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This guy *really* just wanted to introduce himself. I mean, that's the only message he posted ! He really just wanted to do that.
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Eble. Studisto kiu studas por la diplomo kaj la mono, pli ofte studas temojn kiel ineniero, kemio kaj IT .ktp Tamen aliaj studas astronomion, matematikon kaj zoologio ne pro la mono. Tiuj laboroj ne havas grandan pagintaon. Ne eneraligu!
Anka mi kontraias sciencon por la komeroj. Scienco similas al arto. Sendube vojao al la luno estas pli bone la aferon kiun homaro faris.
La demando estas : cxu estas akceptinda, je uzi publikan forton prenante laboron de multaj homoj, nur por sendi kelkajn homojn al la lunon ? Tion mi ne akceptas. Quick translation for others : Basically the question is whether or not you would accept someone to tell you : " I am an officialy recognized scientist, and you're not. Give me 10% of your savings now because I earned the right not to cope with economic reality. If you don't agree I'll tell the police and they will take it by force. " Also : this is not just about scientists. A young person becomes a bureaucrat by learning by heart many silly and unfair rules. His only merit as a bureaucrat is to be able to memorize all this crap. |
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They can't force you to use a money if you don't want to.
Sure, they can try. And they have some success. But the very existence of alternative money such as bitcoin proves you that they are failing.
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"Mandatory" generation is silly since people who don't want to generate will just close it and like it less since it's annoying. Not to mention that anyone can write a client that doesn't do it automatically anyway.
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No, they're already driving in traffic.
Doesn't prove anything. It's still quite experimental. And I assume Google cars are driving very slowly. If it was already perfectly reliable we would see more of them. There is a huge demand for companies for such an application. They would save a lot on human drivers salary if they could just have robots drive their cars and trucks. |
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Adapt autonomous driving technologies. Google cars are already driving themselves, avoid obstacles, and such.
Then I guess it will be done soon. The car will park in front of your house, will send you a SMS with code for opening the car's door and let you retreive the package. Maybe Google is planning to do that. Could be a very lucrative business. I still think it's far from being ready for production, though. Automated driving is still a very tough AI application. It's a bit like voice to text application : it has existed for years now, but it's still not much convincing. |
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Small robots that can deliver small packages from one location to another on air and ground. They are tracked through an encrypted interface.
Operators operate robots remotely, share code and data for further improvement of courier AI and credited through bitcoin micropayment system.
Bigger payments incentivize courier operators to pick up object and deliever it to another location where other operators can pick it up.
Obviously, something need to be figured out to prevent operators engage in robotic combat for packages, not get into traffic accidents, not get package stolen, and so on.
This will happen, imo. Sooner or later. Protecting packages won't be an issue. If the technology exists to allow a robot to navigate through a complex urban field, then it will almost certainly have also some equipments to track/watch the package and prevent theft. Also, nobody has to know how valuable is the package, and therefore random theft won't be lucrative. Small flying drones already exist. What we would need now is enough AI to allow those drones to fly from a address to another, while avoiding obstacles and such. I think it will happen, but not in this century. |
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Interesting. This seems to be a weakness of the protocol.
So after bitcoin crosses let's say 500.000 transactions per minute barrier, generating coins will be only avaiable to rich bastards with 100mbit symmetrical connections ? This is actually not so good.
People should not focus that much on mining anyway. Mining is just a marginal way to get bitcoins. As it has been said many times here, it's the the same as for gold : yes gold mines exist, and they allow some people to make a lot of money just by digging ground. But the mined amount of gold in a year will always be ultra small compared to the overall existing amount of gold in circulation. Personnaly I don't care if some people generate a lot of bitcoins. I don't care at all. I actually consider that those people are working for me, since I will buy their generated bitcoins. |
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Mi ne povas imagi kazon kiu estas pli bonega ol tiu. Sciencistoj estas grava bezono por la estonta mundo. Sen scienco ni havus nenion.
Mi ne volas diri : "scienco ne estas bona". Tion mi ne pensas. Neniel. Scientistiuloj estas utilaj cxiam, kiam ili faras sciencon. Sed se junuloj studas sciencon ne por sciencemo, nek por scienstistigxi, sed nur por akiri rajton je sociala dominaxjo, jen tio estas ne enda. Se mi devus elekti inter scienco kaj libero, mi elektos liberon. Sendube. |
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u anka vi komprenas tiun lingvon? Ho, ni devos babili per IRCo.  Pacon. Nature mi gxin komprenas. Sed mi ne ofte uzas gxin  Estas la babilejo #esperanto cxe freenode. Mi tie babilas pli malpli otfte. Gxis  |
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Perhaps the client should generate khashes by default, using 25% of computer's cores (or 25% power of GFX cards) ?
This could strenghten the network a lot.
At least it should be said somewhere how important it is to mine, not just to get some bitcoins, but above all to contribute to network security. |
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Grondilu, I was looking for a "ballpark figure" of how likely it is that something will be adopted where it is clear to the adoptees that there are significant benefits to its adoption.
As it has been said on some other thread (I forgot which one), bitcoin doesn't really need to be mainstream to be successful. It can't be compared to esperanto for this matter, imo. As long as there exists a community that provides convertibility of bitcoins to other currency, it won't matter if you can't buy a hamburger with bitcoins. Think about gold : I dout I could go in a McDonald's with a gram of gold and buy a menu with it. And yet, gold is of course successful (especially nowadays). Of course, it will depend on the volume of transactions the community can provide. But such a volume won't have to be huge, imo. Actually I'd also like to compare it to collector's stamps. Those are really a niche : very few people collect stamps and are willing to pay a lot of money to acquire it. And yet, I heard that some jews during WWII were using them as storage of value (much easier to hide than gold or diamands). I'd say that bitcoins are even easier to hide than stamps PS. I don't say that I wouldn't like bitcoin to go mainstream, though. Of course I'd like that. But going mainstream is not a requirement for bitcoins to be considered as a success, imo. |
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What about buying it between a group of some bitcoiners and create the first bitcoin republic? A republic in a house ?? |
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But hang on, not everyone in the world is going to use bitcoin. Let's assume that it becomes as popular as other niche interests (say, Esperanto). There are perhaps a million esperanto speakers worldwide, about 1/7000th of the world's population. So if one million people use bitcoin for 1% of their economic activity, each bitcoin would eventually be worth $0.25.
I doubt Esperantist community is a good example of a potential niche use of bitcoins. I guess you mentionned it because you saw the esperanto link on the main bitcoin page, or because you know I am esperantist. But honnestly I very much doubt I represent esperantists in any correct way. However, I believe their are definitely some niches where bitcoin could florish : internet poker, porn, IT freelance business, etc. Maybe some very small countries could adopt it, also. I don't know. But anyway, my approach was explicitely "naive". There are indeed a lot of factors to take into accompt. So I don't think there is anyway to get a theoric price for gold in bitcoin. See precious metals compared to one another : although there is a very rouhly constant ratio, it does vary a lot in short time. I think it could be just the same for bitcoin. |
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Am I the only one that notices a pattern here ? A mega-crisis every 40 years perhaps ?
No, you are not the only one. You just stumbled onto Forth Turning social theory, but the full cycle is 80-88 years. It's a well researched, and little known, theory about generational cycles. Well worth a read, very enlightening. Kongratiev maybe ? |
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jorgen leads with 1,000 BTC.
Please let me remind you not to bid if don't really intend to buy the bar. The bitcoin paiement will be required first before the actual sending of the bar. Therefore there is no point anyway in putting fake bids. You will just destroy your reputation.
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Highest bidder takes it, I don't have any reserve price whatsoever other than making sure I don't loose money when mailing it and France is ok, as is any other country that the post office will ship to.
Ok, good. I confirm my intention to buy your ring for 100 BTC then. It would be nice if you could decide a deadline for the auction, though. |
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Honnestly I don't understand you guys. When I buy or sell something, I don't really care much about the spot price.
If I sell something, it's because I need money. I don't want to spend time and effort to make sure I get the best possible deal.
If I buy something, it's because I want to own it. I give whatever price the seller is asking, if I can afford it and if my desire to get the thing overcomes my reluctance of losing the required amount of money.
The spot price is only valid in a short period of time. If you don't intend to sell back or buy back during this time frame, the spot price doesn't matter much.
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Yeah, the way taxation usually goes is, "Give me money or I'll hurt you" "Okay, here you go"
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100 BTC if it's ok to send to France.
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