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3801  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not as advertised on: November 02, 2010, 11:58:49 PM

I still would like to see tentative explain me how he could create a chain of 90,000 proofs of work with the same difficulties that are inside the current block chain, and then be faster than the current bitcoin network, so that he could always make sure his chain is longer than the bitcoin one.
3802  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not as advertised on: November 02, 2010, 10:46:02 PM
I can, in fact, generate a longer block chain.

Please do so and thus prove us wrong.


3803  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not as advertised on: November 02, 2010, 10:32:22 PM
Hi all,

Having studied Bitcoin in depth for a long time,
I've come to realize the following:

Bitcoin is not peer-to-peer.
The consensus block chain is determined more by the official node implementation than by the individual nodes.
If ever you stop updating your software to the latest version, you rapidly become vulnerable to attack. This will never change.
If you implement your own node, you have to choose between:
1. Agreeing to be dictated the "consensus" block chain by the official release.
2. Being vulnerable to attack

I'm willing to back these allegations with proof.
The question is, is anyone interested?


Behind the concept of "money", there is necessarly some kind of a "consensus".  The current block chain is accepted because it is the longest one in existence.

The software could easily be modified to accept an other block chain.  So if you can build a longer block chain, I will accept to buy some of your "coins" and I'd use a modified version of the software to do so.  But it would be extremely difficult for you to build such a chain, since it would require a huge amount of CPU.  You could not do this alone.  Nobody could.

3804  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Linux/Debian/FSF stickers from 10 BTC ! on: November 02, 2010, 09:49:12 PM
It would help to post on http://biddingpond.com. Its quite easy and the auction part is done for you.

I tried this site but I failed to register !  Sad

I'll try again though.
3805  Economy / Marketplace / If I can't be there at the deadline on: November 02, 2010, 09:17:36 PM
If, for some reason, I can't be online at the 90,000th block,  if I'm not on IRC either and if this thread is still open, then you will be able to post some bids until I wake up or get connected.  It should not be long.  I will then immediately lock the thread and the highest bid will be the winner, even if it was actually posted after 90,000.

Is that Ok with everyone ?
3806  Economy / Marketplace / Possible IRC meeting when we get close to 90,000 on: November 02, 2010, 09:03:18 PM

I'm considering organizing an IRC meeting just before we reach 90,000.

Indeed if many people try to put a bid here just before the end, it could be messy and unfair, since some orders will be delayed.  And a forum is not designed to do real time conversations, anyway.

So what I am planning to do is to lock this thread at about block 89,900, and then open an IRC channel on #freenode.

My IRC login name is password protected, so it should be alright.
3807  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Auction for a 5g pure gold bar until block 90,000 on: November 02, 2010, 08:42:41 PM
1,100 BTC Smiley

I don't feel comfortable accepting a bid if there is a smiley aside to it.

Please confirm.

Edit.  Ahh it's ok.  I don't know why I wrote that.  Your bid is accepted.

Loki leads at 1,100 BTC
3808  Economy / Economics / Re: Price of gold in bitcoins : a naïve approach on: November 02, 2010, 04:41:40 PM
For sure.

Buy at 6 cents ... go to 16 .... success?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
3809  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Linux/Debian/FSF stickers from 10 BTC ! on: November 02, 2010, 03:26:14 PM
Are those Linux powered stickers case-badge size? The ones that look shiny and rounded?

Some of them are shiny and rounded indeed.  I attached here a detailed photo for those "bumped stickers".

I don't have many of them and they are much better quality than flat tiny ones.  So I'll sell them for 20 BTC.

Edit.  Oh sorry I've just realized you were asking about the size !  I'll take pictures of them above a credit-card sized card, so that you can make an idea of the size.

3810  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bounty for Bitcoin Animated Movie [13622.05 BTC ($2520) and growing] on: November 02, 2010, 03:23:20 PM
Has anyone got any accurate idea of a script for such a video ?
3811  Economy / Marketplace / Linux/Debian/FSF stickers from 10 BTC ! on: November 02, 2010, 03:01:25 PM
I sell some brand new Linux, Debian and FSF stickers for PC.  There is also one Tux keyholder for 50 BTC, and a Tux magnet for your fridge (40 BTC).  See attached photo.

The smallest ones are only 10 BTC.  This is BELOW my purchase price, but I don't care.  This is my way of contributing both to free software, and to bitcoins.

Price includes postal fees.  PM me your postal address and tell me the kind of stickers you want.  I'll send you a bitcoin address.

I will add some detailed photos on this thread if someone wants me to.

If this sell is a success, I'll buy more.  I bought all this at www.it2l.com, but this website is temporarily closed.
3812  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Govcoin. on: November 02, 2010, 01:52:50 AM
Government hates everything that it cannot control.
Power hungry sickness.
Authority hungry sickness. ~fixed

You got to understand them : what would those guys do for a living if they had no-one to rule and to tax from ??

Having people work for them while they give stupid orders and pointless regulations, that's their job !  They are just defending it.
3813  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bounty for Bitcoin Animated Movie [5173.05 BTC ($285) and growing] on: November 02, 2010, 12:28:28 AM


About making a video, I'd like to mention the "synfig" software.   Basically it's kind of a inkscape but with animation feature.
It's free software and it can do some nice things.  I'm not good in this kind of artistic stuf but if someone wants to give it a try, just search synfig.  On debian like systems :  apt-cache search synfig
3814  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Auction for a 5g pure gold bar until block 90,000 on: November 01, 2010, 08:46:07 PM
Gold is about to turn down for at least 10% if not 30% in nominal dollars, so one can wait to buy gold...

Then there's also some credible sources saying 2-3 year target above $3000. So... the fact would be, no one really knows, unless they are manipulating the market themselves, and then that wouldn't even be a guarantee.

I don't know what will be the price of gold in a few years, but I'm pretty sure I would not feel confident if I had a lot of dollars in cash right now.  Those people are flowding the banking industry with trillions of worthless dollar.  Not only this will eventually lead to massive inflation, but above all, it's unfair enough for me not to want to participate to this by hoarding dollars.
3815  Other / Off-topic / Re: Useless intellectual work on: November 01, 2010, 08:40:12 PM
Jes. Ni devas etendi trans al aliaj mundoj. Vojaoj al la Luno kondukas nin al Marso. Espere iam ni loos sur Marso Smiley Ni bezonas tion por nia viveco. A ni uzos tuta da resursoj kaj mankos se etendios ni mem al la steloj.

Eble *vi* devas fari tion.  Sed vi ne povas forci aliajn ulojn je helpi vin je fari tion.  Mi ne kredas en la ebleco je vivi al Marso.

Voli vivi tie estas stulta.  Ni povas *iri* tien, sed neniu volas vivi tie.  La Luno pruvis tion :  ni iris tien, ni plantis flagon, kaj ni revenis.  De pli ol kvardek jaroj ni ne reiris tien.

Vivemi al la Luno estas same stulta ol vivemi al la supra parto de Everesto :  oni volas esti la unua ulo je iri tien, sed neniu volas vivi tie !!

Luno, kaj Marso, estas nenio, sed grandegaj dizertoj.  Neniu volas vivi en dizertoj.

Eble vi esperas oni povos terigi Marson.  Nu, terigu unue la terajn dizertojn, antauxe revi pri tio.
3816  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Auction for a 5g pure gold bar until block 90,000 on: November 01, 2010, 08:25:51 PM
Gold is about to turn down for at least 10% if not 30% in nominal dollars, so one can wait to buy gold...

Yeah, sure.  I have been hearing this one for quite some time, now.

3817  Economy / Marketplace / Less than 1,000 blocks to go on: November 01, 2010, 07:29:33 PM

Current highest bid is 1,000 bc.

Anyone for 1,100 ?
3818  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Maneki Neko on: November 01, 2010, 07:04:01 PM
very nice!

Can you take the courage to draw a new symbol of the coins? Thai Baht embarrassing.

As such a symbol been decided yet ?

If not, I would suggest a drawing of a key, with the two traditional vertical bars for currencies.
3819  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Maneki Neko on: November 01, 2010, 06:46:23 PM
Looks nice !

Thank you.

(check your bitcoin balance  Wink )
3820  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank of England Head Mervyn King Proposes Eliminating Fractional Reserve Banking on: November 01, 2010, 05:25:17 PM
The Federal Reserve believes it is possible that, ultimately, its operating framework will allow the elimination of minimum reserve requirements, which impose costs and distortions on the banking system.
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Yeah it's true. Why bother about requiring some reserves, hum ?

I actually agree :  let's abandon all this crap.  Then the federal reserve will have no reason to exist, and we'll go to a free banking industry.  Everybody will have the right to be his own bank :  and in this scheme, I'm sure bitcoin will be the best money ever.
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