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381  Local / Brasil / Re: onde comprar bitcoin " barato " on: May 17, 2017, 03:19:13 PM

bitquares: 3,582.76 BRL
paxful: 3,440.00 BRL

preço ta bom vou pesquisa no google essas empresas


Lembrando que essas 2 não são brasileiras, ou seja, atenção redobrada.. tem que ver tb se tem volume..

Eu uso sempre a FoxBit independente do preço por razões de segurança.

Verdade. A Foxbit é uma das mais seguras exchanges brasileiras. Quanto a diferença de preço, comprar Bitcoin no Brasil sempre foi mais caro. Não sei se é por causa da cotação do dólar ou são as taxas mesmo.

Pior que nem sempre é mais caro. Arrisco dizer que na maioria das vezes é mais barato.
Diversas vezes já postei pra galera aqui do fórum boas entradas com ágio negativo.
Por exemplo, se pegarmos a cotação do Mercado Bitcoin (mesmo sendo uma exchange que não aprecio), temos o valor do DólarBTC a U$2,91.
Tecnicamente está mais barato. Sei que tem taxas, mas o que torna o Bitcoin caro por aqui é nossa moeda fiduciária de lixo, não o Bitcoin em si.

DeltaX entendo e concordo com tudo o que voce disse. Em qual topico vc tem postado essas dicas de agio negativo?
382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 17, 2017, 03:36:48 AM
What's going on bitstamp?
Why this spread??
A few minutes ago spread got over 40 $!!!


It's not called Bearstamp for nothing.

Look at the candles size @ 30 min chart!
383  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 17, 2017, 03:25:18 AM
What's going on bitstamp?
Why this spread??
A few minutes ago spread got over 40 $!!!
384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 16, 2017, 04:29:35 AM
It's just the alt coin shuffle. Litecoin is getting kicked out of bed to make room. There doesn't seem to be any logic to it.

But roach said that anyone that buys the LTC double low would have more profit than anything

I remember that  Grin Grin Grin
385  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 15, 2017, 03:41:57 AM

Thank you!  Smiley
386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 15, 2017, 02:40:24 AM
Central banker Vitalik has made 1 huge mistake; he didn't used Bitcoins security for his Smart Contracts.

RSK will do a much btter job  Kiss

All Altcoins will be replaced by sidechains.




Link to this tweet?
387  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 12, 2017, 01:12:00 AM
"The Commission hereby establishes that any party to the action or other person may file a written statement in support of or in opposition to the Disapproval Order on or before May 15, 2017," the SEC said in a statement posted on its website on Tuesday.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/26/bitcoin-price-sec-winklevoss-etf-review.html

I think I got it wrong in first moment. Actually someone could appeal until this date.
388  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 12, 2017, 01:06:22 AM
Is it monday SEC will announce the new decision about BAT's ETF? (May 15)
389  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 11, 2017, 08:05:14 AM
i simply cannot wrap my brain around this action among the seeming chaos of the scaling issue. to judge by the talk, we should, at best, be stable, not climbing. Yet here we are, record highs.

i really am kicking myself over those 10 coins i sold to my brother for $1000. total. :| at the time, that was the price... heck, i think i actually did it in my favor by a percent or two. argh.

and then there's the 15 or so coins i spent on games and other crap... ugh.

If you sold to your brother, it's still in family. No problem. Just tell him you'll buy back if he's selling.
390  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 11, 2017, 07:53:09 AM
Sorry hodlers, but I just sold out to FIAT... I am expecting at least a small correction soon.

Maybe we go back up after a small correction, or maybe there is a large correction looming.

I think I will buy back after the small correction, and curse the gods if there is a large correction.  Cheesy

$1870 ATH on stamp. Sorry. I did the same also between 1200 and 1700...
391  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2017, 05:48:03 AM
/me HODL since $80. Except for that stupid SATA controller. When Newegg started accepting BTC, I was happy! I Can Buy Stuff.

In retrospect, it's starting to look like a microscopic version of the 10,000 BTC pizza.

Hey bro, thanks for sharing this thread's link. I already heard of this pizza trade here in Brasil like an urban legend, but now it seems so real to read it! I got a little emotional about all this. Feels like, even 6-7 years later we're still making history here.
A few months ago I was talking about bitcoin at my workplace, telling people how I managed to create a DIY hardware wallet just like i told @bitserve here in this thread yesterday and my colleagues were very skeptic about bitcoin. My boss even told me back there it was a ponzi scheme. I kinda got angry but realised it was useless to argue.
Last week the same boss came talking more interested, pretending he never called bitcoin a ponzi, and told me it was very expensive to buy nowadays. Knowing him as I do, I know something changed. I just left people aware this is something. People are starting to really look at bitcoin as a value storage, free from taxes, enable to be used anywhere in this world. I feel happy I'm helping bitcoin to grow here in this God-forsaken third world. We just got a president impeached last year and everybody fears future. We fear becoming another Venezuela.
That's where bitcoin helps us. That's bitcoin role in a free world. I also appreciate @roach's opinion, because I think that in a SHTF situation bitcoin is worthless, but I'm kinda skeptic about this severity. I fear an economic collapse, but not THAT severe to shut down internet and everything else. Anyway his opinion is valuable.

Thank you guys for every comment and tip. I'm just a third world family man trying to raise 2 kids and saving in bitcoin for their college. Even after being reckt by Africoin's irresponsibility and my own lack of good sense, I'm still here believing and fighting for bitcoin. Everything you guys write here is valuable and I hope you're aware we're still making history. Bitcoin will eventually take over the world.


392  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2017, 05:01:02 AM
OH SHIT, NEGROES !

WE'VE DROPPED BELOW $1,700 !

FEAR !

PANIC !

DOGS AND CATS. LIVING TOGETHER !

MASS HYSTERIA !!!



I like this guy!
 Grin Grin Grin Grin
That's the kind of humor we miss here often. Cheesy
393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2017, 02:10:32 AM
Got a FOMO attack and rebought everything I'd sold @ 1200 following Afrikoin's advice.
Who remembers?
Now I have 40% less coins, thanks to that stupid belief.
Lesson learned, page turned, now I'm on JimboToronto train. No matter the price, I'll take every chance to buy. Every month if I can...
Back to HODLrs team and I'll honor my nickname.

i fkn remember!!

25% haircut!!

Stinking fiat!!

Thx for reminding!

 Cry Cry Cry Cry
394  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2017, 01:44:45 AM
Got a FOMO attack and rebought everything I'd sold @ 1200 following Afrikoin's advice.
Who remembers?
Now I have 40% less coins, thanks to that stupid belief.
Lesson learned, page turned, now I'm on JimboToronto train. No matter the price, I'll take every chance to buy. Every month if I can...
Back to HODLrs team and I'll honor my nickname.

Bro only sell in like 5 years or so, do not trade. Get rich or die trying.
Helemaal knetter.

Amen to this.
395  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 10, 2017, 01:36:19 AM
Got a FOMO attack and rebought everything I'd sold @ 1200 following Afrikoin's advice.
Who remembers?
Now I have 40% less coins, thanks to that stupid belief.
Lesson learned, page turned, now I'm on JimboToronto train. No matter the price, I'll take every chance to buy. Every month if I can...
Back to HODLrs team and I'll honor my nickname.
396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2017, 11:41:30 PM



helemaal knetterr

Nice reference. Best chart I've seen.
397  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2017, 01:39:58 AM


I solved this problem without having to spend money on a hardware wallet by
1- removing SIM card and factory-resetting my old phone, immediately putting it into airplane mode (wi-fi, bluetooth and everything else also manually disabled) and ENCRYPTING WITH STRONG PASSWORD (not draw pattern);
2- installing Electrum via APK stored on micro-SD;
3- generating new wallet in this air-gapped phone, then I imported x-pub to everyday brand new phone.

Now I can see balance, receive bitcoin and create unsigned transactions on the connected phone, then old phone signs transactions via QR-code.

Cheap and easy.

Ok, not bad, you basically have a DIY hardware wallet. Still not as much secure (physical access to phone and chip-off technique among others) and certainly not as convenient to use as a commercial hardware wallet.... But yes, its ok.

Hardware wallets are now less than $100 anyways.... That's still cheap, and easier.

Not forgetting that I always have Electrum's seed (written down, memorized, hidden, scrambled within books, etc)
398  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 09, 2017, 01:28:22 AM
Also, if you have 12BTC on a software wallet my advice inmediately changes to: Buy a hardware wallet NOW!
What's wrong with a software wallet? Mine is password protected, stored in a veracrypt volume, which is stored on my encrypted /home partition, and included in several backups stored in different air-gaped locations and only ever connected one at a time. (and most importantly, I'm not running a toy operating system.)


Well, you are describing it perfectly. I can have better security with my hardware wallet without needing any special security measures. I could even use it on "public" computer.

I say "better security" because no matter how many layers of encryption you may be using... at some time you would need your computer to access the wallet in "plaintext" to sign the transactions and that opens an attack vector.

It's much better to have the signing be done inside a specialized hardware....

Plus it is amazingly more convenient to use.



I solved this problem without having to spend money on a hardware wallet by
1- removing SIM card and factory-resetting my old phone, immediately putting it into airplane mode (wi-fi, bluetooth and everything else also manually disabled) and ENCRYPTING WITH STRONG PASSWORD (not draw pattern);
2- installing Electrum via APK stored on micro-SD;
3- generating new wallet in this air-gapped phone, then I imported x-pub to everyday brand new phone.

Now I can see balance, receive bitcoin and create unsigned transactions on the connected phone, then old phone signs transactions via QR-code.

Cheap and easy.
399  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 06, 2017, 01:33:25 AM
1h chart, we have: 1 shoulder, 1 head... another shoulder forming?
400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 06, 2017, 12:31:43 AM
What do you think, how much time do we have left until they (Jews - the worlds elite) ban bitcoin worldwide due to potential danger for "terrorism"? Since they forbid anything they have no control over. Here in Germany (Europe in general) they started to ban prepaid phone cards already. Anything that you can buy without an ID is a risk for them control freaks.

My guess is, as soon as they will start their own crypto currency. I think about 2-3 years left?

Will not happen! They may try to regulate it even more.
But that will increase demand even more and people will buy more and more off exchanges.
You can not stop Bitcoin!
Germany is a shit place already! And I live there as well and can't wait to leave this place. But things need to be prepared well for that.

Haha you guys are so spoiled! Have a bockwurst and a Polaner and relax already!

Curious where you would prefer to live outside of North-West Europe....

Chile, Peru and Uruguay (if you like green smoke) are getting better every year.
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