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3801  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread sept 4th. to sept 17th Picks are closed. on: September 05, 2015, 10:35:36 PM
This mechanic of charging at S5 prices while running S7 or something unknown is also probably applicable to most hashrate on hashnest. Milk users at 97% of Revenue/Cost while in actuality they're running some other(more efficient) hardware while the obsolete hardware are boxed in storage somewhere. Pretty smart.
3802  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: September 05, 2015, 06:54:37 PM
Where did that guy live? In a gave for 1 year?

I'm not sure how you can have missed the train wreck that started in 2014.
3803  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: An (even more) optimized version of cpuminer (pooler's cpuminer, CPU-only) on: September 05, 2015, 05:12:50 AM
How to mine ultracoin with this cpu miner, please?

Can someone paste cmd line. It is scrhypt-jane algo. Thank you.

Launch it through cmd.exe, start cmd first, or add a pause at the end. @pause i think it is?
3804  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH on: September 05, 2015, 05:09:44 AM
Really? That's pretty disappointing. Only some perif cables are 18awg on the EVGAs i have. Rest is all 16AWG. Goes without saying they remain cold to the touch.
3805  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH on: September 05, 2015, 04:38:11 AM
Can a single pcie 18awg be used to power a single dashboard?



Yes, if the connectors arent crap and the pins properly connect to each other, basically plug it in and touch the connectors a bit later, if they're burning hot then they're no good. If its cold or lukewarm after sustained load there should be no problem. You should be able to put both plugs on one board and it should split the load on the connectors just fine.
3806  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain just implemented nuclear fusion in their s9 miner? on: September 05, 2015, 03:22:21 AM
I only know of fusion power in experimental stages, but would be interested to see if someone had a viable over-unity fusion power generation process even in limited deployment.

Also on the subject of fusion having nothing to do with bombs... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

Also on the subject of the Antminer S9... actually wait I have nothing to contribute there. But Bitmain's apparently working on a full-custom 16nm chip we'll probably see on it.

Yes... the power we can harvest from fusion is incredible. If we start using top end ICBM against each other, there will not be much left of current civilization. But anyways.

In controlled environment to harvest energy, we're at a stage where we get more energy than we put in (to do the fusion). I think the numbers were 500Mw in for 2000Mw out in a fusion reactor that is being built in Europe by 2020.
3807  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain just implemented nuclear fusion in their s9 miner? on: September 05, 2015, 01:39:49 AM
This thread is a trap designed  to make people angry.

the op has done many others.

A new poster puts in a post on nuking Japan and I feel this is an attempt to get us to fight on this thread.

I stated that nuclear fusion which has nothing to do with nuclear fission and bombs.   We dont have viable nuclear fusion technology yet. 

And i replied that's inaccurate Tongue

A fission detonator is used to ignite fusion fuel. Its viable nuclear fusion. Its also possibly a bomb.

Maybe you are referring to "Cold Fusion", however "viable nuclear fusion" are very much viable and very much in existence and very much in use.

The fusion power plants are very green and much safer. Even tho a possible meltdown is still a possible meltdown.

There aren't many yet (was mostly small one as PoC at first), as its fairly new, (few years), and there are some industrial grade one under construction right now. Smiley

Ok, show me one commercial grade nuclear fusion power plant.  I can show you hundreds of nuclear fission power plants.

Sure, you can start here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_power first "commercial" reactor is in 2014. Which is the only one i need to prove your fallacy. But regardless, nuclear fusion isin't new so this is a moot point. Even though as a commercial element this is very new, nuclear fusion it itself is not that new. Wink
3808  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain just implemented nuclear fusion in their s9 miner? on: September 05, 2015, 01:30:42 AM
This thread is a trap designed  to make people angry.

the op has done many others.

A new poster puts in a post on nuking Japan and I feel this is an attempt to get us to fight on this thread.

I stated that nuclear fusion which has nothing to do with nuclear fission and bombs.   We dont have viable nuclear fusion technology yet. 

And i replied that's inaccurate Tongue

A fission detonator is used to ignite fusion fuel. Its viable nuclear fusion. Its also possibly a bomb.

Maybe you are referring to "Cold Fusion", however "viable nuclear fusion" are very much viable and very much in existence and very much in use.

The fusion power plants are very green and much safer. Even tho a possible meltdown is still a possible meltdown.

There aren't many yet (was mostly small one as PoC at first), as its fairly new, (few years), and there are some industrial grade one under construction right now. Smiley
3809  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2900 TH] Kano CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: September 05, 2015, 12:46:52 AM
Another ckdb restart - again as usual no miners are expected to be affected since ckpool isn't/wasn't restarted.

Anyone wondering about how long it takes, at the moment to load the entire history of the pool and then do a catch up on the last hour or two back to the state it was when I stopped ckdb, and then rolling forward to the current point in time, takes about 13 minutes.

This change fixes the block stats "Age" field (and renames it "Time")
The field states how long it took to find the number of blocks so e.g. the last 5 blocks includes the time it took to find the 5th one and not the time since the last one was found (the time since the last block is in the page header of course)

I also added a red line on the shift page showing the start of the last payout.
Thus below that line shifts can not get any more rewards.
Some of the trailing shifts above the red line also will not get rewards as time since the last block increases, but none below can.
Restart completed and block found Smiley

Hmmmm maybe you should restart* more often? Tongue
3810  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread on: September 04, 2015, 11:21:31 PM
I get that lua error when i mess up with cgminer launch config parameters. To fix it i had no choice but to revert to default. But then i solved the inherent problem by changing firmware. Smiley

i just upgraded firmware to latest one, it had some custom, i don't remeber now wich one.  Huh

Did that solve it? Because it probably kept the same config files, which you will have to restore to default. If you have a S3 that work, copy paste that config. Or ask for someone here to pastebin it for you.
3811  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread sept 4th. to sept 17th Picks are closed. on: September 04, 2015, 11:14:47 PM
you don't understand why a builder with 10% of the hash loses money by expanding to 15% of the hash you think he makes more  money if he does that.

the problem is 4-6 guys all have 10 to 15% of the hash each.  they all can build bp and then the other 4-6 guys match them.

So what hey have been doing is swapping  gear with out really expand hash by a ton.

they have s-3's at .75watts  they have s-5s at .50watts  now they have s-7s at .25watts

so they ⅓ their power   so many think they  will 3x their hash .  if the top 6 builders all do this they all gain nothing and they spent money to make the gear.

so they try to ⅓ their power  and 1.5x or 1.2x their hash.

if the top 6 builders do this.  they keep the same share of the network and they spend less on power.

This is what has stopped the crazy growth the last year.

unless your gear is god like say .01 watts a gh and really cheap to build expansion of hash matching your efficiency gain is a loser economically.

so s-5 at .5 and s-7 at .25  for example does not pay to 2x the hash power
 if the other builders can match you.  but if antminer ½ the power and 1.25x the hash   and are matched by the other builders  antminer makes more money.

this is very simple math.

I believe there are several errors in your analysis.  You have assumed everyone pays a similar amount for their miners, has similar costs and does not try to drive others out of business.

1) Not all miners pay the same for their miners.  The mining hardware with the highest efficiency is not likely to be sold to the public.  It is more economic for the manufacturer to keep it to themselves and mine themselves. This is what KNC and Bitfury do.  They manufacture their own cheap hardware and do not sell to to the public.  It is in their interest to increase their hash rate as it increases their profits.

2) For similar reasons miners in areas with the cheapest electricity will try to maximize their hash rates.  Anyone who pays more than about $0.05 per kWh is likely to be ultimately driven out of the mining business.

3) Finally you have assumed people would co-operate if they all had the same costs.  But people are not always that rational in an unregulated market.  See the Tragedy of the Commons.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

The entire mining game is a zero sum game.  There is only a fixed amount of money available from Bitcoin mining.  

The best way to maximize your profits is to not share your competitive advantage and to keep your costs below your competitors.  Ideally you would like most of your competitors to give up and leave the market.

So I expect the battle between the miners to continue and the hash rate to continue to increase for some time yet.  



I think there is a flaw in your counter analysis, because in reality, if a side push for tripling their hash, the other sides will keep the pace and in the end they all undermined themselves. And this is not speaking of the production limitations that simply cannot be overcomed in such a small time span. So no, we won't see 1000PH in a few months.

It's not that easy to produce 2 billions chip at the technological edge. The more you try to get in a small time span, the higher to production cost. Exponentially.
3812  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread on: September 04, 2015, 06:56:11 PM
I get that lua error when i mess up with cgminer launch config parameters. To fix it i had no choice but to revert to default. But then i solved the inherent problem by changing firmware. Smiley
3813  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread sept 4th. to sept 17th Picks are closed. on: September 04, 2015, 06:53:32 PM
I hope not. 1k PH would be insane growth. I can't imagine it happening at all.

If it happened it would really suck because i very much doubt BTC would go up to 500$.
3814  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com on: September 04, 2015, 05:08:05 PM
LTC rewarded dropped in half and price didnt go down. Diff plummeted but somehow its skyrocketing again. I really wonder what's up with that. Profitability is down the drain, i'm not sure why there's so much hash on the network.

I get there's some very efficient SCRYPT ASICs but err...

Cheap Chinese power is keeping miners going.

Yeah sure but i doubt 95% of scrypt mining power is in China. Then again maybe its all running on super efficient FPGPA or something.
3815  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 30 Antminer S5 Units 1.45 BTC each (Only Canada) on: September 04, 2015, 05:03:34 PM
how can i be assured that the miner is sent after purchasing?
Will give you a tracking link in the next 24 business hours.

You can also use escrow, in this case OgNasty is accepted at your cost.
3816  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NSA KNOWS on: September 04, 2015, 10:12:55 AM
An IP is not a person. NSA knows the entrance to internet, but they dont know who uses this entrance.

Now if only they didn't have easy access to who own what ip, then i'm sure that'd make me feel safer. But sadly i don't know of many ISP that you connect to that doesn't have Your name, your address, your bank account #, etc. Tongue
3817  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [SIDEHACK STICK] Official sales thread for everywhere not already covered on: September 04, 2015, 10:09:50 AM
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What kind of cooling would we need to keep a stick at 250mhz? xD
A small fan will do.  I've always been a fan (hah.) of the Arctic Breeze Mobile [arctic.ac] - a USB-powered fan on a flexible neck for easy positioning with plenty of air movement and relatively quiet.  Though at 250, it's really not getting all that hot and even more silent options are available.  As long as you keep the hot air moving off of the heat sink, there's not that much difference between a gentle breeze and a hurricane.

Very nice then. I got 2 of those exact artic usb fan as a bonus for buying some hardware from a user here. I'm guessing its not exactly efficient to run one for one usb stick but hey whatever. Lottery ticket man!
3818  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer S5 - Underclock - Undervolt - Best J/GH on: September 04, 2015, 10:06:43 AM
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I agree that Bitmain seems to be making it more difficult to undervolt than they could.


 Side effect of their "keep it cheap" string design, doesn't seem to be deliberate.
 The old "pencil mod" was about changing an on-board regulator that doesn't exist on their current designs - and was STILL far inferior to Spondoolies methodology.


Seem pretty deliberate to me when the hardware design support voltage control but the option get locked in newer firmware, even though if you dig enough you can unlock it again.
3819  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [SIDEHACK STICK] Official sales thread for everywhere not already covered on: September 04, 2015, 07:47:27 AM
What kind of cooling would we need to keep a stick at 250mhz? xD
3820  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread aug 23rd to sept 5th. Picks are closed. on: September 04, 2015, 07:46:18 AM
So about 5% huh? I really hope we don't keep that pace, or do wish that the BTC price keep up.

Then again i should knock on wood, its not like its double digit stuff...

*Knock on wood*
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