04:22 AM
I had a mental lapse on the psst. I think I was thinking hush. I was multitasking and apparently got confused with shh.

chaos
mutex
jumblr
tokring

Any good?
397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: September 21, 2014, 11:58:02 PM
Is it really Rune now? Name is worse than before. Sounds like a kiddy game like Runescape or an MMO game where you put runes on your armors

At least Bool represents coding vocabulary

I really hope you don't name it Rune.

Rune means nothing to most people. It sounds like Ruin. It is not catchy.

I am not an owner of BBR, so please ask your own investors. Just my 2 cents.

Consider Digiberry instead or don't change the name.

BBR is a great currency abbreviation. Easy to remember. "BB" then "R".

The Boolberry logo on the home page looks great.

Hi AnonyMint

Good to see you here Wink

I think the berry side of things is where the initial under reaction was, so I think DigiBerry is not as aspiring. What would you seriously choose as a name for this coin/technology ? (Please no "psstt")

If you were targeting the wide use in social networking, berry is maybe a positive. And digi more understood by laypeople than bool.

If instead you are targeting the Bitcoin investor demographics which are younger, techie males, then something creative that identified with secrecy.

I had a mental lapse on the psst. I think I was thinking hush. I was multitasking and apparently got confused with shh.

chaos
mutex
jumblr
jumblit
tokring

Any good?
398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unofficial Boolberry Namechange Poll (Keep boolberry is an option) on: September 21, 2014, 10:42:18 PM
Nope, hubris won the day and the announcement was just made - don't let on though, I don't think they want anyone to know........

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg8917877#msg8917877

I posted a plea.
399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: September 21, 2014, 10:36:17 PM
Is it really Rune now? Name is worse than before. Sounds like a kiddy game like Runescape or an MMO game where you put runes on your armors

At least Bool represents coding vocabulary

I really hope you don't name it Rune.

Rune means nothing to most people. It sounds like Ruin. It is not catchy.

I am not an owner of BBR, so please ask your own investors. Just my 2 cents.

Consider Digiberry instead or don't change the name.

BBR is a great currency abbreviation. Easy to remember. "BB" then "R".

The Boolberry logo on the home page looks great.
400  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: September 21, 2014, 10:19:34 PM
2nd time today, we need a "jail" for newbies again.

@TheFascistMind, just put the people that troll you on ignore, so you can have conversations with the ones that appreciate what you are doing here.

You can see I am just toying with them now (and teaching them perhaps if they choose to learn). I am not taking them seriously now. "Boys will be boys".
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