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3821  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Options trading thread on: April 05, 2014, 12:27:49 AM
0.065 BTC and i am not paying for the escrow fees
3822  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Options trading thread on: April 05, 2014, 12:18:51 AM
If anyone is interested in trading OTC options, here's a central place for it.

I'll start by wanting to buy a standard american call on 1 BTC at 650 expires April 15

Anybody want to sell that call? You'll have to escrow the btc unless I trust you.

Settlement in BTC?

What price do you offer?

We can settle the premium in BTC certainly but I was thinking if it gets exercised then its an actual buy of BTC for USD.

I don't have a price although I can think about one. I'm open to offers.


Can't do the exercisement in USD, don't have any way to do that.

If you change your mind, you can drop me a pm with a price offer.

Take care

I'm open to your suggestions but I don't see how to escrow otherwise. As stated, if the seller puts 1 BTC in escrow there is no counterparty risk here.  

Why would the counterparty risk change with using an escrow and a settlement in BTC?

I put 1 BTC into escrow, and in the end you get 0.xx BTC depending on the price if it gets over 650$ . 0.xx being the  (Actualprice-650$)/Actual Price = BTC you get if you exercise.
3823  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Options trading thread on: April 04, 2014, 11:38:11 PM
If anyone is interested in trading OTC options, here's a central place for it.

I'll start by wanting to buy a standard american call on 1 BTC at 650 expires April 15

Anybody want to sell that call? You'll have to escrow the btc unless I trust you.

Settlement in BTC?

What price do you offer?

We can settle the premium in BTC certainly but I was thinking if it gets exercised then its an actual buy of BTC for USD.

I don't have a price although I can think about one. I'm open to offers.


Can't do the exercisement in USD, don't have any way to do that.

If you change your mind, you can drop me a pm with a price offer.

Take care
3824  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Options trading thread on: April 04, 2014, 11:34:50 PM
If anyone is interested in trading OTC options, here's a central place for it.

I'll start by wanting to buy a standard american call on 1 BTC at 650 expires April 15

Anybody want to sell that call? You'll have to escrow the btc unless I trust you.






Settlement in BTC?

What price do you offer?
3825  Economy / Services / Re: [0.5 BTC Bounty!] Design PrimeDice's new signature advertising ad! on: April 04, 2014, 11:16:49 PM
How did you make one large PRIMEDICE, and have two smaller lines to the right be the same height?  Huh

I bet this is not made within the specs of the signature, wont work..
3826  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++ on: April 04, 2014, 11:12:11 PM
[you are currently best in this game but my experience of investment is also worst with your because I lost too much in investment as I put some and your nakova withdraw huge payment from here

Anyone who was with the site when nakowa was winning and stayed with us until now will have made a nice profit. Some pulled out after nakowa's win and so won't have recovered the losses he inflicted.

Think of him as the crash from $32 to $2 in BTC price in 2011. Many sold after that crash, but those who hedl ended up with a profit.

Wow that sounds intense need to come and watch the gambling stories on this thread more often

haha, yeah it was just sick, here some screenshots of it:





3827  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: bitcoinity.org/markets - live bitcoin price charts on: April 04, 2014, 11:09:12 PM
Can we have Litecoin too? BTC-E for example...

This is already implemented. Just hover your mouse over the "markets" button and choose BTC-E LTC/USD

I must be blind man!  Huh

Please can you give me the link to it?

edit: I can see that on "bitcoinwisdom" but i want it on "bitcoinity", i like the interface there.

Oh boy, this is embarrising, i was thinking about bitcoinwisdom, mixed them up!

Sorry, yeah bitcoinity doesn't hat that yet.

I am totally for it!
3828  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best Alt coin to invest in 2014 on: April 04, 2014, 11:04:55 PM
So if I'm correct...blah blah

you're not.

NXT and NEM are the 2 I invested in.

Trying real hard to like nxt. I've gone through about 100pgs for the endless thread, set up a client, and put a few coins in there. Unfortunately I can't escape the feeling that it's just a premined scam coin with massively centralized distribution. Those guys are mining all the transaction fees and everyone joining in now gets diddly.

The distribution does not only have downsides Wink This way the network is extremely safe, because the big guys will always forge, and as long 50% or more NXTcoins are forging, the network is 100% safe. (this number will change to 10% needed to forge soon with the transparent forging algo).

If you hold BTC you also don't get any new coins? Quite the opposite, it has inflation @ 11% per year atm

Isn't nem still vapors?



yes
3829  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: April 04, 2014, 11:00:17 PM
Here's the poll results I spoke about concerning everyone's preference for GUI or Web clients:



A desktop client/wallet was hugely preferred. Admittedly a sample size of 16 people isn't statistically significant, but it's something to think about. There's a discussion about it in the thread on the forum.

Rofl, web client like NXT? You mean browser window client? Because our main client is no web client...
3830  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: April 04, 2014, 10:46:57 PM
It's good, just not out of this world great.  The UI is very App-ish, just thought an actual native app would be a cool experience ( Better handle network connectivity, intuitive screen fitting, faster loads, home screen widgets, notifications ).  Not needed but would be cool.

Yeah, but how would that even work? As an anonymous provider, dooglus will not be able to list it in any appstore. Doubt he will make this.
3831  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin price vs. hash rate? on: April 04, 2014, 10:44:25 PM
With this difficulty level bitcoin price should be at $900 range. Most miners are not making money in mining.

agreed, currently it's probably a better bet to buy coin than mining gear.

there was NO SINGLE point in time, where buying hardware was better than buying coins. Bet this will not change ever Wink
3832  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT VS NEM on: April 04, 2014, 10:42:03 PM
Promises very often look better than realization but I wish NEM the best, also Nxt. I am holder of both (if my Nem stake promise will be fulfilled).

Yes i have to agree. If NEM delivers all promises, then quite some time will have passed, and by that time, some killer features of NXT will be in existence. And at that moment, NEM will be one generation behind. I fear it will always be 1 generation behind.

I couldn't disagree more.  The fact that we are even having this conversation before NEM has launched anything tells me that if NEM launches something even close to comparable to NXT, it will pass NXT quickly.  You have to admit the community is quite huge for a coin that isn't close to launching yet.  

How would that be even possible? If this project launches in 3 months, then NXT will be nearly 9 months old and will have an established asset exchange and a digital goods store. The network effect alone would be enough to overcome your better distribution AT START. Because right now, we have much more than 3000 stakeholders.

Prove me wrong, but don't argue with me about how your vaporware will beat our already launched projects...

Just take a look at mastercoin, i fear this project will turn out like MSC but with less money stolen obviously.

UTOPIAN is the keyword here Wink
3833  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 04, 2014, 09:25:41 PM


nxt will be under heavy attack soon! be prepared!

brian was closer to the truth than you all think, but the truth is even worse, i need no 51% to attack nxt and make it die.

whales, time is up you got the chance to sell and did not, face it!

Nice, now you gonna BUY nxt?

3834  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 04, 2014, 08:45:48 PM
The point is that it's POSSIBLE. i

It's possible to arrest all Ripple employee, and shut them down.
It's also possible to buy all bitcoin riggs, and take over bitcoin completely.
It's also possible that we will be all dead anyway by next mutation of flue virus.
I am not losing sleep over any of these possibilities.

wtf. I put in $18000, now its worth maybe $ 9000. I'm a fool. So maybe some whale got my other $9000 or maybe not, who cares.
I'm risking something because I think I'm seeing an interesting way. What's about our decisions? Is there a right way?
The only thing we can do is experiencing life. After maybe 80 years life is gone, nothing left behind,
so everything will be gone, everything is changing. Go and make some experiences, because if you're dead
all the possibilities are gone

exactely. No one can predict the market, but it is possible to see if a coins technology and dev team is superior. If the coins price was up significantly, than most trolls would shut their mouths very fast.

It is the same with BTC, all the bears and trolls are singing praise songs and feel so fking great right now, but where are those people on the upswing?

it is a shame that these great innovations are reduced to such banal things as market capitalization, who gives a damn in the shortterm?
3835  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NAS][Launched] NasCoin | Descendant of NXT |Bounties|Faucet on: April 04, 2014, 05:48:50 PM
WTB NAS, Message me pls.

This offer is still active. I messaged with some guys. But come on, don't try to price it with 3 mio$ market cap. Roflcopter...
3836  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: April 04, 2014, 05:46:45 PM
That's assuming the rest are all dishonest and coordinating together. An impossibility.

If 50% of all stakeholders shut down their clients (bitching at them for whining about not getting rewards doesn't help, they don't read bitcointalk.org)

26% of 1B is 260MM


Please point me to an account that has 260M nxt. That's 7 million dollars (even at current low rate).  Why would I invest 7 million dollars in nxt and then do anything to the network that will destroy my own 7 million dollars investment.


If you have answer to that bold part, please share it.

If you try to buy 260M it will cost you FAR more than 7 millions. You can't find that volume unless you rise the price significantly to make big stakeholders to sell.
This would be finacial suicide. Never gonna happen. and the plus side to this is all ppl holding nxt would also become millionaires.

Yeah I didn't even bother mentioning that. Buy just 50 million out of BTER and the price would already be way over 20 cents. 
 

Someone slowly injecting 7MM into the Nxt market would not be that shocking. It's to be expected if it is successful.
Sure people would get rich as the price rose, just like with Bitcoin.  That's not the point at all. The point is that it's POSSIBLE. if it's possible then smart people will know this and will not invest.
It will never take off because there's too much risk that the networks growth will also be it's demise.


At .20 per Nxt it would still only amount to $52MM dollars. Leveraged buyouts cost way more than that.

Wanna know what would happen if someone dumps 50 mio USD in this coin and destroys it?

We will just make a quick and dirty fix, roll back the blockchain to a time before the mass buy and start over Wink That's a beauty isn't it?^^
3837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN PoS+ PoW] eXocoin [EXO] - gen 2.0 - developed from scratch! Free Give-Away on: April 04, 2014, 02:21:46 AM
active connections is still X,
and I can't create a new address
the CMD print
failed to read in wallet file or you do not have any address  so far

That is because the testnetwork is down. According to exo it will stay down for a week, then there will be a second beta.
3838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BLTZ] [IPO Hybrid] BlitzCoin | proof of concept coin | pure speculative on: April 04, 2014, 02:21:04 AM
Very low interest rate please.  Grin

POS means that there are no new coins found. It would probably be like NXT with only forging for transaction fees.
3839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: April 04, 2014, 02:19:34 AM
Have you thought about a mobile app?  Maybe for Android?  I think the Apple market place frowns on gambling apps.

Have you actually tried to use it on the mobile? it works quite well, i'd say no app is needed!
3840  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHA] Chancecoin protocol, client, and coin for decentralized dice betting on: April 04, 2014, 02:08:12 AM
Ok now it looks like something works. But it stopped at:

Chancecoin is not finished synchronizing. Chancecoin has finished processing 292091 out of 294065 Bitcoin blocks.

Doesn't do anything from there on out!

If you click on the "Casino" tab and then click back on the "Wallet" tab, the message should refresh and say "Chancecoin has finished processing 29XXXX out of 294065 Bitcoin blocks" where 29XXXX is bigger than before. In that case you just need to wait a bit till the Chancecoin is up to speed.

The out of XXXXXX Bitcoin blocks updates, but the "has finished processing XXXXXX doesnt change anymore, it did at the start though...
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